Game 132: Winning would be a good idea

On the Red Sox's final trip to Yankee Stadium
Hughes rights the ship

I hate to say that the Yankees ever have to win a game, but I think, for tonight, I’m going to go with this one: If the Yankees don’t win tonight, it will be extremely hard for them to make the playoffs. Of course, even if they do win tonight, it’ll still be extremely hard for them to make the playoffs.

Left to the task of winning tonight’s game is Sidney Ponson. The Aruban is 3-3 with a 5.46 ERA while on the Yankees, and his WHIP remains a lofty 1.61. He last faced the Red Sox on July 3rd and gave up seven earned runs in four innings. The Yanks are going to need a better effort from Ponson tonight.

Opposing Sir Sidney will be Paul Byrd. The righty, a post-deadline acquisition for the Red Sox, is 1-1 with a 5.40 ERA in 13.1 innings for Boston. On the season, he’s 8-11 with a 4.61 ERA. While Byrd bounced the Yanks from the playoffs last year, he’s been far less successful this year. Against the Bombers, he is 1-1 but with a 6.75 ERA. He has allowed six Yankee home runs in 12 innings this year. Slugfest, anyone?

Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A. Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
I. Rodriguez C

Ponson P

Repeating History:Yes, Jason Giambi and Alex Rodriguez are still hitting back-to-back in the lineup. Giambi since the All Star Break is hitting .232/.355/.414 with six home runs, but he’s gone deep twice against Byrd this season.

A “God Bless America” Brouhaha: Deadspin has an alarming report about a fan who got roughed up by the cops and kicked out of the Stadium last night after failing to show what the police officers viewed as proper respect for Kate Smith. We covered this issue in May of 2007, but this development sounds like one ugly incident.

On the Red Sox's final trip to Yankee Stadium
Hughes rights the ship
  • E-ROC

    When was the last time Giambi had a “day off”? That might explain things. Still, Giambi should be moved.

    I don’t think there will be a slugfest. Ponson will throw a gem.

    Will Jody Gerut be a free agent this off-season?

    • bill

      Are you serious? Ponson a gem? This has to be a slugfest for the Yankees sake because Ponson will definately give up a fair share of runs. 6.92 ERA career against the Sox and Big Papi has a lus .400 BA against Sir Sidney

  • Manimal

    Funny story, my cooking class teacher realized my name was Manny and asked me how I felt about Manny leaving Boston. “I’m a yankees fan so I could care less” Then she told me a story about how her son went to yankee stadium and got beamed with a drink in his head and immediately got asked by the police if he wanted to press charges. are the po-po that strict?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Wait, you take a cooking class?

      • Steve

        Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

      • Manimal

        its an elective. Its better than the other ones trust me. Atleast I get food from this one.

  • giselle

    i dunno, ben, i’d say we’re in for a pitcher’s duel tonight.

    • Manimal

      This was the game that could go either way I really thought that the yankees were going to win game 1 and 3 but NOOOOO. Arod had a different plan.

      • E-ROC

        I guess you don’t have a short term memory like a cornerback.

      • Steve

        Thats why I think this series has sweep written all over it. We HAD to have that first game, I don’t like us facing Lester in the daytime tomorrow.

  • Ivan

    Alot of media outlets and fans were getting on A-Rod today.

    A-Rod needs to step up and shut these people the fuck up.

    I still got faith in A-Rod, but I have to admit some of that confidence was lost after last night.

    Nevertheless A-Rod is our best player and the best MLB player and while he has struggled in critical spots this seasons, he can turn it around.

    A-Rod needs to stop with the BS and go out there and kick some mothafuckin ass. Ya better than that.

    Tonight I think A-Rod is gonna do some good things tonight. It’s a clean slate for him and the yanks tonight. Lets go Yanks.

  • Jake H

    Yanks need a good outing tonight by Sidney.

    • Steve

      Thank you, Captain Obvious.

    • bill

      They probably wont get one, which is why they should score off Byrd

  • Ivan

    The good thing is that Paul Byrd suck so, I would be surprised/piss if the yanks don’t beat the shit out of Paul Byrd.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    This season and his inaugural Yankee season are the only two seasons A-Rod has hit under .300 w/RISP and two outs. These two seasons are also the only two seasons where A-Rod hit under .290 w/RISP overall. So to say anything other than “A-Rod has been one of the major reasons the Yankees have made the postseason during his tenure in New York” is wrong.

    • DP

      One could argue “A-Rod was the #1 reason the Yankees made the postseason in 2007”

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      Jamal: Nobody is saying that ARod is anything other than the main reason we made the postseason.

      They (and now I) are saying we need him to to more. Because he can.

