Comments on: Joba dominates in relief http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:55:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: River Ave. Blues » Bullpen rumors abound http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/#comment-48139 River Ave. Blues » Bullpen rumors abound Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:10:06 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/30/joba-dominates-in-relief/#comment-48139 [...] completed right now, the Yankees are angling for a new-look bullpen. Combined with Joba’s relief dominance, we could see a whole new pen [...] [...] completed right now, the Yankees are angling for a new-look bullpen. Combined with Joba’s relief dominance, we could see a whole new pen [...]

]]> By: Frank http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/#comment-15516 Frank Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:17:26 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/30/joba-dominates-in-relief/#comment-15516 Yes, Dan, I see Clippard being better than Horne. He's younger, been healthier, and with better career numbers. Horne may have the higher ceiling, but Clippard's more likely to last longer. Yes, Dan, I see Clippard being better than Horne. He’s younger, been healthier, and with better career numbers. Horne may have the higher ceiling, but Clippard’s more likely to last longer.

]]> By: Bullpen rumors abound at River Ave. Blues http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/#comment-15504 Bullpen rumors abound at River Ave. Blues Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:45:11 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/30/joba-dominates-in-relief/#comment-15504 [...] Whimsy (3) « Joba dominates in relief [...] [...] Whimsy (3) « Joba dominates in relief [...]

]]> By: Ivan http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/#comment-15503 Ivan Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:42:34 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/30/joba-dominates-in-relief/#comment-15503 Plus, if I am the Yankees, I would trade Protor. He's overrated by many yankee fans especially guys use Torre to justify Protor performances at times. He just isn't that good. Never was a Protor fan. Trade him for Wilson Betemit, who is a young and versitle and put him on the bench to be a viable bat. Plus, if A-Rod leaves, you can plug him at third for the 08 season. Betemit has some upside, granted not a superstar, but a good regular who make an All Star appearance. Plus also, get rid of Farnsworthless. Plus, if I am the Yankees, I would trade Protor. He’s overrated by many yankee fans especially guys use Torre to justify Protor performances at times. He just isn’t that good. Never was a Protor fan. Trade him for Wilson Betemit, who is a young and versitle and put him on the bench to be a viable bat. Plus, if A-Rod leaves, you can plug him at third for the 08 season. Betemit has some upside, granted not a superstar, but a good regular who make an All Star appearance.

Plus also, get rid of Farnsworthless.

]]> By: Tom http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/#comment-15500 Tom Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:39:13 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/30/joba-dominates-in-relief/#comment-15500 Pettitte's stare: that's a really good point. If he's a Class A FA, then yeah I'd say to do the trade. If he's not, I'd probably have to think some more. Pettitte’s stare: that’s a really good point. If he’s a Class A FA, then yeah I’d say to do the trade. If he’s not, I’d probably have to think some more.

]]> By: dan http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/#comment-15499 dan Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:38:23 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/30/joba-dominates-in-relief/#comment-15499 They base it on 3-year performance, but his numbers this year alone could get him class A status. If someone can post a list of last years class A free agents, I think many people will be surprised at who's on the list. But about the rumor... does anyone really see marquez or clippard being better than alan horne? wang-hughes-joba-kennedy-horne... clippard and marquez cant pass any of those guys. Horne is the only one of the 4 that isnt a virtual lock, and he's THE top pitching prospect in the majority of organizations. The draft picks that gagne could get us, along with the value he brings as a rental, are worth giving up marquez and t-clip They base it on 3-year performance, but his numbers this year alone could get him class A status. If someone can post a list of last years class A free agents, I think many people will be surprised at who’s on the list.

But about the rumor… does anyone really see marquez or clippard being better than alan horne? wang-hughes-joba-kennedy-horne… clippard and marquez cant pass any of those guys. Horne is the only one of the 4 that isnt a virtual lock, and he’s THE top pitching prospect in the majority of organizations. The draft picks that gagne could get us, along with the value he brings as a rental, are worth giving up marquez and t-clip

]]> By: Pettitte's stare http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/#comment-15498 Pettitte's stare Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:31:55 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/30/joba-dominates-in-relief/#comment-15498 If Gagne did come to the yankees anyone know if he will be a class A free agent at the end of the year? That first round pick or suplimental first round pick adds a lot to Gagne's value. If Gagne did come to the yankees anyone know if he will be a class A free agent at the end of the year? That first round pick or suplimental first round pick adds a lot to Gagne’s value.

