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	<title>Comments on: A Foxian blunder or a business decision</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont get why this is news.  It was annoucned many times that they were switching over.  They had a contractual obligation with nascar.  And nascar even pushed back its start time just to accomodate the game.  All that was missed was one pitch and Cano was out anyway.  You cant plan for a 2.5 hour rain delay.  So Fox should have broke contract and pissed off a whole bunch of nascar fans or miss one pitch which was simulcast on FX.  They had no choice i dont blame fox they have to do what they have to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont get why this is news.  It was annoucned many times that they were switching over.  They had a contractual obligation with nascar.  And nascar even pushed back its start time just to accomodate the game.  All that was missed was one pitch and Cano was out anyway.  You cant plan for a 2.5 hour rain delay.  So Fox should have broke contract and pissed off a whole bunch of nascar fans or miss one pitch which was simulcast on FX.  They had no choice i dont blame fox they have to do what they have to do.</p>
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		<title>By: owine</title>
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		<dc:creator>owine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The previous commenter is correct. Fox's contract with NASCAR states they must show every race from start to finish without tape-delaying it in every market. Their hands were tied. They actually moved the start time of the race hoping to get the entire baseball game in. The race was scheduled to start about 20 minutes before it did. This is just a case of a bad break for Fox with such a long rain delay and in the end biting off more than they can chew when it comes to Saturday sports broadcasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The previous commenter is correct. Fox&#8217;s contract with NASCAR states they must show every race from start to finish without tape-delaying it in every market. Their hands were tied. They actually moved the start time of the race hoping to get the entire baseball game in. The race was scheduled to start about 20 minutes before it did. This is just a case of a bad break for Fox with such a long rain delay and in the end biting off more than they can chew when it comes to Saturday sports broadcasts.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>didn't you all just switch to FX?  sure, FX is only in 75% of houses that receive FOX, but seriously, is there anyone here that didn't see the end of the game that wanted to?

i would say the bigger problem with fox is that two saturdays ago (and many saturdays in the future) i couldn't (won't be able to) watch the yankees on my mlb extra innings package because fox owns the rights to all saturday days games.  and while the yankee game was on, fox wasn't even showing baseball at all!  maybe someone should make a big deal about this, after all, which is worse, missing two pitches or an entire game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>didn&#8217;t you all just switch to FX?  sure, FX is only in 75% of houses that receive FOX, but seriously, is there anyone here that didn&#8217;t see the end of the game that wanted to?</p>
<p>i would say the bigger problem with fox is that two saturdays ago (and many saturdays in the future) i couldn&#8217;t (won&#8217;t be able to) watch the yankees on my mlb extra innings package because fox owns the rights to all saturday days games.  and while the yankee game was on, fox wasn&#8217;t even showing baseball at all!  maybe someone should make a big deal about this, after all, which is worse, missing two pitches or an entire game?</p>
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		<title>By: tshades</title>
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		<dc:creator>tshades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No NASCAR race is entirely broadcast. there are plenty of commercial breaks during the 6 hours of driving in circles and the cars don't stop for that. i think it is beyond ridiculous to cut away with 2 strikes just so that we don't miss lap 2 of 480</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No NASCAR race is entirely broadcast. there are plenty of commercial breaks during the 6 hours of driving in circles and the cars don&#8217;t stop for that. i think it is beyond ridiculous to cut away with 2 strikes just so that we don&#8217;t miss lap 2 of 480</p>
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		<title>By: andrew33</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>few other notable starters, simple stats, era's vary
                     
maddux   8-18 after 32 starts
beckett     8-9  after 25, then in 2003 he was dominat in the postseason
glavine   9-21 after 43 starts
smoltz     14-18 after 41, decent era
halladay    12-14 after 31 starts
schilling - a mess his first few years  

lots of up and downs this year for hughes and i'm sure kennedy, hopefully they take their lumps early and are better as the season goes on, but it wont be surprising if it takes a year or 2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>few other notable starters, simple stats, era&#8217;s vary</p>
<p>maddux   8-18 after 32 starts<br />
beckett     8-9  after 25, then in 2003 he was dominat in the postseason<br />
glavine   9-21 after 43 starts<br />
smoltz     14-18 after 41, decent era<br />
halladay    12-14 after 31 starts<br />
schilling - a mess his first few years  </p>
<p>lots of up and downs this year for hughes and i&#8217;m sure kennedy, hopefully they take their lumps early and are better as the season goes on, but it wont be surprising if it takes a year or 2</p>
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		<title>By: barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats why games on YES are so much better, no nuisances or pointless interruptions like ESPN and it's constant sports updates during the game. Maybe I'm just a big YES fan. 
Oh yea, any news on whether or not Moeller was the call up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats why games on YES are so much better, no nuisances or pointless interruptions like ESPN and it&#8217;s constant sports updates during the game. Maybe I&#8217;m just a big YES fan.<br />
Oh yea, any news on whether or not Moeller was the call up?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX would still be to blame for entering into a contract without exceptions for the affected markets, thereby risking the kind of embarrassment that I referenced in my other post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOX would still be to blame for entering into a contract without exceptions for the affected markets, thereby risking the kind of embarrassment that I referenced in my other post.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no way that they should have cut away in the New York and Boston markets.

If Cano had hit a HR or the Yankees had staged a comeback, the blunder would have rivaled NBC 's (iirc, I was a kid) decision to cut away from a Jets/Raiders gain for the movie called "Heidi," after which (again, iirc) the Raiders staged a last minute comeback win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way that they should have cut away in the New York and Boston markets.</p>
<p>If Cano had hit a HR or the Yankees had staged a comeback, the blunder would have rivaled NBC &#8217;s (iirc, I was a kid) decision to cut away from a Jets/Raiders gain for the movie called &#8220;Heidi,&#8221; after which (again, iirc) the Raiders staged a last minute comeback win.</p>
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		<title>By: Count Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Count Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify though -- I read that FOX didn't have a choice. Their contract with NASCAR specifically states that they have to show that race in its entirety -- &lt;i&gt;from start to finish&lt;/i&gt;. So they had to cut over before the race started no matter what. Their MLB contract doesn't have the same restriction so their hands were tied.

In other words, it wasn't even about ratings -- it was a contractual clause which left them no choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify though &#8212; I read that FOX didn&#8217;t have a choice. Their contract with NASCAR specifically states that they have to show that race in its entirety &#8212; <i>from start to finish</i>. So they had to cut over before the race started no matter what. Their MLB contract doesn&#8217;t have the same restriction so their hands were tied.</p>
<p>In other words, it wasn&#8217;t even about ratings &#8212; it was a contractual clause which left them no choice.</p>
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