Game 126: October baseball in August

Elias Rankings formula cracked
Marshall, Lassiter make their pro debuts

Counting tonight, there are 37 games left in the Yankees’ season. They are currently 6.5 GB of the Wildcard with 6 games left to play against the WC leader. The season is not over. Far from it in fact, no matter how ugly it looks. Go ahead and declare them dead if you wish, but don’t think that the other teams in baseball have so foolishly written them off as well.

You want playoffs, we’ll you got ’em. October starts today.

1. Damon, CF
2. Jeter, SS
3. Abreu, RF
4. A-Rod, 3B
5. Giambi, 1B – but, but, but there’s a lefty on the mound!!!
6. Nady, LF
7. Matsui, DH
8. Cano, 2B
9. Molina, C

And on the mound, Andy Pettitte.

Notes: The Yanks are facing LHP David Purcey (2-3, 5.93 ERA), who they drafted, but did not sign, in the 17th round of the 2003 draft … Joe Nathan lowered his ERA to freaking 1.00 today

Elias Rankings formula cracked
Marshall, Lassiter make their pro debuts
  • phil26687

    “Giambi, 1B – but, but, but there’s a lefty on the mound!!!” – Thank goodness Cashman took Sexy away from Joe…

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      I’m sure when Joe put the lineup card out there, he told the guys “Look, since there’s no more Richie, Jason’s got to play tonight. I know it’s impossible for us to win when Jason takes an AB against a lefty, but it’s out of my hands. Don’t blame me if when we lose 875-0.

  • Ivan

    Even if it’s a 40-1 chance, and even with bad lose after another kills ya confidence piece by piece, gotta keep hope alive.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      Lloyd: What are the chances of a guy like you and a girl like me… ending up together?
      Mary: Well, that’s pretty difficult to say.
      Lloyd: Hit me with it! I’ve come a long way to see you, Mary. The least you can do is level with me. What are my chances?
      Mary: Not good.
      Lloyd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
      Mary: I’d say more like one out of a million.

      Lloyd: So you’re saying there’s a chance!

  • stuart

    this lineup of former stars are not making the playoffs.. WHy can’t anyone just say the truth these former stars are former stars… really they are losing to a team with a lineup of ; scutaro, inglett, barajas, lind, mcdonald, and other assorted junk..

    the blather about how good AJ burnett is is funny considering his ERA is over 4 , face the facts I have the Yanks stink.. there offense is the worst Yankee offense since 1993, that is amazing.. this is a team of former stars the key word is former….

    Arod is a clown and will never win anything and cannot catch a pop fly, jeter is on the downside, and giambi is toast…

    • steve (different one)

      stuart, i say this because i care, you are annoying as f*ck.

  • bill

    WHAT, NO BETEMIT!? BUT HE’S A SWITCH HITTER! Joe Freakin Girardi is the worst when it comes to putting lineups together. He is defintely guilty of overanalyzing this year. If they dont fuckin bomb this bum Purcey, lefty or not, theyre officialy done in my book. I dont want to hear its the first time they faced him, cuz that would mean I would shut the Yankees down the first time I faced them. I’m sick of getting shut down by bums with 5+ ERA’s. Absolutely sick of it ….

  • Ivan

    Was looking at some #’s on Johan Santana today since the people are screaming “see the yanks should of made the trade” and found them rather surprising.

    His K/PA has drop over 6%, his BABIP is .270 and his FIP is a surprising 3.71. That’s right his FIP is one run higher than his actual ERA. In other words he has been rather lucky this season and he pitches in the NL.

    Yes Hughes and Kennedy has pitch very poorly but for the guys who wanna bring up Santana and Yanks made a mistake, need to read the #’s and see the steady decline.

    • bill

      Kennedy is fuckin garbage, those comments infuriated me. He throws slop on the mound and he’s 23 – how is he getting better. By the time he’s 35 if he gets that far he’ll top out at 70 with the fastball. What a joke. And Cabrera stinks. Cashman could have made that trade with Kennedy, Cabrera, Marguez, Hilligloss, and some other guys. Those guys havent done jack shit this year.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        Damn straight, Bill. He’s a fucking garbage picker with a capital Tony Danza. There’s never ever been a 23-year old pitcher who’s struggled in his first 60 innings and ever amounted to shit. Ever. In history.

        Abso-fuckin-a-lutely right. Just like Ol’ Abner Doubleday said, right after he finished inventing baseball, “If you can’t be a dominant pitcher within your first 58 and two-thirds innings, or throw a no-hitter or two before your 21st birthday, you may as well slit your damn wrists right then and there and spare your family the embarrassment that the rest of your life will be, cause you’ll never be worth two splooges on the wall of a Turkish bathhouse.”

        (I may be paraphrasing.)

