Comments on: Torre and 9-13 Dodgers enjoying each other in LA

By: Mike P

Mike P — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:24:52 +0000

Why all the hate for Torre? He’s achieved enough in the game that he can retire on his own terms. If those terms include managing the Dodgers for a while, that’s fine by me. I wish him all the best.

He didn’t have the greatest end to his Yankee career and had habits that piss a lot of people off. But hey given the start to his Yankee career I can forgive him now it’s over and done with. Maybe some people here should do that too. Remember how you felt in ‘99?

By: LiveFromNewYork

LiveFromNewYork — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:02:06 +0000

Maybe he’s just trying to keep Torre from using him. He was once a helluva pitcher.

By: mike

mike — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:16:32 +0000

True enough, but for me its always “where’s the beef” with him - we cannot criticize his in-game managerial style, or his use of the pen, or inability to use younger or more talented players instead of vets, but we are trated to his Phil Jackson svengali-like juggling of the modern ego as a reason to pay him an extraordinary salary. Fine, although when 40% of his 2000 team is taking steroids, he couldn’t deal with Hayes/Boggs, or Fielder/Martinez, David Wells Nellie, Lloyd….plus he is 4-whatever in the playoffs because he cannot sit veteran Giambi or Sheffield during the Detroit series to get Melky at-bats, he rats out A-Rod, or we see Bernie DHing because of “trust” I want to blow my brains out - how does he manage the modern athlete so well??

By: mike

mike — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:08:29 +0000

Remember it isnt the actual innings they throw - he seems to get them up in the pen 150 nights a year, so its not the amount of innings they throw, its likely the total throws they make in a season which kills these guys!!

By: steve (different one)

steve (different one) — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:07:38 +0000

thank you.

i was waiting for someone to bring that up.

there is a $40M gap between the next highest team in the division, and that team is the Giants, who are terrible.

they have $50M on the D-Backs.

By: ceciguante

ceciguante — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:02:10 +0000

if you’re saying he over-relies on certain bullpen pitchers, and leans too heavily on certain players, i can’t argue with that. but it’s 22 games in, and being called hubristic for daring to manage the LA dodgers is wrong. he didn’t want to stand for an incentivized contract with the yanks, so he got another job. let’s just extend him more than 22 games before we roast him on a spit, whether you like his managerial style or not. especially when any mention of criticism of a young yankee pitcher on this blog is met with howls of protest and qualifications (i.e. “cold weather”), and the requisite “small sample size” response.

the dodgers are 9-13. small sample size.

By: Ben K.

Ben K. — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:58:30 +0000

His 7.20 ERA out of the pen would make him better than only LaTroy Hawkins on the 2008 Yankees.

By: LiveFromNewYork

LiveFromNewYork — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:57:13 +0000

How is Scottie doing? I wish he was back in the Bronx. I bet he does too.

By: keith

keith — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:34:06 +0000

Isn’t the Dodger’s payroll 40-50million higher than the rest of their division? Stupid writers sucks.

By: bill73083

bill73083 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:11:19 +0000

I have to agree. Its still early in the season. They have some very good young talent. Their pythag record is pretty good, and I see no reason that they can’t reach those numbers in actuality.

Also, for all the talk of Torre abusing relief pitchers; Beimel is on track to pitch 56 innings, Proctor is on track to pitch 77 and Broxton is on track to pitch 74. I don’t really think that those are absurd innings for an entire season.