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	<title>Comments on: Hank&#8217;s non-buyers remorse</title>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/05/16/hanks-non-buyers-remorse-2816/#comment-82972</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 14:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no research - if we all sat down fo twenty minutes and thought about it e could come with a far better list.

i know Manny has come through big fo the sox the past few years, but how can you possibly put a guy on this list who was put on irevocable waiver 3 seperate times because they wanted to dump his salary.

he wasnt signed in 2005- what about all those other years when he was a drain on the red sox payroll.

look at the marlins in 1997 - there about 5 free agents from that team that belong on the list because not only did they bring a WS, but their subsequent trades set the team up for another world series in 2004</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no research - if we all sat down fo twenty minutes and thought about it e could come with a far better list.</p>
<p>i know Manny has come through big fo the sox the past few years, but how can you possibly put a guy on this list who was put on irevocable waiver 3 seperate times because they wanted to dump his salary.</p>
<p>he wasnt signed in 2005- what about all those other years when he was a drain on the red sox payroll.</p>
<p>look at the marlins in 1997 - there about 5 free agents from that team that belong on the list because not only did they bring a WS, but their subsequent trades set the team up for another world series in 2004</p>
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		<title>By: River Ave. Blues &#124; The quiet counterbalance to bloviating Hank</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/05/16/hanks-non-buyers-remorse-2816/#comment-82849</link>
		<dc:creator>River Ave. Blues &#124; The quiet counterbalance to bloviating Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 06:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hank Steinbrenner can shoot off his mouth all he wants these days, every now and then, a piece comes along that reminds us of the checks and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hank Steinbrenner can shoot off his mouth all he wants these days, every now and then, a piece comes along that reminds us of the checks and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lanny</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/05/16/hanks-non-buyers-remorse-2816/#comment-82831</link>
		<dc:creator>Lanny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 05:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okajima did pretty much dominate last yr for what 2 mill?

Heyman did leave off Unit so his list wasnt exactly a research job right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okajima did pretty much dominate last yr for what 2 mill?</p>
<p>Heyman did leave off Unit so his list wasnt exactly a research job right?</p>
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		<title>By: A.D.</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/05/16/hanks-non-buyers-remorse-2816/#comment-82776</link>
		<dc:creator>A.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completly, I think this is somewhat unfounded, the issue for the most part this season has been offense anyways, if Hank actually said these things we'd have heard them, he's proven that if people want to hear him speak or not, he will speak.

Additionally there was the story that Hank didn't want to take on more payroll, so it was either Pettite for 16M or trading for Santana and signing him, so in reality our rotation would be Santana, Mussina, Joba?, and then.... suppose Rasner makes the club, then maybe they sign Loshe who'd probably get lit up in the AL, or Igawa, or White.  So presumably the rotation would be weaker, or just as weak with a lot less promise.

If IPK goes anywhere for this team it should be for a stud 1B prostpect like Kendry Morales</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completly, I think this is somewhat unfounded, the issue for the most part this season has been offense anyways, if Hank actually said these things we&#8217;d have heard them, he&#8217;s proven that if people want to hear him speak or not, he will speak.</p>
<p>Additionally there was the story that Hank didn&#8217;t want to take on more payroll, so it was either Pettite for 16M or trading for Santana and signing him, so in reality our rotation would be Santana, Mussina, Joba?, and then&#8230;. suppose Rasner makes the club, then maybe they sign Loshe who&#8217;d probably get lit up in the AL, or Igawa, or White.  So presumably the rotation would be weaker, or just as weak with a lot less promise.</p>
<p>If IPK goes anywhere for this team it should be for a stud 1B prostpect like Kendry Morales</p>
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		<title>By: NC Saint</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/05/16/hanks-non-buyers-remorse-2816/#comment-82704</link>
		<dc:creator>NC Saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see any reason to take Heyman's word for this. Hank hasn't publicly said anything to indicate he isn't being patient with the kids, and that's certainly not because he's shy about saying whatever comes into his head. I don't have any sources inside the organization, and perhaps it's best not to assume people are lying, but consider:

- Hank went off on an unhinged rant about the team's performance the other day. His focus: players earning their high salaries. Clearly not a shot at a couple of kids making 6 figures.

- During the offseason, he went out of his way to say that the non-move shouldn't be evaluated based on their success this season. Then he made similarly reassuring noises a few weeks ago.

So if Hank is happy saying poorly-thought out things that undermine his executives, coaches, and/or players to anyone who will listen, why would he have a seperate set of poorly-thought out views that he keeps a secret from everyone but unnamed sources?