      Stating that he’s really good overall doesn’t change the fact that he’s frequently been far from good. His standard is higher.

  • Ivan

    Yo Jamal you watching the Phil hughes start?

    • Steve

      oooooh Thanks for reminding me. Punching up the radio feed as we speak.

  • Steve

    Scuse me, I gotta take a leak.

  • DP

    How many times is Michael Kay gonna doubt Girardi for saying 2 out of 3 is necessary. It clearly is. The players know it. If they can’t handle the pressure of that, they wouldn’t be in the majors. Mariano, I can’t wait until ESPN takes him full time.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Here’s a nice stat for you: Roy Halladay leads AL starters with a 2.11 GB/FB ratio. Who’s second? That would be Sir Sidney, at 2.04.

    http://tinyurl.com/5rassc

    • Steve

      Thats a glittering example of how little GB/FB ratios tell you.

      Gotta watch the games, people.

      • Accent Shallow

        Bobby’s like a gun turret in RF. Immobile, has a cannon.

  • bill

    Mike: Do you know what kind of stuff Nik Turley has, and do you think he can be a prospect?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      No, and sure.

      • Steve

        We will just never, ever develop another lefty it seems.

        BTW-Any update on Bleich’s elbow? The thought was he might be hurt worse than we knew since he signed so cheap.

  • Steve

    Speaking of prospects, you just gotta love Boras and his Alvarez bullshit.

    Hopefully, the Pirates will go back to skipping Scotts clients and some of them will fall to us.

    • bill

      What did he do with Alvarez? I thought the Pirates signed him

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Boras is saying Alvarez won’t report until the Pirates renegotiate the deal and give him more money. He wants the extra $200K to surpass Buster Posey’s bonus, the largest given out this year, and the largest straight bonus ever.

        • bill

          They already signed. He cant pull that shit

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That’s really messed up. Boras’ rep has taken a major hit the last 2 years or so. The guys still gets his clients paid, but teams aren’t taking his bullshit any more.

      • Steve

        Especially when dealing with the low budget Pirates. They wouldn’t even deal with him for years (a Fmr Pirate Exec came up with the slotting system) and suffered as a result, drafting sub par talent. Now they try to rteverse course with the new GM and this shit happens.

        Chances are it blows over and goes nowhere legally, but its just so unseemly. But hey, that’s Scott. We all remember last years WS-ARod fiasco.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          And Dice-K. And Moustakas.

  • bill

    This could get ugly for Ponson. Bad pitcher + added pressure = DISASTER

  • E-ROC

    Ugh, Ortiz’s numbers against Ponson.

  • Ivan

    When did Ortiz became Vlad with that scouting report.

  • E-ROC

    No shock there. Ortiz owns Ponson.

  • bill

    Great start for Ponson

  • Ivan

    Just chill guys, it’s early and it’s not like Roy Halladay is pitching against us.

  • E-ROC

    Mike, thought’s on Luis Sumoza? Player acquired by the Braves.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I no knowing about the guy, the first time I ever heard his name was today.

    • bill

      I saw his numbers the other day. He has 9 homers in Short Season. I think he’s pretty good

  • Ivan

    There you go Ponson.

  • bill

    Youkilis really shouldve crushed that pitch

  • E-ROC

    Ponson hitting 94 on the gun on ESPN.

  • Manimal

    Nady+Damon have more balls than all the other yankees combined.

  • E-ROC

    Tough break there. Nady tried like hell to get to that ball.

    • bill

      So much for the gem you predicted

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        It’s the first inning, relax. He can still throw 7 innings of 2 run ball for all we know.

        • bill

          Yeah. Right. At least we get to face Byrd. We really should blast him

  • Ivan

    okay not good.

  • Ian Kennedy = Wade Taylor

    The fact Ponson is starting this game is all the more reason that Brian Cashman
    should be serving his final season as GM. Let’s hope Byrd doesn’t throw a 5 hitter
    against the Yanks. For some reason their lineup seems incapable of hitting pitchers
    that throw 78 MPH instead of 90 MPH.

    • BigBlueAL

      LOL. Just laughing at your name, funny shit!!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Ponson is starting this game because Wang is hurt. Cashman did not actively seek out Ponson in the offseason and say “this guy is going to be one of our starters.”

      Comprende?

    • Ivan

      Gee it’s not his fault that he can’t tell the future.

  • giselle

    bay has become a rbi machine. damn him!

  • bill

    I had enough of Poison. Bring in Aceves

  • E-ROC

    Start pitching inside.

  • Ivan

    Good luck Varitek trying to get a Posada deal.

    • giselle

      he produces outs even after a base hit.

