Comments on: Maybe Scott Proctor wasn’t the problem… http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:49:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: River Ave. Blues » A trade of Damon makes perfect sense http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/#comment-47959 River Ave. Blues » A trade of Damon makes perfect sense Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:08:45 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/01/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem/#comment-47959 [...] Joe Torre, the Yankees manager who seems to have been the victim of a vote of no-confidence from the Front Office, tends to favor his Experienced Veterans, I fear that Melky, much to the [...] [...] Joe Torre, the Yankees manager who seems to have been the victim of a vote of no-confidence from the Front Office, tends to favor his Experienced Veterans, I fear that Melky, much to the [...]

]]> By: A trade of Damon makes perfect sense at River Ave. Blues http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/#comment-15976 A trade of Damon makes perfect sense at River Ave. Blues Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:02:24 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/01/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem/#comment-15976 [...] Joe Torre, the Yankees manager who seems to have been the victim of a vote of no-confidence from the Front Office, tends to favor his Experienced Veterans, I fear that Melky, much to the [...] [...] Joe Torre, the Yankees manager who seems to have been the victim of a vote of no-confidence from the Front Office, tends to favor his Experienced Veterans, I fear that Melky, much to the [...]

]]> By: MikeM http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/#comment-15924 MikeM Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:42:35 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/01/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem/#comment-15924 Another sign that the front office recognizes Torre's problems: http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/graziano/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1185942036132290.xml&coll=1 They're apparently telling the press that how Torre uses Joba will be a test for Torre... and also that they didn't make some deals because they knew Torre would waste the bench. Combined with the Kepner piece about why they got rid of Proctor, it certainly sounds like the front office is *well* aware of Torre's major weaknesses and are getting just as sick of them as the rest of us. Another sign that the front office recognizes Torre’s problems:

http://www.nj.com/columns/ledg.....038;coll=1

They’re apparently telling the press that how Torre uses Joba will be a test for Torre… and also that they didn’t make some deals because they knew Torre would waste the bench.

Combined with the Kepner piece about why they got rid of Proctor, it certainly sounds like the front office is *well* aware of Torre’s major weaknesses and are getting just as sick of them as the rest of us.

]]> By: John http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/#comment-15888 John Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:08:33 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/01/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem/#comment-15888 I agree with Stephen. If the front office honestly feels that Bruney, Britton, Proctor, and Farns are interchangeable then it makes sense to trade the one who has had the most wear and tear on his arm. That the guy who has been used the most is Joe's favorite/most trusted is a redundancy. I agree with Stephen. If the front office honestly feels that Bruney, Britton, Proctor, and Farns are interchangeable then it makes sense to trade the one who has had the most wear and tear on his arm.
That the guy who has been used the most is Joe’s favorite/most trusted is a redundancy.

]]> By: Stephen http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/#comment-15882 Stephen Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:27:50 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/01/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem/#comment-15882 I think people may be reading into this a bit too much. Proctor's right arm is probably going to fall of in the near future because of his workload. It was the right move to deal him now while the Yanks could still get something in return. I think people may be reading into this a bit too much. Proctor’s right arm is probably going to fall of in the near future because of his workload. It was the right move to deal him now while the Yanks could still get something in return.

]]> By: Brian http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/#comment-15863 Brian Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:48:39 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/01/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem/#comment-15863 Ben, I mentioned this a couple of days ago in passing on my blog. Basically, bringing Joba up wouldn't have served any purpose at all if he got the same treatment as Edwar, moving Proctor and/or Farnsworth forces Joe's hand. I don't know if he's a lame duck or not. I think someone just needs to talk to him about playing the young guys. It's ironic, because usually a manager would get flack from the front office for favoring young guys over expensive veterans, not vice versa. "We're paying Farnsworth $7M, you better use him!" Ben, I mentioned this a couple of days ago in passing on my blog. Basically, bringing Joba up wouldn’t have served any purpose at all if he got the same treatment as Edwar, moving Proctor and/or Farnsworth forces Joe’s hand.

I don’t know if he’s a lame duck or not. I think someone just needs to talk to him about playing the young guys. It’s ironic, because usually a manager would get flack from the front office for favoring young guys over expensive veterans, not vice versa. “We’re paying Farnsworth $7M, you better use him!”

]]> By: Kyle http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/#comment-15859 Kyle Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:14:12 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/01/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem/#comment-15859 I dont think Torre has much of a future with the Yanks I would say its probably 90% that he isnt coming back next year I dont think Torre has much of a future with the Yanks I would say its probably 90% that he isnt coming back next year

]]> By: Ben K. http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/#comment-15856 Ben K. Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:59:26 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/01/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem/#comment-15856 That's good question, Scout. The way Kepner puts it in The Times piece makes it sound as though the Yankees braintrust was well aware of Torre's problem and opted to take his favorite toy away from him on purpose. It does not at all bode well for Joe's future. That’s good question, Scout. The way Kepner puts it in The Times piece makes it sound as though the Yankees braintrust was well aware of Torre’s problem and opted to take his favorite toy away from him on purpose. It does not at all bode well for Joe’s future.

]]> By: The Scout http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/#comment-15855 The Scout Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:54:52 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/01/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem/#comment-15855 My question about the Times piece is whether the writer is giving us his own spin or whether it is from people in the organization, and which people. In theory, there is only one Yankee decision maker now -- Cashman. Are he and Torre really that far apart? Or is this the voice of the Tampa end of the organization? If it is the former, then Torre is surely done after this year if Cashman stays. Not necessarily so if the voices are part of Tampa crew. My question about the Times piece is whether the writer is giving us his own spin or whether it is from people in the organization, and which people. In theory, there is only one Yankee decision maker now — Cashman. Are he and Torre really that far apart? Or is this the voice of the Tampa end of the organization? If it is the former, then Torre is surely done after this year if Cashman stays. Not necessarily so if the voices are part of Tampa crew.

]]> By: Tom http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem-865/#comment-15852 Tom Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:47:12 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/01/maybe-scott-proctor-wasnt-the-problem/#comment-15852 Steve Lombardi is the biggest Torre hater on the planet. He's the most negative Yankee anit-fan in the entire world of blogs. He seems like a decent guy and a family man, but his constant negativity is sickening. Steve Lombardi is the biggest Torre hater on the planet. He’s the most negative Yankee anit-fan in the entire world of blogs.

He seems like a decent guy and a family man, but his constant negativity is sickening.

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