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Posted by: Joseph P. in Hot Stove League. Tagged: Barry BondsTwo weeks ago, Brian Cashman had this to say about Barry Bonds:
“I guess I can say that they have engaged us in the past and I’ve told them that I have too many people, maybe not too many people with the same ability, but too many people at the same spot that you have a lot of dollars committed to.”
However, that was before Matsui faced a setback in his rehab and Jorge realized that the pain in his shoulder is too much. With both offensive cogs likely done for the season, it looks like the Yanks don’t have “too many people at the same slot.” Though they brought in Dicklock Sexy, he seems to be an option only against lefties and as a late-innings defensive replacement.
Could the Yanks work out a system whereby Bonds takes a few days a week from Damon in left, in which Damon would DH, while acting as the primary DH? Could Damon move to center some days and Bonds could play left? Oi, that would be some horrid outfield defense. And where would that leave Jason Giambi? He needs time at DH, too.
It appears the Yanks will be addressing these question, and are probably addressing them as you read this. I’ll offer that there are certainly worse ideas. But the idea of having Bonds in left, Damon in center, and Abreu in right is frightening. Maybe if Wang was on the mound, but we know that’s not happening for a while.
Bonds needs 10 days to get ready.
once he is ready, Damon should be ready to play LF.
Bonds DH, Damon LF, Giambi 1B.
As a fan of teh game of baseball I cannot describe the pain it would cause me to see that man in a yankees jersey. He is despicable and I wouldn’t have lost a second of sleep if he had blown out his knee before reaching Hank’s record. He should have retired one home run before. Then jumped off the Golden Gate bridge.
Geez dude. What’s despicable about him? That he’s an arrogant jerk? Because that has to do with him being one of the most talented players EVER….even Pre-PEDs.
Is it cause he took PED’s? So did Giambi, Pettite, & even Jason-gad-dang-Grimsley!
He’s despicable because he was great, and PEDs launched him over the top. Ah well, c’est-la-vie, as they say.
I wouldn’t mind Bonds in pinstripes….it’d only be for two months anyway. Get over it. The extra offense would be fun to watch.
Plus hometown-hating “Yankees fans” need a pinstriped player to boo, now that A-Rod is consistently producing *how dare he*
Oh, and please don’t advocate suicide for anyone. And I mean anyone. It’s nasty business
The reason I find him despicable is because of what he went on to do, that he didn’t seem to find it enough to e as great as he was without roids, and that he (as cliched as it sounds by now) made a mockery of the most important record in baseball.
That’s why, and I apologize for the golden gate bridge comment, that was over the top.
and doc gooden and strawbery were coke-heads and became beloved yankees. winning heals many wounds
Also, cocaine and steroicds not the same thing in my mind. Good for them that they were able to overcome that (on second thought, they haven’t really), but I find steroids to just be disrespectful to baseball and everyone that has played or been a fan of it.
My personal opinion..
And you’re entitled to you opinion, no matter how illogically artificially sanctimonious and counterproductive it may be.
Kudos to you.
Steroids were disrespectful to baseball. That doesn’t mean Barry Bonds should be banned into perpetuity. He did not singlehandedly tarnish the game, hundreds of players, coaches, trainers, owners, and journalists all collectively tarnished the game or looked the other way and patted themselves on the back. Barry Bonds was a part of a much bigger problem; he shouldn’t be singled out for it.
Test him daily if you want to, but put him in a uniform and lets keep winning games.
Jesus Christ dude…
you are so right…give the guy a chance…i cant wait to see him batting against boston…or any other team…they will freak out…i say lets do it..
if they sign bonds i will have to become a royals fan.
cause if i pick a team that doesnt suck ill be a “bandwagon fan”
Wanna go in on joint season tickets at the Kauf? I’m with yah on this one
Have fun. We won’t miss the two of you. Take Mike and the Mad Dog with you on the way out.
it’ll be like the arly 90’s again but with waterfalls
and mike and the mad dog are not welcome anywhere i go. ever. ive almost turned my back on the yankees many times, never more so then the sheffiled randy johnson wright pavano era…tony womack kenny lofton..never ahave i hated a team more..but still i petrsevered. but i will never, never, never condone barry bonds, not because he tookd steroids, not because hs black or any of that crap but because of what he represents and who he is. to me he just epitomizes what is wrong with sports today. I wouldnt want allen “we’re talking about practice man” iverson and i dont want bonds and i wouldnt want TO and i dont want shockey.
OK godo os go cher 4 sumneo else then. Peace
Fine. Peace out. Have fun crocheting.
Yeah, Jorge Posada has shown good OBP skills this year but his power has been zapped due to the injury. Barry Bonds is looking better and better. I, for one, could care less about a player’s off-field issues so that has no bearing with me.
