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		<title>By: mustang</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/06/building-a-winner-yankees-1990-1994-2957/#comment-89002</link>
		<dc:creator>mustang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; championship teams of the late ’90’s were made up of about 30% home grown talent and 70% free agents/trade. &quot;

I&#039;m so glad that someone finally made this point because I was looking at those championship teams the other day searching for that giant youth movement. I mean most of the key guys were either free agents or trades.
Excellent comments from start to end you can always tell that here when the first thing they do is attack you personally instead of your facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; championship teams of the late ’90’s were made up of about 30% home grown talent and 70% free agents/trade. &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad that someone finally made this point because I was looking at those championship teams the other day searching for that giant youth movement. I mean most of the key guys were either free agents or trades.<br />
Excellent comments from start to end you can always tell that here when the first thing they do is attack you personally instead of your facts.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet isn&#039;t the key &quot;scouting your own team&quot;? it seems that in the early 90&#039;s , the Yanks were very impressive in scouting their own young talent ( i.e trading Hitchcock instead of Pettite) and major league talent ( who was happy Stanley was let go in favor of Girardi at the time??) along with being lucky and good.

Its that confluence of events which cannot be replicated, because the same team of people who brought us the Pettite, Rivera Bernie Jeter drafts etc had previously AND subsequently failed miserably at drafting well or finding young talent worthy of a spot on the roster. This shows how hard it is to draft successfully, and the hurdles even quality picks have in making an impact on the major league roster.

Also, it seems that the Yanks have been unable to re-tool at midseason as they had in the past ( with the exception of Abreu a few years ago) because the wild card, revenue growth/sharing and parity have left fewer sellers in the market - gone are the days of Cone/Justice/Fielder/Neagle/Weaver/Hill/Polonia/Lloyd/ coming over in July to re-vamp the roster. 

While the Yanks did get a burst from Joba/Cano/Wang in the last few years, its basically impossible to get a front-line starter now from another team, where just a few years back it was an All-Star pitcher moving (Colon, 2x, Johnson etc to name a few) each summer, and the Yanks were in on all of them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet isn&#8217;t the key &#8220;scouting your own team&#8221;? it seems that in the early 90&#8242;s , the Yanks were very impressive in scouting their own young talent ( i.e trading Hitchcock instead of Pettite) and major league talent ( who was happy Stanley was let go in favor of Girardi at the time??) along with being lucky and good.</p>
<p>Its that confluence of events which cannot be replicated, because the same team of people who brought us the Pettite, Rivera Bernie Jeter drafts etc had previously AND subsequently failed miserably at drafting well or finding young talent worthy of a spot on the roster. This shows how hard it is to draft successfully, and the hurdles even quality picks have in making an impact on the major league roster.</p>
<p>Also, it seems that the Yanks have been unable to re-tool at midseason as they had in the past ( with the exception of Abreu a few years ago) because the wild card, revenue growth/sharing and parity have left fewer sellers in the market &#8211; gone are the days of Cone/Justice/Fielder/Neagle/Weaver/Hill/Polonia/Lloyd/ coming over in July to re-vamp the roster. </p>
<p>While the Yanks did get a burst from Joba/Cano/Wang in the last few years, its basically impossible to get a front-line starter now from another team, where just a few years back it was an All-Star pitcher moving (Colon, 2x, Johnson etc to name a few) each summer, and the Yanks were in on all of them!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph P.</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/06/building-a-winner-yankees-1990-1994-2957/#comment-88972</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t know what Hughes and Kennedy are going to be. You don&#039;t know what Alan Horne and Austin Jackson and Jose Tabata are going to be. Bernie and Mo weren&#039;t that good in the early going. It took them a while to become the greats they are/were. 