        • bill

          I would be able to tolerate Kennedy’s struggles if he had upside and threw harder than 86. If he was throwing in the low to mid 90’s, I would say he actually has upside. He’s just not that good. He’ll be another Matt DeSalvo or Tyler Clippard, just more hyped. Even those guys threw harder than Kennedy. I’m sure you Kennedy lovers were big DeSalvo and Clippard fans, already pre-ordering their Yankeeographies.

          • cult of basebaal

            amazing!

            it’s like pitch f/x data didn’t exist and we could never know just how hard kennedy throws an average fastball …

            • steve (different one)

              Cashman could have made that trade with Kennedy, Cabrera, Marguez, Hilligloss, and some other guys. Those guys havent done jack shit this year.

              bullshit.

              • bill

                Bullshit my ass. That was one of the proposed deals.

                • Steve H

                  And who are your sources on that?

                • bill

                  The newspapers

                • Steve H

                  Very trustworthy sources, not that any of the rest of us read them either. You know The Onion isn’t real correct?

                • steve (different one)

                  Bullshit my ass. That was one of the proposed deals.

                  you are wrong.

                  period.

                  Cashman confiormed this on the radio.

                  the ONLY deal with Hilligloss that was EVER mentioned contained Hughes, not IPK.

                  it’s amazing how full of shit you are.

    • r.w.g.

      Can everybody just shut the fuck up about Santana period?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        That’s like asking if ignorance and stupidity can just vanish…

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          I’m serious, how many times are we going to hear “The Yanks could have this and that for that, this, and the other…”? What’s done is done.

        • Ivan

          look on the bright side, you got guys like us.

          • bill

            I’ll stop talking about Santana if you guys shut the fuck up about Kennedy and Cabrera. They suck. Stop defending them, and then I’ll stop talking about Santana.

            • Ivan

              First off Melky was a throw in so forget about him. Second, if you wanted Kennedy traded, then you would have to pair him with Wang or Hughes to get Santana.

              Sure Santana would help in the short term but in the long term considering the years/money plus players and the decline of his performance, why do that trade.

              • bill

                But first admit that Cabrera and Kennedy suck and you would rather have Santana every day rather than those bums.

                • Ivan

                  Cabrera yes isn’t that good of a offensive player but IPK has potential. Yes he has struggled but so does almost every young pitcher.

                  Second, again you were not doing johan for IPK straight up.

                  Lets face it, would you rather have a pitcher decling making huge money and clearly not helping your team in the long run. Sure if you want everything now make that decision but don’t complain when he’s untradable and declining with every year or start.

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

                  If it were just those two that were being asked for then sure, but seeing as how Brian Cashman himself said that the deals were either:

                  Package 1: Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera, and two other prospects.

                  Package 2: Chien-Ming Wang, Ian Kennedy, Melky Cabrera, and a prospect in the lower Minor leagues.

                  I would not do either deal even right now.

            • Ivan

              Leave Ian alone, sure he doesn’t have the best stuff but he can pitch and he has some potential. Look at Kevin Slowey or Jered Weaver. You mean to tell me he can’t performe at that level.

              • bill

                Weaver has better stuff than Kennedy and Slowey will get tattooed soon. His success wont last once major league hitters figure him out.

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

                  What are you basing this on?

                • bill

                  His stuff is awful. The Yankees should have destroyed him when they faced him in Minnesota. I say trade Kennedy for something useful.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

                  Like a young, cost controlled pitcher with an excellent track record and his best years ahead of him?

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

                  Yeah, Mike, now you’re on to something!

                • Ivan

                  Thank you Mike A.

                • mustang

                  “with an excellent track record ”

                  Where? the minors because it’s not in the majors.

                • bill

                  Exactly

                • mustang

                  Bill you have to understand that Hughes and IPK needed this year to develop and it’s ok because now with all the major league experience that they got this year they will lead the Yankees rotation for years to come.
                  You have to remember that they were first rounds picks and highly rank in the holy book of Baseball America that’s what most important here.

                • mustang

                  That’s important and all of A-Rod stats that are not avg. RISP.
                  LOL

                • bill

                  I like Hughes, I understand he needs time. But if you give Kennedy 10 years I still dont think hell be any good. That’s just my opinion.

                • mustang

                  I like Hughes too I just would like to see him on the field.

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

              People take time to develop, relax. Not everyone can be Josh Beckett and storm onto the scene and maintain that same constant success.

              • bill

                Kennedy has no shot at being Beckett at ANY part of his career. He was throwing 86 mph fastballs in Anaheim in that awful start. That’s pathetic. He’s not going to “develop” any velocity, unless he takes steroids. I’m on the record as saying Kennedy will not succeed in the majors. If I’m wrong, laugh at me all you want, and I’ll eat my words.

