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	<title>Comments on: So Phil had another bad start</title>
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		<title>By: Rob_in_CT</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/04/14/so-phil-had-another-bad-start-2555/#comment-66969</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob_in_CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It be early, folks.  This is a really good team.  Every other team likely to be in contention this season also has holes.  Patience is needed if this team is ever to put a good team on the field for less than $200 million.  

This could be a transition year where the young pitchers take some lumps and the Yanks miss the playoffs.  It's certainly possible.  It's also entirely possible that Hughes comes around, the offense takes off, etc., and they win the division.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It be early, folks.  This is a really good team.  Every other team likely to be in contention this season also has holes.  Patience is needed if this team is ever to put a good team on the field for less than $200 million.  </p>
<p>This could be a transition year where the young pitchers take some lumps and the Yanks miss the playoffs.  It&#8217;s certainly possible.  It&#8217;s also entirely possible that Hughes comes around, the offense takes off, etc., and they win the division.</p>
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		<title>By: nick blasioli</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/04/14/so-phil-had-another-bad-start-2555/#comment-66684</link>
		<dc:creator>nick blasioli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its just hard for me to come to terms with the fact that with a 200 million payroll...they should be better..thats all..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its just hard for me to come to terms with the fact that with a 200 million payroll&#8230;they should be better..thats all..</p>
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		<title>By: Steve S</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/04/14/so-phil-had-another-bad-start-2555/#comment-66681</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be my fault that I wasnt clear.  Im not saying that Cashman is wrong, or that they shoudlnt do it.  What I am saying is the attitude that someone who says play for this year is absolutely wrong.  The long term success thing is great, but when you have a $200M payroll, the best player in the game at 3rd, an aging  SS, an aging CA, and an aging hall of fame closer, then planning for ten years down the line is fun, but I dont think its crazy to say lets win this year.   And guess what Phil Hughes is now in this rotation so he faces the slings and arrows just like anyone else.  Its not as if Ben says well we should be patient because Mussina is close to 40 and four runs in six innings aint too bad.    Hughes had the luxury of patience when he was at AA and AAA, but now he is pitching where it counts.  

The dynasty was also built on the arms of David Cone, El Duque, Jimmy Key, Roger Clemens, and David Wells.  So enough with this self loathing of the Yankee resources.  They buy championships, we will continue to buy championships, whether it be through free agents, or through trades or through going over slot.  

Nobody said trade Phil Hughes or he is a bust.  But he isnt beyond reproach, and it certainly is against the law (contrary to what some people may think here), to say that this guy might end being a flop.  Just like its alright for everyone here to arbitrarily project that the kid will be lights out for years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be my fault that I wasnt clear.  Im not saying that Cashman is wrong, or that they shoudlnt do it.  What I am saying is the attitude that someone who says play for this year is absolutely wrong.  The long term success thing is great, but when you have a $200M payroll, the best player in the game at 3rd, an aging  SS, an aging CA, and an aging hall of fame closer, then planning for ten years down the line is fun, but I dont think its crazy to say lets win this year.   And guess what Phil Hughes is now in this rotation so he faces the slings and arrows just like anyone else.  Its not as if Ben says well we should be patient because Mussina is close to 40 and four runs in six innings aint too bad.    Hughes had the luxury of patience when he was at AA and AAA, but now he is pitching where it counts.  </p>
<p>The dynasty was also built on the arms of David Cone, El Duque, Jimmy Key, Roger Clemens, and David Wells.  So enough with this self loathing of the Yankee resources.  They buy championships, we will continue to buy championships, whether it be through free agents, or through trades or through going over slot.  </p>
<p>Nobody said trade Phil Hughes or he is a bust.  But he isnt beyond reproach, and it certainly is against the law (contrary to what some people may think here), to say that this guy might end being a flop.  Just like its alright for everyone here to arbitrarily project that the kid will be lights out for years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis G.</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/04/14/so-phil-had-another-bad-start-2555/#comment-66674</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and this is why it's almost impossible for the Yankees/Cashman to build an efficient, longterm juggernaut. god, i was hoping other fans wouldn't turn this quickly. how stupid of me.

"And this whole argument about the wisdom of the Big 3 over the long term is getting old." just 13 games in and the patience is gone. ugh.

the only reason the dynasty Yanks could hang on to DJ, Pettitte, Posada, Mo was that they sucked the last 15 years. the current Yankees have made the playoffs every year so the fans grow impatient after just 2 damn weeks (when the team is only 1.5 games out of 1st no less).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and this is why it&#8217;s almost impossible for the Yankees/Cashman to build an efficient, longterm juggernaut. god, i was hoping other fans wouldn&#8217;t turn this quickly. how stupid of me.</p>
<p>&#8220;And this whole argument about the wisdom of the Big 3 over the long term is getting old.&#8221; just 13 games in and the patience is gone. ugh.</p>
<p>the only reason the dynasty Yanks could hang on to DJ, Pettitte, Posada, Mo was that they sucked the last 15 years. the current Yankees have made the playoffs every year so the fans grow impatient after just 2 damn weeks (when the team is only 1.5 games out of 1st no less).</p>
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		<title>By: steve (different one)</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/04/14/so-phil-had-another-bad-start-2555/#comment-66667</link>
		<dc:creator>steve (different one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/04/14/so-phil-had-another-bad-start-2555/#comment-66660</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally true. Yankees fans should take notes from last year and continue to revel in the 2007 Yankees success stor.... oh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally true. Yankees fans should take notes from last year and continue to revel in the 2007 Yankees success stor&#8230;. oh.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its showing a little bit of one sideness and putting the blonders on when you write off Hughes' last two starts.  And this whole argument about the wisdom of the Big 3 over the long term is getting old.  Look I think Hughes is going to be good pitcher, even great in some years, and I think the last two starts have evidenced the fact that he has a lot more development to do.  The optimal words are "I think", thats what is so frustrating about this lets build for a dynasty or long term dominance.  I see a team that has been unlucky in the first round the last couple of years.  But nonetheless I still see a team that with some luck and better managing could make a run in October and win a championship.  Ill worry about 2009 come November.  Im sorry but watching those guys from up North win two in the last four years knaws at me.  So while I hope these three guys are the beginning of something special, my greater hope, is that come November 4, 2008, there is a parade in the Canyon of Heroes.  

