Just read this headline. I’m putting my money on the volcano.
Really off-topic, but interesting nonetheless: hillary or obama?
Ugh, neither. I’m going to write in Cashman when I vote. Is it just me, or do the presidential candidates seem extra crappy this go around?
I’m not sure — they always seem crappy to me. Possibly the distinction between crappy and extra crappy is too fine for me to recognize.
Not McCain. Anyone but McCain
IMO, John McCain represents everything that is wrong with America. That’s just me.
Why does an American hero like McCain, who stands for honesty and integrity represent, “everything that is wrong with this country”?
That’s the kind of drivel I expect from a Red Sox fan. I would encourage you to back up that statement.
this is getting really off-topic, but anyways:
HOW THE F*** CAN YOU SPEND 100 YEARS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN?
HOW CAN YOU BE “EXPERIENCED IN FOREIGN POLICY” AND CONFUSE IRAN (SUNNI) AND SHIA?
HOW CAN YOU BE CONSERVATIVE AFTER 8 YEARS OF GEORGE F***ING BUSH?
HOW CAN YOU HAVE NO PLAN TO CURE THIS ECONOMY?
besides, he is no war hero. he was POW. many other soldiers were POW, and they went through hell, and God bless ‘em. But that’s the only reason he has the “pull” to run for president. Besides, he attracts the votes of the ignorant of America (read: Rednecks) who vote in what they think is their best interest, but really isn’t (and that has been well-documented).
I don’t think you need to make your “point” with such language and attitude. I also think your points are racist and insensitive, calling John McCain’s supporters, “rednecks”. An equal name levied at the supporters of another candidate would probably be stricken from the comments and there would be a lot of comments against what you had said. However, degrading poor, rural whites is somehow excepted and using the term “redneck” to ascribe to a group of people who support McCain is just wrong.
As for your other point, how can I be conservative after 8 years of George Bush? The answer is simple: I DO NOT THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS THE ANSWER. I think that the other two choices represent government-based solutions to health care, economic problems and would be weak on extremists. All in all, policies we never recover from and usually end up costing us more and more in taxes.
Your comment is ironic to me, because as a conservative, I often believe the masses who vote for liberal candidates are the ones being duped into what is false information, false promises and false hope.
I guess it just depends on perspective. I have been fighting this battle for years and I am tired of it. The problem is we need to get off our butts and stop waiting for the government to fix our problems. The government has one big job: to keep us safe. That’s why we are in Afghanistan and that’s why we are in Iraq. It’s why we will be in Iran and Syria and everywhere else where they aid in attacking Americans anywhere.
Let me ask you this: should America have stood idly by after the first World Trade Center attack in 1993? Should we have stood idly by as Iraq shot at American planes over the Iraqi no-fly zone we were patrolling for the UN during the mid to late nineties? Should we stand idly by today while Iran and Syria push to threaten the peace initiative in Iraq?
As for the 100 years, stop repeating what you hear on TV. What Senator McCain was referring to was simply an honest analysis of Iraq is this century’s Germany. We have had a base in Germany for 60 years; do I hear any complaints about that in America? How about our bases in the Philippines or other out of the way places that serve as jumping off points for various needs throughout the world? That’s what was being referred to; not that we will be fighting for 100 years. Listen to the actual words he said; not what the talking heads say.
mccain gets a lot of free passes by the media. everyone knows that.
three (four, depending how you look at it) words for you: vast right-wing conspiracy
ok that came out of no where but point remains that conservatives dupe poor, ignorant people into voting for what doesn’t suit their interests. anyway…:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
do we forget this? goverment has an obligation under the Social Contract to “secure these rights”, which are “life, liberty, and the pursuit oof [h]appiness”. This means that government ought to look out for the welfare of its people domestically, providing health care, welfare, a plan to end the supbrime mortgage crisis, etc. because that is how people are truly happy. notice how it’s always the Republican (conservative) administrations where economic issues come to fruition: Nixon/Ford, Bush, and W. Bush. If you want to go farther back, then Herbert Hoover in 1929.
Anyway, always good debating politics, but this was really off-topic.
We can have financial security, health care and low interest rate mortgages up the wazoo, but if somebody comes along with dirty bombs, chemical weapons, etc. and kills thousands of us, they won’t do us much good. Notice too, it’s always Democrats that want to take my money and give it to those who haven’t earned it. I donate to charity as I’m able and A couple times a year I volunteer for worthy causes, but I can’t stand supporting Welfare and Unemployment programs that do not have solid guidelines with regard to time frames that people can utilize them for. Nobody will establish a good Health Care system because there are too many people involved who will stop getting paid. Obama and Clinton may truly want to create the system, but they stop short of promising it because they know better.
Here it is in nutshell, then I’ll get off my soap box, Republicans run with high deficits, but keep taxes low. Democrats run with low deficits, but tend to raise taxes. Pick your poison.
