Comments on: The Price of Greatness http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/ A New York Yankees Blog Sun, 27 May 2012 00:50:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: steve (different one) http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/#comment-22003 steve (different one) Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:23:12 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/10/the-price-of-greatness/#comment-22003 good one. good one.

]]> By: News on the morning after an off-day | River Ave. Blues | A New York Yankees blog http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/#comment-22001 News on the morning after an off-day | River Ave. Blues | A New York Yankees blog Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:51:36 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/10/the-price-of-greatness/#comment-22001 [...] There’s an article in the Bergen Record recounting A-Rod’s growing relationship with Joe Torre. This is significant because of the off-season implications. Torre’s contract is up after this season, but what if A-Rod declares that he’ll stay only if the manager returns? That could be an even more perplexing question than the one Mike posed yesterday. [...] [...] There’s an article in the Bergen Record recounting A-Rod’s growing relationship with Joe Torre. This is significant because of the off-season implications. Torre’s contract is up after this season, but what if A-Rod declares that he’ll stay only if the manager returns? That could be an even more perplexing question than the one Mike posed yesterday. [...]

]]> By: Barry http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/#comment-22000 Barry Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:35:15 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/10/the-price-of-greatness/#comment-22000 i'll say it again, why don't you get off his cock. i’ll say it again, why don’t you get off his cock.

]]> By: steve (a different one) http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/#comment-21934 steve (a different one) Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:21:54 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/10/the-price-of-greatness/#comment-21934 wow, what an intelligent response. A-Rod stands to gain $150M from opting out. anyone who pretends that they wouldn't do the same thing is full of shit. oh, and you are an idiot. wow, what an intelligent response.

A-Rod stands to gain $150M from opting out.

anyone who pretends that they wouldn’t do the same thing is full of shit.

oh, and you are an idiot.

]]> By: Barry http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/#comment-21930 Barry Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:40:24 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/10/the-price-of-greatness/#comment-21930 why don't you get off arod's cock why don’t you get off arod’s cock

]]> By: JS http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/#comment-21919 JS Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:33:39 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/10/the-price-of-greatness/#comment-21919 "if A-Rod leaves, it will be because he is tired of fans like you who constantly hold him to a different set of standards than every other athlete in history." WOW...That's pretty cool that Arod reads River Avenue Blues... Hey Arod, hi from Birmingham, man! We love you! Say hi to Derek please. “if A-Rod leaves, it will be because he is tired of fans like you who constantly hold him to a different set of standards than every other athlete in history.”

WOW…That’s pretty cool that Arod reads River Avenue Blues…

Hey Arod, hi from Birmingham, man! We love you! Say hi to Derek please.

]]> By: steve (different one) http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/#comment-21917 steve (different one) Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:58:38 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/10/the-price-of-greatness/#comment-21917 "What more does he want? A 3-5 million dollar raise, what is he having trouble paying his mortgage or electric bill." this is such a dumb argument. he is worth whatever the market will bear. why should he take any less than what he is worth? b/c he is already wealthy? that's nonsense. would you take a job for much less than your market value? no. it's not that he WANTS more money. it's that he CAN GET IT. so why on earth should he leave it sitting on the table? he should leave the money that HE earns for the team sitting in the pockets of the billionaire owner? he should FORFEIT an extra $150M to not opt out to please a bunch of fans who have treated him like garbage for 3 1/2 seasons and have only finally "accepted" him this year b/c they realize how screwed they will be without him next year? Mariano is the highest paid reliever of all time. Posada is the third highest paid catcher of all time. Jeter is the highest paid SS of all time. let's stop pretending that these guys are martyrs. they simply had the good fortune to be signed as teenagers by the Yankees. if A-Rod was that lucky, he would have been a career Yankee as well. but no, he was drafted by a team that didn't want to pay him anything close to what he was worth when he hit free agency. i don't see why he should be criticized for that. if A-Rod leaves, it will be because he is tired of fans like you who constantly hold him to a different set of standards than every other athlete in history. “What more does he want? A 3-5 million dollar raise, what is he having trouble paying his mortgage or electric bill.”

this is such a dumb argument.

he is worth whatever the market will bear. why should he take any less than what he is worth? b/c he is already wealthy? that’s nonsense. would you take a job for much less than your market value? no.

it’s not that he WANTS more money. it’s that he CAN GET IT. so why on earth should he leave it sitting on the table? he should leave the money that HE earns for the team sitting in the pockets of the billionaire owner? he should FORFEIT an extra $150M to not opt out to please a bunch of fans who have treated him like garbage for 3 1/2 seasons and have only finally “accepted” him this year b/c they realize how screwed they will be without him next year?