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

                  Jesus guy, I’m not saying he is going to be Josh Beckett. I’m saying that not every player develops at a quick pace, some take longer than others.

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

                  Damnit Jamal, stop using analogies, you know we’re not smart enough to understand them.

                  WHY THE FUCK IS MY BURRITO TAKING THIS LONG TO COOK IN THIS MICROWAVE!!!!!!?!?!?!?!??!

                • bill

                  I bet you guys are wearing your Ian Kennedy jerseys right now.

                • steve (different one)

                  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

                  oh that is funny.

                  you are a riot. kennedy jerseys.

                  phew. let me catch my breath.

                  please, keep these killer one liners coming.

                • bill

                  I wasnt trying to be funny. They probably are wearing them. I just dont see why you guys like Kennedy so much.

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

                  We don’t like Kennedy that much. We just think your writing off of Kennedy is way too premature.

                  I think anyone who thinks it’s a lock that Kennedy is going to win multiple Cy Youngs is an idiot. And anyone who thinks that he’s never going to be a productive player, like you seem to think, is also an idiot. He’s a 23 year old kid who’s had about three cups of coffee at the big leagues. His ceiling is basically Greg Maddux and his floor is Ed Yarnall. That’s a huge, huge window, and we’ll have to wait and see where in there he’ll end up. There’s plenty of good indicators that point both ways, so BOTH sides need to stop acting like shit is written in stone.

                  Most of the IPK boosters aren’t asking for his HoF induction tomorrow, just that people remember that plenty of really, really, really good pitchers had career resumes just like IPK’s at the age of 23 and the career IP of 58.7

              • Stephen

                Josh Beckett is a great postseason pitcher, and has great stuff, but I wouldn’t call him a GREAT pitcher. He’s been hurt way too much, has only pitched over 200 innings twice in his career, and has had maybe 1 excellent season (2007), with 2003 being very good but he only pitched 142 innings.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Ivan, you know statistical analysis means nothing in this debate.

      • Ivan

        You know not one time this season, I,ve said to myself, that maybe the yanks should of made that trade or the yanks made a mistake. Not once.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          Me neither, but I realized the day that Santana donned that #57 jersey in orange and blue that I would be in the minority of Yankee fans that held that opinion.

  • Ben C

    !!!!

    • Ben C

      funny how that works.. you move the runner to avoid the double play..

      huh

  • Slugger27

    lets get the party started bobby

  • A.D.

    wow, Jeter didn’t gidp, he must be hot

  • Ben C

    now we go K, K, popout

  • A.D.

    this inning has strikeout, followed by double play written all over it

  • Slugger27

    come on arod!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Ah good ol’ David Purcey.

  • Smitt Dog

    Jesus christ Alex

  • A.D.

    Rios arm never ceases to amaze

  • Ivan

    Baby steps I guess.

  • Slugger27

    at least there wont be a goose egg

  • Ben C

    i wonder what our lineup’s splits are with no one on base… they must be staggering

  • A.D.

    X, RBI machine

  • Slugger27

    was that a 2 out rbi hit?

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

    BTW, I noticed that while 99.99% of big league night games start at 7:05pm local time, the Blue Jays games start at 7:07pm.

    That exchange rate is a friggin killer.

    • A.D.

      damn canadian time

      • Whitey14

        Dynamite Drop in tommysmithjohncarlos!

  • BGG2321

    We need a better nickname for Nady. Anything with an X is too obvious. I vote for “warrior poet”cause he’s like Paul O’Neill lite

    • Smitt Dog

      I like that…

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      I vote for Xavier McDaniel.

      Or possibly “Steve, don’t cum yet.”

      • Whitey14

        WTF?

        “You’re as crazy as your Momma!”

    • Nady

      Warrior Princess?

  • NYFan50

    The Yankees have a .757 OPS with the bases loaded, 10th of 14th in the AL. The average is .800.

    • NYFan50

      FWIW, with the bases empty they are 3rd of 14, .782 OPS. The average is .734.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Mike, I downloaded the roster files from Operation Sports but I am having some issues. I transferred them to an USB device which my PS3 reads but the roster files that I unzipped are not showing up on the PS3. Any ideas?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Hmmm. Are they in the PS3 folder? There should be a main PS3 folder with all the draft classes in it. Usually there’s directions in the thread too. Did you unzip them?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        I unzipped them, created a folder called “PS3” on the memory card, put the unzipped folder inside the “PS3” folder and that’s it. Just doesn’t show up on the PS3.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I dunno man. Maybe go back and download them from a different thread. I dowloaded, unzipped, then just copied the stuff that was unzipped on my flash drive. Didn’t have to create a folder or anything.

  • Ivan

    Brett Marshall pitch today.

    1IP 0H, 0R, 0E, 1BB, 1K.

    • A.D.

      bring him up for sat

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Brett Marshall, the Yanks silver medal.

