Game 105: Just a speed bump

Stadium bond deal facing Congressional scrutiny
Charleston barely avoids getting no-hit

So the Yanks 8-game winning streak came to an abrupt, but predictable end last night. Tell me that game didn’t have that “eh, we’ve won 8 in row, we can mail this one in” feel to it right from the start. Oh well, can’t win ’em all.

The Yanks have lost 5 or 9 to the O’s this year, getting outscored 46-35 in the process, but they haven’t played each other since a three game set at the end of May. The O’s are 8-15 this month, and have lost 5 of their last 6. Their staff has a 5.85 ERA since the break, and tonight’s starter, Jeremy Guthrie, has an 8.10 career ERA in Yankee Stadium. Moose has a .588 winning percentage against his former team. This sounds too easy, so you know what that means…

1. Damon, DH
2. Jeter, SS
3. Abreu, RF
4. A-Rod, 3B
5. Giambi, 1B
6. Cano, 2B
7. X Nady VI, LF
8. Melky, CF
9. Molina, C

And on the mound, Mike “why are you surprised? I’ve won 263 games in my career, bitches” Mussina.

Notes: This series will be a nice test for new addition Damaso Marte; lefties Nick Markakis & Aubrey Huff have combined for 96 XBH and a 133 OPS+ this year as the O’s 3-4 hitters (yikes) … still no progress on the Jarrod Washburn front, apparently we bloggers are to blame … Jose Molina has caught all but one game since the break … the last time Moose faced the O’s, it got ugly quick … apparently someone actually wants LaTroy Hawkins on their team…

Update by Joe: Jorge will have surgery on his shoulder, ending his season. At this point, it’s for the better.

Stadium bond deal facing Congressional scrutiny
Charleston barely avoids getting no-hit
  • LiveFromNewYork

    The only good thing about a Sidney start is Moose the next day…sorta wash away the grime.

    • Old Ranger

      Did you see the last game Raz pitched? He did ok to very well, don’t you think? The difference between Ponds and Raz is; If Raz has his control/command he is good…if not, ooops! With Ponds, he will give up hits and walks…no matter what. Big difference! 27/08?

      • Old Ranger

        Oops, wrong posting place, on the above! ! #%$@^&% 27/08?

    • Alberto

      yeah but we get Rasner tommorow!!……our pitching has been so average every single year since the last time we made the world series….NYY team era is always 4.50+ for the year…its no secret/mystery why we cant get out of the first round………

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Why aren’t their more rumors about Aubrey Huff? I noted how he was quietly having a damn good, All-Star caliber year a few weeks ago. How are the M’s getting offers for Raul Ibanez instead of Andy McPhail hearing offers for Huff?

  • Alberto

    yeah but we get Rasner tommorow!!……our pitching has been so average every single year since the last time we made the world series….NYY team era is always 4.50+ for the year…its no secret/mystery why we cant get out of the first round………

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      The Yanks’ team ERA (3.97) and FIP (3.77) are both under 4.00 this season.

      • Ivan

        Yankees pitching is the main reason why we have not fallen out of the race.

    • Old Ranger

      Did you see the last game Raz pitched? He did ok to very well, don’t you think? The difference between Ponds and Raz is; If Raz has his control/command he is good…if not, ooops! With Ponds, he will give up hits and walks…no matter what. Big difference! 27/08?
      This is where it should be not with the 1st post. Sorry LFNY. 27/08?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Per SportsCenter, Jorge Posada will have the season-ending shoulder surgery.

    • Ivan

      no shock.

  • Alberto

    yeah Jamal, thats with Mussina pitching out of his mind and the bullpen beaing a beast…..for the entire season, we always end up with 4.50+…..average pitching

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Ah, another resident soothsayer. Tell me more, swami.

      • Geno

        How about that if Wang stays healthy this year, we’ve got a starting 4 (Wang,Pettite, Joba, Mussina) to rival anyone’s?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

          But, but…Geno…that goes against EVERYTHING our resident soothsayer is sayign!!!!11!!!1!!1

          • Geno

            Holy crap. Suddenly nothing is clear anymore. Darkness…falling…

  • Alberto

    this is the problem with Yankee fans…….blinded into thinking the pitching is good……we have no #1 starter!! (that is VITAL in october) we keep playing around with spot starters!! our ERA for the year has been 4.50+ for the season the last 5 years!!

    • http://yankeesetc.blogspot.com/ Travis G.

      i’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic.

      • Alberto

        you, like the rest of the city look into short samples to make your judgements……..I, on the other hand, look at full seasons…….find me the last time where the NYY pitching has been good for the entire year! we play with spot starters more than any other team in baseball…..out of all the contenders in baseball, we have had the worst #1 starter in the league

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

          Get this man a Mensa application!

          • Geno

            He sees the whole picture. We can’t possibly keep up.

        • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

          JOBA!

