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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/06/scheduling-gurus-rain-out-3-1-yankee-lead-3164/#comment-101921</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at that rained out Pirates/Yankees fiasco.  Lemme offer a different point of view for yous New Yorkers.

Most of the 39,000 people (sellout with standing room only) sat or stood through the 2-and-a-half hour delay.  We paid prices above normal for those tickets which were gone by Opening Day.

We waited for the storms to pass and they did after about an hour (a little less, actually).  It waned to a barely noticeable drizzle then quit altogether with one brief shower (about two minutes in length).  The field drained well.  About an hour into the delay, the tarps could have been removed.  They were not.

We continued to sit, watching highlights of the 1960&#039;s Yankees/Pirates World Series.

And sat...

And sat...

Finally, with no rain in the air, no thunder, no lightning, no players to be seen (through the entire duration), the game was called.  We were told it was because the National Weather Service said more storms were in the offing. 

Those storms never arrived.

39,000 went home utterly disappointed.  The rubber game between the greatest team in baseball and our lowly Pirates washed out.

It wasn&#039;t until the next morning that I pieced together what happened.  Undoubtedly, the Yanks were on the plane before the fans were out of the ball park.

The decision was a lie.  The real reason that game was called is because the Yankees had to play the next day at 2:00.  I have no doubt in my mind that the game would not have been made up if the Pirates had negotiated that.  I&#039;m sure the negotiations went something like this:

Yankees:  &quot;Hell, we&#039;ve got a game at 2:00 tomorrow.  (And why in the world would we need this game with you, the lowly Pirates.)

Pirates:  &quot;Okay, we&#039;ll call it as long as you come back.  (We can sell most of those seats a second time.)&quot;

Together:  Deal!

Pirates officials talking it over with umps.  &quot;Okay, we need to hold off calling this for another hour or so so that more rain may fall and give us cover.&quot;

Ump:  &quot;And what if it doesn&#039;t fall?&quot;

Pirates, Yankees, everyone:  &quot;Screw the fans.  We&#039;re Major Leaguers.&quot;

Am I mad?  You bet I am.  I drove all the way from Indiana to watch that game.  So don&#039;t come crying to me about your poor prima donas missing some sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at that rained out Pirates/Yankees fiasco.  Lemme offer a different point of view for yous New Yorkers.</p>
<p>Most of the 39,000 people (sellout with standing room only) sat or stood through the 2-and-a-half hour delay.  We paid prices above normal for those tickets which were gone by Opening Day.</p>
<p>We waited for the storms to pass and they did after about an hour (a little less, actually).  It waned to a barely noticeable drizzle then quit altogether with one brief shower (about two minutes in length).  The field drained well.  About an hour into the delay, the tarps could have been removed.  They were not.</p>
<p>We continued to sit, watching highlights of the 1960&#8242;s Yankees/Pirates World Series.</p>
<p>And sat&#8230;</p>
<p>And sat&#8230;</p>
<p>Finally, with no rain in the air, no thunder, no lightning, no players to be seen (through the entire duration), the game was called.  We were told it was because the National Weather Service said more storms were in the offing. </p>
<p>Those storms never arrived.</p>
<p>39,000 went home utterly disappointed.  The rubber game between the greatest team in baseball and our lowly Pirates washed out.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until the next morning that I pieced together what happened.  Undoubtedly, the Yanks were on the plane before the fans were out of the ball park.</p>
<p>The decision was a lie.  The real reason that game was called is because the Yankees had to play the next day at 2:00.  I have no doubt in my mind that the game would not have been made up if the Pirates had negotiated that.  I&#8217;m sure the negotiations went something like this:</p>
<p>Yankees:  &#8220;Hell, we&#8217;ve got a game at 2:00 tomorrow.  (And why in the world would we need this game with you, the lowly Pirates.)</p>
<p>Pirates:  &#8220;Okay, we&#8217;ll call it as long as you come back.  (We can sell most of those seats a second time.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Together:  Deal!</p>
<p>Pirates officials talking it over with umps.  &#8220;Okay, we need to hold off calling this for another hour or so so that more rain may fall and give us cover.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ump:  &#8220;And what if it doesn&#8217;t fall?&#8221;</p>
<p>Pirates, Yankees, everyone:  &#8220;Screw the fans.  We&#8217;re Major Leaguers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Am I mad?  You bet I am.  I drove all the way from Indiana to watch that game.  So don&#8217;t come crying to me about your poor prima donas missing some sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/06/scheduling-gurus-rain-out-3-1-yankee-lead-3164/#comment-100959</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strikes me that there is an obvious solution to the problem the Yankees face when it comes to scheduling on the getaway day. As far as I know (correct me if I am wrong) but it is mostly up to the home team to schedule the start time (unless its nationally televised). 

