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30
06
2008
Why isn’t a bigger deal being made of this?
Posted by: Mike A. in Asides. Tagged: Horrendously RetardedShawn Chacon throws his GM to the ground, and gets released without pay. Manny Ramirez pushes a club official to the ground, and it’s just Manny being Manny. I fully understand the difference in status between the two players, but that shouldn’t matter when you physically assault someone. What if you or I pushed someone at work to the ground like that? What a bunch of crap.
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Someone please shave that morons hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was over tickets. It’s pointless for this to be made bigger than it is. Yankees suck. Stop bitching trying to bring the Red Sox and their players down.
it was over tickets, so everyone should look the other way? i bet you’re no professor, fella.
suspension without pay should be mandatory from the team, if not the league.
As a Sox fan, I don’t condone the action but these are grown men; fire an assault charge if you think you’ve been wronged and disagree with the penalty.
Didn’t Reggie Jackson do something similar over a uniform #?
One of the men is 67 years old, the other in his 30’s.
One is very strong the other not.
So you condone throw old men to the ground.
Do you step on baby chicks as well?
Or throw puppies off a cliff?
Exactly. It’s over tickets. Manny Ramirez physically assaulted someone because he wasn’t getting enough free stuff. Here’s a crazy idea–buy your own tickets, Manny. I’m not excusing Chacon and am glad he’s cut but to me I can more understand a guy being that angry when the manager and GM are trying to confront you about their decision to put you in the pen than I can pushing a secretary because your unreasonable prima donna demands aren’t being met.
Exactly. Chacon was way out of line as well, but his actions now look pretty explainable compared to Manny’s.
Not even a fine? Please.
When are the excuses for this moron’s behavior going to stop?
When are the excuses for the Yankees’ horrible playing despite a $200 million payroll going to stop?
When are the excuses for everybody hating on the Yankees out of sheer jealousy and trying to pretend that it’s out of “fiscal irresponsibility” going to stop?
There is no excuse for the Yankees performance with a $200 Million pay roll, and most rational fans will agree with that… when are you going to get over the money thing and actually deal with the reality of what’s going on? Cripes you’d think it’s still been 90 years with all the whining of Red Sox Nation… come up with a new argument, and face the music when it comes to your own ridiculous ball club.
Hey Manny, how about taking a crap in the green monster this time! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ahhhhh well said Andrew . Spoken like a true saux fan .
Just Manny being Manny. I suppose Youk was asking for it as well?
Very odd that Manny has 2 incidents in one year, when he seems to be a fun loving guy without a care in the world.
I would have never even known had I not checked this site….typical media.
Must be something in the water in Houston.
roid raid.
The guy is an imbecile, always has been. It will be great watching Boston having to eat 20 million a year for someone who can’t play rudimentary defense- his schtick will wear thin in 2010 when he is hitting .220- then he can see all those lovable racist Boston fans abandon him in droves.
His contract expires at the end of this year, with team options for the next two. Unfortunately, if the Red Sox decide he’s done, they can get rid of him without a second thought.
Hey, Manny and Ortiz are the only two guys on that team I’d love to see in pinstripes. For all the crap Manny brings with him, if we’re talking about possibly bringing in Barry Bonds here, if Manny becomes available (which he won’t), I’d say it’s open season on Shawn Chacon pt. 2.
umm… UGH
Manny’s defense is bad, but Jeter was determined by UPenn to have been the worst defensive SS in all of baseball from 2004-2006. And he was the second worst last year, behind only Hanley Ramirez. For all of Jeter’s leadership, he was unable to swallow his pride and move to third to allow a better defensive SS in ARod take his place and give his team a better chance to win.
Well, also consider that Manny pushed a club official, while Chacon pushed the GM. Things probably would have been different if Manny had clobbered Theo.
Doubt it
Yes. Things also might have been different if the really good version of Roy Oswalt beat up Wade instead of Chacon, who stinks.
I doubt they would have been so quick to release a good pitcher, or a pitcher they owed a ton of money to.
I thought Houston was planning on sending Chacon to the bullpen, and that was part of what started that altercation. No team has a use for a mediocre long reliever with an attitude problem. As for a HOF left fielder or ace pitcher with an attitude problem… well they always seem to find room for those types of guys.
The fact that Manny clobbered some poor schmuck instead of Theo makes it even more asinine. Throw down McCormick = impunity. Throw down Theo = at least a fine and/or suspension. Manny may pretend to be an imbecile but he’s not retarded.
The difference is that Manny is very good and Chacon isn’t. That’s about it. Now, I think Andrew is probably right that there would be a greater punishment if Theo were the victim, but that just points to how messed up the power dynamic is in this industry and in most businesses. That club official has every right to feel safe at his job. That’s the least you can expect from your bosses. Manny violated that. Are the officials’ bosses acknowledging that the work place they set up is not safe for him by not punishing Manny? Doesn’t seem so. It would take Manny pushing Theo for them to maybe understand that first-hand.
Theo would be protected from injury by his gorilla suit.
Critics will be quick to point out that while Shawn Chacon and Manny Ramirez were both involved in physical altercations last week, the press seems to have given Manny a pass. However, insiders report that the reason Manny was so upset with Red Sox traveling secretary Jack McCormick was because McCormick was unable to get 16 tickets to the Astros-Sox Saturday afternoon game, tickets that Manny had planned to give to the 16 Rwandan and Yugoslavian nuns and infant refugees (who were tragically stricken with polio, cancer, AIDS, Lou Gehrig’s Disease, vaccine-resistant tuberculosis, lupus, and shingles) that his new Foundation, The Manny Ramirez Foundation To Cure All Diseases, was to host that day.