      • Ivan

        Second isn’t so bad.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      I have a bad feeling about Brett Marshall. Not about his talents or anything to do with him specifically, but I’ve already gotten the sense that some idiotic (and loud) fans are going to put the weight of the world on the shoulders of Marshall in order to compensate the loss of Gerrit Cole.

      I swear, if Marshall has one bad year it’s going to be hell.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Nah, most of the LoHud idiots don’t bother to follow the minors. They just bitch about them.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          I was referring to some of the dudes at nyyfans.com. A lot of their guys are great to read, but some, not so much…

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        Considering the way Bill is excoriating IPK, if Marshall has one bad pitch it’s going to be hell.

  • Ivan

    I gotta sport question.

    5 Years from now, who has a better chance to make the playoffs: Detroit Lions or Pittsburgh Pirates?

    • A.D.

      Pirates, they actually have something resembling a defense

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I say the Lions. Pirates are still about 2 years from getting all their talent to the majors, then they’ll need some time to develop further. It’s relatively easy to turn around a football team.

      • Ivan

        Then why the Lions are so bad. Even the Arizona Cardnals turn it around.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          Bad management trumps all.

          “WE ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE…AND WE LET ‘EM OFF THE HOOK!!11!!”

          For the life of me I still can’t figure out what in God’s name he means.

          • Ivan

            Mat Millen sure can decimate a franchise.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      The Lions, and probably this year. Aaron Rodgers is too much of an unknown to be predicting a playoff spot for the Packers. I’m not even in the neighborhood of being sold on Vikings’ QB, Tavaris Jackson.

      LoL @ “DA BEARS”. Epic Fail=Kyle Orton as your Opening Day QB.

      • A.D.

        the lions aren’t making the playoffs, without the Martz fun n’ gun they rely on the o-line and defense….not a good plan for them

      • Ivan

        The Bears were lucky two seasons ago and overachieve. Last year I told people they were not that good and the Bears prove me right. And this year there still not that good.

        Vikings are really the best team in that division but Tavaras Jackson I don’t trust.

        • A.D.

          Tavaras Jackson didn’t cut it as the QB at Arkansas, thus he transferred, why does he have a job in the NFL?

    • Slugger27

      i gotta say lions… the way the nfl is set up, the league almost forces u to be good after a while, the pirates just blow

    • Ivan

      I go Lions too but I do not trust Matt Millen.

    • Old Ranger

      The Lions, whole new offence (gap running), 2 to 5 step drops, good Q-back and monsters to throw to with quick slots. Good quick defence and D-backs another year running the cover 2. Yes, the Lions will be the ones to make the play offs. 27/09?

  • A.D.

    Brett Wallace, the cards #1 pick was called up to AA today…looks like the wood bat is treating him well

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Best hitter in the draft in my opinion. I feel validated.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Did Michael Kay just drop a Payless reference? Weak.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    It’s sad when David Eckstein still looks like a little girl throwing from second base.

  • pat

    a badass pitcher like nolan ryan would put one in your earhole if you stood outside the on base circle and tried to time his pitches

  • http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com steve

    Andy Pettitte’s hat: Does a joke even need to be made or is it pretty self-explanatory?

  • Smitt Dog

    What is that shit on Pettites hat?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      I thought you gave up the season? ;)

  • Smitt Dog

    I’m a glutton for punishment… I’ve still given up hope, but can’t tear myself away.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Lazy bitch…

  • pat

    booya robbie

  • bill

    Wow. Nice play by Cano. He’ll be the next Roberto Alomar if he keeps his head on staight and gives consistent effort.

    • r.w.g.

      And then we can trade him for Santana.

      Am I right?

      • bill

        Just cuz I want to trade Kennedy doesnt mean I feel that way about all the young players. I love Cano, no homo.

    • Ivan

      You do know you are comparing him to HOF player, who at his peak was a top ten player.

      • bill

        I know, but Cano has the talent to live up to that billing. He has the potential to win multiple batting titles and possibly multiple gold gloves if he gives the effort.

  • A.D.

    Does anyone buy the Beckett “slept on his arm story” clearly he gets into “the stranger” a bit to much

  • A.D.

    haha, alex thought he struck out

  • pat

    lyle overbay loves fucking over arod

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Lyle Overbay makes a nice throw and a good catch in fair territory, and apparently that’s enough for Kay to call him an outstanding fire basemen.

    • A.D.

      i think its the combo of Kay, and seeing some of the defense by current yankee 1B

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Who’s that douchebag wearing an umpire polo shirt?

  • Ivan

    You know if that was Eckstein, it would be considered Gritty and gutty but for A-Rod it’s a moronic play.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      So true. If it was Dustin Pedroia it would have been about him making the most out of his body and talent, trying to give the Red Sox every chance.

