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	<title>Comments on: Media finally realizes that Pettitte, Clemens weren&#8217;t friends</title>
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		<title>By: Rich D</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/01/media-finally-realizes-that-pettitte-clemens-werent-friends-2019/#comment-46767</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully you are not just realizing that baseball writers are generally lazy, ignorant buffons who usually just mail-in meaningless stories, go off on ridiculous tirades or are trying to become this generation&#039;s Woodward and Bernstein.  Its not a mystery that newspapers sales are plummeting.  When presented with an alternative for the basics, who won, who lost and why, people are choicing the net.  The quality of writing doesn&#039;t support buying a newspaper.  The scary thing is that these people are in charge of the Hall of Fame balloting.  Read the Philly papers on a regular basis and you will quickly see my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully you are not just realizing that baseball writers are generally lazy, ignorant buffons who usually just mail-in meaningless stories, go off on ridiculous tirades or are trying to become this generation&#8217;s Woodward and Bernstein.  Its not a mystery that newspapers sales are plummeting.  When presented with an alternative for the basics, who won, who lost and why, people are choicing the net.  The quality of writing doesn&#8217;t support buying a newspaper.  The scary thing is that these people are in charge of the Hall of Fame balloting.  Read the Philly papers on a regular basis and you will quickly see my point.</p>
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		<title>By: beantownbosoxh8er</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/01/media-finally-realizes-that-pettitte-clemens-werent-friends-2019/#comment-46699</link>
		<dc:creator>beantownbosoxh8er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks man!
I stopped going to pinstripe alley because of the name calling and the general B.S..
I do understand that you were using the politics to make your point, I just hate to go from sports to that.
Getting off topic is going to happen but that(politics) is a place that can get ugly along with religon.
I will continue to visit this site ,i have it as one of my homepages . And yes screw these bastrds here in boston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks man!<br />
I stopped going to pinstripe alley because of the name calling and the general B.S..<br />
I do understand that you were using the politics to make your point, I just hate to go from sports to that.<br />
Getting off topic is going to happen but that(politics) is a place that can get ugly along with religon.<br />
I will continue to visit this site ,i have it as one of my homepages . And yes screw these bastrds here in boston.</p>
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		<title>By: brockdc</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/01/media-finally-realizes-that-pettitte-clemens-werent-friends-2019/#comment-46698</link>
		<dc:creator>brockdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Bitters,

I agree with your comment about selling papers, insofar as media outlets are in the business to make profit, not to inform the public in an unbiased, non-partisan way (that is, if such a thing exists). 

The question I pose is this: is it possible to reconcile the profit motive of media giants like Viacom, Fox and Tribune with the information needs of ordinary citizens (especially considering how skittish the public generally is about heightened regulation)? 

Go Yankees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Bitters,</p>
<p>I agree with your comment about selling papers, insofar as media outlets are in the business to make profit, not to inform the public in an unbiased, non-partisan way (that is, if such a thing exists). </p>
<p>The question I pose is this: is it possible to reconcile the profit motive of media giants like Viacom, Fox and Tribune with the information needs of ordinary citizens (especially considering how skittish the public generally is about heightened regulation)? </p>
<p>Go Yankees.</p>
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		<title>By: beantownbosoxh8er</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/01/media-finally-realizes-that-pettitte-clemens-werent-friends-2019/#comment-46696</link>
		<dc:creator>beantownbosoxh8er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks man! 
 I stopped going to pinstripe alley because of the name calling and the general B.S..
 I do understand that you were using the politics to make your point, I just hate to go from sports to that.
 Getting off topic is going to happen but that(politics) is a place that can get ugly along with religon. 
I will continue to visit this site ,i have it as one of my homepages . And yes screw these bastrds here in boston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks man!<br />
 I stopped going to pinstripe alley because of the name calling and the general B.S..<br />
 I do understand that you were using the politics to make your point, I just hate to go from sports to that.<br />
 Getting off topic is going to happen but that(politics) is a place that can get ugly along with religon.<br />
I will continue to visit this site ,i have it as one of my homepages . And yes screw these bastrds here in boston.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben K.</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/01/media-finally-realizes-that-pettitte-clemens-werent-friends-2019/#comment-46651</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far, we&#039;ve had a very civil conversation about political coverage and sports coverage as the media sells it. I&#039;m sorry you disagree, but considering what political discourse on other sites ends up looking like, I&#039;d say these few comments are a step in the right direction. Another, most people are commenting on &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; the results are covered and not what they are. I wrote the note at the end of the post because we don&#039;t want to see people arguing about candidates or parties in the comments, and no one&#039;s doing that. I&#039;m sorry if you don&#039;t like that. 

