One pitch outs are always better that Ks unless they allow a runner to score
— better than stike outs – which take three piches or more
— saves wear and tear on the arm = more innings ove a lifetime and more effective innings —

Ground balls are nearly always not good if you have a slow/poor range defense

Ground balls are always bad if you pay on astroturf –see Wang’s small sample ERA at Totonto — andhave a slow/poor range infield (and don’t have brains enough to play deeper)

What makes a K pictcher effective — velocity, movement, location, deception

–What make Wang effective — velocity, movement, location, deception,

— Due to the location, break of his hard sinker right hand hitters can get to the top of the ball (as oposed to a swing and miss) — especially so in a 2 strike protect mode — but those protect swings don’t do much damage
— left handed hitters can poke it
— But only mistakes up in the zone and middle-in can be mashed — and 2 strike swings are often not in the mash mode

— as longe as iWand has power sinker , maintains location, and mantains a certain amount of deception he will be INORDINATELY effective — better than Tommy John

— On a staff as the Yankees will have with Joba, IPK (props), the Franchise, and maybe Pettit for a year they will provide the opposition a different look starter to starter — and thereby help reinforce each other

— Intangible — it may be mentally / emotionally hard to aspire to be “better than Clemens” and have to watch himin his decline. It is (I believe) much easier to try (teammate competition) to equal or better Wang
— if the Young Guns can walk that talk they can be something special both individually and as a unit
— and unlike the other MLB franchisess the Yankees can afford to keep them all if they prove out

—- Question– Santana could be available what package doy ou put togehter as GM to lock up that deal — no pussyfooting

—- Andy Philips — can anyone nicer have worse luck?? Light a candle for him.

People always forget about the good times when they are in bad, and lose all the memory of bad times in good. We like to forget Wang has only pitched one full season in the big. More than two months spent on the DL in his first year, began on the DL nursing his injuried groin this year, and not to mentioned he had a major surgery in the minor that set his progress back for a few years. But, he is 43 and 12 (and counting), being set up as the ace of the staff, and started an playoff game in his first major league year. If rot sets in with bruise, what about the other way around.

Unfortunately, Wang didn’t grow up with a silver spoon fed to him, nor he was blessed with an arm like Joba, Clemen, or ………. And, more unfortunately, he BOUGHT in this crap about being the ace in the toughtest crwod with the shortest fuse in America.

Fortunately, like a lot of sinker baller, he walks his path the old fashion way. Work the count, not allow many home runs, and get people out with a collective effort. Kind of like a lot of average Joe(s) watching the game. We ain’t gonna be named in the Fortune 500 or being televised as a role model in the spot light, but we just do our part in life even if we are just these tiny little screws in this big machine named society.

Wang is that way, too. He isn’t a dominating pitcher on the mount but I like to watch him pitch not because he blows hitters away but because he pitches as we live our life: not always perfect with sunshine on his ass but with twists and bumps, like in life, that keep your eyes grew to the television, to the team, and to this game call baseball.

So therefore, just leave him alone with this and that, people need time (and hard works) to develop into who they really are, ace or not.

I think Tiger woods (reminiscent back to 1997~1999) would agree on that note, too.