Game 96: That was a good year


Ah the ’96 season. Easily my favorite of the Championship years. Who could forget Doc and Jimmy, Zim and Big Cecil, the rookie sensation and the rookie dud, the new manager coming in and the old icon leaving, and of course, the winning. Goodness, did that team win. They won on the first day of season, they won on the last day of the season, and they won 101 times in between. That team wasn’t expected to win, but they did anyway.

Fast forward to 2008, and most consider this Yankees’ team dead in the water. The six game deficit is too big, the offense is too anemic, the rotation is too thin, and the bullpen is too flaky. No one expects them to win, but let’s do it anyway.

1. Jeter, SS
2. Abreu, RF
3. A-Rod, 3B
4. Posada, DH
5. Dick Lock Sexy, 1B
6. Cano, 2B
7. Melky, CF
8. Hava Molina, C
9. Gardner, LF

And on the mound, the man with a 2.74 ERA in his last 52 IP, Mikey Moose.

Notes: Billy Traber was shipped to AAA & Phil Hughes was retroactively placed on the 60-day DL to clear 25 & 40-man roster spots for DLS … Oaktown’s throwing a southpaw, so obviously Jason Giambi would be more useless than Jose Molina tonight, or maybe he’s just nursing a hangover … the game is on MY9 tonight, not YES …

Categories : Game Threads


  1. E-ROC says:

    Wouldn’t the lineup be more potent if Giambi was the DH, while Posada is the Catcher? No, that would be too obvious. Hopefully, Girardi gets a clue some day soon.

    LOL @ Dick Lock Sexy.

    • Ivan says:

      Plus, the A’s are not really a team that runs alot anyway.

    • whozat says:

      “Wouldn’t the lineup be more potent if Giambi was the DH, while Posada is the Catcher?”

      Yeah, Girardi probably didn’t think of that. He mostly spends his time with his head up his ass.

      Or…wait, maybe he realized that, with a day game tomorrow, Posada would not-catch in one of these two games. And decided that, if Molina’s going to catch one pitcher, Moose would be better than not-Moose.

      Nah. He’s probably just an idiot.

  2. mustang says:

    “The Phillies were recently working on a blockbuster with Colorado that would have netted them Brian Fuentes and Matt Holliday for something like Shane Victorino, J.A. Happ, Carlos Carrasco, and Lou Marson”

    Mike A- Can you give me an idea on how good the minor leaguers are in this package or maybe compared them to some Yankees ones. All I got on the net is the Philles spin on them.
    Thank you

    • Mike A. says:

      Where’d you see that rumor?

      Victorino, Happ, Carrasco, Marson would be like Melky (but able to hit), Chase Wright, IPK, Montero (but in AA).

      • mustang says:

        Damn the Yanks can do that.

        MLB trade rumors.

        Thank you

        • whozat says:

          Can they? They don’t HAVE melky-that-can-hit. Also, Montero is one of their jewels in an area they don’t have any depth. At least if they give up Jackson — for example — there’s the possibility of Tabata stepping up.

          • mustang says:

            Oh please! Put Gardner in CF (Holliday can more then make up the production) and Montero is in AA for god sake they don’t even know what position he going to eventually play. It’s Matt Holliday take a look at this numbers and then talk to me. Plus Fuentes.

            • mustang says:

              Montero is not even in AA i think he is lower.

              • Mike A. says:

                Low-A, two levels away.

              • whozat says:

                “Montero is not even in AA i think he is lower.”

                So? He and Miranda are the only power hitting prospects the Yanks have, and Miranda’s a bit suspect. The Yankees don’t get to draft guys like him. They have to sign them internationally, or take raw high school kids. Montero is REALLY not very easily replaceable. They need to fill the package with pitching, because they have a lot. If it takes Betances and Tabata and Kennedy…that I’d do. I read on BP today that consensus is Holliday could play RF. So, I stand corrected on that. If they can get him without giving up Jackson, Hughes, Melancon and Montero…do it.

                • christopher says:

                  tabata is closer to the majors than montero and until he slumped this year was being compared to young manny. why so quick to give up on a guy who has already played well in all levels of A Ball instead of a guy still in A ball?

