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Follow us on TwitterBuster Olney reports that Richie Sexson and the Yankees are a good fit have reached a tentative deal. The righty, released last week by Seattle, will get paid the pro-rated minimum by the Yanks and could be in the lineup on Saturday when the Yanks face A’s lefty Greg Smith.
The Mariners had let Sexson go over concerns surrounding his attitude and his .218/.315/.381 offensive line in 292 plate appearances this year. But the Yanks’ view Sexson’s right-handed bat as a balancing force in a lineup that has struggled against southpaws this year. In 71 plate appearances against lefties, Sexson is hitting .344/.423/.623 this year. And if Sexson doesn’t stick in New York, it’s only money.
I guess they have given up on Shelly. He is a career AAAA guy anyway.
He’s injured anyway. Out for the season.
Plus, I’d take Sexson’s bat over Shelley Duncan’s any day.
Wow…. that’s a change of heart a few weeks back you said the last thing the Yankees needed was a 32 year old that can’t hit clogging up the bench.
People are allowed to change their minds.
And I never said anything about clogging up the bases. If he were actually on base to clog up the bases, I’d be happy. But with that .315 OBP, he’s actually clogging up the scoreboard with outs.
I said bench not bases. The only reason I said anything was because I brought up this same scenario a month ago and you shot me down.
You’re right people can change their minds.
Want to change your mind on Nady?
LOL
No. You’re missing the point re: Sexson v. Nady.
Richie Sexson costs the Yanks nothing more than, at most, $200,000. They don’t have to give up prospects; they don’t have to do anything. And Richie Sexson sucks. They’re not expecting anything.
Xavier Nady, on the other hand, is the classic “sell high” guy for the Pirates. He’s had a career half-season, and I’m sure the Pirates are asking a lot for him. So instead of paying a few hundred thousand - pocket change for the Yanks - they’d have to give up some good young players, and then they’d be screwed when Nady comes back to New York and regresses to his usual average levels of production. There’s no way a Xavier Nady deal this year will ever make sense.
I wasn’t comparing the two I meant just Nady.
I disagree with you on Nady I see a guy who has played in NY who numbers have gotten better over the last few years playing in a ballpark similar to Yankees Stadium. And if the price is right which will probably go down closer to the deadline they should do it. It will cost them a lot less than Holliday and Bay (# vs. lefties this year ouch!).
“who numbers have gotten better over the last few years”
Actually, his OPS+ (park adjusted OPS) has stayed stable at around 108 until the first half of this season.
So, he’s a bit above average and likely to return to that form. That’s a more realistic assessment of the player…he is who he’s been for the last several years, not the guy he’s been for the last couple months.
Ok you maybe right, but when you factor in cost and the fact that Nady kills lefties while someone like Bay has not hit lefties well since 2006 I still say it’s the better move.
We see good point anyway.
We will see….
someone else would cost next to nothing and .480 OBP is what will help this team score runs.
who cares about PR - ths s about winning and you know who s the best chance ths team has to make the playoffs
Guys here some food for thought. I don’t believe that the Sexson deal will be the only deal the Yankees make. I see some people on here calling for the Yankees to sign Bonds. I’m not sure if I am in favor of that because I don’t like Bonds but he won’t cost us any prospects and might give our offense a boost. Not sure if these rumors are true but it might be worth to keep looking into it.
http://www.mlbnewsonline.com/2.....-with.html
We really need to stop giving any credence to these rumors until they’re substantiated. Everyone involved has denied them, and the sourcing is a blog that, before today, was getting fewer than 300 page views per day. It’s a publicity stunt, and while it’s working, it does more harm to the blogger cause than good.
There’s a blogger cause? Do you have a credo?
Look up in the stands! Is it a journalist? A fan? No! It’s Blog Man! Faster than a daily paper, more powerful than a casual fan, it’s Blog Man to the rescue!
He’s on the shelf for quite a bit with a shoulder injury.
Dave Duncan is the only person on the planet who hasn’t given up on Shelly.
maybe Sandy Duncan too, but she has a glass eye.
Maybe Sexson can be to us like Ortiz was to the red sox in 2003? Hey, you never know? And if not, they could always just let him go. Not like they are paying a ton of money for him or traded away some prospects for him.
Bronx Banter is “reporting” a rumor that the Yanks are in negotiations with Bonds. Maybe this second half will be interesting after all.
We’ve only commented on that very unsubstantiated rumor in this thread. There’s absolutely nothing to suggest that a fairly obscure blog has this story nailed, and in fact, Brian Cashman was on the radio this morning emphatically denying interest in Bonds.
That is true. But Cashman had also said that Bubba Crosby was our centerfielder and then went out and signed Damon. So I don’t believe anything until it happens!
That article didn’t seem very genuine. I’d actually like the team to sign Bonds, because we need a hitter and I don’t want to give up prospects. That being said, they aren’t signing him and I think they’ve made that pretty clear.