  • E-ROC

    What? Abreu accurate with the throw to home?!! Nice.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Way to not show the play at the plate, YES.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    Gotta praise YES’ camera work there. They utterly missed that play.

    • Steve

      But they have 12 cameras!

  • BigBlueAL

    Abreu with the chooch.

  • Manimal

    I wonder how much the fact Arod got a missed a HR-call had to do with MLB rushing the instant replay. How embarassing is it that they took away a hr from the potential HR king.

  • BigBlueAL

    The audio for the YES broadcast on my MLB package isnt working so I have to watch the ESPN feed if I want to listen to audio. Actually watching the YES broadcast w/o audio would be a blessing for most of you guys here who hate Michael Kay….

  • Steve

    Mike, you see the BA article about the 2 Cuban teens that defected? One’s a interesting lefty.

    There was also something in Pinstripes Plus about the Yanks signing 2 Venezuelan 16 year olds.

    • Steve

      Heres the Cuban kid

      Posted Jul. 31, 2008 10:24 am by John Manuel
      Filed under: International

      Two Cuban teens have left the Cuban team at the Junior World Championships in Edmonton and are apparently defecting. Here’s the scoop on the two players from BA’s scouting contacts.

      The pitcher is lefthander Noel Arguelles, who has pro size at 6-foot-3, 195 pounds. Scouts describe him as tall and lanky with a live arm, with a fastball with natural cutting action and sink. One source wrote that Arguellez sits around 90 mph in his Serie Nacional appearances. He’s thrown as hard as 93 mph and works primarily off his fastball, with more rudimentary curveballs and changeups. His curve has shown potential, however. His exact age isn’t known, though the cutoff for Junior events is 18. Arguellez pitched in Cuba’s Serie Nacional, and according to baseballdecuba.com, he went 3-2, 5.82 with 22 strikeouts in 21.2 innings for the Havana Cowboys this past season.

      Arguelles, whose name was misspelled on this blog previously, was pegged as a first-round talent were he draft-eligible by both scouts as well, as both confirmed BA’s earlier scouting report. “It’s a three-quarters slot with a clean stroke,” the scout said. “He’s very intriguing.” Another scout said Arguelles reminded him in some ways of Twins lefty Francisco Liriano.

      • Steve

        Here’s the Venezuelan kid

        Yankees sign 16 year old Venezuelan CF 5 tool prospect Erickson Lianaro

        The talk is he is a premium 5 tool CF, the Yankees view him as a more athletic Jose Tabata more info later as it comes. I guess this is the guy Carlos Rios hinted about.

        scouting report makes comparisons to Marquis Grissom, Andruw Jones, and Jose Tabata

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I missed that, but I usually don’t get too into the international free agents. Unless one of the Cubans was Yuliesky Gourriell, I’m not too interested.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Christ, where the fuck is that pitch? It was in the damn batter’s box.

  • BigBlueAL

    OMG on the K-Zone on ESPN that pitch wasnt even nowhere near the corner.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    That’s the exact same fucking spot Jed Lowire got a called ball on.

  • Jake H

    Umps blow this series.

  • bill

    Ponson didnt get the exact same call. This a repeat of last nights bullshit

  • Joey

    Come on umps, are we going there again?

  • giselle

    holy fucking shit. wasnt that pitch to damon called a ball for lowrie? i hate umpires. i’m so glad that instant replay is starting this week, cause it will pave the road for robots and lasers deciding the strikezone.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Amen. MLB umpiring has gotten embarrasingly bad the last few years.

      • BigBlueAL

        I guarantee you if I umped Yankees games you guys would LOVE my strikezone!!!!

  • Manimal

    the amica pitch zone is so biased and they still said it was 2 feet outside.

  • Manimal

    this inning is truly the “Anything you can do I can do better” except the yankees are falling flat on their faces.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Jesus Christ, this umpire is such a douchebag.

    • bill

      It seems all of them are lately, especially agaist the Yanks. Maybe Selig told them he doesnt want the Yankees in the playoffs

  • bill

    I really want these umps to die painfully. MLB should really consider hologram strike zones. The umps have done an AWFUL job this year

  • Manimal

    Girardi is going to blow a lid.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Good, cheers for A-Rod. There’s still a few people with a half-a-brain left.

  • bill

    What the fuck is this clown doing?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Unclutch. Only 9 more years of that, fellas.

  • E-ROC

    Clutch these nuts!

  • Steve

    YES! A-ROD!!!

  • Jake H

    If the Yanks lose they lose but I hate when the umps make terrible calls.

  • Ivan

    That’s what Im talking about A-Rod.

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    But it’s the first inning, and Bobby Abreu wasn’t in scoring position, so I guess this isn’t clutch.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Heh.

