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		<title>By: barry</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/06/should-they-stay-or-should-they-go-669/#comment-6614</link>
		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that doesnt change the fact that the only way the yankees get anyone is by giving up Hughes or at the very least joba and another top prospect. its not that i disagree with you that something has to be done but the cold fact is that it will be hard for the yankees to do anything this year without giving up hughes. Good news isthe free agent market is floodedthis year i say rebuild the team bottom up. We should see if guidry wants to start pitching again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that doesnt change the fact that the only way the yankees get anyone is by giving up Hughes or at the very least joba and another top prospect. its not that i disagree with you that something has to be done but the cold fact is that it will be hard for the yankees to do anything this year without giving up hughes. Good news isthe free agent market is floodedthis year i say rebuild the team bottom up. We should see if guidry wants to start pitching again.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/06/should-they-stay-or-should-they-go-669/#comment-6571</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you trade Hughes for some expendable part that sucks? Newsflash: Jermaine Dye would not make the Yankees better. Neither would Mark Buehrle. It just isn&#039;t worth trading Hughes for a piece of junk.

Tell me a trade that justifies including Hughes. That&#039;s my challenge to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you trade Hughes for some expendable part that sucks? Newsflash: Jermaine Dye would not make the Yankees better. Neither would Mark Buehrle. It just isn&#8217;t worth trading Hughes for a piece of junk.</p>
<p>Tell me a trade that justifies including Hughes. That&#8217;s my challenge to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if not hughes than who do you expect to trade. NO ONE is going to want what we&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if not hughes than who do you expect to trade. NO ONE is going to want what we&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: mickey07</title>
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		<dc:creator>mickey07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not the Yankee way to blow up the team and look for trades.  I don&#039;t think that helps what is already bad karma on the team.  We are getting zero leadership from coaches and Joe.  Lets face it - this season is toast.  Bring up farm system kids and give them a real chance.  Some will stick, some will fade and it sends a real message to some of the hangers - on that their job is in jeopardy.  Maybe we will even see some enthusiasm.  I watched the SF games and no one was even talking to each other on the bench when we got behind. Putting some of the farm system pitchers in relief roles will help them get their heads together.  Its a lot different telling a 20 year old kid to get three guys, in a middle inning as opposed to having him start and figure out a whole lineup several times over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not the Yankee way to blow up the team and look for trades.  I don&#8217;t think that helps what is already bad karma on the team.  We are getting zero leadership from coaches and Joe.  Lets face it &#8211; this season is toast.  Bring up farm system kids and give them a real chance.  Some will stick, some will fade and it sends a real message to some of the hangers &#8211; on that their job is in jeopardy.  Maybe we will even see some enthusiasm.  I watched the SF games and no one was even talking to each other on the bench when we got behind. Putting some of the farm system pitchers in relief roles will help them get their heads together.  Its a lot different telling a 20 year old kid to get three guys, in a middle inning as opposed to having him start and figure out a whole lineup several times over.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph P.</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/06/should-they-stay-or-should-they-go-669/#comment-6418</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Myers has a 231 BAA. So what if he suddenly has been transformed into a â€œget out rightiesâ€™ specialist for some odd reason? His overall numbers are second best on the team, and he is a flexible workhorse.&quot;

The question about that, though, is if the trend will hold up. Myers&#039;s career numbers says it won&#039;t (and then again, his career numbers say his failure against lefties won&#039;t keep up, either).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Myers has a 231 BAA. So what if he suddenly has been transformed into a â€œget out rightiesâ€™ specialist for some odd reason? His overall numbers are second best on the team, and he is a flexible workhorse.&#8221;</p>
<p>The question about that, though, is if the trend will hold up. Myers&#8217;s career numbers says it won&#8217;t (and then again, his career numbers say his failure against lefties won&#8217;t keep up, either).</p>
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		<title>By: Would the real Mike Mussina please stand up? at River Ave. Blues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Would the real Mike Mussina please stand up? at River Ave. Blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, trading Matsui, a league average offensive LFer and a below average defender, is insane.

Make your case instead of just posting baseless insults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, trading Matsui, a league average offensive LFer and a below average defender, is insane.</p>
<p>Make your case instead of just posting baseless insults.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The only way weâ€™re going to get any type of bolstering of this lineup is by giving up hughes, at the least.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s simply wrong and misguided, Barry. No offense. Would you trade arguably the best pitcher prospect in the Majors for anything? No. No. No. No one is trading a 21-year-old pitcher with a VERY high ceiling. Not for Mark Teixeira, not for anything. I would trade Hughes for Albert Pujols or Johan Santana, and that&#039;s it. That, by the way, ain&#039;t happening.

The Yanks can get better without trading Hughes, and they will get better without trading Hughes.

As for Cairo, his VORP is -2.1. That means his actually &lt;em&gt;worse&lt;/em&gt; that the next best option as a backup infielder/starting first baseman. He&#039;s not doing his job; he&#039;s doing a terrible job.

I will argue Mussina to the death. He&#039;s not what anyone expects. In fact, Moose has shown me nothing this year. He&#039;s grown more cantankerous in his older age; he&#039;s shown less of a willingness to finesse his starts. He hasn&#039;t come to grips with the fact that he just isn&#039;t the same pitcher he was. The first half of last year was a fluke. Since June 26, 2006, Moose is 9-9 with a pedestrian 4.32 ERA and an average of 5.5 IP per start. That&#039;s what you&#039;re going to get from Mussina from here on in if you&#039;re lucky.