        • THE Dread Pirate Roberts

          truly, you have a dizzying intellect!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Since 2001 the Yankees have had only two seasons where they have had team ERA’s of 4.50+ over the course of the season. That was in 2004 (4.69) and 2005 (4.52).

      • Alberto

        2007= 4.49
        2006= 4.41
        2005= 4.52
        2004= 4.69
        2003= 4.02 (made the WS)
        before 2002, we were serious WS contenders because of the deep pitching!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          Hey, you said 4.50+, I was going by your standards. ;)

          Lastly, what do the pitching staffs of previous years have anything to do with the current pitching staff?

          • Rob H.

            Because jamal, that automatically means that we will have a 4.50+ ERA. it doesn’t matter that our pitching this year has been very good over the whole season. It also doesn’t matter that Mussina is this good because he has adapted to his diminished stuff. It also doesn’t matter that Joba has been basically an Ace with his numbers thus far.

        • Ivan

          Plus, if yourgonna say Moose has been pitching over his head, then Ican say that Matsuzaka has been lucky all season as well.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

          Hey Alberto:

          FWIW, the 1996 and 2000 World Champion New York Yankees had team ERA’s of 4.65 and 4.76, respectively.

  • Alberto

    we win 95 games a year and its ALL done on offense……we are always 1st or 2nd in runs scored but middle of the pack in runs allowed………pitching wins championships, its a cliche for a reason!!

    passing on Santana is INEXCUSABLE!!

    • Old Ranger

      We have hashed that over and over, most people agree with the non-move. Seven year contract plus the players they wanted…No way that was going to fly. 27/08?

      • Alberto

        ok so then we continue to enter October with no true ACE…..we’ve tried that since CONE retired and it hasnt worked……..good pitching destroys good offense 9 outta 10 times

        • Rob H.

          Again, Joba is doing just fine and Mussina is pitching great. It isn’t a fluke since he’s done it ALL SEASON. Pettitte is Pettitte and will do his same song and dance and shut down whoever we play in the post season. We will have Wang back and he’ll pitch well too. This year we actually have good pitching so your whole premise is basically negated and all you are clinging too is the past and not comprehending the present success that this team has sustained over the whole season, pitching-wise.

          • Alberto

            no doubt the pitching has been better so far than previous years…..but again, its SO FAR…..we have no clue what Joba will do the rest of the season, we have no clue what Mussina will do the rest of the season…..our reliable guys are Pettitte and Wang who is on the DL…..pettitte and wang neither are true aces, we’ve tried that and its a guaranteed first round exit

            • Rob H.

              Gotcha because the first 4 months of the season means nothing and is a complete fluke? That makes perfect sense.

              • Alberto

                not saying its a fluke….the game of baseball goes thru streaks….extended long streaks……when you have a guy pitching out of his head, like Mussina who has been on decline, you have to be prepared to handle that as a team that wants to be strong going deep into October…..the bullpen has been out of its mind to, all of them are having great years for the first time in their careers…..going into OCT, still no true ace and 2 reliable starters is a big NO-NO……….our ERA for the last 5 seasons has been 4.50

                • Hank Winkler

                  60% of the season is now considered a streak?

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

              And our first round exits had NOTHING to do with the offense not hitting at all.

              And you can apply your shoddy logic to any team in the league.

              • Alberto

                good pitching beats up good hitting!! thats the point!! you need to be able to match other team’s top starters…….name ONE team based on offense that has won it all since the big red machine……….ONE

        • Old Ranger

          I am not sure but, it seems to me we have gone over that little bit of news also! Everyone knows pitching carries your water. Why do you think we have a plethora of pitchers in the little leagues?
          Moose has been going great this year, and will continue to do so. One must remember the way he is now pitching (style) leaves no room for mistakes. If he has a bad day, so be it, every one has them. But now he knows he can bounce back and pitch well the next game. 27/08?

        • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

          JOBA dumbass

          • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

            sorry, was meant for Alberto

          • Alberto

            love Joba but we have only seen a handful of starts…….if we were truly an OCTOBER built team, we would have Joba as the 4th/5th starter coming out of the bullpen in the postseason…..the same way we had wells, duque as the 4th and 5th

            ………for a team unlimited in resources, Cashman should have built this starting rotation to look like this: Santana, Tim Hudson, Wang, Pettitte, Joba/Hughes etc……….THATS how you give yourself a GREAT chance on October……….but instead we keep playing with spot starters and unproven people like javy vazquez, contreras, weaver, igawa, pavano, chacon, small, ponson, redding, etc (its too long of a list)

            • Old Ranger

              Build a starting rotation like that we would end up with;…
              $300+mm payroll, NO Minor league, and very little in the way of young position players. In case you hadn’t noticed, our players are old. How can you replace them if you have spent all your money and young guys on the rotation. The supposition that pitching wins ball games, only holds water if you have a defence and avg.(+) hitting. Many of our liabilities of the past few years are being adroitly handled by Cash and his team. If we don’t learn from the past, we die in the future…Cash is changing the face of the Yanks, from a bashing team to a well rounded team. Cash is at the epicenter of many peoples criticism, for not making a deal here and making a deal over there.
              The ability of the team to go deep in playoffs is based on (let’s all say it together) pitching, defence and timely hitting. 27/08?

