Near no-no in Scranton

Open Thread: The Yankees we have, not the Yankees we want
Ich bin ein rotation candidate

Triple-A Scranton
Game 2 (4-1 win over Richmond in 8 innings, walk-off style)
Alberto Gonzalez, Chris Basak & Greg Porter: all 0 for 3 – The Former Attorney General drove in a run, drew a walk & K’ed … Basak tripled, K’ed & committed a pair of fielding errors … Porter K’ed & committed a fielding error
Eric Duncan & Matt Carson: both 1 for 4 – Carson K’ed
Juan Miranda: 2 for 4, 1 E (fielding)
Cody Ransom: 1 for 4, 1 R, 3 K
Ben Broussard: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 3 RBI – walk-off 3-run homer in the bottom of the 8th
Chris Stewart: 0 for 1, 1 R, 2 BB, 1 K
Ian Kennedy: 7 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 K, 10-3 GB/FB – 61 of 92 pitches were strikes (66.3%) … needed one more out to finish up a 7 inning no-hitter (since, apparently, errors count against perfect games, which is retarded because the pitcher can’t control that, unless he’s the one that makes the error), but a Scott Thorman double with 2 outs in the bottom of the 7th ended the bid for the no-no and the shutout all at once … oh well
Scott Strickland: 1 IP, zeroes, 3 K
Mighty Matt: 5 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 9-1 GB/FB – old habits die hard

Game 1 (6-3 loss to Richmond in 7 innings) this was the makeup of yesterday’s rainout
Bernie Castro, Matt Carson, JD Closser, Nick Green & Greg Porter: all 0 for 3 – Castro drew a walk & swiped a bag … Carson, Green & Porter each K’ed twice … Green K’ed once … Porter also threw a runner out at third from RF
Eric Duncan: 1 for 4, 1 2B, 3 K, 1 E (fielding)
Juan Miranda: 1 for 2, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K
Cody Ransom: 1 for 1, 1 R, 1 2B, 2 BB
Ben Broussard: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 HR, 3 RBI
Ross Ohlendorf: 5.2 IP, 9 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 1 WP, 8-4 GB/FB – 67 of 99 pitches were strikes (67.7%) … stretching him back out to a starter is a pretty clear sign that they’re shopping him around as a trade chip
Billy Traber: 0.1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 1 WP – allowed an inherited runner to score
Brian Bruney: 1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K – Chad Jennings mentioned that he didn’t throw his scheduled bullpen yesterday, so he’s still not quite ready to pitch back-to-back days yet

Double-A Trenton (4-3 loss to New Hampshire in 7 innings) the game was completed early because of rain
Reegie Corona: 1 for 4
Ramiro Pena & Cody Ehlers: both 1 for 3, 1 R
Austin Jackson: 1 or 2, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K – hit in 24 of his last 26 games
Chris Malec & Edwar Gonzalez: both 0 for 3 – Edwar K’ed
CColin Curtis: 0 or 2, 1 BB
Joe Muich & James Cooper: both 1 for 3 – Cooper drove in a run … Muich is going to see a lot more action now that PJ Pilittere is out with multiple facial fractures after a freak play in last nights game … PJ’s strength is his ability to work a pitching staff, so I’m going to be paying extra attention to how the pitchers perform while he’s out
Eric Hacker: 5 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 4 K, 1 HB, 4-7 GB/FB, 1 E (pickoff) – consistent 5 inning or less outings for about a month now means one thing: they have him on pitch count to control his innings
Zack Kroenke: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 1-3 GB/FB, 1 E (throwing)

High-A Tampa (2-1 win over Dunedin)
Luis Nunez: 3 for 4, 1 SB
Eduardo Nunez, Seth Fortenberry & Mitch Hilligoss: all 0 for 3 – Nunez K’ed twice … Fortenberry drew a walk & K’ed
Kevin Smith: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 SB – scored the go-ahead run in the bottom of the 8th when he stole home on the front end of a triple steal … uh, wow
Josh Kreuzer: 2 for 4, 1 2B, 1 SB
Andres Perez: 0 for 4, 1 K – threw a runner out at second from RF
Tim Battle: 2 for 3, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 SB
Ivan Nova: 8 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 9-9 GB/FB – 8 runs allowed in his last 36.1 IP (1.98 ERA)
Josh Schmidt: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 2-0 GB/FB

Low-A Charleston had a scheduled off day.