Forget about Santana, just judge him as you would any pitcher on a team that should win 95 games.  He has had two horrendous starts in a row, which is detrimental to the team.  I understand he is young, but he has looked less the equipped to handle things.  I know its cold, but guess what if he pitches in NY then at least one month of the year it'll be cold when he pitches (April) and optimally it will be cold in another month (October).  SO enough with that stuff.  It can explain one poor outing but he got overwhelmed and had no control which may be a sign that he needs more time in the minors.  Hopefully, thats not the case, and two ineffective starts in April doesnt provide sufficient evidence of that, especially in light of his performance last September.  But its fair to start saying he needs to start demonstrating that he belongs on a contending team.  

And cut the shit, take down those T-Shirts we look like Red Sox fans making up corny T-shirts to support guys who have barely seen 100 innings in the major leagues.  Oh and someone tell Phil to take down that blog, its gonna get really ugly.  Or the ridiculous nicknames.  Lets hope one of these three is on this team five years from now and we can call that a success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its showing a little bit of one sideness and putting the blonders on when you write off Hughes&#8217; last two starts.  And this whole argument about the wisdom of the Big 3 over the long term is getting old.  Look I think Hughes is going to be good pitcher, even great in some years, and I think the last two starts have evidenced the fact that he has a lot more development to do.  The optimal words are &#8220;I think&#8221;, thats what is so frustrating about this lets build for a dynasty or long term dominance.  I see a team that has been unlucky in the first round the last couple of years.  But nonetheless I still see a team that with some luck and better managing could make a run in October and win a championship.  Ill worry about 2009 come November.  Im sorry but watching those guys from up North win two in the last four years knaws at me.  So while I hope these three guys are the beginning of something special, my greater hope, is that come November 4, 2008, there is a parade in the Canyon of Heroes.  </p>
<p>Forget about Santana, just judge him as you would any pitcher on a team that should win 95 games.  He has had two horrendous starts in a row, which is detrimental to the team.  I understand he is young, but he has looked less the equipped to handle things.  I know its cold, but guess what if he pitches in NY then at least one month of the year it&#8217;ll be cold when he pitches (April) and optimally it will be cold in another month (October).  SO enough with that stuff.  It can explain one poor outing but he got overwhelmed and had no control which may be a sign that he needs more time in the minors.  Hopefully, thats not the case, and two ineffective starts in April doesnt provide sufficient evidence of that, especially in light of his performance last September.  But its fair to start saying he needs to start demonstrating that he belongs on a contending team.  </p>
<p>And cut the shit, take down those T-Shirts we look like Red Sox fans making up corny T-shirts to support guys who have barely seen 100 innings in the major leagues.  Oh and someone tell Phil to take down that blog, its gonna get really ugly.  Or the ridiculous nicknames.  Lets hope one of these three is on this team five years from now and we can call that a success.</p>
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		<title>By: nick blasioli</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/04/14/so-phil-had-another-bad-start-2555/#comment-66636</link>
		<dc:creator>nick blasioli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh..i almost forgot steve...i didnt know you had a brain....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh..i almost forgot steve&#8230;i didnt know you had a brain&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: nick blasioli</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/04/14/so-phil-had-another-bad-start-2555/#comment-66633</link>
		<dc:creator>nick blasioli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes steve,,i still stick with my predictions in the off season...and anyone with any knowledge of baseball can clearly see that the yankees have alot of holes in their team..i also know how long the season is and i can see many problems with the team...you need to open up your eyes...dont keep bringing up last year about hughes...outside of that one game he almost pitched a no hitter....his era is over 5.00...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes steve,,i still stick with my predictions in the off season&#8230;and anyone with any knowledge of baseball can clearly see that the yankees have alot of holes in their team..i also know how long the season is and i can see many problems with the team&#8230;you need to open up your eyes&#8230;dont keep bringing up last year about hughes&#8230;outside of that one game he almost pitched a no hitter&#8230;.his era is over 5.00&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: steve (different one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve (different one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all offseason all you posted about was how the Tigers were so much better than the Yankees.  and the Mariners.  and the Indians. and the Angels. 

since you seem to think the season is only 13 games long, how is that looking?

all of those teams, AND the Red Sox, are all hovering around .500 (except Detroit).

saying, "right now" there is "no way" the Yankees make the playoffs is so stupid it makes my brain hurt.

seriously, you are the worst type of fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all offseason all you posted about was how the Tigers were so much better than the Yankees.  and the Mariners.  and the Indians. and the Angels. </p>
<p>since you seem to think the season is only 13 games long, how is that looking?</p>
<p>all of those teams, AND the Red Sox, are all hovering around .500 (except Detroit).</p>
<p>saying, &#8220;right now&#8221; there is &#8220;no way&#8221; the Yankees make the playoffs is so stupid it makes my brain hurt.</p>
<p>seriously, you are the worst type of fan.</p>
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