    • Ivan

      Dude, our offense this year hasn’t been as good as past years.

      Our pitching has been holding us down this season especiall with our top three of Joba, Pettitte and Moose. Add the fact our bullpen has been greatespecially since joba left. Our pitching staff is one of the leaders in the AL in SO. The BP #’s are very good as well.

      I think this pitching staff has a chance to be even better.

      Steve made a good point, this team for a while might be more built for the postseason the regular season.

    • Rob H.

      You do realize that it’s the pitching that has kept this team where they are this season right? You do realize that taking past performances means jack right now with our pitching going the way it is? Just because we don’t have a #1 starter right now(even though Joba is filling in just fine), we will get Wang back for the final month plus playoffs when/if we make it.

      • Alberto

        you realize we been down that road before with unknown starting pitching…….we thought we were great using chacon and undefeated Small in the playoffs…….we have a better shot (looks like so far) but still no true ace and going into OCT with 1,2 reliable starters…….Wang would be the #3 starter during the dynasty years

        • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

          JOBA is a #1

          • Alberto

            i hope so but we dont know that yet……..you want the NYY to be dominant like they used to be? Make Joba your 4th best starting pitcher…….

            • Newman

              Chacon won his start and pitched great in game 4 of the ALDS. What are you talking about?

              • Alberto

                great job! he pitched one good game…….out of the many times we’ve rolled the dice with avg pitching, ONLY 1 of them has pitched a good game in OCT?

              • Alberto

                go through ALL WS champions the past 10 years and you will notice that it IMPOSSIBLE to win it all without 2-3 starters pitching well in OCT……..the hitting is almost irrelevant

                • THE Dread Pirate Roberts

                  yeah, that’s why the angels are an unstoppable force every october.

            • Old Ranger

              Joba is our ACE as of right now, I’ll match him up against anyone. Every game has been better then the last one, will he go undefeated the rest of the way? I hope so, but being a realist I doubt it. Joba as our 4th starter is insulting, to him the ownership and the fans. I think your veracity has been blown to hell. Respectfully, it’s a wast of time debating you…good night to you. 27/08?

    • LiveFromNewYork

      OH NOT THIS AGAIN. don’t go there. We’ve been over this a million bazillion times. You’re an idiot if you think we’re going there again. Reread all the old threads. Sorry you missed the discussion but that RAB ship has long since sailed. Too bad you were not aboard it when it pulled out of the harbor.

  • zs190

    Those Seattle people sure are funny, 20 teams talking to them about Washburn? he’s on crack. Only a handful of teams can even afford to use 10+ million 4th starters and it sure isn’t anywhere close to 20 teams.

    • LiveFromNewYork

      They who do not learn from history…

  • E-ROC

    What can the Yanks get from the Twins for Hawkins? Jason Pridie?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      That would be a coup.

  • He’s got an Edge

    Bring up IPK to take Ponson’s spot. Immediately.

    p.s. How ugly is the X-Man?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      No need for immediacy. He doesn’t start again until Friday.

    • Ricky T.

      You dare to rip the X-Man???

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    The Angels won the 2002 World Series with Kevin Appier, Ramon Ortiz, Jarrod Washburn, John lackey (rookie season), and Mickey Callaway all making stars in that year. Name me an ace of that group. Jarrod Washburn was their “ace” that year and they won the title.

    That “ACE!!1!!” crap is overrated. Gve me a good rotation and I’ll take my chances. With the return of Chien-Ming Wang, I love this rotation.

    • Alberto

      i love how you had to go ALLL the way back to 2002 to prove a point………that group pitched well and won it all…..they were hot the entire month of OCT, it didnt matter that they weren’t good over their careers……….same with 2006, Marquis, Weaver, Suppan were all hot in OCT and the Cards won it all……..you want to keep going into OCT with average starters and keep rolling the dice without an ace and only 2 good proven starters?

      • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

        we HAVE an ace. his name is JOBA! welcome to planet Earth.

        • Alberto

          i hope so but we dont know that yet……..you want the NYY to be dominant like they used to be? Make Joba your 4th best starting pitcher…….

          • Greg G

            We were actually spoiled in the post dynasty years ( you know when we DIDNT win and the pitchers were better. We werent relying on a guy who was 4-14 with a 6.81 to be an ace) when we had at least 3 potential Aces ( if you include winning the Cy Young, and a guy named Moose who SHOULD have won the Cy Young and another guy who was always up there and winning 20+ games as “aces”) from at least 2001-2003. After 2 of those guys left, we acquired guys who were supposed to be aces and/or being paid as #1s who did not work out ( Johnson, Brown). But it is almost impossible to have 3-4 aces on 1 staff.

