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		<title>By: River Ave. Blues » Enough with the negativity</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/10/bob-abreus-mangificant-revival-1271/#comment-48010</link>
		<dc:creator>River Ave. Blues » Enough with the negativity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all of you being so negative, enough. ENOUGH. We&#8217;re all fans of the Yankees; we&#8217;re all rooting for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ben K.</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/10/bob-abreus-mangificant-revival-1271/#comment-24833</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Why you people focus alot of your negativity on a guy who is still growing as a player is a bit disheartening.

Melk for some reason is the collective focus of most of your criticism - you also need to be more objective on your overestimation of Hughes. JMO&lt;/em&gt;

This is just wrong. You&#039;re doing Kyle Farnsworth and Brian Bruney a disservice. But seriously, this is a post about &lt;strong&gt;Bobby Abreu&lt;/strong&gt;. Who brought up Melky? You did. Second, you&#039;re the on directing all of your negative criticism at one player: Bobby Abreu. Why? I don&#039;t know.

We&#039;ve certainly expressed our fair share of delight with Melky Cabrera. We appreciate his youth and enthusiasm, his defense and timely hitting. But he isn&#039;t perfect, and the jury&#039;s still out on Melky.

Anyway, that&#039;s it. This topic is closed. There&#039;s nothing left to say here and we&#039;re certainly not having a rational discussion about it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Why you people focus alot of your negativity on a guy who is still growing as a player is a bit disheartening.</p>
<p>Melk for some reason is the collective focus of most of your criticism &#8211; you also need to be more objective on your overestimation of Hughes. JMO</em></p>
<p>This is just wrong. You&#8217;re doing Kyle Farnsworth and Brian Bruney a disservice. But seriously, this is a post about <strong>Bobby Abreu</strong>. Who brought up Melky? You did. Second, you&#8217;re the on directing all of your negative criticism at one player: Bobby Abreu. Why? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve certainly expressed our fair share of delight with Melky Cabrera. We appreciate his youth and enthusiasm, his defense and timely hitting. But he isn&#8217;t perfect, and the jury&#8217;s still out on Melky.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s it. This topic is closed. There&#8217;s nothing left to say here and we&#8217;re certainly not having a rational discussion about it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: brxbmrs</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/10/bob-abreus-mangificant-revival-1271/#comment-24825</link>
		<dc:creator>brxbmrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why don’t we have a number of 1.000 hitters?

That&#039;s a silly question - the answer is nothing in this world is perfect.

Focus, grace under pressure, talent, the ability to do things with the bat others can&#039;t - i.e. slap to rf like Jeter.

I know a couple of you guys are in your 20&#039;s, I&#039;d bet as you get older you will realize that there are &quot;clutch&quot; people in all walks of life - many reasons why, guts, brains, talent as well as luck - unfortunately not everything in life can be reduced to statsitical analysis.

I&#039;m glad you all are so quick to measure Melky&#039;s hitting rock bottom - and I hope he has and comes back up.  And again, I love how you totally discount Damon&#039;s inability to be an everyday CFer and Melk&#039;s 16 assists, preventing advancing runners, etc and also the hope that he improves with more expereience.

It just amuses me that you haven&#039;t mentioned Matsui&#039;s .185/.343/.346 this month and his rapidly deteriorating body.  Same for Giambi.

I&#039;m glad you also didn&#039;t &quot;measure&quot; Abreu not cutting off Jay Payton&#039;s triple - that happens this month and it could be the difference maker in our season.

Even if Melk &quot;only&quot; won one game in September with his bat, it was one more than Abreu did and he didn&#039;t throw a game away by not cutting off a ball that most likely Melk would have caught had he been in RF.

That&#039;s also something you aren&#039;t realizing, in a close game, every out you can make can be the difference maker - reducing the # of pitches the staff has to throw, recducing pressure and strain on the team - and again, you never see that in a box score.

A few years back, the Yanks staff was absolutely toast by Octber - a big reason why was the shoddy, limited range D that hung our pitchers out to dry from Game 1.

That&#039;s why the bottom line for me is I&#039;d rather have a 23 year old Melky making 430K and anchoring our D, than 13 mil Matsui, a soft 16 mil Abreu and a worthless 21 mil Giambi.

Alot of writers in many different papers and sites have credited Melky&#039;s play since June 1st as a significant reason why the Yanks turned it around.

Why you people focus alot of your negativity on a guy who is still growing as a player is a bit disheartening.

