Why? Cause it’s kind of bush. I’m not saying it’s the most bush-league thing you can, I’m not saying it’s ruining baseball. It’s just kind of bush.

You know this already, and you want start with “where’s this list? where can I find this list? is this a witty enough line to end my post?”

Joba is showing up David Dellucci cause Dellucci put his fastball in the seats. Now I have to hear Joe Girardi invent reasons why this celebration isn’t over the top (”He’s looking at our dugout, not Dellucci.” — first time I’ve ever heard any BS like that).

This isn’t the NFL, this isn’t the NBA, the NHL, Premier League or anything of the sort. It’s 162 games for the proudest franchise in sports. Act like you’ve been there before and don’t spaz the fuck out when you strike out a lifetime .260 hitter with two outs, nobody on, and a 3 run lead.

i don’t see how “freaking out on the umpire” on a call he didn’t like is somehow more or less “bush” than celebrating a strikeout.

seems kindof arbitrary.

where do we find this list of what is ok and what isn’t?

Mike and the Mad Dog is actually WORSE than the Post and Daily News. By far.

Dog was maintaining today that Joba is wrong because he was trying to prove to Dellucci that he somehow got even, as if HE’S A FUCKING MIND READER AND KNOWS WHAT JOBA’S THINKING. The only person on the planet other than Dog who said this was Dellucci, who we’ve all known was a self-obsessed idiot ever since he played the outfield (poorly, i might add) all those years ago for us.

I love how he ignores the fact that Joba has always had the same emotional reaction throughout his entire career, but here, this time, in this case, all of a sudden, it’s not emotion, it’s “getting even”. He even said this whopper (and I’m paraphrasing)…

“What if after Joba and his fist pump, the Yankees lose the game in the 9th? Now, you’re like a wideout in football who’s jumping up and spiking the ball for a first down when your team is losing by 21 points in the fourth quarter!!!”

He was actually criticizing Joba for celebrating an individual accomplishment in the midst of his team losing a game, EVEN THOUGH HIS TEAM WASN’T LOSING THE GAME.

HOW CAN YOU ARGUE WITH THAT ASTONISHING LEVEL OF STUPIDITY!!!!

We get hypercritized.

Papelbon
Sabathia
Ortiz
Manny
Beckett
Fransisco Rodriguez
A.J. Pierzynski
Carlos Zambrano
Elijah Dukes
Felix Rodriguez
Delmon Young

… all these guys do MUCH, MUCH worse stuff than Joba on a daily basis, but they’re not Yankees, so they’re not “what’s wrong with baseball, and possibly the world”.

Well, the ‘team’ had just lost 2 in a row and maybe, just maybe, Joba was pumped because the ‘team’ might actually win the game after getting out of that inning. (Taking into consideration that Mo is simply lights-out automatic this year, of course.)

If you want to say ‘excessive’, fine. But if I hear the word ‘bush’ thrown around one more time, I’m honestly going to be sick.

Of course I can’t *stand* it when another player does it to us (K-Rod, Papelbon), but I would defend his right to do it. We’re talking about reactions, not deliberate attempts to make the opposing players look silly (Manny et al).

I love emotion in my baseball. Take away the passion and we’re dealing with entire teams full of guys with Mariano’s demeanor. Which is fine, just not at ALL interesting to watch.

Joba’s 21 and enjoying his professional career to the fullest. Yes it’s only the 8th inning and we were up by 3 runs, but to him that’s the most important situation in the world because it’s *his* job. If he does it well, then why shouldn’t he be allowed to express emotion over it?

sorry joba - need to tone it down a bit, maybe just a scream with no fist pump or a little fistpump like mariano will sometimes do

I think that some of Manny’s stuff is ridiculous because it seems staged. Joba seems to just express his emotions either way.

If Papelbon gave up and HR to Melky and was devastated by it and SHOWED that devastation then struck him out and celebrated a few days later…that WOULD make sense. He would wear his emotions…good and bad on his sleeve…

When the Red Sox were down to the Indians last year Manny was like, “Who cares?” He doesn’t show his emotions both ways…he ONLY shows them when he’s being a prancing moron.

If someone wants to take a loss hard and celebrate a win…GREAT…but Manny prances and then when the team is down he says “Oh who cares?” THAT’S selfish…that’s not about the team.

To really FEEL failure is to really FEEL triumph.

CMW was devastated by his performance in the playoffs last year. He is probably pretty happy with his performance this year. Can you tell? NO.

He acts the same way both ways.

Joba is the opposite…he celebrates the highs and freaks out during the lows.

Good and bad.

And that is FINE and if Papelbon did the same thing it would be fine.