Comments on: Santana not worth the money?

By: Chris A

Chris A — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:29:44 +0000

testing

By: Adrian-Retire21

Adrian-Retire21 — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:19:30 +0000

Guys here’s why Santana is worth $25 million. Brett Tomko with a 5.55 Era as a reliever in the N.L is getting $3 million dollars for the Royals after not having a good year in the last ten years.

By: Fernando Sanchez

Fernando Sanchez — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:34:28 +0000

People…just without Mr..Torres …it all Yankees need to win the WS…Manager was the difference again California,,Boston,,Tampa and you see the serie with Indians..Mr. Torres just don’t know how to make a run..without a homer…leave the team the way it was..and let play ball..with a new manager who know how to run..change pitchers and play baseball.

By: Realist

Realist — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:28:34 +0000

Well I have egg on my face! I must have read it from one of those reporters that said Roger and Andy were BFFs????????????? I’ll try and find where I saw that.

Anyhow , my point about doing poorly after his buddy was traded shouldn’t be ignored and I noticed no one picked up on that

By: dan

dan — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:51:53 +0000

Bart, where’s this idea coming from that the Yankee offense will implode?

By: dan

dan — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:47:28 +0000

I looked it up. He’s made at least 5 starts in every single month of every season since he became a full time starter in 2004 (and the last 2 months of ’03). I’ve never heard anything about missing any time with injuries. Provide a link if you’ve seen otherwise.

By: steve (different one)

steve (different one) — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:29:15 +0000

Huges and IPK can’t get us there this year or next – if ever (they wil need an offense to compete with the same Sox, Tigers, and Indians).

says who?

By: Realist

Realist — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:27:29 +0000

He missed time each of the last two years due to arm trouble, look it up

By: Bart

Bart — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:18:28 +0000

He sums up the piece perfectly:

But if Santana ends up taking the hill in Game 1 of the World Series, the deal will considered a good one

The minor league roster is not going to feel the hurt

- the basis for the deal is taking the hill for game one of the 2008 WS, & – 2009, & 2010, before the offense implodes (the defense is already marginal)

- Santana is more likley to take the hill Game 1 than is Phil-

– the we love Phil (and I am one) commentary asks HIM to be #1 strater by the close of this year

– that is grossly unfair, and if we need a #1 to compete with Tigers, Indians, Red Sox then Santana is critical – even to shielding IPK and Joba as they grow (if Phil has to be the price)

– Phil will be ready – if he is ready – in 2011 and will have Cano and Arod as offense – and we will be talking about trading him or IPK or someone from that impoverished minor league roster of fabulous arms for offense —

In the best of all words — Santana plays for the Twins and goes free agent – the Yankees sign him for 2009 – and all we do as Yankee fans is watch Jeter age at SS while the Yankees miss the playoffs and Girardi is fired.

Does not stop me from being a crazy, outrageous, died in the wool Yankees Fan – but the idea is to put the best nine aon the field and make a run for the WS.

Huges and IPK can’t get us there this year or next – if ever (they wil need an offense to compete with the same Sox, Tigers, and Indians). Santana, a dominating lefty is less risk

MONEY — the Yankees afforded Pavano, Wright, Johnson, Mussina a bunch of useless 1B, 2B, and LF contracts and Giambi – grant the good Giambi years and impact, good Moose, good Johnson — the economics are simply not an issue – except for posturing in the press to get the best deal

No less a baseball authority than Posada, who was one of the earliest to comment on Hughes as special – said Get Santana

I love Jeter – I love Huges – I’d tade them both to beat the Red Sox and go on a successive year WS tear. Trouble is most of the time – it is not a Santana equivalent we trade for. This CORE team we so love failed against D’Backs – Angels, Marlins, Red Sox, Tigers, Indians MOSTLY due to unreliable pitching —

String it out as long as possibel but in the end get Santana – even if it takes Hughes, Melky, and a few minor leaguers

By: steve (different one)

steve (different one) — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:51:23 +0000

while i agree with your conclusions, and i would prefer the Yankees to keep Hughes, i don’t think this situation is really analogous to past “bad” trades.

trading for Johan Santana COULD be that “smart” trade you are talking about.

if they could do it without Hughes, which i don’t think they could, i think it WOULD be a smart trade.

it would be more analogous to trading for David Cone than for Kevin Brown.