Nov
12

Hip, hip, new contract?

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In news that will be surprising to only Will Carroll and Will Leitch, Jorge Posada is really close to signing a new deal with the Yankees. I know the Yanks offered him three years originally, but I fear that this deal will be for four. Hopefully, Jorge is up for learning how to man first base.

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  • Stephen

    I may be in the minority here, but I really don’t have that huge a problem with giving Jorge four years. I understand that he won’t be much use behind the plate when the deal is done but I say you’ve got to bite the bullet in a few years in order to hang on to him now. This lineup really can’t afford to lose his production right now. Maybe I’d feel differently if there weren’t so many other holes that need to be filled right now or if there were some more legitimate replacements at catcher on the market, but there’s no way the Yanks can go from Posada to Jose Molina right now.

  • brxbmrs

    Stephen,

    I’m with you – anything around or under 4 years 60 mil is a good deal – with more judicious use (i.e. not making him catch 135+ games a year) Jorge could be productive for 4 years as a C, DH and 1st baseman.

    Unless the Yanks want to rebuild, giving Jorge a 4 year deal is a good move.

  • Keith

    i could care less about the money, because it’s not mine to spend or not spend.

    what should be taken into consideration is the productivity level he’ll have in years 3 and 4, and where that production will take place.

    if he falls back to his career numbers, and even a little below, he’s still a very solid offensive option at the position, comparitively speaking. but, what type of defense are we going to get from that position? he was not as good in 2007 and he was in 2006, and as he gets older, you have to believe it’s only going to go downhill from here.

    then, if you throw him into a DH or 1B role, his career numbers dont necessarily equate to the production levels you hope you can achieve from that type of offensive position. an again, as he gets older, it’s not unreasonable to believe he’ll fall below his career numbers going forward.

    i guess what i’m saying is that i do think it was important to bring him back, but i wonder what type of contract/production level this team is going to be stuck with in year 3, 4, or even 5 of this deal.

  • Matt

    Excuse my ignorance here. Can someone list who the top catching prospects are in the organization? (or direct me to a link if this has already occurred). Are any of these close to being ready for the majors and do you see them having Jorge put said prospect under his care…much like Girardi did with Jorge in the 90s?

    thanks

    • Keith

      you can visit the SWB blog. They just did a nice job of going position by position through the prospects in the organization. link is among the list on the right.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

        Click here for Chad Jennings’ organizational catcher rankings.

  • http://jeteupthemiddle.blogspot.com Jeteupthemiddle

    Yeah, I don’t have any problems with Posada getting a 4th year. I would obviously prefer the 4th year to be a straight team option or one that automatically vests based on games played at catcher in year three, but that is likely not going to happen.

    Honestly, with Giambi coming off the books in 2008, and with Matsui and Damon coming off the books after 2009, the DH spot is open for Posada in year four and probably year three of the deal.

    I’m ok with it.

    If there were any other options–at all–for a starting position, then I would be all for it, but there is just nothing out there.

  • barry

    Jorges the man. Good for him.

  • http://yankeesetc.blogspot.com/ Travis G.

    Montero’s killing the ball in Venezuela. he cant get here fast enough.

    • http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=56352514 Jamal G

      Montero is not even 18 yet. If he even makes it here in lighting time at the ae of 20 thats still 2 full years ahead. Jesus Montero should not be a factor in yur opinion of JoPo’s contract.

      • http://yankeesetc.blogspot.com/ Travis G.

        i know how old he is. i’m basically saying it’s too bad montero is at least 2 years away. we have no catching depth, so we probably HAVE to sign posada.

  • steve

    if jorge regresses a lot by the fourth year maybe he’s hitting like a league average catcher by then. or maybe he DH’s and is still productive. if its what it takes to get him for next year then give him the 4th year and forget about it. thats my opinion anyway. whats the alternative??

  • redbug

    Jorge’s got the Yanks over a barrel and he knows it. There are no alternatives. They should’ve signed him and Mo in ST. I don’t blame either one of them for holding the Yanks up.

    • http://jeteupthemiddle.blogspot.com Jeteupthemiddle

      Perhaps they should have, but I also can’t blame the Yankees for not extending them in spring training consider 1. Rivera’s arm trouble to end the 2006 season and age and 2. Posada’s age and position.

      It is perfectly reasonable, to me, that the Yankees would want to make sure both are healthy and capable of performing before giving them a long term deal.

      I think it is the same logic that has thus far prevented them from giving Wang and Cano long term deals that take up some of their free agent years. Theoretically the Yankees should do this to ensure they get a good value on their contracts before they are arbitration eligible; however, when you look at their statistics and peripherals (Wang’s lack of strikeouts/road numbers and Cano’s lack of walks), it is quite reasonable for the Yankees to want an additional data point for both players before being locked in with them.

      Of the two, I would sign Cano to a long term deal first (especially considering the glut of young pitchers coming through the system).

      /end mini hijack