                  Gardner may appeal to them – not as a centerpiece, but they have always been find of very speedy centerfielders in colorado – he fits the pierre/tavares mold

      • whozat says:

        So, solid ML center fielder, fringey AA/AAA lefty, young AAA/MLB cheap-back-end guy, and AA high-offensive-upside catcher.

      • christopher says:

        could even add in olendorf and be happy with that deal – the only one i would really miss is montero – dont see IPK ever being more than a 4-5 starter – 4.75 ERA, 10 wins on a good team – maybe one or two good years at his peak 3.50 15 wins

        would love holliday – dont care about the splits – reminds me of oneill while melky reminds me too much of a roberto kelley but not as good a hitter.

        if that gives a real picture of what colorado wants for holliday and fuentes – would be a great deal for this team – think – 96 jeff nelson and tino. plus if fuentes leaves the team gets compensation picks for him – a first and second round pick compensates for the loss of at least 1 prospect

  3. Mike A. says:

    Was Joba Chamberlain really just singing Luther Vandross and asking to be on The Bachelor in an ESPY’s commercial?

    Good grief.

  4. Mike A. says:

    No other player capable of playing first base on the roster would have been able to make the play that DLS just did.

  5. Manimal says:

    The good thing about sexson is hes such a big target to throw to, he gets almost anything. being 6-8 helps in life.

  6. Jamal G. says:

    LoL, is Michael Kay’s role being reduced? You would think YES would want their top play-by-play man back in action during the opening series of the second half. He was the PA during the HR Derby so unless something happened with him in the last 96-hours or so, he is fine.

  7. Mike A. says:

    I was hoping the Yanks would get Smith in the RJ deal just because they needed a young lefty, but alas.

    • Jamal G. says:

      What’s going on with Brad Halsey? MiLB.com says he’s active but he hasn’t pitched in a game since April 16th.

      • Mike A. says:

        Not sure, I know he had surgery to repair a torn labrum last summer, and there was a whole big deal over it because he filed a grievance with the MLBPA because he felt the A’s ignored him when he said his shoulder was hurting.

  8. Jamal G. says:

    Really Jeter? First pitch?

  9. Manimal says:

    Whats Joba’s odds in the RofY race. I’d say Longoria will win because of his immediate impact on the rays.

  10. Jamal G. says:

    A-Rod is ready to breakout. Look at that last Plate Appearance. Two great hacks and taking that close 3-2 pitch. Oh boy.

  11. Manimal says:

    LMAO, that was so awquard

  12. Manimal says:

    Richie Sexson looks so wierd, hes like all legs.

  13. Mike A. says:

    Dick. Lock. Sexy.

  14. Jamal G. says:

    He showed a whole lot of discipline for a guy with a .315-OBP this year.

  15. Manimal says:

    Well you dont see that everyday. You collide and then help him up.

  16. Mike A. says:

    A-Rod is such a primadonna, running over the catcher like that.

  17. Jamal G. says:

    Name me another $100M player who would run shoulder first into a Catcher.

  18. Yankee1010 says:

    Nice to see Meachem hasn’t lost his knack over the break.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      You cant blame him for sending ARod in that situation, but honestly Ive never seen so many guys get thrown out at home by such a huge margin like the Yankees have had this season.

      • Yankee1010 says:

        You said it yourself, you’ve never seen so many players thrown out by such a huge margin like the Yankees have had this season. The point is that most of them aren’t even close. In that case, it doesn’t matter what the “situation” is. What matters is that the ball will have to be thrown into the stands for the runner to score.

    • Jamal G. says:

      BigBlue is right, no way you can blame Bobby Meachem. Look at the situation for a second: A-Rod is the base-runner, two outs, Melky Cabrera on-deck. You wouldn’t send him?

      • Yankee1010 says:

        So Meachem should just wear a windmill as a right arm, regardless of how hard the ball was smoked to right? It doesn’t matter if Melky was on deck with 2 outs if A-Rod didn’t have a chance in Hell of scoring.