    • CJ

      It’s clutch. Given the importance of this game, it’s absolutely clutch. We just whine b/c on the whole, he’s still at sub .250 or something w/ RISP and has THREE RBIs after the 7th inning this year. T-H-R-E-E.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Right, but he’s got 76 RBI in innings 1-7, and they count just as much.

        • Steve H

          You mean they don’t multiple in inning 7+?

        • CJ

          That’s a fair point.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

          Mike, you know I’ve been beating the drum with you forever, but I think both sides have valuable arguments.

          Yes, the 76 RBI in innings 1-7 are just as important, critical, and crucial to our success as anything in innings 8 and 9.

          But yes, the fact that our best player seems either too incapable or too unlucky or too fill-in-the-blank to produce anything more than 3 RBI in the 8th and 9th inning should concern the shit out of you and can’t be dismissed.

  • CJ

    Why doesn’t he get ticked and do that to the ball more often? Love it.

  • bill

    Way to go ARod anwer the critics

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Jason Bay has a girlie man arm.

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      Jason Bay: Not Xavier Nady.

      I’ll admit I stole that from Nomaas, but it’s true.

    • bill

      Johnny Damon

    • Steve

      Thats still an upgrade. Manny would have kicked that ball all over the OF and then thrown to the wrong guy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Two out RBI, but Abreu wasn’t in scoring position so it is meaningless.

    God I hate that fucking state. Like I literally hate the combination of letters R-I-S-P.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Game should be tied, but the ump blew that call on Damon.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      So true.

      Also it screws with the top of the second inning. Instead of Ponson facing a trio of Varitek, Cora, and Ellsbury, he has to face Pedroia at minimum.

    • bill

      Tonight the Yanks will have to overcome Ponson and the umps

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    E-ROC says:
    August 27th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Clutch these nuts!

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  • Jake H

    Big G needs to go.

  • BigBlueAL

    Giambi cant become a FA soon enough.

  • CJ

    Giambi should be hitting sixth or seventh. How much more would I have liked to have Nady or Matsui hitting there.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Is it just me or do any of you guys have a feeling an Erin Andrews sex tape will be surfacing in due time?

      • BigBlueAL

        Dont tease me….

      • Manimal

        Let me know when that happens.

      • Jake H

        I wish cause she is HOT

      • Steve

        I bet there will be interesting things going on with the microphone. Just a hunch.

      • CJ

        She seems a little to high-class for that. I’d just settle for her covering this game.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        Ugh. So tired of that.

        Erin Andrews = utterly average. Stop going bananas just because she’s one of the only people on your TV who isn’t wearing a jockstrap.

    • Steve

      Everyone on earth is aware of that, but I think Girardi still wants to wait to see what Matsui has and how much he can play him.

      He was asked this very question on the pre game (LoHud has the feed) and thats was pretty much his answer.

      Its like Joba, by the time he comes back it will probably be too late. And by the time Girardi gets to see how Matsui is doing, we could be buried. With much of the blame aimed at the inept run production we got from the #5 hole.

      • CJ

        Then Nady? I personally am not so sold on lefty-right-lefty-righty.

        • Steve

          If you don’t go R-L, you can get killed in the late innings vs hard throwing relievers. Even if your righties hit lefties, they generally don’t hit hard throwers. Or at least not nearly as much.

          So if you send up 3 righties in a row late in a game you’re just making the opposing managers job easier.

          • Steve

            Check that “If your righties hit righties”

            or vice versa

  • usty

    So the key is to keep them on first base…got it. Can’t wait to see how that gets twisted…”he didn’t even hit a HR there…A-rod is a sux lozer. We want Brosius.”

  • Ivan

    Giambi is very streaky guys.

  • http://www.replacementlevel.com/index.php/RLYW/comments/situational_woba_splits Accent Shallow

    In re: ARod and clutch, the Replacement Level Yankees Weblog has an excellent post dealing with the above subject if you’re interested. Certainly more in depth than “hitting .250 with RISP”!

    Check it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Obviously he’s having a bad year w/RISP, but I’ll take the second most productive player with men on-base in terms of wOBA any fucking day.

  • Jake H

    Big G does need to be moved down.

  • Manimal

    Fatty dives?

  • Ivan

    Ponson showing athletism.

  • E-ROC

    Shawne Merriman should have the surgery. His knee could end up being bone on bone if he plays on it.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Agreed. And if he does play, he won’t be nearly as effective.

      • E-ROC

        Maurice Jones-Drew or some other RB will knock him on his ass or worse.

    • Manimal

      seriously theres a point where you are a true team player and your stupid. Sure go into the playoffs with a busted knee but don’t play a couple years on it thats just stupid.

    • Ivan

      That’s borderline suicide on his career.

