Mar
19

Joba to the pen

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The Yankees did what we figured they’d do in deciding to start Joba Chamberlain in the bullpen this year. Girardi says his future is as a starter, though he didn’t say whether it would be this season.

Update by Ben: Tyler Kepner tells us that the Joba Rules will not be in effect this year. Joba can pitch whenever and as often as Joe Girardi and Dave Eiland see fit out of the pen.

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  • Adam

    if it doesn’t start this season, then it’ll never happen. after he throws 70 innings this year in relief, next year the yankees will say that they have to limit his innings because he can’t go much over 90. then he’ll have to start the year in the bullpen again. is anyone else afraid of this scenario?

  • J.R.

    This is the most realistic solution. He can only throw 140 innings this year. At some point he had to go to the pen. We all knew this was going to happen.

  • rbizzler

    I think that most of us are a bit nervous about that scenario coming to fruition. So far, everyone has been saying all of the right things about using him as a reliever in order to maximize his contribution despite his innings cap. I have no reason (as if right now anyway) to believe that the FO will alter their plan for Joba.

  • Adrian-Retire21

    My most scary scenario is Fransworth as our set-up man in the post season.Yes he should be our ace stater but in the post season he might be more valuable in thebullpen.

    • dan

      I’d put money on it being someone other than Farnsworth…. among Cox, Patterson, McCutchen, Ohlendorf, or even Edwar or Latroy, someone will step up and take that spot.

  • Brian

    No, because you can’t add 30 innings a year per the plan by pitching in the pen. And he’s not pitching 70 innings this year…I think it’s 140-150 with postseason. Unless Joba has a completely terrible transition mid-season to the rotation, however they fit him in there, this really isn’t that complicated, though it becomes so when you have this many cooks in the kitchen looking at the recipe.

  • http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=56352514 Jamal G.

    I’m not, after that interview Cashman had with M&MD, he sounded like a man on a mission arguing with that moron Russo about Joba’s plans. He says he will return to the minors mid-season to stretch out his arm and return to the majors as a starter. He said that the ENTIRE organization from Girardi to Hank believes this guy can be a front-line ace for the Yankees over the next decade.

    I’m not scared, I really believe in Ca$hmoney & Co. that they believe Joba is a future ace along with Phil Hughes (and Bentances/Brackman later on) in the near future. Also with the news of Cox returning to game action brings good news to the table as he might be a candidate who will become that bridge to MO later in the year. I think that’s the real important matter here, the fact that we have Cox, Mark Melancon, and Humberto Sanchez to possibly come in THIS year and help the ML bullpen.

  • Brian

    That was in response to Adam’s post.

    • http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=56352514 Jamal G.

      I think if Joba didn’t have the success he did last year in the 8th inning that would be his role this year. I believe that’s the best possible role but Cashman did say when they moved Joa to the pen in the minors that they envisioned him pitching the 8th in the Bronx, and if he didn’t think he could handle it then he would’ve never made the jump.

  • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com/ Bruno

    I agree Brian. I’m not worried at all. Most starters used to be broken in through the ‘pen. It makes sense due to innings limits. Few early, many late (when they count MUCH more).
    He should be the long-man/spot-starter. (ie: Johan Santana, Francisco Liriano, Chad Billingsley).Hughes, IPK, Moose will all need to be skipped once in a while due to innings (or fatigue in Moose’s case), step in Ace Joba.
    With 600inn for those 3 spots behind Wang & Pettite, that’s 4 pitchers w/ 140-150inn each. There’s still have Karstens, Rasner, etc. for filler.

    http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com/

    • http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=56352514 Jamal G.

      I think if Joba didn’t have the success he did last year in the 8th inning that would be his role this year. I believe that’s the best possible role but Cashman did say when they moved Joa to the pen in the minors that they envisioned him pitching the 8th in the Bronx, and if he didn’t think he could handle it then he would’ve never made the jump.

    • IA can of corn

      how do you limit the innings for Hughes so he doesn’t ruin his arm? He had less innings than Joba last year

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

        Hughes also tossed 146 innings in 2006, so he’ll probably toss something like 165, 170 innings this year. I think they can find a way to manage that.

  • barry

    The only realistic scenario I could imagine that would place Joba as a permanent reliever would have to come as Joba the Closer and MO isn’t going anywhere.

  • Realist

    Mo has possibly 2 more years left as a closer….

    Joba will never leave the pen , unless KRod or the like is aquired in Free Agency
    next year….he is destined to set up for Mo until Mo can save no mo………..

    Without a suitable replacement , I fear , that he will never leave the pen.

    But that’s just me…………

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  • http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=56352514 Jamal G.

    I don’t like the audio I’m hearing from Joe Girardi on the PeteAbe blog. He’s not saying definitively that Joba will go to the starting rotation this year, saying that if the 5 starters are healthy and effective it will make the decision “easier”. I was under the impression from Cashman’s interview that there was no discussion, that he will transition to the rotation at some point THIS season.

    Girardi did say that the long-term plan is for Joba to be a starter.

  • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com/ Bruno

    It’s been said here before (I forget the name of the thread) and I keep peddling it as well:

    They REALLY NEED to follow the blueprint that the Twins used for Santana.

    http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com/

  • http://yetanotheryankeeblogger.blogspot.com/ Wolf Williams

    Why do people “fear” Joba will never leave the pen? I HOPE he never leaves it! Who has been the most important, most constantly and most consistently brilliant Yankee these last 12 years? Mo Rivera. Personally, I think if we replace Mo (in 2010) with Joba, so much the better.

    A seemless transition at closer makes me feel a lot better than sending Joba to the starting rotation and hoping we get someone to replace Mo… someday.

    Joba is a known commodity in the pen. Why screw with that?

    My Joba post is here:

    http://yetanotheryankeeblogger.blogspot.com/

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