It will be interesting if Jorge Posada can’t make it back.
I can’t think of a guy I’d like to root for less than Barry Bonds. A lousy teammate, horrible with fans, arguably the worst media-relations player of his generation, and at this point an abject disaster with a glove on his right hand. Can he still hit? Probably, based on last year’s numbers. But are the Yanks really lacking for LH hitters? What the hell does bringing Bonds to the team accomplish? Satisfying Hank’s desire to finally make a splash now that Daddy’s given him the keys to the car?
“I can’t think of a guy I’d like to root for less than Barry Bonds. A lousy teammate, horrible with fans, arguably the worst media-relations player of his generation,”
Melky’s fan friendly, but do you want your players waving to the creatures while they’re trying to field the ball?
“and at this point an abject disaster with a glove on his right hand.”
DH him
“Can he still hit? Probably, based on last year’s numbers.”
This is the only factor to consider
“But are the Yanks really lacking for LH hitters?”
With Matsui *LHB* and Posada *LHB against righties* out…..YES!
“What the hell does bringing Bonds to the team accomplish?”
umm…you answered this with your assessment of his hitting.
“What the hell does bringing Bonds to the team accomplish? Satisfying Hank’s desire to finally make a splash now that Daddy’s given him the keys to the car?”
If that splash you’re talking about is a title….YES!!! And I think that car is a race car, so wouldn’t you want to win your first race with Daddy’s billion-dollar-empire of a car?
but can an injured posada or matsui come anwhere near the production of bonds - they couldnt when they were healthy.
argue that you dont want a liar or steroid user on the team - dont argue that he cant help the teamwin
reggie was an ass and the team was a day awy from signing albet belle. this move helps the present and doesnt hurt the future. let go of the bias and think of the playoffs
For some reason, I am reminded of this Onion article. Two of the five people in the photo have been or are on the Yanks already.
I love the onion. The article about a Moyer changeup finally reaching home plate after a lengthy journey was hilarious.
“By noon, Yankees GM Brian Cashman had signed the entire National League and most of the American League to multi-year contracts. Some 10 hours later, the final opposing player, Texas Rangers shortstop Alex Rodriguez, had been acquired by the Yankees, who bought out the remainder of his $252 million contract for $300 million.”
Mildly prophetic, isn’t it?
LoL, tell me ’bout it.
horrible outfield? sure, but he’s spend most of his time at DH…and I’m sure as hell not crying about an OPS over 1.000….some of you guys can hang out on your high horses while us reasonable, objective fans enjoy our offense destroying teams…thank you very much
amen
lets hope King George II puts his foot on cashmans throat and makes him sign bonds
Maybe if Cash is willing to lie down under the wheelchair/golf cart/velvet throne he’s sitting on.
I don’t think KGII can even lift him leg anymore, let alone get up & crush throats
I mean his son lol. not george steinbrenner the original lmao, the sequel one!
Big Bank Hank.
Why would the yanks sign Bonds to extend his HR record when they paid A-ROD all that money to go catch him? The public reaction to Bonds would be horrific.
A-Rod, if he’s healthy, will shatter Bonds’ record by more than whatever he’ll manage to put up in two months.
Plus, the Yanks paid A-Rod all that money to win games. And extra bonus incentives for breaking records.
Winning first, records second.
And if A-Rod doesn’t stay healthy, he won’t get the record. This is a non-factor.
Why would the yanks sign Bonds to extend his HR record when they paid A-ROD all that money to go catch him?
is this a serious question?
you really don’t see why the Yankees would want Bonds to hit HRs while playing for them?
He’ll have instructions in his contract to voluntarily stop at third every time he hits one out… that way we get all the RBI’s, but the official HR record stays the same.
I have to agree with the majority on here. If Bonds puts on the pinstripes, I may have to give up on baseball this season and just wait for my Jets to take the field and go 5-11. He is a despicable guy, and not because he used PED’S like Pettite and Giambi LastClownSTanding, it is because he lied to the federal government and refused to acknowledge that steroids improves your game. He took no responsibility in improving this tarnished era of baseball. This is not a good guy we are talking about. Can you honestly say Pettite and Giambi are anyway as despicable as he is. Now saying all of that, those who do not care about bringing in the cover boy of steroids, well along with Clemens, can bring him in and fit him for pinstripes. But is a 45 year old that is not using steroids anymore, well who knows about that, what can we expect out of him being that he has been out of baseball for over 1 year and there is only 60 or 59 games left in the season? Save face and say no to Barroid. Lets start a campaign RAB!
So he’s got lots of character flaws, and next year might be a convicted felon “probably not”
You rooted for Darryl Strawberry right?? You loved to see him launch moonshots into the black right?
