Yanks take crowbar to Hughes’ rib

Any day now, Robbie
Game 30: Treading water

The Yankees continued to make up injuries plaguing the 21-year-old Phil Hughes after his 22 disappointing innings this year. This time, the team claims that he has a fractured rib. He will be shut down for four weeks until the Yanks can come up with another injury to keep their prized prospect out of the rotation. This is what happens when you high-five Shelley Duncan one too many times.

In all seriousness, this is a real injury; Hughes has a stress fracture in his rib cage and will indeed be shut down for at least four weeks. Clearly, this is not good news for the Yanks, and it puts more pressure on Ian Kennedy. How about — and I’ll have more on this tonight — prepping Joba for the rotation sooner rather than later?

Any day now, Robbie
Game 30: Treading water
  • dan

    Not sure if you’re trying to be funny, but this isn’t fake. He won’t touch a baseball for 4 weeks, and then will rehab in the minors once he’s healed. If they’re looking for a way to send him down then they wouldn’t be shutting him down.

    • dan

      Of course, if you’re trying to be funny then I just look like an idiot now.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

        The injury’s very real. The post is mocking those who thought his original injury was phony.

        • ceciguante

          including you, ben? you were quoting the onion in your last post, if i recall….

  • http://madein1903.com felix the cat

    Zack Greinke didn’t touch a baseball for almost a year and he turned out well.

  • Count Zero

    If Rasner craps out as soon as he gets a MLB start, you have to start thinking about Joba in the rotation earlier than scheduled. I just don’t see how you can avoid thinking about it. But no matter what, it’s still a solution that would take a month to implement.

    Maybe Rasner will come up and pull an Aaron Small…


    OK — I’m better now. Really.

    • question mark

      Rasner has shown more in his brief career than Small ever did before being possesed by Bob Gibson for half a year.

  • Phil McCracken

    Time to move Chamberlain to the rotation. Longer they put it off, longer it will take to make the change later.

    If he only pitches 70 innings this year in a full season of bullpen use, then he’s down to 100-120 innings next year, instead of 180 if he hits his target this season.

  • Lanny

    Maybe we have a reason now why he was so off.

    They are going to need a Millwood or someone of that ilk in here to be the #3.

  • http://www.myspace.com/j_panama Jamal G.

    See what happens when you make baseless proclamations? You lok like an ass when more information comes out. I understood why people had second thoughts as to if Phil Hughes was actually injred but for people, media “professionals” included to outright say the man is not injured (especially you Christopher Russo) was just ignorant. You do not make these kinds of claims without any inside information, ou just don’t.

    Now I really hope he did not further the injury by making the start against Detroit because he said he felt something in the Chicago start and ket his mouth shut.

    • http://www.myspace.com/j_panama Jamal G.

      Sorry, I meant especially Peter Abraham. He took countless shots against Joe Girardi for playing coy with him when it came to Phil Hughes’ rotation status and health. He basically was a couple words short of saying Girardi lied about the injury and Hughes is just ineffective, calling it “mysterious” when referencing the strained oblique (now stress fracture in rib).

      Mike & the Mad Dog did apologize on the air for the speculation which is a good thing, so kudos to them.

      • JT

        Pete Abe sure is a character. I called him out on what i believe to be an agenda against Girardi. There was these comments going around that Pete is upset because Girardi’s “lying” makes the job harder for him. I couldn’t resist, so I made a joke about how he’s mad because now he might not make it to the buffet in time before the kitchen closes. Unfortunately he blocked my comment and banned my IP from commenting. lol

        • http://www.myspace.com/j_panama Jamal G.

          Fucking classic man.

          • JT

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            • RustyJohn

              Yeah I don’t know what some of his posts are all about on the blog- he makes comments that Girardi is hostile, hiding things or testy with the media and then encloses clips of the interviews and I don’t get the impression of someone angry at all, just someone who is animated. Maybe they got too used to comatose Joe T. for all those years that whenever anyone gets emotional it is interpreted as anger.