    • Steve H

      LT sits out for a hangnail. I can’t stand Merriman, and I do think it’s stupid, but I do have to give him some props for this.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        LT is still helping his team remain a title contender in an age where most NFL RB’s are only relevant for about 3-4 years or so.

        Sitting out a game here or there isn’t necessarily a bad thing for the overall competitiveness of your team.

  • BigBlueAL

    Off-topic, but how bout Merriman, only 24 years old, potentially risking getting a career threatening injury by playing this season. Bro just get your surgery, miss this season and come back like a beast at age 25.

    • BigBlueAL

      Shit nevermind someone just beat me to this!!

    • Manimal

      ha, pwnt by .23 seconds.

  • Ian Kennedy = Clay Parker

    Mike A. –

    Your buddy Cashman did seem to say to himself:
    “these guys – Hughes and Kennedy – are gonna win 10 – 15 games each as 2 of our starters.”
    That led directly to the current mound problems – and indirectly to Sidney’s encore with the Yanks.
    But nice play there from him! (and at least he hasn’t been arrested at 2 AM in an upper
    East Side bar.)

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      “these guys – Hughes and Kennedy – are gonna win 10 – 15 games each as 2 of our starters.”

      When the hell did he say that?

      • bill

        He shouldve had an effective backup plan. Yo cant really expect two rookies to be anchors in the rotation

        • The Fallen Phoenix

          I think the backup plans were (1) Yankees scoring over 900 runs over the course of the season, (2) Chien-Ming Wang and Andy Pettitte throwing over 200 above-league-average innings each.

          Oops?

          • bill

            Okay but you really shouldt have question marks in a contending rotation if you wanna go anywhere, like the world series. Isnt that the goal?

            • The Fallen Phoenix

              Hughes, when healthy, provided league-average innings in the AL East last year as a 21-year-old.

              I don’t really think he’s as a big a question mark as people are making him out to be; he bombed in April, and that may or may not have been due to the injury that ended up costing him the next three-and-a-half months.

              Pelfrey wasn’t all that great to start the year, either, and he’s arguably the Mets’ No. 2 starter right now.

              When the question mark is that kind of upside, yes, I roll the dice every time. Especially when I’m reasonably sure I can count on 900 runs of offense and 200 league-average or better innings from two of my rotation anchors.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          He had backup plans. They were Alan Horne, Jeff Marquez, Darrell Rasner, Kei Igawa, and Jeff Karstens. Is it Cashman’s fault that Horne and Marquez both went through per longed bouts of ineffectiveness and elongated stays on the DL?

          Would anyone have expected Hughes and Kennedy to not record a single win?

          • bill

            Okay, I agree with nyou on Horne and Marquez, but Rasner and Karstens? It was only a matter of time before NL hitters blasted him. That near-perfecto was a fluke

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          What effective backup plan would you have liked? Who should Cashman has signed?

    • Ivan

      You are talking ridiculous.

    • bill

      True dat

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Nice inning by Sid. Ballsy.

    • Manimal

      Theres so much grit on the field I feel like telling Gammons!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Nice.

    • Joey

      But not scrappy!!!

  • bill

    Web Gem

  • Ivan

    Mariners suck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    I’ve been racking my brain with this ever since Barack Obama became the Democratic Primary, will Obama get more votes or non-votes because he’s black? Meaning, will more people vote for him just because he’s black or will more people not vote for him because he’s black?

    To break it down even further, I really want to know if this country is filled with more morons or more racists.

    • Steve

      http://slate.com/

      Please pretty please. I come here to get away from politics.

    • BigBlueAL

      I think, or rather I HOPE, race has nothing to do with it and it will go by the usual crap about party lines. Republicans recently own the Democrats in elections so if anything that would be the reason for Obama losing the election.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Oh no, I don’t think for a second that will decide the election. I just meant that of the morons who will make their decision based on his race (you know there will be), who will have a bigger impact? The idiots who vote for him because of his race, or the racists who will not vote for him because of his race?

        • Ivan

          that’s the world we leave in.

          I get ticked when blk’s vote for Obama (aka Barak Odrama) cuz he’s blk.

          Please people, do ya research.

  • Steve

    Hughes off to another shaky start

    IP 2.0 H 3 R 1 ER 1 BB 1 SO 2

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      I noticed his LHB/RHB splits are very drastic. I wonder if his struggles are more due to him working on pitches than just plain ineffectiveness.

      • Steve

        Yeah, they mentioned that on the broadcast. Having trouble with Lefties.

        • Ivan

          probably working on pitches than anything else.

          • Steve

            Maybe, but he also has a new repertoire. A cutter and a changeup for lefties.

            and just as I type that, he threw a change up to strike out (righty) Josh Barfield.