Short Season Staten Island (7-4 win over Jamestown)
Ray Kruml (11), Brian Baisley & Jack Rye (13): all 1 for 4, 1 2B – Kruml scored a run, drove one in & K’ed … Baisley drove in 2 … Rye scored a run, K’ed & got picked off third
David Adams (3): 1 for 5, 1 K
Addison Maruszack (17): 3 for 5, 1 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI
Braedyn Pruitt: 0 for 4, 1 K, 2 E (both fielding)
Jahdiel Santamaria: 3 for 4, 2 R, 1 2B, 1 3B – homer short of the cycle
Taylor Grote: 0 for 3, 1 R, 1 BB, 2 K
Casey Erickson: 5 IP, 7 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K, 5-2 GB/FB
Josue Selenes: 0.1 IP, 2 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 1 K – first runs allowed since May 16th, when he was a fill-in with Tampa
Tim Dennehy: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Pat Venditte (20): 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 1 WP

Rookie GCL Yanks (13-9 loss to GCL Indians)
Corban Joseph (4), Chad Gross (28) & Mitch Delaney (21): all 2 for 5 – CoJoe scored a run, doubled & K’ed … Gross scored two runs, doubled twice, and drove in a pair of runs … Delaney drove in 2, K’ed & committed both a fielding & throwing error
Chris Smith (5): 0 for 4, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K
Jimmy Paredes: 1 for 1 – left the game after sliding into second in the top of the first
Emerson Landoni: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 K
Chase Weems: 0 or 3, 1 K
RJ Baker & Alvaro Ramirez: both 0 for 2 – Baker K’ed … Ramirez drew 2 walks, scored twice & K’ed
Zoilo Almonte & Spencer Lucian (31): both 2 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 K – Almonte drove in 2, Lucian 1
Manny Barreda: 1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 WP
Gabriel Tatis: 2 IP, 6 H, 7 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 1-4 GB/FB
Ryan Flannery (47): 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 2 HB, 6-3 GB/FB
Shawn Joy: 2 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 3 BB, 3 K, 1 WP, 3-0 GB/FB

Open Thread: The Yankees we have, not the Yankees we want
Ich bin ein rotation candidate
  • RichK

    I was at the IPK game, he was great! He was one pitch away from the no-hitter
    and then he got an easy grounder to second and Chris F**cking Basik made his second error and it was after that he gave up the hit to right field which was then
    booted by the right fielder allowing the tying run to score. The crowd was so disgusted (except for the obnoxious Braves fans in back of us). IPK should be back soon to the big league club.

    • giselle

      wow. just wow.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      I have this funny feeling that even at 23-years-old, IPK is going to have that Kyle Farnsworth/Jason Giambi stigma with Yankee fans. Meaning that when he comes back up and does well some Yankee fans will be grinding their teeth trying to nitpick every little thing he does and be all too hesitant in giving him just praise.

      • brockdc

        Going to have? Seems like half the posters on Yankee blogs have him being packaged in a variety of unlikely/idiotic trade scenarios. I personally think he can come back and give the team exactly what Washburn could for the balance of the season.

        • http://everythingbaseball.wordpress.com Aaron

          Agreed. No need for Washburn or another starter. People just need to have a little bit of patience with IPK and they’ll see that he deserves to be in this rotation.

      • Brian

        Yeah, you could be right. All through the minors he pitches toe-to-toe with Joba, stumbles a little on that toe (or his lat muscle, whatever), and gets the shaft. Hopefully an outing or two like this up in the bigs would squash the niggling.

      • RichK

        I think if IPK pitches like he did tonight, they will embrace him just like Moose seems to have us believing in him again. It was not only the results it was that he was so smooth and he worked so quickly. You just didn’t have any time to worry about him. This must have been the type of games he pitched last year to put up those great numbers.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        They had no problem falling in love with Melky after his 2005 showing.

        • daneptizl

          How can you fall in love with Melky….

        • Sherman

          Old habits die hard ehh Mike?
          Sadly, I am starting to agree with you.

          • Andy in Sunny Daytona

            See, Jamal.

      • Ben B.

        He demonstrated a bad attitude in being demoted, Jamal. He can overcome that, with a little more humility when he gets back up to the Majors, but until then, he was kind of a punk, and punks get nitpicked, even when they perform well.

      • Andy in Sunny Daytona

        Jamal, Yank fans are VERY patient.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

          WHY THE FUCK IS MY COMPUTER TAKING THIS LONG TO POST THIS DAMN COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Steve S

        I dont see that at all with Giambi. People thought he was washed up but the minute he starts hitting everyone is on the band wagon again. The guy has been a major dissapointment in light of his contract and the player that he was in Oakland. That doesnt mean he has been bad player but he has been frustrating. But in the end Giambi gets better treatment than Arod per se. And Giambi has admitted cheating and two years ago managed to throw Arod under the bus in a national magazine, in the midst of his body breaking down from PED abuse.

        As for Farnsworth, he has had some bad moments but its becoming apparent this year that Torre completely mishandled him. But fans dont warm relievers that quickly, especially when they unfair model of perfection pitches the ninth inning every night. Ask Billy Wagner how pitching in the same city with the guy has translated into how fans and media treat him.

