Hank: ‘We’re done here’


Hank Steinbrenner confirmed that, publically at least, the Yankees are no longer talking about Johan Santana with the Twins. It remains to be seen if the Red Sox will actually complete this deal. As PeteAbe writes, the Red Sox did back out of the A-Rod deal in 2003 when they couldn’t complete contract negotiations. Santana will want an equally complex and historic (for a pitcher) deal.

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  • LBA Prequel

    Believe me, if the Red Sox are willing to pay $51,000,000 to what amounted to a phone call to Japan, they’ll get Santana locked up.

    And so dawns the new Evil Empire…

    • rbizzler

      Correction dude, they paid 100+ million to sign him. That is the proper way of looking at it. They didn’t pay shit to talk to him as the posting fee is contingent on the player signing a contract. The Sox could have chatted him up and sent him back to Japan without a deal and it wouldn’t have cost them a dime.

      The willingness to lay out the 100+ million for a somewhat unknown quantity might signal a likelihood that they would be willing to give Santana the type of extension he is looking for (and possibly rework Beckett if he bitches).

  • JMM

    If they agree, the negotiation process will be interesting. As you said Ben, the Red Sox were unable to come to terms with A-Rod back in 2003 and I’m not so sure they’re willing to fork over $150 million dollars over the next six years.

    I have a feeling they’re not so thrilled to be the only one left in all of this.

    • Brian

      I just got off the phone with my brother-in-law from Boston, Tito-lovin’ wonk as he is, and he just said that he is really indifferent about the Santana deal, just hoping they don’t take Ellsbury. That sounds awfully familiar to our thinking on the matter. He even talked about it being no fun given we backed out (as opposed to Boston successfully outbidding us)…I like that.

      • JMM

        Interesting stuff Brian. I haven’t really heard a ton of excitement out of Red Sox fans over this. I tend to tune them out anyway, but it seems as though they’re a bit indifferent.

        I think the majority of Red Sox fans just expected the Yankees to land Santana in the end.

  • Brian

    Now let’s see how the Sox do if they are expected to win it every year. The beauty of this is that we get to watch these guys develop AND the massive expectations have been greatly reduced without it being unthinkable we can win it all. Part of the talk entering spring training will be how much better the tigers, the red sox, the angels are, and how we barely staved off being terrible (a-rod staying), but I can think of no more enjoyable time to win than this.

    • dan

      This sounds so evil. I love it.

    • Count Zero

      I agree. I’m looking forward to being the underdog in the AL next year, with a bunch of young kids coming down the pipe. Not to mention the nationwide vilification of Red Sox Nation that’s to come.

      I always said 1996 was the sweetest of them all. :-)

      • Travis G.

        it began after 04 actually and ramped up a lot after DiceK and the current WS.

  • Ron

    Okay, so maybe we can get a little help from St. Joe here? We all know how Torre disdains playing “unproven” players, so maybe he goes to Colletti and says “Ned, I won’t be playing those youngsters anyway, so how about sending them off to Minny and getting me Santana.”

  • Jamal G

    “As for Cashman, we met with him for 10 minutes or so and he ducked every question like Kevin Youkilis facing Joba Chamberlain.”

    Lol Abe, your the best.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    While I would have liked getting Santana, I really wanted to keep Hughes. I also like the fact that the Yankees are not going to offer the moon, the sun and the sky for a big name.

    The Twins said Hughes MUST be a centerpiece of any trade and we reluctantly let him go. Then they wanted Ian Kennedy and we said no. Then they wanted Jackson or Horne and we said no.

    Why? Did this deal fall through b/c we would not deal Jackson or Horne? Some people might see it that way.

    I see it as we had Hughes pried from our grasp and that wasn’t enough. They wanted more and also wanted to pit us against the Red Sox driving the price up and up.

    To me it’s more than just not giving up Jackson or Horne. It’s that they didn’t see a good deal when they had one and we were being played and we said enough.

    For me, I’m happy with the decision.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    My thoughts EXACTLY.

  • randomize

    Sigh. I hope that Cashman didn’t really walk away from Hughes/Melky/Horne/Marquez.

    If he did… that’s grounds for firing.

    Cano for Lincecum. Please.

    • dan

      He presented that offer, the Twins walked away from it.

      • dan

        Nevermind, I didn’t see Horne. I’ve never seen that deal presented.

  • Paul

    No one is talking about Lincecum…I would think strongly about doing that trade. Last year, Lincecum was supposed to be the next Liriano. But Cano might be too much to give. Interesting, though

    • randomize

      Actually, people are talking about Lincecum.

      The Giants realize that one of the two (Cain/Lincecum) has to go and they prefer to keep Cain.

      They’re in talks with the Blue Jays and the thinking is that Rios fetches Lincecum.

      You’re telling me Cano can’t fetch Lincecum. It’d be a great trade for the Yankees.

      • Clayton

        Could you link to this talk?

  • Jamal G

    Im tired of these God Damn Cano talks. Whats with all that BS?

  • Mike R.
    • dan

      Nothing really groundbreaking there. I doubt he’s ever going to say “Aw, shucks, I really wish they had traded me to Minnesota. There’s always next year.”

      • Mike R.

        He didn’t really have to reply, or he could have replied with a “I understand that baseball is a business and I will do my best for any team I am on” routine.

    • mehmattski

      Proper response: Your mom’s a commodity.

      • Mike R.

        Not exactly sure what you mean by that, but I think it’s better that way.

        • mehmattski

          You linked directly to your own comment at LoHud.. it said “Sometimes we forget that these are people and not commodities.” Thought I’d bring some comedy relief. It’s not the first time my humor has gone unappreciated (cue Family Guy-style flashback…)

    • LiveFromNewYork

      Glad Phil answered Pete. I am really glad he’s staying. I bet the place goes crazy upon his first start (hell…him, Andy, Joba…we’re all looking forward to it)

  • LiveFromNewYork

    poor you. we will try to stay on top of things.

  • zack

    Don’t count on Phil sticking around just yet. Still a lot of offseason left…

    I would be really surprised if the Angels didn’t go after Santana hardcore now. They would have to be one of the big losers of the offseason if they don’t, no? Torii Hunter isn’t a difference maker, and having lost out on Cabrera, they have the prospects to get it done, their stars aren’t getting younger, and they need some pitching.

  • barry

    Anyone else plesantly relieved that Santana wont, at least at the moment, be a Yankee. Save the Big Three!