            Joba as a #4? Well it can’t happen, it’s just not possible. Where are you going to find 3 #1s to slot in front of him? Are there even 3 REAL “Aces” by your rigid criteria in all of baseball? I doubt it. Most of the free agents and trade bait that are so coveted are #4s at best, with the obvious exceptions. If there is pitching to be had most of it is of the medicre variety and not worth trading away anyone of value, let alone multiple major league players.

            • Alberto

              you are right, pitching is hard to get……….but the past few years all we have seen are aces being shipped around and we stand pat like they are moving bench players………the 5 guys in your rotation are like quarterbacks in football…….you rather have a dominant quarterback than dominant wide receivers right?

              • Alberto

                santana, hudson, sabathia, wang, pettitte, mussina, hughes, chamberlain…….its not impossible to have 5 aces

  • DP

    Karstens is probably starting Friday for the Pirates…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      I hope they do well. Jose Tabata was the first prospect I was ever aware of.

  • mike pop

    we gotta win tonight man.. if we won las night that woulda been serious ground // i love the yanks // we need to keep playing 800 ball lol

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

    All right. Game’s starting. Clearly, our new troll has made his point. We apparently are unanimously against him. No need to further acknowledge his logic.

    Wooo! Mooose!

    • Alberto

      im a bigger Yankee fan than all of you here……..pitching has been average for 5 years making it utterly OBVIOUS why we have been OCT flops….still no true ace…….no hitting-only team has ever won it all since the big red machine…..the yankees and tigers scored ton more runs than anybody else and both teams went nowhere in OCT

      • LiveFromNewYork

        oooh well we’ll all be quiet now since you won the Yankee fan contest. ooooh

      • THE Dread Pirate Roberts

        wait, you’re trolling on someone ELSE’S Yankees blog, i kinda think that makes THEM a bigger yankees fan than you, but that’s just me …

        • Alberto

          lol just means he has more time than I do…..

  • Manimal

    Wow did I miss alot here. I was at friends house sleeping over. Crazy. We played baseball for like 11 hours straight. Yesterday’s game was ugly.

  • Manimal

    What did the Bleacher Creatures say during the role call for Nady?

  • Ivan

    How similar are Adam Jones and A-Jax, and how different are they?

    • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

      I hope exactly the same LOL

    • Manimal

      Jones hit .298 in AA, Jackson is hitting .295.
      Jones OBP in AA .365, Jackson’s OBP is .376.
      Jones Slugging% in AA was .461, Jackson’s .450

      • Manimal

        awkwardly similar.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Adam Jones did that at age 19. Ajax is 21.

  • Manimal

    wtf? Where did these Trolls come from? I leave for a day and they come back?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Ok, thank you Orioles.

  • Manimal

    See how Nady cut the ball off before the ball hit the wall and it ended up saving a run? Damon take notes.

    • Ivan

      Nah, Damon could of done that

    • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

      why would a DH take fielding notes?

      • Manimal

        He sucks when the ball goes near the wall in left.

        • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

          that’s why he’s a DH

          • Manimal

            Hes a DH because hes hurt.

          • Manimal

            Wow, Yankees arms are crazy today.

  • Yankee1010

    I didn’t know that Meachem was the 3rd base coach for the Orioles.

  • Ivan

    What was Samuel thinking?

  • BigBlueAL

    Meacham is coaching 3rd for the Orioles too this game????

  • Ivan

    Guthrie has the type of stuff that can give us a hard time.

    • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

      He’s not your average Oriole.

    • Manimal

      Should I remind you of his 8.10 Era vs Yanks.

      • Manimal

        at yankees stadium* sorry.

    • Newman

      He also has an 8+ ERA at the Stadium. Something’s gotta give

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Nice.

  • Ivan

    That’s A Web Gem.

    • Manimal

      Fo sho.

  • Ivan

    Wow Chipper and Hudsonon the DL. Maybe the smart thing to do is trade Texiera.

  • Ivan

    It’s always the sucky teams like orioles that give the yanks a hard time.

    • Manimal

      Yankees suck vs bad teams and Angels. Everyone else they beat up.

      • BigBlueAL

        Well considering the Angels come to NY for 4 games this week….

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    You know, I can’t wait for Kevin Millar to retire.

  • Yankee1010

    This is going well.

  • gxpanos

    They better start scoring next inning, because they owe Moose bad. We can’t expect him to be perfect all the time.

  • BigBlueAL

    I didnt know Sidney Ponson was starting tonight as well.

  • Manimal

    Moose is wild. It happens.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Definitely, can’t wait for the papers tomorrow to start predicting a downfall.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        It’s probably already started at LoHud.

  • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

    wow I read MLBTR for a few min and 4-0???

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Back-to-back homers. The first one was a 3-run job.

  • Ivan

    Babe Ruth had a not bad of a season in 1927.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    So yeah, Alan Horne might have come back a tad too soon.

    • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

      what happened?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        4 walks, 3 outs so far.

        • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

          uggg. hopefully just rusty

  • LiveFromNewYork

    I was watching the game on Saturday and everyone was screaming that Andy was having a breakdown in the first inning. Yankee fans are nothing if not patient

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    For chrissakes Bobby, the wall is PADDED!!!

    • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

      Maybe so is his room. That’s why it scares him?

    • Yankee1010

      That is immaterial to him. It looks very scary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    In Daisuke Matsuzaka’s first 50-pitches tonight, he has thrown only 30% for strikes. Yet he is only down 1-0 through three innings.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I hate him.

      • Newman

        Just about to write that, I really hate him

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Your math is wrong, 52 pitches, 32 strikes says ESPN:

      http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=280728102

      That’s 61.5%.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Yes, I am slow. For some reason I had it in my head that 30/50=30/100.

      • Ivan

        I can’t wait next season when lady luck dumps his ass.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    One thing I like is that we are still in this game. The way the team has been playing you can’t be expecting them to just lay down.

  • Ivan

    Did you hear that what Oreal H. said? He said the Sox have to bring him back cuz he handles the staff.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      I hope Orel is a prophet.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      The Sox will bring Varitek back. He’ll agree to some $8M per year deal that makes him look like a hero for accepting less money, and Peter Gammons will felate him in blog form.

      • Ivan

        Whats the obssession with Varitek?

        • DP

          He is about .998 in GRIT

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    How is Nady’s plate discipline? I don’t know if he is just anxious but he has taken some questionable swings in these three games.

    • Ivan

      well he’s never been known as a guy that walks alot or even being an OB guy. Nevertheless, he maybe trying too hard.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Yeah, you have to cut him some slack. Friday night he was starting in RF for the Pirates, gets yanked mid-game to find out he’s been traded, flies to Boston Saturday morning, starts in LF for the Yanks at Fenway that night, then goes back to New York Sunday night. Plus his wife just had a kid. Brutal weekend.

        He’s human, and he’s just undergone a rather massive life change, so you have to give him a few days to get it together.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Mark Kotsay is batting cleanup for the Braves. Mark Kotsay has 27 RBI and a .397 slugging percentage this year. Mark Kotsay is batting cleanup for the Braves.

    • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

      wow. just wow. no Tex?

      • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

        nevermind

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Batting third. Chipper’s on the DL.

  • BigBlueAL

    Guthrie must be exhausted after the first 3 innings, cant imagine he can last much longer…..

  • bobtaco

    Never as good as you look, never as bad as you look, eh guys?

  • BigBlueAL

    answer is David Wells.

    • BigBlueAL

      Game 2 1996 ALCS

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Trivia answer = David Wells.

    • BigBlueAL

      I said it first!!! and was specific!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Mike Mussina would be way too easy for the trivia answer, no?

    • BigBlueAL

      Moose pitched Game 3 in Baltimore, and lost (remember Zeile losing the ball and Bernie scoring from 3rd)

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Was that the year Moose took the comebacker off his eye? That was brutal.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Born: 1989.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Nope, he lost his only ALCS start against the Yanks.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      This was to the David Wells guess.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Wait, I’m wrong again. I’m having an off day…

        • BigBlueAL

          u youngsters, trust me everything ive said is 100% accurate, and i didnt have to look anything up….

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Scott Erickson?

  • mike pop

    you see this shit// red sox interested in acquiring tejada

  • Ivan

    Come yanks, lets get something started.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    We gotta start chipping away this half-inning.

    *Good start Johnny D.

  • BigBlueAL

    Do i win a prize????

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      What the hell has happened to Derek Jeter?

      • Ivan

        Instead of pulling pitches that should be pulled inside, he tries to go the other way with em and jams himself and hits the ball to the second baseman.

      • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

        age

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Honestly, fuck you Jeter.

    • Dave P.

      Yeah. What Jamal said.

  • A.D.

    CLASSIC JETER, 16 on the season

  • Ivan

    I knew Jeter would GIDP. I just had that feeling.

  • BigBlueAL

    No words necessary for what just happened.

  • bklynJT

    Deter 4-6-3 Jeter does it again!

    • Ivan

      I was saying the same thing lol.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Come on A-Rod, pick up your Cap’n.

  • Ivan

    Jeter stop goingthe other way on pitches that should be pulled. He alwaysgrounds it to the the 2Bman.

  • gxpanos

    I feel an ARod homer.

    • A.D.

      i feel a K

      • gxpanos

        Haha you were a lot closer. He’s going to him one SOMETIME tonight. I think. Maybe.

  • A.D.

    It really amazes me how when the Yanks are off Jeter always seems to gidp. He’s gotta be aware of it, you think he’d bunt or something

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Jered Weaver sure doesn’t mince words, after a pop-fly falls in for a base hit: “God Dammit, Mother Fuck!”

    • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

      Utley

  • Newman

    Theo in his Celtics hat, are you fucking kidding me?

  • A.D.

    Hope the yanks are phoning it in after that 2 game streak

  • Pedro

    The Yankees are a pretty bad team.

    • Ivan

      Dude they just won 8 games in a row.

  • Ivan

    Hey Moose had a bad outing it happens.

  • BigBlueAL

    Well at least we have Rasner going tomorrow….

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    5 walks, 3 outs for Horne tonight. 43 pitches, 16 strikes.

    Yikes.

    • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

      he’s no IPK huh? lol

    • A.D.

      Well thats what happens when you take a guy from throwing sessions and toss him in a AAA game cause you traded half the rotation

  • A.D.

    At least Horne didn’t start for the big club tonight

  • Ivan

    Yankees will this game tonight watch. Big comeback.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      They’ll bring the tying run to the plate, at the very least.

      • DP

        Didnt you say that last night?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Maybe.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      The Orioles have a 9-man bullpen, if one of them gets in a bad count they will be replaced.

  • Ivan

    Another thing I gotta say, Jeter looks like Eminem a little bit. seriously he does, if you look closely.

    • LiveFromNewYork

      You’ve only got one shot
      Do not

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Hey look, Nady changed his number.

    • A.D.

      Old one wasn’t getting him hits

    • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

      Wife is watching Ferris Buelller. #22?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Yep.

        • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

          at least he finally got hit, if not A hit

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

            He got hit Saturday as well.

  • BigBlueAL

    I know he is erratic, injury-prone and doesnt deserve the money he is making, but AJ Burnett is so fuckin nasty when he is on it would have to be tempting to try to trade for him….

    • A.D.

      Taken off the market according to reports today

  • A.D.

    Sox looking at Tejada…I don’t get whats wrong with Lowrie?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      He sucks.

      • Ivan

        That’s rough come on. Why you gotta say that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    You’re not in Fenway Park anymore, Melky, you have to put some actual power into these fly-balls.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Why you should never listen to a pitcher: John Maine throws a pitch, the Mets trainers come out and check on him, Maine says “I’m fine, I’m fine”. Very next pitch is yanked for a solo jack. Maine is still in the game though.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Maine is now out of the game after retiring the next batter.

  • A.D.

    By the way the seattle cloumnist LaRue’s comments are redic. Since I believe it was Buster Olney that orginaly said the trade would basically be cash

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Yesterday was definitely one of those games where you are just preordained to lose. Today is just one of those unfortunate losses.

    • Ivan

      I rather get blown out than lose a close one to teams like this.

      • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

        What’s the difference? an L is an L

      • BigBlueAL

        A loss is a loss no matter what its the same, but its just kinda frustrating that the Yankees win 8 in a row then get their ass whooped 2 games in a row, one of which bein at home vs the sorry-ass Orioles. Plus knowing Rasner pitches the next game….

        • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

          exactly. i’ll take a hard-fought one run loss instead of an ass-whooping anyday.

  • A.D.

    That play (or lack thereof) by Jeter kinda sums up this game

  • E-ROC

    Angels lead 6-2.

  • Newman

    Thanks Dice-K, lets go Jays

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Hey, Torii Hunter just hit a three-run shot at the same exact time as that Grand Slam. Halos lead 6-2.

  • NYFan50

    On the bright side, DiceK has given up 6 runs and both Boston and Tampa are losing.

  • Bill N

    I don’t think jones was looking fastball do you ?

  • Ivan

    Well if we gonna lose well dammit at least the Rays and Sox will too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    With only one game behind in the Loss column to the Red Sox and three games overall to the Rays, wash games like this don’t hurt at all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    And those Yankee fans who were just booing D-Rob can fuck off.

  • Ivan

    Rough outing for Robertson.

  • Steve

    Thats the first HR Dave Robertson has given up playing professional ball.

    Picked a hell of a time to do it.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      If you’re gonna give one up, made it count.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    You know this blowout might present a perfect situation, Joe Girardi might use Damaso Marte for a full inning, allowing Marte to prove he to Girardi (if need be) that he can get out any type of hitter.

    • Steve

      Oh thats great. Now I feel much better.

  • Manimal

    Robertson’s era got raped. I still like him. I understand the bad pitching but seriously, one hit?!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Just one of those days. Every team has 3 or 4 of these a year.

    • Ivan

      Unless you are the Nationals.

  • Ivan

    These are type of games you miss a guy like Hawkins. Now we gotta use our top pitchers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Hey Mike, thanks for the tip on “A History of Violence”, I heard about it but never checked it out. I loved it. Joey Cusac is the most bad ass character I have ever seen in a flick since Beowulf.