]]> By: Ben K. http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/#comment-15496 Ben K. Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:27:54 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/30/joba-dominates-in-relief/#comment-15496 C-NOTE, I responded in the other thread. C-NOTE, I responded in the other thread.

]]> By: Yanks26 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/#comment-15490 Yanks26 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:15:54 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/30/joba-dominates-in-relief/#comment-15490 Here's a recap from SWB: Joba Chamberlain just made his bullpen debut here in Rochester. He came in to pitch the seventh inning and struck out the side. He hit 99 on the stadium radar three times, and there were pitches that didn't properly register so he might have done it more than three times. (I'm pretty sure he never threw a fastball 37 mph in his life). Chamberlain threw 13 pitches, 10 of them for strikes. All three balls came to the first batter he faced. Gil Velazquez struck out looking at a slider, a pitch that was setup by a 99 mph fastball. Denard Span took two straight 99 mph strikes, then fouled off a pitch and finally struck out swinging at a breaking ball in the dirt. Looked like a curveball to me. Matt Tolbert struck out on three straight fastballs, the fastest of which hit 97. Here’s a recap from SWB:

Joba Chamberlain just made his bullpen debut here in Rochester.

He came in to pitch the seventh inning and struck out the side. He hit 99 on the stadium radar three times, and there were pitches that didn’t properly register so he might have done it more than three times. (I’m pretty sure he never threw a fastball 37 mph in his life).

Chamberlain threw 13 pitches, 10 of them for strikes. All three balls came to the first batter he faced.

Gil Velazquez struck out looking at a slider, a pitch that was setup by a 99 mph fastball.

Denard Span took two straight 99 mph strikes, then fouled off a pitch and finally struck out swinging at a breaking ball in the dirt. Looked like a curveball to me.

Matt Tolbert struck out on three straight fastballs, the fastest of which hit 97.

]]> By: Dude http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/joba-dominates-in-relief-844/#comment-15485 Dude Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:10:55 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/07/30/joba-dominates-in-relief/#comment-15485 TClip & Marquez and PTBNL for Gagne? i dont know. people here are saying the trio of Joba, Gagne and Mo will be unstoppable down the stretch. for that to even be the case, they have to get good starting pitching and consistent hitting, both questions (although getting hughes back will help). gagne will almost certainly become a FA again - he wants to close and his agent is, yep, Scott Boras, so this is a 2 month rental. now marq & clip might've never made it to the bronx with the Yanks stacked pitching depth, but clip IS extremely healthy, unlike gagne. but this is not the same gagne as 2003 - he doesn't have quite the stuff he had then. Now granted, i wanted Cash to sign gagne last offseason - now it comes back to bite them (of course, he supposedly only wanted to close, not set up, so no choice). but why not take a flyer on a proven closer? they did it with dotel, and had lieber for a full DL year just to get one year of him, i'm sure they could have convinced gagne to set up (and occassionally close) for not just the Yankees but the best closer ever. now they're giving up young starting pitching to acquire it. if it does happen, i'll be excited for 2 months, but i DONT think gagne is the difference between the playoffs and not. TClip & Marquez and PTBNL for Gagne? i dont know. people here are saying the trio of Joba, Gagne and Mo will be unstoppable down the stretch. for that to even be the case, they have to get good starting pitching and consistent hitting, both questions (although getting hughes back will help). gagne will almost certainly become a FA again – he wants to close and his agent is, yep, Scott Boras, so this is a 2 month rental. now marq & clip might’ve never made it to the bronx with the Yanks stacked pitching depth, but clip IS extremely healthy, unlike gagne. but this is not the same gagne as 2003 – he doesn’t have quite the stuff he had then. Now granted, i wanted Cash to sign gagne last offseason – now it comes back to bite them (of course, he supposedly only wanted to close, not set up, so no choice). but why not take a flyer on a proven closer? they did it with dotel, and had lieber for a full DL year just to get one year of him, i’m sure they could have convinced gagne to set up (and occassionally close) for not just the Yankees but the best closer ever. now they’re giving up young starting pitching to acquire it. if it does happen, i’ll be excited for 2 months, but i DONT think gagne is the difference between the playoffs and not.

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