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By: Beau

Beau — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:40:32 +0000

We have to remember who we’re talking about. This is a two time Cy Young award winner who hasn’t even turned 29 yet. I also have great admiration for the talent of Phil Hughes but the ‘potential’ Santana deal doesn’t just bring an ace to your staff, it brings the best pitcher in all of baseball. As far as Santana’s power goes- He can get the ball in the mid 90′s and sometimes more. He’s proven himself for long enough that he is for real. If Santana goes to Boston (or anywhere in the american league for that matter) it can seriously hurt the Yankees chance for a playoff birth this year. I agree we need to build our young talent from within but this isn’t the Yankees going after their usual 40 year old diminishing stars.

By: Casper

Casper — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:35:53 +0000

the other posts about the hughes/melky/marquez/hilligoss package didn’t show up in my browser before i posted the above, my bad.

By: Casper

Casper — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:33:41 +0000

bill madden says the yanks could have had santana for hughes, melky, marquez and hilligoss. sure a lot of yankees fans will think the yanks should have made that deal. whether they should have or not, you have to love the implication of all this… brian cashman seems to have much more control than has been speculated recently.

save the big three.

By: MS

MS — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:14:54 +0000

mlbtraderumors reports that the Yanks turned down Hughes, Melky, Marquez, and Hilligoss. I guess all the save big three supporters owe Cash a big thanks. As far as we knew the past few days, the Yanks would have made this deal. I think Pettitte helped a bit as well.

By: Glen L

Glen L — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:03:15 +0000

I’ve got to be honest, on paper they 100% should have made that deal if they could. The odds of Hughes becoming as good as Santana are not very high, and yankees fans overvalue melky .. far more than any other club does. i LOVE LOVE LOVE Hughes .. but that deal seems very reasonable.

I don’t know as always I’m torn

By: Pettitte's stare

Pettitte's stare — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:00:01 +0000

Anyone else see the rumor by the New York Daily News that the yankees turned down a deal for Santana that was Hughes, Melky, Marquez, and Hilligoss. I’ve got two thoughts on this, first, it really does look like cashman is in charge and really against aquiring Santana and two, it is nice to see other teams looking at guys like Marquez and Hilligoss. Those are two names I don’t hear enough about. Sorry if someone else posted this under a previous piece.

By: Clemson Rob

Clemson Rob — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:58:53 +0000

I think keeping our prospects not only helps the team now and in the future but is also our way of “sticking it to the man”. Constantly, as Yankee fans, we hear about buying our way through everything, spending lavishly on players other teams can’t afford or are too cheap to pay (see Marlins, Twins, A’s, Braves, etc.), although I call our spending “capitalism” cause face it, you have to spend money to make money and Big Stein and family know this is a business. I say we do whatever we need to keep the Big 3 and stay put, keep the excitement we’ve had as fans following our young players this past year, and maybe playing some games to keep the Red Sux out of the Santana deal. As ESPN is flashing Santana’s stats, I still find it hard to believe that a lefty pitcher whose main pitch is a changeup can succeed in Yankee stadium. Santana is NOT a power pitcher and as good as he has been, I can’t see him doing well with us. Call me crazy, but I’d rather have a power lefty pitcher who pitches inside (ala David Wells) instead of having Johan.

By: Patrick

Patrick — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:11:11 +0000

I know that the phrase “rebuilding” is forbidden in the New York media, especially if it is used in connection with the Yanks. However, I think fans need to remember back to the late 80’s and early 90’s when there was a decade of rebuilding. There was also a decade of shipping off young talent, draft picks that didn’t pan out and huge deals that paid very little dividends. Once 1995 came, the young talent that wasn’t shipped off had a chance to develop and homegrown prospects came to the big leagues, paying off incredible dividends. At the end of the Yanks run in 2000 (well, even 2001), we started getting the big names and trading away prospects. While the prospects may not have turned out to be the next Jeter or Posada, it felt like we were bringing in one mercenary after the next and the thought of developing young talent was no longer an option. Then, a funny thing happened. In the whole Tony “Don’t’ call me Bobby” Womack fiasco, we found Robby Cano. We also found Melky the second time around (and we like to forget the few days that constitute his first time around). Now, we’re on the verge of relying on these young guns to take us to the promise land. What’s so bad about that? I’m not calling it rebuilding. Instead, maybe it is a correction of the mindset that we’ve had for a little too long. I know we signed A-Rod to a mega-deal, but why not give these guys a shot and hold off on Santana? Everyone talks about how teams like the Marlins and A’s develop these young guys and then ship them off to the Yankess or whoever winds up being the highest bidder or they never have the means to get those final pieces of the puzzle. Well, what if we developed these young guns into the next Haren, the next Santana or the next Clemens. The good thing is that, if we do that, the Yankees usually have the means to add that extra piece. If it doesn’t work out, I’m sure we’ll revert to the old ways of buying whoever we can. But as a Yankee fan, we’ve seen what this offense can do and we’ve also seen what these young guys can do. I echo the sentiments of RAB and say, “Keep the Big Three!” (I also bought a t-shirt)

By: tony from the bronx

tony from the bronx — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:09:39 +0000

Bill Madden from The News is an A Hole! I just finished his column,in which he rips Cashman for pulling out of the Santanna deal.The man,last May,siad the Yanks had nobody in there system to help the 2007 team.When the kids came up and did good he never admitted to being an idiot.Now ha say Cash better be right about Hughes.Is the man blind?Does he know anything about baseball?The Santanna trade is not a no brainer.It has manny risks.Also,Bstn will not get Sanntana.Even if the Twins pull the trigger Bstn will not agree to a extension.Watch and see.The Angels also will not get Santanna.Moreno agian will not pay the money.The Twins are stuck.If they come back to the Yanks will we pull Hughes? I would.