    Just for kicks, you think those scenes between Joey and his wife were “Monster’s Ball” quality, if you catch my drift?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Never saw Monster’s Ball, so I’ve got no idea what you’re talking about. Sorry. ;)

      • BigBlueAL

        WHAT!!!!! If you have to see it just for that scene!!!! I havent seen the entire movie, but I have seen Halle Berry tellin Billy Bob “Make me feel gooooood”

    • BigBlueAL

      NOTHING is “Monster’s Ball” quality!!!! although Maria Bello for bein 41yo is hot as hell….

      • Ivan

        The only reason I wanted to see monster ball was the sex scene.

        • BigBlueAL

          I thought that was the only reason anybody wanted to see that movie…..

          • Ivan

            That scene was a 3-5 minute porno.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Disturbia was another good one, I forgot to mention that yesterday.

      • BigBlueAL

        This is what happens when the Yankees are gettin their asses whooped, we go completely off-topic….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    LoL, only the Angels can get five runs on two Home Runs and still score another run on a suicide squeeze play.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Dude, I was playing The Show yesterday, bottom of the 9th, bases loaded, one out, up by run and I had Hoffman on the mound. The Giants freaking suicide squeezed on me. I saw the runners moving, had no idea what the hell was going on, and then Vizquel laid one down. Not fair.

      • BigBlueAL

        I used to squeeze all the time in MVP 2005 when playin a human cause scoring runs in that game was damn near impossible if you were playing a human who was good.

      • Manimal

        LMAO, that sucks when Game AI’s outsmart you. I hate it.

        • kunaldo

          the worst is in MLB 2K7, where there would be at least 2 homerun-robbing catches a game…it was absurd and i wanted to throw my controller at the tv

          • BigBlueAL

            Try playing Fifa 08 for PS3 against the computer on Legendary.

            • kunaldo

              touche…soccer games are the most frustrating sports game to play b/c it seems like the comp is cheating….

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

            That’s what you get for playing suckiness. ;)

            • BigBlueAL

              I used to HATE soccer, but through videogames and actually watching European soccer and international stuff (plus livin in Miami and havin a shitload of South American friends) I actually like soccer alot now. Of course it doesnt compare to MLB, NBA or the NFL….

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.
  • giselle

    wow. i love the angels… suicide squeeze at fenway park. priceless.

  • Chris

    Here’s the Dice-K we know and love. 5 Innings and 6 Runs. He struggled down the stretch last year… maybe we’re in for the same this year.

  • Manimal

    This game singlehandedly killed the past week of yankees winning.

    • Ivan

      really?

    • Newman

      You’re right, 1 game definitely outweighs 8

    • LiveFromNewYork

      WHAT? That’s crazy talk.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Big insurance run for the Jays, Joe Inglett’s RBI-3B gives them a 3-1 lead with one out in the bottom of the 8th.

  • Greg G

    How many people are going to call for DFA Moose now?

    Oh thats right, it takes 3 bad starts for that to happen. Though he must be on a shorter leash because of last season. Maybe its down to 2 now?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Uh-oh, Brian Bruney threw one pitch (HBP) and was promptly taken out of the game.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      He got ejected. The hitter charged the mound, but didn’t make it to Bruney.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        LoL, God forbid I actually read the entire box score.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Welcome, Mr. X.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    X!

  • Newman

    Rays lose, Theeeeeeeee Rays lose. Hold this lead Angels – it’d be nice to lose 0 ground after such a shiesty loss

    • Ivan

      Good.

  • A.D.

    X is awake

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Phil Coke havin a great debut as a reliever tonight.

    • Manimal

      4 innings, 6 K’s

    • A.D.

      I’d say so

  • Manimal

    X Man to the rescue. I kinda pissed were not going to win with Moose pitching, we need to hope that Rasner will pitch well.

  • KW

    Moose got squeezed a ton and the ump is giving the calls to the Os, what the hell!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Check out the hustle by Molina.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Time to put Joe’s theory into effect (or is it only the 9th inning?).

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I guess we’ll find out tomorrow.

  • A.D.

    Shame Arroyo is off the market

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Huh?

      • A.D.

        Reds have taken him off the market, I was kidding because I thought any team that traded for him would be idiots

  • Pedro

    Too little too late Damon

    • Manimal

      if Girardi took Robertson out and put in Edwar it would be 7-4.(alot of assumptions I know but still)

      • giselle

        i distinctly remember edwar coming in a 2 out, bases loaded situation and giving up a homer (after a string of good outings) to dioner navarro last year. i do believe he cried after that. why put him in that position again?

        • Chris

          Different year, different Edwar. So far he’s yet to give up a hit in July…

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          Wasn’t that after Joe Torre didn’t use him for 2.5-weeks?

          • giselle

            yea youre right, it was his first outing in a while. but he had been pitching really well up to that point. it was horrible, horrible bullpen management by torre…. everyone was wondering why he didnt use edwar, and then he stuck him in that game.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Oof. Charleston would have gotten no-hit if Austin Krum didn’t single with two outs in the bottom of the ninth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    That chic in the red shirt that was drinking the beer was looking at Derek Jeter with those “come hither” eyes.