They signed Sexson and I think going forward he and Gardner are going to be asked to help out the offense until Johnny gets back.
So what does this mean for any other potential moves ? Not so excited about this one but hopefully Mr. Sexon proves me wrong
“So what does this mean for any other potential moves ?”
Nothing much, probably. If they were thinking about looking to upgrade in RF, this has no impact. If they were thinking about looking to upgrade in CF, the bench, or the rotation…no impact. All this does it take ABs away from Betemit hitting righty.
I’d rather bring aboard Bonds, Sexson is horrible.
“In 71 plate appearances against lefties, Sexson is hitting .344/.423/.623 this year.”
Yeah, that is TERRIBLE. Betemit has been hitting SO MUCH better than that as our right-handed first baseman.
It’s too small a sample size, but there’s no doubt that the Yanks should give him a shot.
he’s a career .265 hitter against LHP, from what i found. he’s got a good career slugging percentage, but you have to assume he will regress to his averages when provided more opportunity and a larger sample size, no?
for me, i dont think he’s gonna help much at all, but at least Cashman is trying something. and if he fails, you cut him and move on. he certainly wont be any worse than Betemit, but i dont know how much better he’s gonna be either.
but again, i really dont care for this “throw sh*t against the wall to see if it sticks” method.
“but again, i really dont care for this “throw sh*t against the wall to see if it sticks” method.”
It makes more sense than “spend a bunch to upgrade a team with no shot at a title anyway”
Actually, no matter what our long term strategy is — building from within the farm system with youth; making blockbuster trades for big talent; spending lavishly on free agents; having a fire sale to restock the talent — we should ALWAYS use the “throw shit against the wall to see if it sticks” method. Worst case scenario, you’re right where you started off with; best case scenario, you’ve plugged a hole or upgraded an option.
There is virtually no downside to moves like kicking a few bucks towards the Richie Sexsons, Sidney Ponsons, Eric Miltons, Al Aceveses, Shawn Chacons, Aaron Smalls, Josh Phelpses, Jim Browerses, or (dare I say it?) Reggie Stockers of the world, other than spending a few meaningless bucks here and there and giving someone a few starts at Scranton to see if there’s lightning in their bottles. Even if we had everyone healthy and no major holes, we should be looking under every rock to find a better backup utility infielder or spot-starting long man.
It’s called low-hanging fruit for a reason.
exactly. it’s kindof funny to hear people rip this move after ripping Cashman for not taking a flyer on Colon.
Don’t worry, they’ll be back… when Tony Clark hits a homer for the D-Bags next week, they’ll rip on Cash for not signing him instead.
this is where i think we just disagree. this team is good enough to advance into the playoffs if they get there.
you move prospects, but be smart about it. get a guy you can control for a year or two, minimum, so you arent moving valuable pieces simply on a 3 month rental.
this team can win this year. most of us here thought that at the beginning of the year, and after watching the AL teams currently battling for the Wild Card for the first 95 games, the Yankees are just as good as they are, and those teams have flaws just like the yankees do.
“this is where i think we just disagree. this team is good enough to advance into the playoffs if they get there. ”
They certainly haven’t played that way. There are multiple pieces of the team that are underperforming and showing no real signs of snapping out of it.
They weren’t playing that way a year ago either. But I bet you were pretty confident heading into the playoffs against the Indians
what are these multiple pieces?
back of rotation? and Abreu/Cano/Posada?
What if the short porch in right has the same effect on Sexson as the wall in Boston had on Ortiz. I just hope he can put up a sem-respectable line so we don’t see Betemit starting everyday
And Giambi, who will likely be replaced in the line-up by Mr. Sexson, has a .903 OPS against lefties, as a lefty, in 104 PAs. This move is pointless because Sexson can’t play the OF.
Ideally, Giambi would DH and Sexson play first against lefties. No one is advocating sitting Giambi.
Right, but it’s a safe bet that Joe “OMG it’s a lefty” Girardi will use Sexson at the expense of Giambi. Not all the time but sometimes. And sometimes is too often.
I could him playing Sexson at 1B, Posada at DH and Molina at C, or Betemit as DH and Posada at C.
Sexson should not cost Giambi AB’s, but I fear he will.
The “OMG Lefty” was already costing Giambi playing time….so there’s no reason to believe this would cost anymore
I agree, Girardi needs to stop with that Bs. Let’s sit all the productive players and keep melky in the game cause he’s a switch hitter…. um have you seen his numbers from the right side?
just sitting Betemit for 1st duty is highly advisable.
Exactly, Sexson would only be taking the AB’s that Giambi wasn’t getting in the first place, the ones that were going to Betemit (and the departed Matsui).
The most annoying thing about this is the continual moans from Yankee fans about how they should’ve signed Bonds not Sexson.