        • ceciguante

          LOL. as if girardi’s job is to give pete abe (or any reporter) what he wants. hell, if i were a member of a MLB club, i’d prolly have choked a member of the media by now. i can’t imagine how these guys stay cool when they answer a question and then get it 4 more times because their first answer wasn’t sensational enough.

  • stuart

    IS Giambi’s BABIP so low because he only hits the ball to 1/3 the field?????

    • Chip

      It’s normally somewhat lower because of that shift but not .116 low. Plus the fact that he’s incredibly slow. I still just think he needs to learn to hit the ball the other way, if he can’t do that then he’s done.

      • Yankee1010

        I’m not holding my breath on that one.

  • Chip

    Yeah I’ve actually heard of this happening before in pitchers. Initially it’s just a pain but if keeps getting worse and worse

  • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    I bet the Giants wish Zito had a fractured rib. At least that would explain why he’s pitching like crap.

    • http://www.myspace.com/j_panama Jamal G.

      I bet the Giants wish someone forged Zito’s signature on that 7 year, $126 million contract.

  • http://www.myspace.com/j_panama Jamal G.

    Even better news, Yankees’ minor league southpaw Angel Reyes has been suspended by the Commissioner’s Office of Baseball for 50 games due to PED use.


    • http://riveraveblues.com JimT

      He will fit right in if he ever makes the show.

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Reyes sucks anyway.

  • http://www.myspace.com/j_panama Jamal G.

    BTW, does anybody think that whole mechanical report that came out about Phil Hughes that led to his early drop in velocity had anything to due with this injury? We all know when a pitcher’s mechanics are out of whack, even to a slightest degree, it can lead to injuries. Now I am just asking because I have no idea about pitching mechanics for I am a OF/2B but I always hear of a slightest mechanical issue leading to injuries.

    Also some injuries can not be felt for awhile and Brian Cashman’s press conference revealed that Phil Hughes nor the Yankees know how and when the injury occured. That is scary in its own right.

    • pete c.

      Jamal, I only know that any repetitive motion if done incorrectly places increased stress on the body. When your 200 lbs. of pissed off fury throwing a ball as hard as you can, keep landing on your front foot wrong all the time , some little thing ,it almost becomes one of those high rises that get taken down by strategically placed explosives. Should we start worrying about Hughes being injury prone?

  • Mike R.

    This is a message to the whole team. Girardi means business. Live up to your potential or he’s braking something.

    Seriously though I hope this is only 4 weeks and doesn’t interfere with him reaching his IP goal. It could even be a blessing in disguise if it allows him to pitch through October.

    • http://www.myspace.com/j_panama Jamal G.

      Brian Cashman is speculating a July 1st return. He will not do any throwing four 4 weeks and not until then will they reevaluate the injury and see where they go from there. So July 1st seems like the first marker we have as of now for Phil Hughes’ return. Ugh.

  • zack

    How in the heck can you break your rib pitching? Talk about stress and torque. And only 4 weeks? I somwehow doubt its that short…

    • http://www.myspace.com/j_panama Jamal G.

      4 weeks of not throwing, those weeks are just for healing purposes only. They do not include the rehab process which more than likely will include another 30 days.

      • JT

        It didn’t break completely. It’s a fracture so the rib didn’t disconnected at any point.

        • pete c.

          I fractured a rib once, after about a week it almost felt normal just walking around. But i couldn’t sleep on that side for about 2-3 weeks, and sneezing and coughing were adventures for about a month.

  • http://www.myspace.com/j_panama Jamal G.

    Ok, just found a link detailing Brian Cashman’s press conference. July 1st is a neighborhood return date.


  • YES

    I bet it came off the field. Probably didn’t happen on the field.

    • J.R.

      Does Phil own a Porsche? Thats my bet, oh wait…

  • Newman

    I know I’m going to be crucified for saying this, especially on this site…but is it too early to worry about Phil being injury prone? I mean, he just broke his rib by throwing a baseball, and this is the 2nd consecutive year that he will miss months of the season to injury, plus he’s had injury problems in the minors.