    • Ivan

      4-0 GB-FB ratio.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      He gave up the run on a single, stolen base, ground out to advance the runner to third, and another single. He’s hardly having a shaky start.

      • Steve

        He seems to have settled down. Throwing more strikes now.

  • Ian Kennedy = Clay Parker

    Mike A.

    Don’t take things literally – what I’m saying is the CASH man obviously placed too much
    faith on unproven starters and the Yanks are really paying for it now. Of course the lineup
    looking like the Hitless Wonders of 1906 White Sox vintage on many nights only worsens the results.

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      If Chien-Ming Wang doesn’t get injured, the rotation right now is Wang/Mussina/Pettitte/Ponson/Pavano.

      If Chamberlain doesn’t get injured, either, the rotation right now is Wang/Mussina/Chamberlain/Ponson.

      I think the injury to Chien-Ming Wang hurts this team a lot more than Hughes’ and Kennedy’s injuries and ineffectiveness. And if Hughes doesn’t get injured, maybe he pulls a Pelfrey and gets stronger as he takes his knocks? It’s been known to happen to young pitchers before.

      • The Fallen Phoenix

        That should (obviously) be Wang/Mussina/Chamberlain/Pettitte/Ponson above.

        Also, just to beat everyone over the head with a hammer: most teams end up doing rather poorly when they lose their ace starter for an extended period of time, either to injury (Cardinals and Chris Carpenter) or ineffectiveness (Boston and Josh Beckett, two years ago).

      • Steve

        Let be real. The BoSox lost Curt Schilling before the year started, lost Dice-K for a few weeks, now Beckett for a few weeks. They’ve been pitching AAA guys and waiver wire guys all year. Tonight’s starter Byrd is off the scrap heap.

        And they’re 6.5 ahead of us. Why? Because they’ve hit and we haven’t.

        • The Fallen Phoenix

          I was responding to the point that losing Wang hurt the Yankees more than Hughes’ and Kennedy’s ineffectiveness.

          I agree that the offense is also a big part, as my other comment above (Yankees scoring 900 runs, or not) suggested.

          But of the pitchers you just mentioned, Boston wasn’t counting on Schilling to be an ace. Ditto Dice-K, and it remains to be seen how the Red Sox do over the next couple of weeks without Beckett.

          But the Yankees lost Wang – their top starter – for three months. It’s not the kind of loss that’s insurmountable, but it’s hard to do so when, as you correctly point out, the offense is underperforming for an already leaky rotation.

          • Steve

            Yeah, I agree with everything you said. My response was less aimed at you than aimed at some others who might be reading.

            You know who you are, people! Thats right! YOU!

  • bill

    That was a pathetic at bat by Robby. What the fuck is he doing?

    • CJ

      The usual. Swinging at a high pitch with two strikes. He does it every freaking time.

  • bill

    Phillies are winning

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      But … but … but teh Johan is pitching!!111! He’s to answer to everyone’s problems!11!!

  • Ian Kennedy = Clay Parker

    The Fallen Phoenix – your comment was a classic.

    Peace to everyone/Good Night.

    • BigBlueAL

      Im waiting for Ian Kennedy = Chuck Cary

  • CJ

    Did Sutcliffe just say that Varitek is the greatest Red Sox ever?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      I hate cancer for a reason that will probably get me smited. I hate it because when people have it you can never criticize them or call them teh stupid.

      • CJ

        Lol.

      • CJ

        Good to see Pudge really smoking the ball.

        Sutcliffe is making me ill.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Un-clutch defense.

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    OMG A-Rod’s glove is teh clutch!1!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Jesus, he even runs fugly.

    • CJ

      hahaha he is one ugly man, that’s for sure.

  • E-ROC

    “The most significant player in Red Sox history is Jason Varitek.” Rick Sutcliffe

    “You can’t measure pitchers by sabermetrics.” Too Old For TV

    • Ivan

      Ted Williams just turn over in his grave.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Yeah, but his head remained motionless in it’s cryogenic chamber.

      • Steve H

        Correction: Ted Williams’ BODY just turned over in his grave.

  • Ivan

    Jim Rice really sat Curve on Ryan? I seriously doubt it.

    • Whitey14

      Dude, in his prime, Rice was rarely thrown fastballs, even by those pitchers who chucked it up there at 100mph, because he typically would hit them so far they needed stewardesses. If he says he sat curveball on Nolan Ryan I would guess it’s because Ryan didn’t want to supply any additional power for Jim Ed. Then again, it’s not like he needed it. This is, after all, the man who broke bats on checks swings on more than one occasion.

  • CJ

    Good to se Pudge really smoking the ball.