Interesting points all around though. I’m very impressed that so many of you pay this close attention to Politics. It’s nice to see in this day and age.
By the way Pablo, when you’re ready to overthrow the Government, as is your constitutional right to do, remember they protect their buildings with guns, as is their constitutional right to do.
Lol I don’t plan on overthrowing government
and don’t even get me started on gun control (though that obv. don’t apply to the feds)
Hey there, back again…
It is very interesting to talk to you, because we see the same thing from opposite perspectives. I think it is liberals who convince poor, ignorant people into voting for dreams and ideas that either can never come to pass or are not really in their best interest. Either way, it’s how I have felt for a long time and I was shocked to see someone from another perspective express the same view; just reversed. I guess it goes to show it’s all where you stand. I also interpret “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness differently. To me that means the government should stay out of my way so I can pursue those things. I don’t expect the government to fix my mistakes and I don’t want them to take a share off the top when I am successful to provide for me and others in the future. I support individual rights and the individual’s ability to work hard and raise themselves up. I feel liberals have killed some of this spirit in the past 80 years and now they want to put a knife it’s heart.
The opinions on the economic issues can be turned the other way, too: look at Jimmy Carter and the mess Regan had to fix in the early Eighties. However, what we really witness is economic cycles; they are just part of life. When things are going bad; people like to change parties. It’s just the way it is. Social programs and government solutions provide fixes to problems; however, they saddle people with big tax burdens. How much more could you do if there were no income tax? How many more people could you help?
As for me, I ascribe to a different document for the purpose of our government: The Constitution. Remember, the document you quote is basically a letter to England explaining why we are leaving; not a document that outlines the purpose of our government. That is done here:
“We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
I would go into what I think this means, but I think we would have different definitions of “promote the general welfare.” I guess that’s the way it is. I would love to convince you to look at my side as much as I am sure you would like to convince me. However, I think we come to the crux of the issue. Here we are, obviously two educated people who have come to different conclusions. We probably have similar backgrounds and all my life I have been surrounded by those who think differently from me; however, it has not altered the truth that I feel self evident: that government is not the solution; people are.
All the best to you all. I feel enriched from the discourse with you all.
You know these people’s stupidity actually make them traitors. The Declaration of Independence does state that every man has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Therefore, for one to obstruct this right whether it be his/her own right is an act of treachery against the US no?
OK, maybe this John Adams mini-series on HBO has gotten to my head just a bit but these people are idiots.
You sound like someone who should be reading Impatient Sufferance. I agree completely with you and your logic. I think I should be watching John Adams myself.
Thakns for the tip man, and is that Joseph P. article written by a certain Joseph P.?
“If you worry about something and it doesn’t happen, you look like a fool”
You look brilliant right now
I think I’ll wait for the world to end before I worry about oil shortage or global warming. After all, wouldn’t want to look stupid worrying about things like that.
it may seem weird, but its not actually that dangerous. they live on a shield volcano, which usually doesnt erupt with explosions and pyroclastic flows. its actually called an Aa flow, and it creeps along very very slowly. the fact the house is wooden could cause a fire problem if it were to creep close enough to light something in the night, but you’d probably notice that is was close before then. to each their own i guess…
I think Obama is the best candidate even though I think he should get more experience in Washington, DC and run in 2012. Just my opinion.
Yeah, I don’t think it’s good idea to live by a volcano.
Maybe eminent domain isn’t such a bad thing…………
Well when their house burns to the ground after being struck by liquid hot magma, I don’t want them to come to the Tax Payers looking for money. And I am a Democrat!
DanElmaleh – McCain isn’t the man of honesty and integrity that people in the media pritray him to be. Look at his ties to the Keating 5, his ties to big alcohol and his flip flopping on everything from whether or not Pat Buchanan and Jerry Falwell are/were agents of intolerance to immigration to taxes just to be elected President.
I suggest you read some of the stuff written about him by people in Arizona as opposed to the Washington Press Corps. You can visit http://www.McCainsFreeRide.com to learn a little bit more. It is a lefty website so some of what it said should probably be taken with a grain of salt but it doesn’t paint a flattering portrait.
Also watch Verdict w/ Dan Abrams on MSNBC at night…they have a daily segment on McCain’s free ride
I watched the Verdict last night. I now understand the definition of TV as a “vast wasteland”.
Mike N: I know that not everything he says is honest; but he’s fairly honest by political standards. All three remaining candidates are proven liars; however, none are convicted (remember that line: Reggie on Billy and George).
On a brighter note, The Red Sox lost today! That’s something we can all agree on…
To rail against any Politician for being crooked, dishonest, or because they have links to questionable people, is an exercise in futility. None of them are any more honest than the others. It’s best to look at what they’ve actually accomplished while in their respective offices and decide your vote that way. Plus, the conversation/debate will be a lot shorter and that will leave you more time to discuss baseball
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