Posada will be a catcher on the wrong end of 35. History is not on his side. I think the Yanks should and will sign him, but like most of the members of this team, he&#039;ll be overpaid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The only way weâ€™re going to get any type of bolstering of this lineup is by giving up hughes, at the least.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s simply wrong and misguided, Barry. No offense. Would you trade arguably the best pitcher prospect in the Majors for anything? No. No. No. No one is trading a 21-year-old pitcher with a VERY high ceiling. Not for Mark Teixeira, not for anything. I would trade Hughes for Albert Pujols or Johan Santana, and that&#8217;s it. That, by the way, ain&#8217;t happening.</p>
<p>The Yanks can get better without trading Hughes, and they will get better without trading Hughes.</p>
<p>As for Cairo, his VORP is -2.1. That means his actually <em>worse</em> that the next best option as a backup infielder/starting first baseman. He&#8217;s not doing his job; he&#8217;s doing a terrible job.</p>
<p>I will argue Mussina to the death. He&#8217;s not what anyone expects. In fact, Moose has shown me nothing this year. He&#8217;s grown more cantankerous in his older age; he&#8217;s shown less of a willingness to finesse his starts. He hasn&#8217;t come to grips with the fact that he just isn&#8217;t the same pitcher he was. The first half of last year was a fluke. Since June 26, 2006, Moose is 9-9 with a pedestrian 4.32 ERA and an average of 5.5 IP per start. That&#8217;s what you&#8217;re going to get from Mussina from here on in if you&#8217;re lucky.</p>
<p>Posada will be a catcher on the wrong end of 35. History is not on his side. I think the Yanks should and will sign him, but like most of the members of this team, he&#8217;ll be overpaid.</p>
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		<title>By: barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re going a little crazy. A cairo does a fine job for what he is. B Moose, and all of the yankee starters, are made to look worse than they are by the yankee line-up, is he loosing something, yes, but Moose will finish the year still being Moose. and C i&#039;d pay Posada the sum of everyone one of the could go list&#039;s salaries just to continue doing what he&#039;s doing. bottom line we need to dump some guys at the end of they year, problem is no one is going to want what we have at this point. We might have to trade some big name prospects if we&#039;re even going to consider help like teixeira or anyone else. The only way we&#039;re going to get any type of bolstering of this lineup is by giving up hughes, at the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re going a little crazy. A cairo does a fine job for what he is. B Moose, and all of the yankee starters, are made to look worse than they are by the yankee line-up, is he loosing something, yes, but Moose will finish the year still being Moose. and C i&#8217;d pay Posada the sum of everyone one of the could go list&#8217;s salaries just to continue doing what he&#8217;s doing. bottom line we need to dump some guys at the end of they year, problem is no one is going to want what we have at this point. We might have to trade some big name prospects if we&#8217;re even going to consider help like teixeira or anyone else. The only way we&#8217;re going to get any type of bolstering of this lineup is by giving up hughes, at the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 03:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few dissents.

I  am one of the few Igawa fans around (hey, there really should be one or two, no?). I think the guy has real talent which we have seen on display for short periods of time. I think he can raise his game, getting more consistency. I think he can be what we all hoped he would be, a very good #4 or 5.

Myers has a 231 BAA. So what if he suddenly has been transformed into a &quot;get out righties&#039; specialist for some odd reason? His overall numbers are second best on the team, and he is a flexible workhorse. 

Move Matsui? Insane! (not directed at you Ben, obviusly).

And Cairo? I think he is an excellent utility guy. What kind of a bat do you expect from a bench player? His defense has been excellent - as good as Minky. And, while we are at it, his bat is no worse than Minky. What can you ask of a utility guy other than to take over for a starter and give you same level of performance? Plus play 3 other positions if needed. Keep Miggy!

Damon needs to get healthy before I get on the dump Johnny boat. If he can get and stay healthy, then keep him - even if only as a DH.

Not much argument with the rest though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few dissents.</p>
<p>I  am one of the few Igawa fans around (hey, there really should be one or two, no?). I think the guy has real talent which we have seen on display for short periods of time. I think he can raise his game, getting more consistency. I think he can be what we all hoped he would be, a very good #4 or 5.</p>
<p>Myers has a 231 BAA. So what if he suddenly has been transformed into a &#8220;get out righties&#8217; specialist for some odd reason? His overall numbers are second best on the team, and he is a flexible workhorse. </p>
<p>Move Matsui? Insane! (not directed at you Ben, obviusly).</p>
<p>And Cairo? I think he is an excellent utility guy. What kind of a bat do you expect from a bench player? His defense has been excellent &#8211; as good as Minky. And, while we are at it, his bat is no worse than Minky. What can you ask of a utility guy other than to take over for a starter and give you same level of performance? Plus play 3 other positions if needed. Keep Miggy!</p>
<p>Damon needs to get healthy before I get on the dump Johnny boat. If he can get and stay healthy, then keep him &#8211; even if only as a DH.</p>
<p>Not much argument with the rest though.</p>
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