    Sutcliffe is really killing me.

    I think Schilling was full of it in the bloody sock game.

  • CJ

    That’s the softest base hit through the infield in history.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Heh, I think Brett Gardner won that distinction last month.

  • CJ

    Cameraman faked me out again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Ted Williams and Yaz are too easy an answer, any guesses besides those two?

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      Babe Ruth was pretty good, pitching them to a World Series (or two?) before they sold him to the Yankees.

      • The Fallen Phoenix

        …although I’m not sure what the question was, I obviously missed it, and my post above therefore might be a bit nonsensical. I thought we were still talking about Red Sox more important than Varitek.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          It was: Who has the most RBI’s in Red Sox history?

          • The Fallen Phoenix

            Ted or Yaz. If I were a mediot, I might be tempted to say Jim Rice, but I’ll guess he doesn’t sniff those two,

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            At Yankee Stadium.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

            Oh wow, completely missed the “…at Yankee Stadium?” portion.

    • CJ

      Buckner, obviously.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Pedroia, duh.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Damn. In all seriousness, I was thinking Manny.

  • Ivan

    whats up with the scores in milb.com.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      ?

      They’re working fine for me.

    • Steve

      Broussard’s HR tied up the SWB game 1-1.

  • Ivan

    that was a catchable ball.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    John Flaherty is such typical mediot.

    • Ivan

      I would have a .226 hitter on my team like Varitek.

      You take Varitek and I’ll take Manny.

  • E-ROC

    I know that Ponson has been effective thus far, but I would like to see him pitch inside more.

  • LC

    the Yankees defense has not made plays this year. Balls drop in the outfield and get past the infielders more often than not. They need some upgrades…hopefully starting with Tex at first

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      Xavier Nady should be an upgrade in right over Abreu, too. I’m still not sure why Damon and not Abreu was DH’ing most days after the Nady acquisition, provided Damon was healthy enough to play the field.

  • Ivan

    why everytime sidney pitches well, the team struggles to score runs.

  • Accent Shallow

    In re: Flaherty’s gushing about Varitek.

    Is Varitek all that worthwhile as a catcher? Would the Red Sox really be that worse off if he’d hurt himself in spring training and someone else was hitting .220 in his spot?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Along with A.J. Perzynski, Jason Varitek is one of the worst defensive Catchers in the A.L. (Caught Stealing Percentage)

      • The Fallen Phoenix

        But! But! He handles the pitching staff! No one can’t catch a knuckleball better than Varitek, and no one else can do a better job calling terrible games for star prospect Clay “Where are my laptops?” Buccholz!

        • Whitey14

          I’m guessing you only see the 18 or 19 games against the yankees each year….

          Varitek does call a good game, doesn’t have a really strong arm (never really has), and doesn’t catch Wakefield’s knuckler.

          His bat has slipped tremendously this year, but that tends to happen to cathers when they hit their mid tolate 30’s.

          If he played for the yankees over the past decade, you’d have loved him the way we do. We may be dissapointed that his skills are declining, but we still love him and he’s an excellent Captain. You don’t hear him booed at Fenway either.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          No one can’t catch a knuckleball better than Varitek

          I’m sorry, but that cracked me up.

      • Accent Shallow

        Well, he’s getting up there in years, so obviously he doesn’t have much of an arm anymore. But here I’m referring to his possibly mythical ability to “handle a pitching staff”.

        How much worse would the Sox be if their AAA guy was hitting 220/310/370 for them? How much of an effect does the man have?

        • The Fallen Phoenix

          I’d argue not much, since he couldn’t make Buccholz very good in the majors, could he?

          • Whitey14

            Why is that the Catcher’s fault. When Buchholtz trusted his stuff in 2007 Varitek guided him to a no-hitter. When he started missing his spots, couldn’t locate his fastball, and lost all confidence, it became an issue for the Pitching Coach, not the Catcher. That’s why he’s in AA working with somebody he had great success with, rather than in AAA.

            • Steve H

              Because Varitek gets all of the credit in the world for good pitching performances, including the overblown no-hitters stat. Mike Piazza caught 2 no-hitters in his career, Fisk none. Piazza better defensively? In fact, when Fisk was with the Sox, his backup caught 2 no-hitters, was he better than Fisk? If all Sox fans are going to give Varitek the credit for the good, he gets blame for the bad.

              • Whitey14

                I guess if that’s the case then Posada and Molina are largely to blame for the early season failures of Hughes and Kennedy?

                I think these are all big boys and they need to take responsibility for their own failures, that goes for Buchholtz, Hughes and Kennedy. Blaming the Catchers is just typical finger pointing and I haven’t heard anybody but the fans do it so far…..