I&#039;m sorry for calling you a troll. That wasn&#039;t fair of me, and I do not mean to drive you from the site. My apologies. I think you&#039;re picking up on something rather minor, but that&#039;s your right. I have nothing else to say about it other than keep on rooting for the Yanks up there in the enemy territory. We need more of those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, we&#8217;ve had a very civil conversation about political coverage and sports coverage as the media sells it. I&#8217;m sorry you disagree, but considering what political discourse on other sites ends up looking like, I&#8217;d say these few comments are a step in the right direction. Another, most people are commenting on <em>how</em> the results are covered and not what they are. I wrote the note at the end of the post because we don&#8217;t want to see people arguing about candidates or parties in the comments, and no one&#8217;s doing that. I&#8217;m sorry if you don&#8217;t like that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry for calling you a troll. That wasn&#8217;t fair of me, and I do not mean to drive you from the site. My apologies. I think you&#8217;re picking up on something rather minor, but that&#8217;s your right. I have nothing else to say about it other than keep on rooting for the Yanks up there in the enemy territory. We need more of those.</p>
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		<title>By: beantownbosoxh8er</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/01/media-finally-realizes-that-pettitte-clemens-werent-friends-2019/#comment-46643</link>
		<dc:creator>beantownbosoxh8er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can stop visiting your site if that is what you want , calling ma a troll is a great way to get your viewing audience behind you.
 If I want politico Ill go somewhere else and I was quoting the post itself. 
 &quot;Nothing in this post is an endorsement of any political candidate or party. I don’t care for whom you choose to vote. Please leave the partisan politics outside of the comments.&quot;
 so if you want me to go else where so be it. I am here for the baseball, and I agreed with that statement of leaving the politics  ouside of the comments . 
 and if you like to discuss further in a less public manner I will do so as well.
 the ball is in your court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can stop visiting your site if that is what you want , calling ma a troll is a great way to get your viewing audience behind you.<br />
 If I want politico Ill go somewhere else and I was quoting the post itself.<br />
 &#8220;Nothing in this post is an endorsement of any political candidate or party. I don’t care for whom you choose to vote. Please leave the partisan politics outside of the comments.&#8221;<br />
 so if you want me to go else where so be it. I am here for the baseball, and I agreed with that statement of leaving the politics  ouside of the comments .<br />
 and if you like to discuss further in a less public manner I will do so as well.<br />
 the ball is in your court.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Ranger</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/01/media-finally-realizes-that-pettitte-clemens-werent-friends-2019/#comment-46635</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Ranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go young lady.
Right on, it wouldn&#039;t surprise many of the people on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go young lady.<br />
Right on, it wouldn&#8217;t surprise many of the people on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben K.</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/01/media-finally-realizes-that-pettitte-clemens-werent-friends-2019/#comment-46632</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to bait trolls, but please show me any other post here where I&#039;ve talked about Nevada. Half of this post is about the caucuses to make a point. 

As for this site being a baseball site, this site is run by me, Joe and Mike. Now and then, we might skip the baseball talk or bring it another topic to make a point. Why does that bother you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to bait trolls, but please show me any other post here where I&#8217;ve talked about Nevada. Half of this post is about the caucuses to make a point. </p>
<p>As for this site being a baseball site, this site is run by me, Joe and Mike. Now and then, we might skip the baseball talk or bring it another topic to make a point. Why does that bother you?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben K.</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/01/media-finally-realizes-that-pettitte-clemens-werent-friends-2019/#comment-46631</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Baseball Establishment will be through with him. No more jobs; no Hall of Fame spot. He&#039;ll be ostracized much like Pete Rose. But at this point, he will never admit steroid use. It would be too damaging.

If anyone should be worried about this question though it&#039;s really Miguel Tejada. He&#039;s still an active player and he needs a Visa to play baseball in the States. If the FBI finds out he lied to Congress, I&#039;m sure the State Department will be under a lot of pressure to deny that Visa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Baseball Establishment will be through with him. No more jobs; no Hall of Fame spot. He&#8217;ll be ostracized much like Pete Rose. But at this point, he will never admit steroid use. It would be too damaging.</p>
<p>If anyone should be worried about this question though it&#8217;s really Miguel Tejada. He&#8217;s still an active player and he needs a Visa to play baseball in the States. If the FBI finds out he lied to Congress, I&#8217;m sure the State Department will be under a lot of pressure to deny that Visa.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Bitters</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/01/media-finally-realizes-that-pettitte-clemens-werent-friends-2019/#comment-46627</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Bitters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the 4th report I have read about this situation with Roger Clemens whereby  &quot;anonymous&quot;  people are speaking out about what they know or think they do.

Basically, I think it&#039;s the press making up their own stuff to cause more media attention and sell papers, etc.  It&#039;s reporters writing their own opinion and putting it  off on &quot;anonymous&quot; sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the 4th report I have read about this situation with Roger Clemens whereby  &#8220;anonymous&#8221;  people are speaking out about what they know or think they do.</p>
<p>Basically, I think it&#8217;s the press making up their own stuff to cause more media attention and sell papers, etc.  It&#8217;s reporters writing their own opinion and putting it  off on &#8220;anonymous&#8221; sources.</p>
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