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River Ave BluesAfter keeping Boston in check, Washburn subject of Olney’s rumors
Posted by: Ben K. in Asides. Tagged: Trade DeadlineLast night, Jarrod Washburn faced the Boston Red Sox. He didn’t beat them, but he kept them in check for 5.2 innings. Today, Washburn finds himself the subject of some Buster Olney-inspired trade rumors. The Seattle lefty, owed $13.6 million before the end of 2009, could be a good fit for the Yankees, and according to the ESPN scribe, a possible trade would involve Kei Igawa, a secondary prospect and large sums of money heading from New York to the northwest. While, according to the Seattle Times, the Yanks — and anyone with any baseball sense — would prefer A.J. Burnett, Washburn wouldn’t be a bad choice. He’s a lefty with success in Yankee Stadium and a 2.65 ERA over his last 51 innings. This is, of course, just a rumor, but it’s an intriguing one nonetheless.
I’d just like to point out that, in his ESPN chat, Olney had this to say:
This guy needs some new catch phrases.
He’s gritty and gutty, and Joe Morgan thinks he’ll bring some consistency.
as long as he doesnt lose his “concetration”
4.75 era in the stadium in front of that defense? pass.
what do you mean by this? Seattle’s defense is bad. worse than the Yankees.
What, you trust Raser and Ponson more?
you make it sound like a 4.75 ERA is bad for a back-end guy. It’s not like all-stars are the only players worth acquiring. The Mariners’ LF D is terrible as well, so putting Damon and Melky behind him patrolling death valley could actually help.
Plus Jojima is basically an all around bad catcher
His ERA for the past 2 months has been right around, or possibly even below 3
Dude, I don’t even get a hat tip for writing about this in the previous thread?
Well, I got an e-mail about this around 40 minutes before you wrote it up if we’re going to nit-pick! A few in fact. It’s going around.
Thanks for the tip though
here’s my take:
for Kennedy or other prospects? pass
for Igawa? sure.
Word. At least this guy can maybe pitch adequately in the majors. And it opens up some AAA rotation slots for guys who’ve earned promotion from AA. I want to see what Coke has to offer against more advanced hitters. He could maybe be that lefty reliever we’ve been looking for.
I’ll go drive to Scranton and pack up O-Kei’s crap for him right now.
I’m available if you need a hand with all his playstation games…
Is Igawa into non-Asian porn too, or is that just a Hideki thing?
Anime / Manga only.
exaaaaaaaactly, if washburn ends up sucking whatever it was IGAWA who cares haha.
I’m confused as to why the Yankees would pay Seattle and take on the guy with the bigger contract? Am I missing something?
In theory because they would be getting more talent back in return. It’s a salary dump for Seattle.
Semantics. Sending money to Seattle is basically the same as paying the contract, I believe, and it serves to offset the millions owed to Kei Igawa.
Oh, OK. That makes more sense
isnt he only like 4 mil a yr?
Hence the term “salary dump”.
we all know they have the money to spare, and the though of igawa still as a yankee makes me sick.
There is really no arguing this. We are trading Igawa for a pitcher, an actual baseball player. I would’ve gotten rid of Igawa for a tank of gas.
You’d be overpaying. Have you seen gas prices recently?
I think you mean whoever traded the gas for Igawa would be overpaying….
I would try to get AJ Burnett first, before making this deal. Washbun would be the fallback option.
the yankees arent going to trade what the Rays would demand, and I doubt the Jays would trade Burnett within the division.
the whole point of a Washburn acquisition is that you arent giving up anything of value to take a chance on him, and taking advantage of your financial advantages to take on a salary dump where other teams would shy away from.
sorry, typo… what the Jays** would demand
exactly, especially since he is most likely opting out at the end of the season. if you don’t give up the big chips to rent sabathia, you don’t do it for burnett
I imagine they’d want a 1B or 3B in addition to Igawa (their organization is pretty thin there…
Miranda? Malec? Eric Duncan? Vech? Pruitt? Rufino? A PTBNL named Shelly?
anyone but my boy Malec
At Eric Duncan’s age (23) he is way too valuable and still has enough of a prospect status where he should not be included in a deal for a back-end starter as a throw-in player.
more like Cody Ehlers in that throw in situation
i think he’s got another full year in AAA to prove himself. but he’s almost at ‘what you see is what you get’ status.
but i think he’s also got to be put on the 40 man roster after the season, too. he was left exposed last winter, and noone took him… i wonder if he’d be ignored again.
when does he become a minor league FA?
Jarrod Washburn has a FIP of 4.42 this season and his BABIP is a career-high .325 (only time in his entire career he has had a BABIP of .300 or higher). Even more evidence than what his BABIP shows of his bad luck is the fact that his K/9 is 5.37, the highest it has been since the 2001-2002 seasons where his K/9’s were 5.87 and 6.07, respectively. His BB/9 is 2.62, under his career average of 2.75, showing that again, he has been quite unlucky this year because he is missing bats and limiting the free passes.