      BTW…

      http://djpostl.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/slappysox.jpg

      • A.D.

        awesome picture

      • Smitt Dog

        I love it. Send that to Bristol, see if they cover that on Baseball (in Boston) Tonight

  • A.D.

    Trenton has the old 1 run on no hits

  • Ivan

    Man Cano looks so slick with that play. But to Pete Abe, he just trying to look cool.

    • pat

      pete abe.. closet douche

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Heh, Clay Buchholz is working exclusively from the stretch apparently.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Why are they messing with him so much? You think they are screwing with him a bit too much here?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Who cares, let them mess with him. Supposedly they raised him arm slot a bit when he was demoted earlier in the year, and he lost velocity and command. They’re still trying to correct it.

        Just leave the kids alone, just because it’s not textbook doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

        • Ivan

          Every time I see Buchholz, I just worry alot with Hughes struggling like that.

      • pat

        on the contrary jamal, I think they’re not screwing with him enough

      • Sam P.

        He’s trying to *steal* a page from Rivera’s book. Haha.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Heh, well played.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Has pessimism become a lifestyle choice now?

  • A.D.

    big g showing some glove

  • A.D.

    wow hit and run with Jose

  • Ivan

    Nice exucution on the Hit and Run.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    “A nice job by Purcey backing up third. Hey Al, did you ever forget to cover a base when you played, and you felt so bad about it that you wanted to cry?”

  • Smitt Dog

    Orioles coming back slowly…

    If I can’t see the Yanks in October, at least I hopefully wont have to see those cock-target wearing child-molesters from Boston…

    • Ivan

      The Capt.

  • A.D.

    wow, Jeter really is on fire

  • zzzzz

    rumors of derek jeter’s demise have been greatly exaggerated.

  • dkidd

    isn’t jeter’s career average at rogers center like .380?

  • A.D.

    Garcia has a nice 3 innings so far

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Derek Jeter now has an 8-19 HR/GIDP ratio this year.

    • Ivan

      It was too good to pass up uh.

  • bill

    Jeter is turning his season around, starting to hit the ball with more authority. It might be too little too late though.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Wait, has pessimism become a lifestyle choice now?

      • bill

        No, I just cant see this team making a big enough run. I’m optimistic about next year and the young talent in the minors (except Kennedy).

  • Ivan

    Where would you guys rank Jeter with the great SS in MLB history?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Well, definitely behind Honus Wagner. I think you can made a case that he’s ahead of Ripken and Banks.

      • pat

        also behind arod

      • Ivan

        Maybe top five?

        • pat

          looked up a list outta curiousity first one that came up on google and he was ranked eighth behind a few people that ive never heard of

          1. Alex Rodriguez
          2. Honus Wagner
          3. Barry Larkin
          4. Lou Boudreau
          5. Robin Yount
          6. Luke Appling
          7. Arky Vaughan
          8. Derek Jeter
          9. Joe Cronin
          10. Cal Ripken Jr.

      • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        No way. Ripken is definitely better

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

          Ripken had a better peak. Slightly, but not far better. But he fell off sharply, and was a league average player or worse for the ENTIRE second half of his career.

          If Jeter plays even slightly as long as Ripken did, he’ll be better than Ripken, easily.

          Ripken is probably one of the most overrated players in the recent history of the game.

          • Old Ranger

            Amen! 27/09?

  • pat

    i got here a little late but have kay and cone made references to A)Fordham or B) Cone Stadium?

  • mustang

    Jeter 3 for 3, HR, 2 RBI, 2 R.

    Isn’t funny how the cream always rises to the top this time of year.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      A-Rod has ranked in the top five in Home Runs and OPS basically all season, what does that mean?

      • pat

        u cant hold a good jeet down

        • steve (different one)

          Isn’t funny how the cream always rises to the top this time of year.

          i’m sorry but this is retarded.

          where the f*ck was he when they were digging themselves INTO this mess?

          every single game is worth the exact same amount. you can’t have a shitty season and get hot in the last 5 weeks and be considered some sort of god for that.

          well, i guess you can, as long as everyon eis named mustang.

          • mustang

            No he is “considered some sort of god” because of how many times come through. And that he has the ability to get hot the last 5 weeks.
            What has your boy done? If he could get hot the last 5 weeks they probably be out of mess so please.

      • mustang

        Not that much when he can’t hit himself out of paper bag when men are in scoring position.

        I call it ” THE BLACK HOLE “.

        • mustang

          But don’t worry they are up 5-0 it’s A-ROD TIME.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Okay, that made me laugh.