        • christopher says:

          coulndt agree more – should the runner be sent just because of the situation? why have a 3rd base coach if your sending any runner home in that situation?

          it is hs job to determne if a unner can score or at least in that situation has a chance of scoring. obviously by the result he had no chance. willie used to send a lot of guys but would do it in situations whee a perfect throw was needed to get them – not in sitatuations where they will only score on a horrible throw.

          i dont care if a pitcher is on deck – you dont give up a baserunner especially on a team struggling to score

  19. Mike A. says:

    Wow, Jeter’s Edge now has a cool sync-voice activated sound system.

  20. Manimal says:

    I really miss bowa. Cano is useless without Bowa.

  21. Jamal G. says:

    I have now come to the conclusion that I want Mike Mussina back next year on a one year deal with a mutual option for a second year. If he does not accept, would you guys be comfortable in guaranteeing that second year? Or do you not want him in pinstripes at all next season?

    *Mike Mussina fucking owns.

    • Mike A. says:

      I’d do one year + an option, say $8-10M per. There’s no such thing as too much pitching.

      • christopher says:

        not if it means the team wont get sabathia or sheets – dont want another “well petitte signed so we dont need santana”

        dont trust another year of junkball pitching and certainly dont trust him in the playoffs. let him go to SD or LA and possibly win 300 and get the type A compensation for him

  22. Mike A. says:

    Mooooooooooooooose. Three backwards K’s in the inning.

  23. ryan says:

    the moose is loose

  24. Manimal says:

    WTP. Warning Track Power.

  25. Mike A. says:

    I do like how truthful Cone is being about his perfecto. Most guys are like “I didn’t even know I had one going,” he’s being very candid about it.

    • Jamal G. says:

      That’s what I love about Coney as a broadcaster, he’s so honest in that booth. You could tell the way he is in that booth is the same way he is in real life, an odd ball who never has a boring moment.

      The best part is, you know he realized what he said in KC about Ian Kennedy being “jerked off” in the bullpen.

  26. Jake says:

    That was a looping swing from Brett.

  27. Jamal G. says:

    I knew I wasn’t going crazy, it seems as I wasn’t the only one who noticed Willie Mays giving a cold shoulder to Josh Hamilton during the on-field introductions. It was all over the web on Wednesday.

    • Mike A. says:

      Right, but Mays didn’t know who it was tapping him on the shoulder. He turned around, saw Hamilton, and then shook his hand. Fox cut away before that though.

      • Jamal G. says:

        I did read that Mays has some eyesight issues so he probably didn’t know who it was that was running towards him. It just looked really weird. Glad there was nothing to it though.

  28. Jamal G. says:

    Lmao, David Cone is nothing short of awesome.

  29. Jamal G. says:

    Tampa Bay is looking real over-matched against A.J. Burnett’s Fastball right now.

    Mark Ellis, only Second Basemen that is better than Robinson Cano defensively this year in the A.L.

  30. Manimal says:

    I was kinda pissed arod didnt stay to watch the rest of the allstar game. I guess Madonna cooked dinner and it was getting cold.

  31. Mike A. says:

    Sexson can only get hits with two out and RISP.

  32. Ivan says:

    The real sexson stood up.

  33. Ivan says:

    Robbie and Abreu has dne better against LHP than righties despite their struggles. wierd.

  34. Mike A. says:

    Robinson Cano, let the second half surge begin.

  35. Jamal G. says:

    Was that really of the end of the beat or was Kenny just mistaken?

  36. Manimal says:

    Wow the yankees look different today. They are scoring runs its wierd. And you know what? They are getting good pitching, AT THE SAME TIME.

    • Jon says:

      Oh please. As soon as they leave some people on you’ll be whining all over again and posting every two seconds about it.

  37. Manimal says:

    Well Melky hasn’t changed

  38. Ivan says:

    Is that Robbie?

  39. Mike A. says:

    Bobby Crosby is going to be an MVP one day, as Peter Gammons said back in 2004.

  40. Manimal says:

    The ball is really carrying out tonight.

  41. Ivan says:

    Mussina doesn’t look sharp so far.