        Kennedy is going to have a rough time because he doesnt have the flashy stuff and it seems like he has a little sense of entitlement, or at least his comments at the beginning of the season seemed to indicate as much. Results will earn him all the respect from the fans. Which is the way it should be. He just made it harder on himself when he bitched about being sent down after putting up a 9.00 era and not being able to get out of the third inning for a month.

  • brockdc

    Kudos to Ian.

    Mike, do you see Strickland getting a call any time soon? He’s been DEALING. In other words, who gets called up first when LaTroy goes: him or Bruney?

    • Ed

      Bruney is on a rehab assignment. You can only be on one for either 20 or 30 days (depending on how his earlier rehab was handled). At that point, he must be activated from the DL. Bruney is on the 60 day DL, so he’s off the 40 man roster at this point. He’ll need to be added back to the 40 man, so I’m guessing that’s when Hawkins goes.

      Strickland isn’t on the 40 man, so you’d need to make a another 40 man move to get him on.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        They can slide CMW to the 60-day DL retroactively to clear up a 40-man spot.

        • Ed

          Wang’s already on the 60 day. Only Posada and Matsui are on the 15 day, and from the sounds of it, both of them will be on the 15 day for a few more weeks at which point they could return or get surgery (and go on the 60 day).

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

            Chien-Ming Wang is not on the 60-day DL. Unless MLB.com has not updated their roster page, when did you see he was put on the 60-day DL?

            • Ed

              Yahoo Sports has him listed as being on the 60 day DL.

              • Ed

                A little digging on Yahoo’s transaction log says he was moved to the 60 day on June 27th to make roster room for Ponson.

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

                  That’s weird, ESPN has him on the 15-day as well.

                • Alan

                  CBS Sportsline has him on the 60-day.

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

                  Wikipedia, Paragon of Truthiness, has had him on the 60 man for a while.

  • Brian

    Eric Hacker is just like pizza, Ryan Pope, and sex.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      Not touching that one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Great interview by NoMaas with Josh Kalk of The Hardball Times. The interview focuses on Mr. Kalk’s extensive research on the PITCH/Fx data system. Check it out, great read.

    http://www.nomaas.org/kalk.html

    • Ivan

      very intriguing article.

  • jeff

    “hit in 24 of his last 26 games”

    Mike, where do you get this kind of information? milb.com only goes back 10 days with gamelogs, right? Is there a site that has game logs for the entire season?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      yankeesprospects.com has game logs for every player, as well as a bunch of other great stuff.

      • jeff

        Thanks, Mike.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      Mike journals every single Yankee farm game ever. His apartment is chock-full of notebooks like Kevin Spacey’s in “Se7en”.

  • Manimal

    Vendette was stretched to 2 innings and showed that he can handle it.

    Anyone see that minor league fight? 17 ejections, 1 man arrested(tried to throw ball in dugout and missed, hit fan in the face. Fan went to hospital) they had to reverse the ejections so they could finish the game. 1 hour delay.

    • pat

      dude that shit was vicious after throwing the ball into the crowd he was IMMEDIATELY jumped and pummeled

      and mike i actually read the commenting guidelines today and was wondering if you had a policy on talking about stuff from other blogs?

      • Manimal

        seriously, if your going to try to throw in the dugout atleast throw it IN the dugout.

        I don’t think theres a policy against that.

        • pat

          dude reminded me of nuke laloosh

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Yeah, was trying to search for it on YouTube so I could closely see what happened but no one has posted it yet.

      The prosecution will have an interesting case on their hands for that pitcher who was arrested. A fan attending a baseball game has a reasonable expectation to be struck with a baseball. The problem with that is even though the reasonable expectation is there to be hit with a baseball, the actual events in this case that led to the fan being hit can not be reasonably expected.

      A case of criminal negligence can be applied here. That pitcher is in for some serious, serious shit.

      I graduated from a law oriented HS in 2007 so I’m not exactly fresh on my studies. Maybe Ben K. can give us a little more.

      • Manimal

        I was about to say, you studying law or something? Plus don’t ball parks have signs that say “Beware of Foul Balls” Fans sometimes get pummeled by balls I was near a guy in Toronto that got hit on the side of the head. It happens.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          It does happen. The difference in this case is that a reasonable person attending a game can not expect to be struck by a baseball or a foreign object while the game is not in play. The pitcher intentionally threw the baseball to cause harm, he missed his target and accidentally hit a fan. The fact of who he hit does not matter one iota, all that matters is that he intentionally threw the baseball at somebody intending to cause harm. If that can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt then that pitcher is really, really fucked.

          • Manimal

            Can a baseball be classified as a weapon in court?

          • Manimal

            So… Could Roger Clemens have been tried for throwing a sharp bat head at Mike Piazza? What about all the intentional HBP’s to the head?