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Nah, part of the problem is that he’s still learning what is regular soreness and what is an actual injury. Most of the injuries were way overblown. He never broke his toe in 2004, he stubbed it in his hotel and the Yanks shut him down. He felt some soreness in his shoulder, and the Yanks shut him it down.

    • mustang

      I was thinking of the same thing, but I catch enough heat about Hughes on this site. LOL

  • Adrian-Retire21

    Keep Joba in the pen.You can’t replace him there.And how do we know he’s gonna pitch any better then what you can get in trade.

    • question mark

      the point in moving him to the rotation is to continue his development as a starter, not to get the best innings today, 5/1/08, at 6:20 PM.

      if anything, our confidence in our other young believers should be growing daily. i’m certainly liking what i see in Albalajedo and Ohlendorf.

  • zack

    Let’s see, about 5 starts per month and approx 6 IP per start has Hughes being able to get around 100 innings max after his return, which gives him only about 125 ML innings this season, combined with another maybe 30 in the minors, so still around 150 IP, which isn’t the end of the world, about what he was supposed to do anyways, no?

    That of course is a positive scenario, lets just hope this stupid thing heals fast

    • question mark

      then again, if anyone could use a reboot this year, it’s Phil Hughes…

      • zack

        Yeah, at this point, I don’t think a longer rehab period to perfect things would be the worst idea…

    • JT

      Can we count the innings from his rehab stint in AA and AAA? I read somewhere, that you can only count “major league” innings because its more stressful on the arm than “minor league” innings. bunch of baloney if you ask me.

      • http://www.myspace.com/j_panama Jamal G.

        Yes, you do count minor league innings. Hell, even college innings are taken into account when determining a college pitcher’s innings cap in his first professional season.

  • eli

    was at the game last night…in the 7th they flashed on the scoreboard “now warming in the yankees bullpen, carl pavano.” I nearly had a heart attack. Is this Cashman’s answer??

  • mustang

    Well that’s the end of the Hughes debate until he comes back. You can throw out just about everything in the last few weeks. LOL
    I don’t know how you can walk around with a crack rib and even thinking about pitching.
    I mean bruised, cracked or broke that shit hurts every time you take a step that’s coming from personal experience.
    Still you have to take the Yanks at their word and his control has been bad compare to last year.

    PS- I did LOVE to hear Mike and the Mad Dog eat crow.
    Can’t wait for the morning show. LOL

  • A-Point

    It takes 4 to 6 weeks for the fracture to heal, then you are only supposed to increase the same motion that caused the injury by 10% each week. July 1? I doubt it if the injury is real.

    Interesting that this injury is something that happens to golfers, and in one of the stadiums they played at there was a video game for golf that Hughes played. Could he have gotten it then?

    This injury is frequently due to lack of core strength – abdomial muscle strength.

    While this injury may be true, given the track record of what Girardi says and the Yankees say about injuries, I still remain sceptical about it.

  • Dylan

    Funniest headline ever, hahaha. Well done.

  • A.D.

    BRING UP McCUTCHEN, I don’t care about his start tonight

  • Joe

    This makes me wonder if the Yankees would be better off blowing up the “youngster” experiment this year, grabbing someone like Millwood while calling Rasner up, and giving Kennedy and Hughes more time in the minors. That way there’s no reason to rush Phil back, and he can work on a changeup or something in AAA for a while.

    I don’t know… I’m just starting to feel like this is way too much to be riding on the success of a 21 and 23-year old in their first full ML seasons. Kennedy is obviously not doing something right, and even if you chalk everything up to Phil’s injury (because we really don’t know what happened, I don’t think), he still needs time to get himself right. I don’t want to rush him without letting him develop like he has to and have another version of the Eric Duncan debacle. We have something special, let’s make sure it works out, no?

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