  42. Mike A. says:

    I’m going to say Jeter for the trivia answer. Just a guess though.

  43. Ivan says:

    The answer of the trivia question is Ricky Ledee

  44. Jake says:

    So tonight’s YES trivia question is which Yankee did not have a hit during Coney’s perfect game. And Singleton said (I’m paraphrasing): “I’ll give you a hint. Eight of the batters had at least one hit, but one did not.” How is that a hint?

  45. Ivan says:

    Speaking of perfect games, If Moose got Carl E. out that would have been the most dominate yankee perfect game. He was nasty.

  46. Jamal G. says:

    Jose Molina pumps his fist in the fourth inning?!?! BUSH!!1!!1!

  47. Jamal G. says:

    Scott Brosius? That was too easy dammit for anyone to guess.

  48. Mike A. says:

    Oakland’s defense is ridiculous. They’ve basically got 3 centerfielders in the outfield.

  49. Yankee1010 says:

    Brett, just because you’re trying to take Melky’s job, it doesn’t mean that you have to slide into 1st too.

    • Chris says:

      It’s actually faster to slide head first, contrary to semi-popular belief. More likely to get injured, but faster.

      • Yankee1010 says:

        Um, exactly where are you getting this from? It isn’t.

        • Chris says:

          Um, where are you getting that from? If it’s not faster, why do outfielders dive for balls? Why do goalies dive to stop kicks? You gain about 5+ feet of distance by diving head first.

          • Jamal G. says:

            You gain distance but you have to slow down in order to dive. It is physically impossible to dive without loading up first. That loading up period is where you dramatically slow down, thus diving to shorten your time is wrong.

      • Jamal G. says:

        No it isn’t guy. It is common sense, you have to slow down to dive, thus you are not at your optimal speed when diving. Haven’t you ever wondered why Olympic runners don’t dive across the finish line?

        • Chris says:

          Because it would hurt like hell. Besides, I don’t think arms count for crossing the finish line.

          Why do outfielders dive for balls then?

  50. Manimal says:

    Brett needs to not drag bunt. Hes safe if he didn’t drag it and pop it up.

  51. Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

    Is that a “scrappy” play now?

  52. Manimal says:

    Off with Meachem’s head.

  53. Jake says:

    Does Bobby Meachem have any idea what he’s doing? If we somehow make the playoffs this year, we need to replace this guy.

    • Yankee1010 says:

      Why wait? I’m not being sarcastic. Exactly what is he bringing to the team? George sent him to AA for shitty play. He’s proving that even being a 3rd base coach is probably beyond his abilities, so I don’t see why something similar shouldn’t happen.

  54. Jamal G. says:

    The Yankees are third in baseball w/RISP and two out but are dreadful w/RISP in-general. Baseball is an odd game.

  55. Manimal says:

    I give Arod credit with Jeter being safe. Suzuki was scared shitless.

  56. Mike A. says:

    What is this? Hits with 2 outs? You mean they’re allowed to do that?

  57. Yankee1010 says:

    Jesus, Meachem. Meachem seems determined to get everyone killed at the plate so that he can give himself a shot again. Meachem: “George, you sent me to AA from the Majors, I’ll send your players to the ER.”

    • Chris says:

      I would much rather have an agressive 3rd base coach than someone content to leave the guy on third. If you have a 75% chance of scoring, then it makes sense to go. Considering all of the things that could go wrong (see the Jeter play), it makes sense to send the runner much more than most third base coaches do.

      • Yankee1010 says:

        So Meachem should just continue to send players indiscriminately? I’ll have what you’re having tonight. There aren’t too many poeple supporting 1) the theory that Meachem is even a mediocre 3rd base coach or 2) the theory that diving into 1st is actually faster than running through 1st.

        • Chris says:

          With the base running, I’m just playing devil’s advocate. I do think it’s faster, but I don’t think there’s real data to prove it either way.

          As for Meacham, he might suck, but the measure of a third base coach should not be how many runners are thrown out at home. If no one is thrown out, then he’s not sending enough. Particularly with two outs (as was the case on both plays tonight), it doesn’t make sense to leave a runner on third. He most likely won’t score (maybe 40% of the time) so if there is a reasonable shot of him scoring, then he should be sent.