  • Ivan

    Yo Buchholz has thrown 54 pitches, 28k’s-26BB.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Oh, did you guys hear that the last time the Yanks were in Toronto, there was a chick standing behind the glass in nothing but a thong? Our dude Manimal was there.

    http://ballhype.com/story/national_world_topless_woman_at_jays_game/

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That should be an amenity at the New Stadium. Tier Reserved Strippers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    I get a headache every time the word “good” and “David Eckstein” are used in the same sentence.

    • pat

      did people hate on eckstein so much before fjm? I feel like they’re solely responsible for starting it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        I’m sure they did, it’s just more out in the open now. Before FJM, if you criticized old baseball traditionalist then you were considered a commie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Kevin Youkilis apparently had a mental lapse. I didn’t think white guys with un-groomed beards were capable of such.

    • Ivan

      not enough sex, but then again he forget about that.

    • Ivan

      Seriously, youkilis has to be in the top 5 most ugliest baseball players right now. Fuck it top three.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Sam Cassell, Kevin Youkilis, and the Brazilian futbol player, Ronaldinho, are the ugliest dudes in sports right now.

        Ronaldinho: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ronaldinho061115.jpg

        • Joe

          SAam Casell? Were talking about people, not creatures in the sloth family

        • Ivan

          Cassell is in the HOF when it comes to ugly players.

          You gotta put Montumbo too.

          • pat

            WHO WILL SEX MUTUMBO?

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              MUTUMBO WANT HUG.

  • Nady Nation

    There we go O’s

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    6-4 Orioles, Coco Crisp went over the wall trying to catch the HR by Ramon Hernandez.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Oh man. A mustache AND yellow sunglasses? The Big G is kickin’ it 1970’s style. Hide your daughters, fellas.

    • Ivan

      Look like a damn Porno star.

      • Joey

        love how you capitalized Porno, lol

  • Nady Nation

    Unrelated, but I have to share my jubilation with my fellow fantasy footballers now that Steven Jackson has ended his holdout after he fell to me with the SEVENTH pick in one of my drafts. Hi-ohhhhh (I’m very aroused)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Jesus, seventh? Not a lot of RB’s taken in the first six or just some over drafting of other RB’s?

      • Nady Nation

        Well actually, this league I’ve been doing with my boys for 9-10 years now, and we actually use the rare 2 QB format. We’ve never changed it b/c it really makes our league unique and changes up the strategy and we love it. So Brady and Peyton went in the top 6, but Addai and Westbrook went before SJ b/c people were afraid of the holdout.

  • Mike W.

    I am watching this and just thinking to myself how weird the batting average stat is. If Jeter were to have a sick final month and a half and get his average up to .310 – .315, does that mean that he had a good season. I love Jeter as a ballplayer as much as the next person, but I really think he has had a dreadful season. In the eyes of most people, if he gets his average up to that level, does that make it a good season? I am guessing that most people are going to say that is why you have to wait for a full season to play out? I don’t know…

    • Nady Nation

      I completely hear what you’re saying, but I think the answer lies somewhere in the middle. I don’t think it should be considered a good season, but if he finishes at .315 that means he will be raking for a month and a half. It would be extremely hard to call a .315 season a dreadful one

      • Mike W.

        Good point.

        • Stephen

          Only if he gets his slugging up 30 or 40 points

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Clay Buchholz is 0-6 with an 8.62 ERA & .972 OPS against since May 7th. He’s turned everyone into Manny Ramirez.

    • Ivan

      Good for us.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Michael Kay, epic stupidity.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Heh, that should be the thread title over at NoMass. :)

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    “I don’t understand it.”

    “The sun’s setting, Michael.”

    Haha.

  • Mike W.

    Also, I missed the matchup earlier in the thread, but just wanted to throw my two cents in. I love the Yanks. I love that they are trying to develop some young players. But, in my opinion, IPK is not anything more than a major league 5. I really don’t want to have people calling me names or anything, but can anyone rationally tell me why we should have so much hope with this guy? I am just asking because I don’t see it. What does he do that gives you hope?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Good command of all four pitches, above average (with reports of “plus” potential) Changeup, Major League average Fastball, and high pitching IQ.

      • Mike W.

        Is the knock on him now, then, that he is just scared to pitch in the Majors? I don’t see him with good command of anything in the majors. Is it just a situation where he needs someone to slap him in the face and say, just f’ing pitch?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          I have no idea why he isn’t showing that command that gave him the hype he has and the track record he developed throughout his college and Minor League years, but that is the reason he has struggled.

          Like I said earlier, some guys just need a bit more time than others to adjust. There’s nothing wrong with that. Some fans have the patience to deal with that, others don’t.

          • r.w.g.

            My huge beef with Kennedy is his attitude. I don’t like it when a player is not only unproven, but completely fucking awful, and then acts like it’s not a big deal.

            Watching him on television, I don’t know if I agree with the scouting grades you threw up there on his ‘stuff’. Maybe when every last thing in his arsenal is ‘on’.