Mariano is the highest paid reliever of all time. Posada is the third highest paid catcher of all time. Jeter is the highest paid SS of all time.

let’s stop pretending that these guys are martyrs. they simply had the good fortune to be signed as teenagers by the Yankees. if A-Rod was that lucky, he would have been a career Yankee as well. but no, he was drafted by a team that didn’t want to pay him anything close to what he was worth when he hit free agency. i don’t see why he should be criticized for that.

if A-Rod leaves, it will be because he is tired of fans like you who constantly hold him to a different set of standards than every other athlete in history.

]]> By: Barry http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/#comment-21912 Barry Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:41:18 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/10/the-price-of-greatness/#comment-21912 27,708,525(espn)= A-Rod's Salary. What more does he want? A 3-5 million dollar raise, what is he having trouble paying his mortgage or electric bill. If the guy is that selfish, let him go. And thankfully, Cashman, with one of his smarter moves, has said that if A-Rod wants anything more than an extension, he's gone. Look A-Rod's a baseball great and we all appreciate what he can do but lets be honest, his numbers are not going to be this good every year, he may not ever have another 50 or even 60+ home run season again. Why does this guy think he's worth more than close to 28 million dollars. We all complain about Roger Clemens being a mercenary, what about A-Rod. Personally, I think a player with team loyalty is more important than some ass that can't appreciate that hes making a Goddamn ridiculous amount of money and playing for the best team in sports history. This guy needs to step up and prove someone wrong, show that hes not just some punk who will play for anyone willing to pay the ransom. I think A-Rod should leave, I'll stick with Jorge and Mo, at least they know where their loyalties lie. 27,708,525(espn)= A-Rod’s Salary. What more does he want? A 3-5 million dollar raise, what is he having trouble paying his mortgage or electric bill. If the guy is that selfish, let him go. And thankfully, Cashman, with one of his smarter moves, has said that if A-Rod wants anything more than an extension, he’s gone. Look A-Rod’s a baseball great and we all appreciate what he can do but lets be honest, his numbers are not going to be this good every year, he may not ever have another 50 or even 60+ home run season again. Why does this guy think he’s worth more than close to 28 million dollars. We all complain about Roger Clemens being a mercenary, what about A-Rod. Personally, I think a player with team loyalty is more important than some ass that can’t appreciate that hes making a Goddamn ridiculous amount of money and playing for the best team in sports history. This guy needs to step up and prove someone wrong, show that hes not just some punk who will play for anyone willing to pay the ransom. I think A-Rod should leave, I’ll stick with Jorge and Mo, at least they know where their loyalties lie.

]]> By: JP http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/#comment-21908 JP Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:02:08 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/10/the-price-of-greatness/#comment-21908 Does any remember why Texas is subsidizing part of A-Rods contract as things stand today? It was only three years ago that Texas traded him because they couldn’t afford his salary and at the time, it sure looked like the Yankees were the only team that could. So now you have two teams sharing the cost of a 25M dollar man and now he wants another raise. Sure some team will pay him $30M next year, agents will always find teams that are willing to pay more, but I don’t think the end result will be much different that where Texas found themselves in 2004. I think A-Rod is one of the all time greats but I don’t think it’s worth the risk unless the Yankees plan to have a whole lot more help from the minors in the next year or two, and I’m not just talking about pitching. Does any remember why Texas is subsidizing part of A-Rods contract as things stand today? It was only three years ago that Texas traded him because they couldn’t afford his salary and at the time, it sure looked like the Yankees were the only team that could. So now you have two teams sharing the cost of a 25M dollar man and now he wants another raise. Sure some team will pay him $30M next year, agents will always find teams that are willing to pay more, but I don’t think the end result will be much different that where Texas found themselves in 2004. I think A-Rod is one of the all time greats but I don’t think it’s worth the risk unless the Yankees plan to have a whole lot more help from the minors in the next year or two, and I’m not just talking about pitching.

]]> By: Sean McNally http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/the-price-of-greatness-1110/#comment-21907 Sean McNally Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:52:10 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/2007/09/10/the-price-of-greatness/#comment-21907 Guys, guys guys... its not a zero sum game. When you are paying less than a million for 60% of your starting rotation, with Wang and Pettitte being only moderately expensive, along with the savings of Betemit, Cabrera and Cano all being pre-arbitration or otherwise cheap, you can spend big bucks on those three. Plus as has been pointed out the Texas money really softens the blow. Guys, guys guys… its not a zero sum game.

When you are paying less than a million for 60% of your starting rotation, with Wang and Pettitte being only moderately expensive, along with the savings of Betemit, Cabrera and Cano all being pre-arbitration or otherwise cheap, you can spend big bucks on those three.

Plus as has been pointed out the Texas money really softens the blow.

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