  58. Jake says:

    Time for Big Sexy’s first HR in pinstripes.

  59. Mike A. says:

    Check out Richie. Workin’ counts, driving in runs, make nice plays in the field.

    • Jamal G. says:

      He’s not a winning player so to hell with him.

      Speaking of which, I wonder if people like Jon Heyman would suddenly explode if Adam Dunn were to ever win a World Series.

  60. Manimal says:

    With that walk Wilson Betemit only has 2 more walks than him, I repeat. Betemit’s 3 walks vs Sexson’s 1.

  61. Yankee1010 says:

    At least they seem to be out of the offensive malaise. There have been other times this year when they seemed to really be putting it together. Hopefully, this is the springboard to the playoffs now. Yes, they’re in a little hole, but I stilll think it’s going to happen.

  62. Mike A. says:

    Oof, Robbie just missed that one.

  63. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Just got home. 6-1

    Come on Second Half!

    • Manimal says:

      Sexson RBI single, Arod Colided with Suzuki but was out, Cano 3-run hr, Moose is giving up alot of hits but is holding them to 1 run.

  64. Manimal says:

    TB is losing 1-0 against Toronto and The sox start at 10.

  65. Jamal G. says:

    From the swing to the route taken by Mark Ellis, that whole play just made my head hurt.

  66. LiveFromNewYork says:

    well at least he battled

  67. LiveFromNewYork says:

    did Michael Kay get fired? don’t tell me he takes vacation

    • Mike A. says:

      He’s on vacation. I remember when Murcer passed away, they had Kay on the phone and they mentioned he was out on Long Island somewhere on vacation.

      • Jamal G. says:

        From the ESPN Radio gig to all the YES Network gigs, I’m sure Michael Kay earns a six-figure annual salary. A man with no wife (and as far as I know, no kids) who works in New York City takes a vacation to Long Island? Lame.

      • LiveFromNewYork says:

        who goes to Lawn Guyland for vacation? He must be in the Hamptons…but no one calls that Long Island.

  68. Jamal G. says:

    If the Baltimore Orioles finish with 79-wins or more then Dave Trembley should be the A.L. Manager of the year (If Tampa Bay does not qualify for October play).

  69. LiveFromNewYork says:

    oh it’s on my9 nevermind.

  70. christopher says:

    wasnt that rookie “dud” an untouchable until he turned to crap? noy critisizing keeping him but i just remember how good we all thought he was reading about him and seeing hm when he first came up. all the more reason why you cannot rely soley on your system to grow up to become productive players (unless you draft number 1 for 10 straight years lke the rays). a very select few become jeters or jobas. more often they wind up at best bench players on some NL Central team or wind up stealing from the club house

  71. Manimal says:

    Nice play by Cano

  72. Mike A. says:

    Good God, anyone see the Nats’ lineup tonight? Cristian Guzman is hitting third, Austin Kearns and his .613 OPS are hitting cleanup, and Johnny Estrada and his .179 SLG are hitting 5th. Ouch babe.

  73. christopher says:

    must be great to be a Rays fan. i lve hea n tampa and in the midst of a 7 game losng steak every caller on the radio is just filled with such excitement. i just think about how most of us go nuts over a losing streak even at 10 games up back in the good ol days. .

    makes me think a lot about 96 and the years before. how great that run was, even 95 was special for me havng grown up and become a fan in the mid 80s and watching all those awefule teams. perspective is everything i guess.

    • LiveFromNewYork says:

      96 and 98 were my favorite of the dynasty years.

      • christopher says:

        01 was great too – we lost, but that WS was one of the greatest I have seen – at least the last 5 games of it. I still consider it part of the dynasty – if mo could take back that throw to 2nd back – how would people rank that one?

        96 and 98 were great. 2000 against the muts was sweet just to beat them down . 99 sort of gets overlooked a bit. i dont remember much about that team

  74. Mike A. says:

    Let’s see if Braden breaks out the screwball.

  75. E-ROC says:

    Damn, how many lefties do the A’s have?