The solution is a cold war era step toward adopting mutually assured desctruction (MAD). If opposing teams don&#039;t make the final game of a series a day game (like they do for other teams) the Yankees should schedule the last game of the series at night and force smaller market opponents (root of the problem) to live like they do when on the road. Because if they can use the money rationale, why can&#039;t we... every team needs more money. ;-)

Imagine if teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs et al (big away drawing teams) started acting like the rest of the smaller market teams... things would change because players would get fed up with it. MLB, owners and MLBPA would have to sit down and adress it at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strikes me that there is an obvious solution to the problem the Yankees face when it comes to scheduling on the getaway day. As far as I know (correct me if I am wrong) but it is mostly up to the home team to schedule the start time (unless its nationally televised). </p>
<p>The solution is a cold war era step toward adopting mutually assured desctruction (MAD). If opposing teams don&#8217;t make the final game of a series a day game (like they do for other teams) the Yankees should schedule the last game of the series at night and force smaller market opponents (root of the problem) to live like they do when on the road. Because if they can use the money rationale, why can&#8217;t we&#8230; every team needs more money. <img src='http://riveraveblues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Imagine if teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs et al (big away drawing teams) started acting like the rest of the smaller market teams&#8230; things would change because players would get fed up with it. MLB, owners and MLBPA would have to sit down and adress it at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/06/scheduling-gurus-rain-out-3-1-yankee-lead-3164/#comment-100940</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any reason why Ponson did not start the game we knew would be rain-delayed and save Moose for the Mets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any reason why Ponson did not start the game we knew would be rain-delayed and save Moose for the Mets</p>
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		<title>By: Ben C</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/06/scheduling-gurus-rain-out-3-1-yankee-lead-3164/#comment-100928</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea but it&#039;s a bigger deal for NL teams because they don&#039;t see the Yankees every year like AL teams do. So, when the Yankees go to Pittsburgh for the first time in 30 years, it&#039;s a bigger deal then when the Yankees go to Kansas City for the second time that year and Pittsburgh probably draws better then Kansas City does (though KC draws very well when the Yankees visit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea but it&#8217;s a bigger deal for NL teams because they don&#8217;t see the Yankees every year like AL teams do. So, when the Yankees go to Pittsburgh for the first time in 30 years, it&#8217;s a bigger deal then when the Yankees go to Kansas City for the second time that year and Pittsburgh probably draws better then Kansas City does (though KC draws very well when the Yankees visit).</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/06/scheduling-gurus-rain-out-3-1-yankee-lead-3164/#comment-100925</link>
		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you cant say they are the same age and equate age to development level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you cant say they are the same age and equate age to development level.</p>
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		<title>By: steve (different one)</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/06/scheduling-gurus-rain-out-3-1-yankee-lead-3164/#comment-100912</link>
		<dc:creator>steve (different one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The bottom line is most fans want interleague play (since they show up for the games) so it’s not going anywhere.&lt;/i&gt;

do the fans want interleague play, or do they simply want to see the Yankees?

does attendance spike when the Marlins play the Rays?  

the Yankees are a draw wherever they go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The bottom line is most fans want interleague play (since they show up for the games) so it’s not going anywhere.</i></p>
<p>do the fans want interleague play, or do they simply want to see the Yankees?</p>
<p>does attendance spike when the Marlins play the Rays?  </p>
<p>the Yankees are a draw wherever they go.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/06/scheduling-gurus-rain-out-3-1-yankee-lead-3164/#comment-100910</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have one common off day the rest of the season: Sept 11. The Yankees are returning from a road trip and the Mets are on a home stand.  The problem is playing that day would give the Yanks games on 27 straight days, which is a violation of the collective bargaining agreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have one common off day the rest of the season: Sept 11. The Yankees are returning from a road trip and the Mets are on a home stand.  The problem is playing that day would give the Yanks games on 27 straight days, which is a violation of the collective bargaining agreement.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He has a major league contract, so there is some incentive to bring him up quickly.  Also, he&#039;s the same age as Joba, so expecting big things within the next 2-3 years is not that ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has a major league contract, so there is some incentive to bring him up quickly.  Also, he&#8217;s the same age as Joba, so expecting big things within the next 2-3 years is not that ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From 2005-2007, Hardin started 19, 9, and 4 games, respectively. Granted, there are projectability issues with Brackman, but I am willing to withstand that risk given his upside, especially when you factor in Hardin&#039;s demonstrated fragility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From 2005-2007, Hardin started 19, 9, and 4 games, respectively. Granted, there are projectability issues with Brackman, but I am willing to withstand that risk given his upside, especially when you factor in Hardin&#8217;s demonstrated fragility.</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it was last year where Colorado begged MLB to have the yankees play a series there last season, so they swapped the Yankees interleague sched to play Colorado last year and SD this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it was last year where Colorado begged MLB to have the yankees play a series there last season, so they swapped the Yankees interleague sched to play Colorado last year and SD this year.</p>
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