We at RAB also weren&#039;t dead set on &quot;rebuilding while winning.&quot; The three of us have constantly said that if we don&#039;t make the playoffs this year, no biggie. It&#039;s about amassing talent and figuring out what you can do with that talent. We thought it wiser to hold onto our young players than trade then for a $130 million contract. Two months of poor play doesn&#039;t change that stance, nor should it. Long term goals are not failures because we&#039;re losing in the short term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t know what Hughes and Kennedy are going to be. You don&#8217;t know what Alan Horne and Austin Jackson and Jose Tabata are going to be. Bernie and Mo weren&#8217;t that good in the early going. It took them a while to become the greats they are/were. </p>
<p>We at RAB also weren&#8217;t dead set on &#8220;rebuilding while winning.&#8221; The three of us have constantly said that if we don&#8217;t make the playoffs this year, no biggie. It&#8217;s about amassing talent and figuring out what you can do with that talent. We thought it wiser to hold onto our young players than trade then for a $130 million contract. Two months of poor play doesn&#8217;t change that stance, nor should it. Long term goals are not failures because we&#8217;re losing in the short term.</p>
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		<title>By: Geno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something about glass houses and stones...</description>
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		<title>By: brad k</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh. Who really cares? Your command of grammar is impressive. Too bad you couldn&#039;t offer any insightful and interesting commentary on the subject of baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh. Who really cares? Your command of grammar is impressive. Too bad you couldn&#8217;t offer any insightful and interesting commentary on the subject of baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: brad k</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said sell the farm. There is more than one way to skin that cat. considering that the championship teams of the late &#039;90&#039;s were made up of about 30% home grown talent and 70% free agents/trade. You don&#039;t rebuild with $200 million in payroll while your donating another $100 million in revenue and luxury tax money to your in division rivals like then Ray&#039;s. It&#039;s a bad plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said sell the farm. There is more than one way to skin that cat. considering that the championship teams of the late &#8217;90&#8242;s were made up of about 30% home grown talent and 70% free agents/trade. You don&#8217;t rebuild with $200 million in payroll while your donating another $100 million in revenue and luxury tax money to your in division rivals like then Ray&#8217;s. It&#8217;s a bad plan.</p>
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		<title>By: brad k</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explain.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBlueAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBlueAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its funny because one person in an earlier comment talked about who on the current Yankees team wouldve started for the dynasty Late 90&#039;s Yankees.  The fact is actually almost everybody from the regular lineup would!!!  Only Bernie and Tino (mostly due to his defense) were clearly better than the current Yankees at their positions.  When you consider the Yankees never had a true full-time LF/DH back then, any combo of Matsui/Damon/Abreu is WAY better than guys like Ledee, Curtis, Spencer and the older versions of Chilli and Straw.  Although id take Justice in 2000 over any of the current outfielders if anything because he played pretty good D in LF to go along with his power/patience.  


The main point is how HORRIBLE the current pitching staff is compared to the champion Yanks of that time.  Its laughable.  Mo is obviously the same, but besides him, there is not 1 other member of this current disgrace of a bullpen who would come close to making the bullpen back then, especially from the 1998 season.  Except for Wang, who might be the 5th starter on that group (but certainly 3rd or 4th from 2000 on), the older versions of Moose and Pettitte plus Rasner, please.  The rotation in 1998-1999 was great, hell the rotation in 2003, though old, mightve been even better.  


Ive written earlier about this since those teams i consider part of my golden era (high-school to beginning of college, which i never finished, but thats another story!!) and to me nobody will ever stack up to them, but the fact is the main differences have clearly been the pitching, and ill be totally honest, ALOT of good/bad luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its funny because one person in an earlier comment talked about who on the current Yankees team wouldve started for the dynasty Late 90&#8242;s Yankees.  The fact is actually almost everybody from the regular lineup would!!!  Only Bernie and Tino (mostly due to his defense) were clearly better than the current Yankees at their positions.  When you consider the Yankees never had a true full-time LF/DH back then, any combo of Matsui/Damon/Abreu is WAY better than guys like Ledee, Curtis, Spencer and the older versions of Chilli and Straw.  Although id take Justice in 2000 over any of the current outfielders if anything because he played pretty good D in LF to go along with his power/patience.  </p>
<p>The main point is how HORRIBLE the current pitching staff is compared to the champion Yanks of that time.  Its laughable.  Mo is obviously the same, but besides him, there is not 1 other member of this current disgrace of a bullpen who would come close to making the bullpen back then, especially from the 1998 season.  Except for Wang, who might be the 5th starter on that group (but certainly 3rd or 4th from 2000 on), the older versions of Moose and Pettitte plus Rasner, please.  The rotation in 1998-1999 was great, hell the rotation in 2003, though old, mightve been even better.  </p>
<p>Ive written earlier about this since those teams i consider part of my golden era (high-school to beginning of college, which i never finished, but thats another story!!) and to me nobody will ever stack up to them, but the fact is the main differences have clearly been the pitching, and ill be totally honest, ALOT of good/bad luck.</p>
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		<title>By: question mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>question mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve often made the comparison between the two eras.  Both were coming off of a period of ridiculous, bloated Yankee teams getting too old, too expensive, and not producing.

I also agree our cupboard was a bit more bare in the 90&#039;s than it is now.

Don&#039;t panic, folks.  Like the only good thing to come out of Boston once said, &quot;life&#039;s a journey.  not a destination.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve often made the comparison between the two eras.  Both were coming off of a period of ridiculous, bloated Yankee teams getting too old, too expensive, and not producing.</p>
<p>I also agree our cupboard was a bit more bare in the 90&#8242;s than it is now.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t panic, folks.  Like the only good thing to come out of Boston once said, &#8220;life&#8217;s a journey.  not a destination.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re absolutely right. We should abandon the farm in favor of proven team players and winners like J.D. Drew and Andruw Jones.

I urge you to take a look at the early careers of Rivera, Posada and Bernie before telling us what&#039;s in store for Hughes and the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right. We should abandon the farm in favor of proven team players and winners like J.D. Drew and Andruw Jones.</p>
<p>I urge you to take a look at the early careers of Rivera, Posada and Bernie before telling us what&#8217;s in store for Hughes and the others.</p>
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