This guy was a crack smoking wife beater!! Much worse than lying to a jury about doing something that physically hurt only yourself.
In my humble opinion.
My dad taught me when I was young that baseball players are fun to watch on TV or @ the game, but most of them are assholes, and you wouldn’t want to bring them into your home.
Of course there are some exceptions, but whether or not he’s a “good guy” really makes no difference.
To me at least
maybe i have little baseball ethis, but i want to win this season and i see a chance now..nobody will care once he hits a game winning hmerun against boston
all the bonds haters once fell back on the “we have too many DHs” now the excuse has changed to “he is a bad guy”
just admit that he could help win number 27
“Can you honestly say Pettite and Giambi are anyway as despicable as he is.”
They cheated, just like him. They lied about it, just like him. And then, when caught red-handed, they finally admitted it. Bonds did not do that last part, but frankly I’m less than impressed with Giambi’s and Pettitte’s “apologies.”
I simply don’t see how Bonds is “despicable” and other ‘roiders aren’t. The double-standard is nutty. I know, he broke the all-time HR record. Steroids helped him do it. If only Barry had the decency to have been less talented, so that the ‘roids had merely made him a really good player (say… an AL MVP). If only…
Barry Bonds can still hit. Really, really well. He doesn’t have a big platoon split. He will cost peanuts. Signing him will seriously upgrade the offense w/o costing the Yanks prospects (and they need their prospects, b/c they will need to make some trades to fill other holes at some point - probably in the offseason).
I gotta say, I’m so geeked about so many “Yankee fans” giving up their fandom and walking away from baseball over this. Good riddance, shorter lines for nachos at the concession stands for me.
Hate to break it to you, “willypooks”, but if my choices are A) have the Yanks sign Barry Bonds and we all go win some games and have some fun, or B) lose you as a compatriot in Yankee Fanhood, I’m picking A every time and twice on Sunday.
on a night when joba - a high K guy pitching is out there, or if wang a ground ball pitcher is out there or dare i say it they get burnett another high K pitcher they could afford to have subpar defense.
as i see it they need a hitter and a pitcher - trading for both would kill the farm. sign bonds and get burnett. people think that the jays will never trade in division, but those people forget that the yanks and jays have always had a good relationship - clemens? cone?
We got Cone from the Royals. We got Clemens from the Jays far before J.P. took over.
uhhh….you might want to check that.
I might. Damn me. KC to Toronto. Toronto to us.
The J.P. bit still stands for this one, too.
No thank you to Bonds. We don’t need a major jerk in club house.
How do you know we don’t already have one. You have never spoken to any of the 25-players in that clubhouse. You have not spoken to any off the coaches either, you don’t know who is who.
what do you care about the clubhouse…you are not in there..
Lets hope Cashman puts his foot on Joey H and tells him to go root for the dreaded Sawx!
Okay lets look at his numbers. its not like bonds struggles against lefties. hes a dominating force. his career average against LHP is .289 thats .014 less than his average against righties. look at his splits. when you takes his AB against righties nad lefties he has double against righties, sure fair, there are less lefties than righties out there, so half as many doubles against lefties half as many homers, Half as many walks. and almost half as many walks. so just to shoot down any idea that bonds will make us worse against lefties, because that is just insane. Besides, his numbers from the second half on are far better than the first half.
I don’t care if he walks on water. NO NO NO NO.
We’re not desperate and we don’t need him. NO NO NO.
Actually, we are desperate. That is if we want the team to make the playoffs. The offense is in bad shape. I know they just won 6 games - that’s great. The rest of their schedule is really tough, and they’re still behind. The Sox are about to get Ortiz back.
The team is down its #1 starter, its primary DH/backup LF, its starting catcher…
It needs reinforcements. If you are ok with punting this season, then fine, no problem to oppose Bonds. He’s a stop-gap solution only. But if you want to “go for it” then there is no better option.
Whether or not we’re desperate, he makes us better and we don’t have to trade away anything to get him or pay him a huge, expensive long term contract!
This is such a no-brainer that it’s insulting to the lobotomized to call it such.
Wow! Part of me says YES and part says NO………….what a quandry!
Hey Joey H, why don’t you marry Barroid while your at it!
gee you just have it out for me today. stats dont lie.
He’s made some silly comments before, and people can refute whatever they want, but can we just talk about what we’re talking about? Joey H. was quoting stats, not writing love letters.
Come up with some logical rebuttal. I didn’t see you telling me to go root for the dread sox when I dissected your anti-Barry post.
I don’t like the guy either, but we’re not talking about candidates for best man @ my wedding.
We’re talking about a big square peg to go in a big round hole that we have.
oops…freudian slip…square hole
Well said…heck, Canseco played for the yanks not too long ago!!
ugh ansd that waas awful too