            Kennedy has time to get better but I’m really not expecting much. I mean, what rounds were Alex Graman and Brad Halsey drafted in?

            • cult of basebaal

              i like the way kevin goldstein put it in a recent chat over at Prospectus (paraphrasing)

              “last year, half the yankees fans thought i was crazy for saying Kennedy’s ceiling was only ‘a four’ … this year, the other half are saying i’m crazy for saying his ceiling is even a four.

              that seems about right to me, with command …

              • Old Ranger

                Pitchers (or any-other sports person) that have blown away the opposition all the way up the ladder, don’t know how different it is in the show. Now one finds that the batters are knocking him around like a ping pong ball, at first it is; I didn’t hit my spots well, etc. It is hard for some very good athletes to admit they are among their equals, or in some cases, their betters.
                Been there, done that, have seen others go through the same thing. The smart ones’ figure it out, IPK will too. 27/09?

    • pat

      first thing that comes to mind is that he went to the same college as randy johnson and mark prior and put up better all around numbers

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Holy crap, Joe Mauer has a 38-68 K/BB ratio.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      One of my favorite players in the game.

    • Ivan

      That’s impressive.

      I know All-Star catchers are like running backs but when you have a catcher like Mauer, McCann and Weiters, your franchise just seem set

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        God dammit it’s Wieters!!!

        ;)

        • Ivan

          Sorry.

  • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    there’s grittiness for ya…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Watching the NBA Finals, Mike Tirico said Sam Cassell was one of those guys that no matter how old he is and where he is in his life, he would be one of those guys you see in Rucker Park just trying to get in a game everyday.

    Now, for those of us who grew up in NYC and went to the concrete basketball courts, is that really something nice to say about somebody? Because honestly, we all know that type of guy. The dude that has the hoodie on in like 85-degree weather and drinking bottled liquor out of a brown paper bag with a pair of fucked up Uptowns or FILA’s. Sam Cassell has “that guy” written all over him.

    • Ivan

      Word. I know what ya saying.

      Cassell is one of those people, who you look at and say to ya self, why is so ugly?

    • Joe

      You guys have concrete basketball courts in NYC? Growing up in the upstate portion of NY we only had the grass courts and peach baskets to play with, but then again we are not a as cosmopolitan as you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Dude, we hung peach baskets to the trees alongside the sidewalk if there wasn’t a park nearby.

        Also, NYC is famous for the concrete b-ball courts.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          We used to rip the baskets down to keep everyone off the basketball courts so we could play hockey on the smooth concrete.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

            Where the hell you grew up, people would have hunted you mofo’s down for doing that shit around where I live. ;)

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              Nah, there was always more of us then them.

              • Ivan

                Yeah it be 100 of ya guys to do that.

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

                  I’m sayin’.

                  But this dude seems smart enough to know when/where not to do that shit.

                • Joe

                  What? Hockey players are the toughest guys on the planet

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

                  This was long before Bergen Beach blew up, back then there weren’t many other kids around besides us. Plus we only did it to one court, there were like, 3 others.

        • Ivan

          Word. That is why NYC is called the Mecca of basketball.

    • pat

      hahaha u can definately see what he was trying to say. I think he was tryin to stress his love of the game not olde english and coogie hoodies

  • Ivan

    Man Vernon Wells has fallen off.

    Giving him superstar money when in reality he’s a very good player.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      And an inconsistent one at that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    10-4 O’s on a Melvin Mora three run jack.

    • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      why would someone put a lefty against a guy like Mora?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    How do you pronounce it, WE-Ters or WHY-Ters?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      WE-ters. Rhymes with “beaters.”

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        And is it MEL-Ahn-Sin, or MEH-Lan-Sin?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Muh-LAN-sin.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

            “Is it HOE-Keh-Var, HOE-Che-Ver, or GHI-LKJ-JgGjJkL”?

            – Michael Kay

            • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

              which one of the first two is it? the first one right?

              • r.w.g.

                Ho-shay-ver.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              Ho-shaver.

              Another amenity the New Stadium should have. ;)

              Yuck.

              • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

                LOL

        • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

          I think its Muh-LAN-sin

    • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      WE-Ters

  • bill

    Wow. Arod goin with the glasses. Lets see if it works.

    • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      hey look he made contact…

      • bill

        I thought it was a hit at first. Are you that guy that has his own blog?

        • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

          yeah

          • bill

            I really like the work you did – especially the prospect lists/reports. Top notch stuff.

            • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

              thanks.

  • A.D.

    arod is all over the place throwing

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Holy crap moly, Mora has the 5th most RBI in the AL. How the hell did that happen?

    • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      simple: ‘roids.

      (no, i didn’t actually mean that…)

    • Ivan

      Not to mention the O’shave the third best offense in the AL.