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

              Impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt what the pitcher’s intentions were. Also, a participating player has a reasonable expectation to get a baseball thrown at him.

      • Manimal

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkA0S0AvGY
        wicked crappy quality but still thought I should post.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          ESPN’s video should be up shortly. Got to love the internet!

          • Manimal

            Seriously. I’m glad I was born now. My parents didn’t even have tv. My dad had to ride donkeys in greece to fetch water for his family.

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

              LoL, my father used to tell me stories about his friends playing baseball in Panama and how like Mariano they use to make gloves out of milk cartons.

              • Manimal

                thats crazy, How old was your dad when he came to america?

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

                  Jeez, I think it was about 1980, or maybe a couple years after that, that would have made him about 20-22.

        • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily Eric SanInocencio

          Holy s**t! They just showed the video on Baseball Tonight. Castroneves tried to throw a missle into the dugout, he could have easily killed someone. It was reported he was arrested and that he faces one case of felonius assault. Wow. Just wow.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        Jamal, are you Lionel Hutz?

        “So, you don’t work on contingency?”
        “NO, MONEY DOWN!”

      • Steve S

        While Im not a criminal attorney you guys are mixing some things up. he was charged with felonious assault. Assault is the intent to cause imminent bodily harm with malice aforethought (i may be off on that). If he fired that baseball at the dugout towards someone and it happened to hit someone else, he is is still criminally liable. Just like if you shoot a gun into a crowd at someone but kill someone else, still murder or attempted murder depending on the result.

        As for the civil liability, guy will get sued no doubt (dont know about either of the teams). There is also civil assault which has lesser elements that must be proven but I think they have both against the pitcher, regardless of the warnings about balls in the stands.

  • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily Eric SanInocencio

    AJax is hitting .542 (13-for-24) since the AA All-Star break. That is beyond on fire. I mean this is just the third full professional season for a kid considered a “raw athlete” when he was drafted. He’s also drawing his fair share of walks. I mean the strides are evident. He still has work to be done, but I think his cemented his status as a top prospect after his strong finish last season.

    • Manimal

      If there was a definition of a player who is streaky, he would be it. Just wait when he 0’fers a week.

      • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily Eric SanInocencio

        He’s 21 and is still growing into his physical ability. I know people’s expectations of him are high, but in reality I don’t know how much more we could ask of him at this point in his career. I understand your concerns though.

        • Manimal

          So is Justin Upton. I understand hes young but he is not as good as most people think he is. I still think hes one of the top prospects in the Yank’s farm system.

      • John

        Is that you Robbie?

      • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily Eric SanInocencio

        To be honest, he hasn’t been that streaky. He’s went hitless in 21 games out of 100. He’s also had hit streaks of 11, 11 and 10 games this year. Yankeeprospects.com has his game by game break down, and he’s been more consistent than you think.

  • Baseballnation

    Ipk can have Ponson spot, or should I say his sot back in the rotation as Ponson has not been as effective as his numbers might suggest.

    • Chip

      Rasner will get bumped first

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  • http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com Mashmore

    http://stats.howesportsdata.com is where I go for my stats — game logs for every player in pro ball.

  • Fuzzy

    Am I the only one who wants to see Ohlendorf with NYY starting instead of “trade bait.” One of the things Cashman does well is do due diligence on his players before trading them. He determined that Tyler Clippard didn’t have the control to be a ML SP for the NYY, and then traded him. Ohlendorf throws 5 pitches including a sinking FB, above average curve, slider, change and split. That doesn’t include the sinking FB with the 4 seam. Jennings (SWB blogger) says that he’s been impressed with his last 2 starts. When we saw him as a reliever he was using only his FB and slider. We need to see what we have here before trading him away.

    • TheLastClown

      I’d be willing to give him a shot, but not against a pitcher we can’t shell. I want this hypothetical *and probably unlikely* MLB Ohlie start to have some run support, so he can relax. He doesn’t seem to do so well under pressure, even using his FB & Slider, his two best pitches by the way. Plus I doubt his velocity will be consistently over 92.

      This was a significant factor in moving him to the pen. His control issues, and the fact that he gains a solid 4-5 MPH on the fastball, and it still has the sinking movement.

      I’m not a pitching expert, but I don’t think he threw a four seamer. The trademark of that pitch is true straight-arrow flight, quickest way from point A to point B & all of that, and I don’t remember seeing Ohlie throwing fastballs without movement. Could be wrong though, I’m definitely not the most astute or knowledgeable fan on here, or watching.

      Correct me if it’s warranted please

    • TheLastClown

      Much rather use him as trade bait though….to actually answer your quesiton

    • A.D.

      Yeah I’m not that high on Ollie, will he probably be a good ML pitcher, sure, but I think we have better options, and he’s best used in a trade

  • Bo

    Ohlendorf is going to Pittsburgh for Marte. Mark it down.

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