Manny’s plan was to heal all the sick with his tears (which cure disease) and use the proceeds from the impromptu telethon broadcasting the healing to fund the new Manny Ramirez World Peacekeeping Militia, an army ready to deploy at a moments notice to end the conflict in Darfur. Sadly, since McCormick couldn’t get the tickets, the whole thing had to be called off, and the nuns and refugees all died.
For Diamond Cutters, I’m Peter Gammons, ESPN.
Now get your mute buttons ready, here’s REO Speedwagon’s version of Take Me Out to the Ballgame!
They get information out of suspected terrorists in Guantanamo by playing Peter Gammons and Bronson Arroyo’s albums over and over again….4 out of 5 detainees said they preferred having cigarettes put out on their testicles over Gammons’ cover of Warren Zevon.
This is comedic genius. You should work for the onion.
incredible.
Manny was pissed that the Yankees hadn’t called up Brett Gardner yet.
Just kidding.
Same thought crossed my mind. This guy is GOLD Smitt! GOLD!
Why do they call it “Ovaltine?” The jar is round… the mug is round… They should call it “Roundtine!”
>> …tickets that Manny had planned to give to the 16 Rwandan… >>
You had me right up to here. LOL.
I want ARod to push Susan Waldmen to the floor and see how much fuss is made about that.
she’d prob start crying again.
no she woulnt she’d start waxing poetic on how he’s oen of the greatest shovers of all time and his technique for shoving is unparalleled.
Unparalled unless the shove was done in a “Jeterian” fashion.
touche. and i have an english degree…yikes
Manny Ramirez is and always will be one of the biggest d-bags to ever put on a baseball uniform. I know the hall doesn’t elect people for their personalities but if he gets the call I will go to his induction just to boo. His attitude, arrogance, antics and (need to find another a-word…which one should I choose? I’ll leave that for you to decide) make him impossible to root for. As much as I loathe the Red Sox, I love a player like David Ortiz because of his heart, enthusiasm and respect. He plays with class. I would personally rather see Barry Bonds and the traveling winstrol circus get into the Hall than Manny. It’s complete B.S. that he doesn’t face some kind of discipline for his actions. If I punched a co-worker, my ass is on the street and possibly in court. I hate everything Manny is and stands for, thus him being himself drives me completely up the wall.
As a Knicks fan, I hated Jordan. Had the Knicks drafted or acquired Jordan, I would have LOVED Jordan.
As a Jets fan, I hate Tom Brady. Had the Jets drafted or acquired Brady, I would LOVE Brady.
If you are a member of one of the teams I love, and you produce for us, all sins are forgiven. And Manny is easily one of the 10 best right-handed hitters in baseball history. (Ortiz is probably a creation of Fenway Park and Deca-Durabolin, but that’s another story…)
Just like Pedro and Beckett, I tip my caps to the Sox for getting him, poke fun at him every chance I get, but would have loved to watch him dominate for the Yanks…
manny ramirez is washed up. checkout greatseatsltd.com!
i will have to laugh next year if the Sox decline Manny’s option and he is willing to DH in the Bronx…
Manny would never go to the Yanks. He would never cut his hair. All this talk about shoving people just reminds me of Pedro flooring Don Zimmerman. Which is by far one the greatest things I have ever seen on a ball field.
The difference? Manny shoved a man, Chacon wrestled one to the ground and choked him with both hands while on top of him.
Seems to me like a pretty big difference.
People say Manny gets unfair treatment because of his status, but lets not jump all over this for the same reason. These incidents were not equal and do not receive equal treatment.
Lets not forget Manny pushing Youkilis. When is enough going to be enough? That’s two incidents already before the All-Star break. Manny isn’t above the Red Sox organization nor MLB and should be put in his place.
Chacon wrestled one to the ground and choked him with both hands while on top of him.
source?
However, (and it’s asinine to be arguing over which mid-30’s, physically ripped professional athlete was more in the wrong for assaulting a man in his 60’s)…
Chacon wrestled to the ground and choked his boss who was demoting him and who was yelling and cursing at him in an incident that the Rocky Mountain News described as one where both Wade and Chacon were to blame and where they say that Wade is “supposed to be the leader of the franchise and has a responsibility to owners to handle his job with dignity, which doesn’t include profanity-filled shouting matches with players.”
Manny, meanwhile, shoved to the floor a team underling who did nothing to provoke Manny other than failing to get him a hook-up on some free tickets in an incident that McCormick said “escalated on [Manny's] part.”
Both of them took a guy old enough to be their father and shoved him to the ground. Chacon’s incident is worse, because he then proceeded to climb on top of his victim and try to fuck him up some more, while Manny was instantly restrained before anything else could happen (which didn’t happen to Chacon) and subsequently apologized (albeit likely under direction of management). But Chacon was provoked by a guy who is admittedly a bit of an asshole (read the rest of the stories about the Houston clubhouse… nobody likes Ed Wade), and Manny wasn’t provoked by shit, other than his own stratospherically large ego and sense of personal entitlement. He was acting like Tommy Devito shooting Spider in the foot for not bringing his drink fast enough.
He’s a douche.
How is any of this different than Cashman smoking ARod’s pole after he threatened to leave?
Speaking of smoking pole, what’s Schilling up to these days?
smoking pole in a shoulder sling
You mean A-Rod begging to come back to the Yankees because no one else would give him even close to the money he wanted?
just so you all know, they said on mike and the dog(or i guess ‘the dog show’) that gardner’s playing LF and batting lead-off
That’s awesome, did they say anything on Damon’s injury status?
They didn’t say anything…not saying that there’s nothing, just that they didn’t say anything. Also, they said that Christian was sent down.