      • pat

        when godzilla walks he crustaceans

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    IPK’s line tonight: 5.0-IP, 7-H, 4-R/ER, 1-BB, 9-K

    With the amount of hits, lack of XBH (one triple), and good control (66% of his pitches for strikes), I would probably say Scranton’s defense let him down a bit.

    • Ivan

      love the K/B ratio.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Remember, they told him to work on his two-seamer and curveball, not worry about throwing 7 shutout innings. Jennings says he was just missing with those two pitches all night.

      • Ivan

        not good.

        • whozat

          These are his two weakest pitches. The fact that he’s around the plate with them is GOOD. The fact that he’s willing to keep throwing them despite missing is GOOD. It means he’s doing what he’s supposed to do to get better.

  • steve

    man, mlb.tv needs to get some new commercials, they keep repeating the damn aquos tv one …. “a screamer down the line that’ll singe your nostrils !”

    • Joe

      “Hi! This is Victor Martinez”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      That is annoying. Coco Crisp is pretty funny in the Shop.MLB.com commercial though.

      • Joe

        I think I like Coco Crisp just because of the look he’s got on his face during that commercial

    • Joe

      They just played that fucking commercial two times in a row

  • bill

    Nice hitting by Matsui. He was on the ball all night.

  • Ivan

    The unlucky season for Cano continues.

    • bill

      I was just thinking that. Do you think he will have a better season next year, and how good do you think he can be? I think he can be Alomar good.

      • Ivan

        I wouldn’t say Alomar because Alomar was a legit top ten player when he played. Nevertheless, Cano to me will bounce back and I still think he can be a very good 3 hitter.

  • Marc

    I don’t think I can handle the mlb.tv commercials anymore… “How do you want to see the game?” 20 seconds later… “How do you want to see the game?”

    • steve

      i just said taht ! see what i mean ! hah

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Michael Kay, if that obviously is the caveat, shouldn’t you then shut the fuck up about making such a big deal about it?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    You know, why did Girardi take Pettitte out? Now I have to listen to Kay second guess it.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Wow, might we really be looking at consecutive games clocking in at under 2.5 hours?

    Manageable.

    • A.D.

      as if there were no cable commericals

      • pat

        theres a chance, it will go down to the wire

  • pat

    anybody know what happened to skippy the kid who used to sit down the left field line at yankee stadium? He used to have the best hands out of any of those people I’ve ever seen. He was like a highlight reel in foul territory.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Austin Romine is really doing all he can right now (hit his 8th HR tonight), but when you have Jesus Montero as your rival, what can you really do?

    • Ivan

      word. Romine no matta what he will be Scottie Pippen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Melvin Mora has 47-RBI since the All-Star break. Yes, Melvin Mora.

  • D.B.

    Lassiter debut 3 for 4 and a RBI hes gonna be daddy one day…

    • Ivan

      GCL?

      • Joe

        Brett Marshall in a game as well

      • D.B.

        yeah and kyle hit a HR

    • bill

      I think Lassiter is a better prospect than Angelini

  • Ivan

    2 outs away from an out.

    • pat

      haha … win?

      • Ivan

        yea my bad.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

    I figured out what Xavier Nady‘s nickname should be:

    Billy Baldwin.

  • pat

    wow those are some nice ass seats ransom just landed in… dammit kay u said it before i could finish typing

  • Slugger27

    good game boys… and great game captain

  • Marc

    Ballgame over…Yankees win. Theeee YYYYYAAAANNKKEEEEEEEES Win!

  • bill

    BALLGAME OVER! YANKEES WIN! THEEEEEEEEE YANKEES WIN!! Theyre still alive.

  • Marc

    Ahaha I beat you at being cliche and cheesy

  • bill

    You cant say I copied you cuz we both posted it at 9:32.

  • pat

    i missed it what happened between jeter and kjones?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      She mentioned a pre-game meeting the team held, DJ was not aware the media was aware of the meeting.

      • pat

        ahh ok so she was the dude playin the dude disguised as another dude?

      • Ivan

        maybe just maybe for the 100th time, they might turn the corner.

        • pat

          lets hope bro, boston is getting knicked up like crazy, TBay is showing some signs of weakness we need to bust out in a big way

  • D.B.

    Montero, Romine twice and laird are beasttsss.

  • Stephen

    On the plus side, Clay Buchholz has been terrible this year. I think it’s safe to say Joba’s the better pitcher.

  • bill

    I’m watchin Yankeeography:Yankee Stadium. Its gonna be sad to see the old ballpark go. The Mystique and Aura, the Ghosts of Yankee Stadium, will be gone with the rubble. Its too late now, but I think we shouldve kept the old ballpark.

  • yankeefan91

    im watching it to its kinda sad that theres only 16more home games left i was dere saturday and i felt really sad but going next week