  76. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Arod says what distraction?

    • christopher says:

      distraction is so overrated in baseball. is there any more player more distracted than manny and there are not many players i would take in the clutch.

      someone else out there does very well with distractions – hits a lot of homers and gets on base almost 50 percent of time.

      a bit of a primadonna but could make this offense the best in baseball – a 1-2 punch of he and AROD left and right would be awesome.

  77. Jamal G. says:

    Told you he was ready to breakout.

  78. Ivan says:

    A-Bomb From A-Rod.

  79. Ivan says:

    Man A-Rod has one of the best posses in baseball, although I hateto say it, the best is Manny though.

  80. whozat says:

    This is the guy replacing Blanton in their rotation? The Rays get to see THIS guy next week?


    Also…how do we get the bleacher creatures to chant “Dick-Lock Sex-y” during roll call?

  81. Mike A. says:

    That commercial with the big dude trying to open the bag of cereal cracks me up every time.

  82. Ivan says:

    A-Rod: take that bitch

  83. LiveFromNewYork says:


  84. Ivan says:

    It looks like Robertson throws a Knuckle-Curve.

  85. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Joba in the pen who?

  86. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Robertson needs a fist pump.

  87. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Mariano schooling….

  88. Ivan says:

    You see how Rivera is making Ramirez and Veras his sons.

  89. LiveFromNewYork says:


  90. Mike A. says:

    One of these days I’d love to see them just send out Mo, a catcher, and a first basemen defensively in the 9th. Get him to K a few guys, and get a weak comebacker on a broken bat.

  91. whozat says:

    That’s a pretty good strike to ball ratio, Robo.

  92. Will says:

    Anybody know why Gameday is using a profile shot of Moose pitching for D-Rob’s photo?

  93. Mike A. says:

    I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure Andrew Brown was traded for Milton Bradley twice. Once from LAD to CLE, then again from SD to OAK.

  94. Mike A. says:

    Looks like the Mets’ fluky little win streak is about to come to a screeching halt.

  95. Jamal G. says:

    Only one way to describe this game: Dominant.

  96. Mike A. says:

    WTF is this bullshit on ESPN.

  97. Jamal G. says:

    Steve Berthiamue (sp?) is one of the most unprofessional little fucks I have ever seen in the media.

  98. howhwa says:

    Yankees bullpen – Hawkins = Sick

    • Mike A. says:

      Even with Hawkins it’s sick. Hawkins only pitches in blow outs, Girardi hasn’t brought him into a close game that I can remember since he blew that save in extras in Bal’mer way back when.

  99. Mike A. says:

    Buchholz getting lit up early.

  100. Jamal G. says:

    With seven more victories only thirty-two people in the history of baseball will have more pitching wins than Mike Mussina. Since the Wins stat is unfortunately a big barometer for Hall of Fame candidacy when dealing with a pitcher, how can Moose not be considered a future Hall of Famer?

    • christopher says:

      if he decides to hang on for a few more years which for some reason I dont see him doing, he could get to 300 wins especially if you put him in SD or LA. he could pitch 5 more quality years out there. those big parks are perfect for control pitchers with declining stuff.

      I like him a lot, but I would rather the yanks part ways after this year only because I can already hear the excuse that they didnt sign sabathia because they already had their rotation joba, petitte, moose, wand hughes. the same crap excuse they used with Johan and Pettite returning.

      just dont see room for him if this team does as it should and signs CC. hell, i would love to see them get greedy and sign sheets too and let hughes spend a year in AAA or even the bullpen, but that is just fantasy.

      point is that the team needs to get younger and a rotation of CC, Joba, Wang, and huges set up for the next 5 years sounds great.

      the only way i bring moose back is if pettite retires and moose takes a 1 year with a team option type deal.

      that being said you can never have enough pitching and unfortunatly i have lost a bit of confidence in handing hughes a garunteed spot in the rotatation, but a 10 million dollar insurance policy, which is what moose would be if they signed CC, is expensive and would equal 1 less quality player

  101. whozat says:

    Screw you, Lackey. You’re supposed to be a good pitcher!

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