Yeah, because those Yankee fans are total fucking idiots for wanting to fill the mammoth hole in our lineup with a guy who’s OPS+ the last two years was 156 and 170 when Big Sexy’s 84 and 90 was a perfectly good alternative.
What stupid chowderheads those pro-Barry Bonds Yankee fans are.
Personally, I’m not keen on one of the biggest abominations in baseball of the last few decades joining the Yankee. I think the assumptions of him hitting well are very tenuous. He’s 44, hasn’t played in almost a year, and most of his success rode on NL pitchers handing him intentional walks (both official and unofficial) with nobody to protect him in one of the worst lineups in recent memory..
I very much doubt his production would help the Yankees significantly to offset the disgrace of allowing the asshole to play.
You know why he’s “one of the biggest abominations in baseball”?
Because we, the general public, have chosen to make him one of the biggest abominations in baseball. The main reason he’s a pariah is because we want him to be a pariah. It has very little to do with him and a lot to do with us.
I’m an adult. (Several of my juvenile stupid posts notwithstanding.) I know the steroid era was way bigger than Barry Bonds, and so all of my sorrow and shame and disgust about it does not have to reside solely within his personage. It’s not a simple, black and white (pardon the pun) issue. It’s not “Baseball is good and Barry Bonds is bad”.
And you may be right about the assumptions of him hitting well being tenuous… but you can say the same about all the FA options, like Sexson. I know that I have way more confidence in him hitting than I do in Sexson…
Because we, the general public, have chosen to make him one of the biggest abominations in baseball. The main reason he’s a pariah is because we want him to be a pariah.
And, you know, there’s the whole federal indictment thingee.
He’s more trouble than he’s worth, in my opinion.
Mike - He’s not due in court until March 2009.
He’s in the free and clear, legally, for all of 2008.
Bonds is not the only one who took steroids, but he is the most disgraced. He lied, cheated, and continues without remorse, without apology, and without redemption. He broke two of the best records in baseball and they now stand sullied. He is just a jerk. And before the inevitable “But Clemens did that too!”, I hate Clemens as well.
Sexson is a low-risk investment by definition. He is getting the minimum pro-rated. I don’t expect much, but you never know with his splits.
Reggie Jackson was a jerk too … ask the 1977 Yankees how the felt about winning the world series with him
You dont seriously think Bonds is bringing this anemic team to the world series. Can I get what your smoking?
I’m not asking him to bring us to the World Series. I’m asking him to hit the ball harder and more frequently than Melky Cabrera, Brett Gardner, Justin Christian, and the Ghost of Hideki Matsui.
I don’t think that’s a stretch.
you are right - we are stupid. what a bunch of idiots the offense s trugglng our LF s ou and damon cant stay healthy. under no crcumstances should we brng up the idea of bringing aboard, a guy wha can probably stll get on base to the tune of .450, knock out 20 homeruns n the scond chance and allow AROD to see a steady diet of nothng but fastballs.
hey there is a need + a soluton, but of course its a stupd idea
Ah, its been a while since the passing of the “good fit” epidemic.
I like the move, except that Sexson isn’t too good defensively. Mariner fans generally agreed in 2007 that Sexson’s defense was terrible (although they hate him as a hitter so there might be a little spill over).
http://tangotiger.net/scouting.....7_SEA.html
Bye, bye Moeller?
I want Bonds. Despite the concomitant media frenzy, A-Rod will love playing with him and the eventual passing of a once-pinstriped Bonds will have 2008 as a touchstone. I don’t believe a word of what Cashman’s saying. Bonds is coming to NY. Back when everyone said it would take Johnny and Hideki being injured, back when Bonds wasn’t a league-minimum guy, that was when it didn’t make sense. It’s a perfect Bonds storm, and I’m fine that it took all this to get there. I also think it could potentially diminish pressures on guys like Cano so they can start performing as they should.
Completely different issue, but is there any more talk on Darvish for ‘09?
Teixeira, Darvish, Sabathia…(commenter drools)…and I’d take 2 out of 3.
Man, I’m warning you, don’t get too caught up in the Darvish hype. Everyone that’s pumping it up has never seen him pitch. Remember how Dice-K was supposed to be one of the 10 best pitchers in the world? Remember Hideki Irabu?
Japanese position players and relievers have done very well. The starting pitchers just can’t seem to make the transition. Even Nomo was below average within 3 years of coming stateside.
Yea people seem to figured out okajima, and Matsuzaka has been more lucky than good in m opinion. Although to be fair Matsuzakahas been solid though.
not for nothing, but Matsuzaka did have a hand in pitching the Saux to a WS title.
he may not have been the best pitcher on the team, but when winning is everything, you cant say he wasnt worth the money.
He was also just a small piece of the WS puzzle. Is he worth the money? They payed pver $100M for him, I’m not so sure he’s been worth it, yet.
plus davrish is nowhere near being posted 3 more yrs i think