Jarrod Washburn is a damn good number five starter this season.
Yup, couldn’t agree more. Adding another lefty to the rotation never hurt anybody either, unless that certain somebody was the Yankees when they added the Kei Man
i dont love Washburn, but he certainly can be a serviceable 4/5 guy at the back of the rotation.
if all it costs is Igawa and cash, its a no brainer for me.
and it leaves you the prospects to still import Jason Bay
why are we so obsessed with jason bay lol! i dont knwo but i kinda think hes over rated. then again it just might be the GM with his high demands that is turning me off. and can bay really handle an divisional and or a pennant race?
Bay is a solid player, and yeah, i think he could handle a pennant race just fine. I’ll take Holliday, too. i think you can get Bay for less, though. i had read the pirates wanted 2 ‘A-Type’ prospects and another secondary prospect for Bay… i bet you could work them down to one ‘Type A’ and a solid haul of secondary arms.
its just the ridiculous prices by these GMs thats absurd.
i read that ODowd wants Bucholtz for Fuentes somwhere today… at least that gives you an idea that the Rockies view Kennedy and Bucholtz in the same light as far as prospect status, no?
lol yeah i think that was on MLBTR. which is you ask me minimizes our chance at him but then again there is talk that the bosox will rely on masterson in relief and hope okajima can get his changeup back. so that boosts up our chances. but hell if they want kennedy i say take him.
i agree with you on that one…trade kennedy now….
Yes. In fact, let’s trade all our assets when they are at their lowest possible value. That plan is sure to be a success.
when his trade value is at an all-time low? … selling low and buying high are usually what end up getting GMs fired (for good reason)
but using IPK in a deal for Jason Bay or Matt Holliday is not selling low.
and if the Rockies still view IPK in the same light as Clay Bucholtz, then his value hasnt necessarily slipped as far as we, the fans, would perceive.
How is that not selling low? We’d have to give up more with IPK in the deal now as opposed to before he had troubles in the bigs. That’s the definition of selling low.
Basically if Igawa and a 2nd rate prospect will get you Washburn, you should do it, yeah its 9M next year, but Igawa is pretty much worthless to the Yanks, forget about the salary, he blocks prospects, which could hurt the system more than 4M a year ever will. So giving him up for a guy who has some type of value (and can pitch on the ML level) is worth it. If nothing else Washburn is a nice insurance policy for next year, lefty & innings eater, else he can always be dealt again.
Obviously AJ Burnett is preferred, but Burnett will take actual prospects
washburn for no significant prospects — essentially just cash? and dump igawa? JW’s not cheap, but it’s only for one more year. this feels like a fit, b/c it gives depth/insurance to make up for the probable loss of mussina next year, and buys some time to ease hughes back in next year. pettitte’s not an automatic re-sign, either. if wang or hughes makes a return this season, we thank sir sidney and buy his plane ticket back to aruba.
he’s a lefty with solid career numbers, 33yo, playoff tested. burnett would be nice, but here we get durability, lower cost, and don’t part with major prospects (at least that’s how olney writes it). i see no downside here.
yep we know seattle loves the asian players, we cant have a 3 million or so dollar guy in the minors lol
don’t forget that the Yankees *could* also trade Washburn after the season.
it wouldn’t be too hard. he’ll have 1 year left on his contract.
but how much do you think we(if we got him) could get in return from a team? nothing more than a single 2nd tier prospect right
that’s fine though.
rent him for the rest of the year, dump his salary in the offseason.
no i know steve but i mena what can we get for him, or were you agreeing with what i said? i cant tell
Hey, on the trade topic, what GM’s or teams does cash have a good relatioship with? so we can narrow down trade possibilities.
igawa/some second tier prospect/$$$ for an innings eater who doesn’t make me cringe every fifth day? pull the trigger!!!!!!
either that or pull a literal trigger on igawa, i think the only two options lol
also, what do we think it would take to get mcclouth from the pirates? he could play center for the next 10 years
him or that catcher they have, doumit? im not sure how to spell his name but hes got some numbers.
guys, why would the Pirates even consider trading either of those guys?
yeah i know but its always nice to dream.
Exactly the Pirates are looking to Have McCutchen, McClouth, and Bay/Nady in their outfield, as the outfield of the future. McClouth at 26 & showing what he can do….not going anywhere
CASEY BLAKE PLEASE!!! Washburn is a nice pickup if we do it, though. Did I mention Mr. Blake?
Where would Blake play?
my say is the mets. dont even put him with the yankees. they love getting over the hill players anyway, el deque, conine, alou, delgado, the list can go on
Why would Blake play?