I think the media loves this storyline too much to let it die, whatever the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see any reason to take Heyman&#8217;s word for this. Hank hasn&#8217;t publicly said anything to indicate he isn&#8217;t being patient with the kids, and that&#8217;s certainly not because he&#8217;s shy about saying whatever comes into his head. I don&#8217;t have any sources inside the organization, and perhaps it&#8217;s best not to assume people are lying, but consider:</p>
<p>- Hank went off on an unhinged rant about the team&#8217;s performance the other day. His focus: players earning their high salaries. Clearly not a shot at a couple of kids making 6 figures.</p>
<p>- During the offseason, he went out of his way to say that the non-move shouldn&#8217;t be evaluated based on their success this season. Then he made similarly reassuring noises a few weeks ago.</p>
<p>So if Hank is happy saying poorly-thought out things that undermine his executives, coaches, and/or players to anyone who will listen, why would he have a seperate set of poorly-thought out views that he keeps a secret from everyone but unnamed sources?</p>
<p>I think the media loves this storyline too much to let it die, whatever the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hank seems to have the powe because he gives all the quotes.  he seems alot more like  his father and to be honest i wish he was in more control because it would have meant getting santana.

i also worry that this 80 million dollars coming off the payroll isnt going to go entirly toward players - i want an owne moe cocerned with profit.  we will see next off season - not only should that 80 million be spent, but with no revenue sharing next season and the huge profit the ne stadium will make they better spend 100 million and field a damn god team</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hank seems to have the powe because he gives all the quotes.  he seems alot more like  his father and to be honest i wish he was in more control because it would have meant getting santana.</p>
<p>i also worry that this 80 million dollars coming off the payroll isnt going to go entirly toward players - i want an owne moe cocerned with profit.  we will see next off season - not only should that 80 million be spent, but with no revenue sharing next season and the huge profit the ne stadium will make they better spend 100 million and field a damn god team</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fromalmost every report i read it was never kennedy and hughes besides there were low cost th staters to be had and had the trade ben made perhaps joba would have been the number 5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fromalmost every report i read it was never kennedy and hughes besides there were low cost th staters to be had and had the trade ben made perhaps joba would have been the number 5</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/05/16/hanks-non-buyers-remorse-2816/#comment-82688</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it me or has people overrate Hank in a standpoint that he has all the power in the world and how most of the things he says is BS. Not to mention, it's like the media are just instigating stuff knowing who Hank is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it me or has people overrate Hank in a standpoint that he has all the power in the world and how most of the things he says is BS. Not to mention, it&#8217;s like the media are just instigating stuff knowing who Hank is.</p>
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		<title>By: whozat</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/05/16/hanks-non-buyers-remorse-2816/#comment-82680</link>
		<dc:creator>whozat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"unless there is a drastic turnaround by these kids"

And there are many reasons to think there will be.

Yeah, if Hughes and Kennedy become journeymen, turns out Cash guessed wrong.  But, with the data he had before him...it certainly looked like the right call to me.

Especially when the Twins just kept taking proposals back and forth between the Sox and Yanks.  It was clear they just wanted to keep playing them off each other, and you have no idea where that ends.  Once there were no acceptable CFers out there to be signed for just cash, I think the Yanks had no choice but to walk away.  Otherwise, you're talking about Damon or Corey Patterson out there every day, OR trading even MORE of your pitching depth for a solid CFer, putting Rasner or Igawa in the 5-slot to start the year and then hoping no one gets hurt because all your starting pitching depth got traded before the season even began.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;unless there is a drastic turnaround by these kids&#8221;</p>
<p>And there are many reasons to think there will be.</p>
<p>Yeah, if Hughes and Kennedy become journeymen, turns out Cash guessed wrong.  But, with the data he had before him&#8230;it certainly looked like the right call to me.</p>
<p>Especially when the Twins just kept taking proposals back and forth between the Sox and Yanks.  It was clear they just wanted to keep playing them off each other, and you have no idea where that ends.  Once there were no acceptable CFers out there to be signed for just cash, I think the Yanks had no choice but to walk away.  Otherwise, you&#8217;re talking about Damon or Corey Patterson out there every day, OR trading even MORE of your pitching depth for a solid CFer, putting Rasner or Igawa in the 5-slot to start the year and then hoping no one gets hurt because all your starting pitching depth got traded before the season even began.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant that Hal is the brother with a working brain.

See &lt;a href="http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spyside165687998may16,0,7096441.story?track=rss" rel="nofollow"&gt;Newsday&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant that Hal is the brother with a working brain.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spyside165687998may16,0,7096441.story?track=rss" rel="nofollow">Newsday</a></p>
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