  • Pedro

    Will Sexson ever put the ball in play?

  • Manimal

    Sexson needs a bigger bat

  • A.D.

    Finally some offensive life, good to see Damon driving the ball

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Man, Orel Hershiser just dissed every X-Games athlete ever on the ESPN broadcast: “Do you think they”re athletes, or are they just guys that didn’t play real sports and call themselves athletes?”

    Oof.

    • A.D.

      Wow, thats rough

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Hater.

  • Pedro

    Horrible night for A-Rod

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Did you know that Edwar Ramirez is having a better season than Francisco Rodriguez, statistically?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      But … but … but saves are a stat! The most important, actually.

    • giselle

      he’s got another save opp tonight if he’s available.

    • Manimal

      are you serious? thats crazy

    • Manimal

      BUT, Krod pitched 46.3 innings when Edwar pitched 37.6 innings

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    The Mets’ bullpen fails at life.

    • giselle

      how many games are you watching at a time?!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        I was watching four (Yanks game on T.V. and the LAA/BOS, TB/TOR, NYM/FLA games on MLB.TV) before the Tampa game ended.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Ouch babe.

  • Pedro

    No surprises with Farnsworth

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Wow the Mets’ pen sucks.

  • giselle

    ha, who was it on this site that said “Reggie Willits and Howie Kendrick need to change names”. i wanna say it was mike, but i’m not sure…

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      ’twas I.

      • giselle

        i laughed so hard when i read that!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    I like how people just won’t give the credit to the Florida Marlins, they are staying in this people.

    • Newman

      How are they leaving in Schoeneweis for Hanley?!

  • giselle

    man, i want k-rod to earn a save tonight and fist-pump the shit outta the red sox after he records the last out. i really, really want that to happen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    My boy Hanley Ramirez is up with the bases juiced and up one run, oh boy!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    So my younger brother works and Wendy’s, and he just told me they now have a Baconator shake. I don’t know what a Baconater is, but that sounds NASTY.

    • giselle

      if it includes bacon and a blender… barf.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Dude, how old is your brother? I never could have worked at a fast food place, nor do I ever see myself doing so. Customers are assholes.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        35.

        Okay he’s 17. Just graduated high school, starting at Rutgers in a month.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          Oh that’s crazy, I’m planning to transfer to Rutgers next Spring term, depending on how these acting classes go. Either that or SUNY Oswego.

          • A.D.

            Go ‘Gers

      • Manimal

        Its disgusting what just working at fast food places does. I chose a cashier at the Supermarket and I’m only 16.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          He works the drive-thru, all he does is hang out the window and take orders/money from people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    What the fuck?

  • Pedro

    can we get Posada to coach 3rd base for the rest of the year?

    • http://knickerbockerchatter.blogspot.com Bruno

      i like that idea. or Willie Randolph?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Mets’…bullpen…suuuks.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      LoL, the Marlins’ fans are taunting the Mets’ fans as they are leaving the stadium.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Minaya needs another OF, another starter now that Maine’s shoulder is acting up, and another reliever. Instead, he’ll do nothing.

        • Newman

          I hear Victor Zambrano’s available

    • A.D.

      If Maine misses significant time thats no good for the mets, can’t afford that

  • A.D.

    At least the whole team is hopefully getting it out of his system tonight

    • Pedro

      D. Cabrera tomorrow. Another struggle, probably a 3-game losing streak.

      • Steve

        Cabrera is 5-6 in his career with a 4.62 against the Yanks. Wouldn’t completely write off tomorrow’s game just yet.

  • A.D.

    Wow Rickie Weeks probably blew the game for the Brewers

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Dan Uggla did the same shit, luckily the Mets’ bullpen sucks.

      • A.D.

        Yeah, but Uggla isn’t hitting .225 and scored a run later in that game

  • Pedro

    Veras has been shaky for the last 3, 4 outings.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That he has. Thankfully there’s actually some depth behind him if need be.

      • Pedro

        As weird as that may sound, we do have some bullpen depth.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Shhh, don’t tell Steve Phillips.

  • Steve

    And we even have some reserves in the minors. It’s stunning. How much of this can be attributed to Girardi’s handling of the pen? Even Torre’s biggest fans would agree he mishandled the pen regularly. I know it’s not all attributed to Girardi, but some of the same guys are light years better than last year (Farns, Edwar, Veras)

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      You can attribute part of it to Girardi, but mostly I just think it’s the general volatility of relievers. You never really know what you’re going to get out of these guys from year to year. That’s what makes what Mo, Hoffman and Wagner so impressive.

      • Steve

        Agreed, and though relievers are volatile across the league, I think Torre’s overuse/misuse led to extra volatility. Just ask the remains of Scott Proctors right arm. (and I wonder how pissed he is now about last seasons trade to the Dodgers)

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          As soon as I found out about that deal, the first thing I thought was “there has to be something wrong with Scott Proctor for them to trade him, right?”

          Sure enough…

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