Melk for some reason is the collective focus of most of your criticism - you also need to be more objective on your overestimation of Hughes.  JMO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why don’t we have a number of 1.000 hitters?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a silly question &#8211; the answer is nothing in this world is perfect.</p>
<p>Focus, grace under pressure, talent, the ability to do things with the bat others can&#8217;t &#8211; i.e. slap to rf like Jeter.</p>
<p>I know a couple of you guys are in your 20&#8242;s, I&#8217;d bet as you get older you will realize that there are &#8220;clutch&#8221; people in all walks of life &#8211; many reasons why, guts, brains, talent as well as luck &#8211; unfortunately not everything in life can be reduced to statsitical analysis.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you all are so quick to measure Melky&#8217;s hitting rock bottom &#8211; and I hope he has and comes back up.  And again, I love how you totally discount Damon&#8217;s inability to be an everyday CFer and Melk&#8217;s 16 assists, preventing advancing runners, etc and also the hope that he improves with more expereience.</p>
<p>It just amuses me that you haven&#8217;t mentioned Matsui&#8217;s .185/.343/.346 this month and his rapidly deteriorating body.  Same for Giambi.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you also didn&#8217;t &#8220;measure&#8221; Abreu not cutting off Jay Payton&#8217;s triple &#8211; that happens this month and it could be the difference maker in our season.</p>
<p>Even if Melk &#8220;only&#8221; won one game in September with his bat, it was one more than Abreu did and he didn&#8217;t throw a game away by not cutting off a ball that most likely Melk would have caught had he been in RF.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s also something you aren&#8217;t realizing, in a close game, every out you can make can be the difference maker &#8211; reducing the # of pitches the staff has to throw, recducing pressure and strain on the team &#8211; and again, you never see that in a box score.</p>
<p>A few years back, the Yanks staff was absolutely toast by Octber &#8211; a big reason why was the shoddy, limited range D that hung our pitchers out to dry from Game 1.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the bottom line for me is I&#8217;d rather have a 23 year old Melky making 430K and anchoring our D, than 13 mil Matsui, a soft 16 mil Abreu and a worthless 21 mil Giambi.</p>
<p>Alot of writers in many different papers and sites have credited Melky&#8217;s play since June 1st as a significant reason why the Yanks turned it around.</p>
<p>Why you people focus alot of your negativity on a guy who is still growing as a player is a bit disheartening.</p>
<p>Melk for some reason is the collective focus of most of your criticism &#8211; you also need to be more objective on your overestimation of Hughes.  JMO</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph P.</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/10/bob-abreus-mangificant-revival-1271/#comment-24815</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many players have a plan. Many players impeccably focus on the task at hand. Then why don&#039;t we have a number of 1.000 hitters?

That&#039;s the starting point. I won&#039;t say that the ability to &quot;rise to the occasion&quot; doesn&#039;t exist, but luck plays such a role that it&#039;s completely immeasurable.

What I can measure is Melky hitting rock bottom, save for one game, since August 15.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many players have a plan. Many players impeccably focus on the task at hand. Then why don&#8217;t we have a number of 1.000 hitters?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the starting point. I won&#8217;t say that the ability to &#8220;rise to the occasion&#8221; doesn&#8217;t exist, but luck plays such a role that it&#8217;s completely immeasurable.</p>
<p>What I can measure is Melky hitting rock bottom, save for one game, since August 15.</p>
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		<title>By: brxbmrs</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/10/bob-abreus-mangificant-revival-1271/#comment-24814</link>
		<dc:creator>brxbmrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Site cut off my response above - suffice it to say I don&#039;t believe in the timely hitting as luck theory - Bill James isn&#039;t omnipotent and while luck is a component, focus and having a plan have more to do with timely hitting than luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Site cut off my response above &#8211; suffice it to say I don&#8217;t believe in the timely hitting as luck theory &#8211; Bill James isn&#8217;t omnipotent and while luck is a component, focus and having a plan have more to do with timely hitting than luck.</p>
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		<title>By: brxbmrs</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/10/bob-abreus-mangificant-revival-1271/#comment-24813</link>
		<dc:creator>brxbmrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;As for timely hitting, it’s a bunch of luck&lt;I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;As for timely hitting, it’s a bunch of luck<i></i></p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/10/bob-abreus-mangificant-revival-1271/#comment-24804</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brx, you think Hughes is over valued?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brx, you think Hughes is over valued?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph P.</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/10/bob-abreus-mangificant-revival-1271/#comment-24801</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about over-exaggeration.

And what&#039;s this nonsense with &quot;ability to evaluate a young player?&quot; You&#039;re using RBI to compare Melky and Abreu.

As for timely hitting, it&#039;s a bunch of luck. If you want the full explanation, e-mail me. Otherwise, it&#039;ll be a post this winter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about over-exaggeration.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s this nonsense with &#8220;ability to evaluate a young player?&#8221; You&#8217;re using RBI to compare Melky and Abreu.</p>
<p>As for timely hitting, it&#8217;s a bunch of luck. If you want the full explanation, e-mail me. Otherwise, it&#8217;ll be a post this winter.</p>
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		<title>By: brxbmrs</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/10/bob-abreus-mangificant-revival-1271/#comment-24800</link>
		<dc:creator>brxbmrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

BTW, if Melky hit 0/0/0 - in the lineup you &quot;glow&quot; about, his D would be worth carrying him in the 9 hole - that&#039;s what you refuse to see.

Also, unlike Abreu, Melk won a few big games with TIMELY hitting in a very bad offensive month for him.

Talk about NEGATIVITY - that&#039;s what you guys have against a good 23 year old CF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>BTW, if Melky hit 0/0/0 &#8211; in the lineup you &#8220;glow&#8221; about, his D would be worth carrying him in the 9 hole &#8211; that&#8217;s what you refuse to see.</p>
<p>Also, unlike Abreu, Melk won a few big games with TIMELY hitting in a very bad offensive month for him.</p>
<p>Talk about NEGATIVITY &#8211; that&#8217;s what you guys have against a good 23 year old CF.</p>
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		<title>By: Enough with the negativity &#124; River Ave. Blues &#124; A New York Yankees blog</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2007/10/bob-abreus-mangificant-revival-1271/#comment-24799</link>
		<dc:creator>Enough with the negativity &#124; River Ave. Blues &#124; A New York Yankees blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all of you being so negative, enough. ENOUGH. We&#8217;re all fans of the Yankees; we&#8217;re all rooting for [...]</description>
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