                • Steve H

                  “When Buchholtz trusted his stuff in 2007 Varitek guided him to a no-hitter.”

                  Umm, just saying, it’s got to be a 2 way street. Guided him to a no-hitter is a total BS line. Bucholz made the pitches, just like he’s not making them this year. End of story. If you don’t want to blame Varitek, don’t make asinine comments about no-hitters.

                • Whitey14

                  I don’t think it’s asinine to state that a pitcher’s confidence level has a lot to do with throwing a no hitter, nor is it BS to give a catcher credit for calling a good game during a no hitter.

                  And thank you for making my point for me, Varitek has been the one calling his pitches, one year he was hitting his spots, the next year he wasn’t. Sounds like the pitcher’s problem to me too.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Unclutch. There was no one in RISP.

  • Joey

    Not a HR… unclutch

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Lead-off doubles don’t help teams win games.

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    Damn it A-Rod, why can’t you hit these doubles when there are two outs, runners are on base, and it’s the 7th inning or later!? And preferably after you’ve had the other team score enough runs so that your hit would put the Yankees ahead after they’ve been behind!

    You’re such a worthless piece of refuse, you un-clutch money-grubber!

  • Ivan

    Didn’t I say that A-Rod was gonna have a big night.

  • E-ROC

    Clutch these on yo fo’head!

  • Ivan

    good job Giambi moving the runners.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Intentionally making an out is not good baseball, Michael Kay.

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      Especially when one considers this is what Jason Giambi does more often than not; hit right into the shift. He just happened to be fortunate there was someone on 2nd base he could move over to 3rd this time.

  • E-ROC

    Nady’s unclutchness is pissing me off. ;)

  • Ivan

    come on X-Man.

  • Steve

    Brutal AB by Nady.

  • Jake H

    unclutch by x

  • Steve

    Here’s one of the spots where Matsui can make the case for Giambi’s #5 in the batting order.

    • Steve

      and. . . he walks.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        That was the good ol’ unintentional intentional walk.

  • D.B.

    how about them yankees

  • Ivan

    You saw Cano reaction

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Pedroia pulled a Cano on that grounder.

    • Steve H

      Can’t believe he didn’t “grit” it into his glove. If had dove and made the play, everyone would have lauded him for it. The 2007 (and 2008 Pre-ASB) Cano would have made that playing standing up, because he has twice the range of Pedroia

    • Manimal

      or Cano pulled a Pedroia, depends how you look at it.

  • giselle

    woo! robinson! robinson!

  • E-ROC

    Cano!!!

  • Steve

    Canooooo!!!

  • Accent Shallow

    Not as good as upper deck, but I’ll take it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    So two of the most hated Yankees in 2008 combine for the tying run in the consensus “biggest game of the year”.

  • D.B.

    canos daddy

  • Ivan

    not enough grit by Pedrioa to get that ball.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Man, Pudge has been just brutal since the trade.

  • Jake H

    Finally a 2 out rbi.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Phil Hughes has a 19/3-K/BB ratio in his past four starts (including this one in progress). That span covers 16.1-IP. He’s also getting his grounders tonight, has a 5/2-GB/FB ratio.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Irrelevant, the minors are about results and wins, not development. Duh.

      • Accent Shallow

        Clearly unless you’re a scout watching the game, you’re not gonna have an idea of that, but to us, it’s tough to be encouraged by a 3 inning outing where he gives up 10 hits and 8 runs.

        Thankfully, the Yankees have access to more data than I do. Here’s hoping he can get his shit together and have a few successful starts at the ML level before the season’s end.

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      I still think that kid’s going to be something special, possibly as soon as next season.

      • Steve H

        Could not agree more. Look at what some of the best MLB pitchers were doing at his age, and they weren’t all lighting up the league.

    • Steve

      Just struck out a lefty. Pitching VERY well tonight.

      IP 5 H 4 R 1 ER 1 BB 1 SO 6

      Throwing lots of strikes as well 68-46

  • Steve

    When you think about Pudge, you really can’t be surprised he hasn’t done much. He lost his starting job in Detroit, so that tells you he wasn’t playing great in the first place. Cashman knew this, he was hoping Pudge would get energized in a pennant race, and lets be honest we haven’t really been in one. He came here to take some of the pressure off Molina, and he’s done that.

    • Steve H

      But he had been on a tear in his last month or so in Detroit.

      • Steve

        We gave up Farnsy, who nobody trusted in a big spot, either.

        As bad as he’s been, he’s almost as good as Molina defensively and a slight upgrade with the bat. It was an OK deal. People just expect him to play like Pudge of 2003, and he’s not that player anymore.

        • Steve H

          And age isn’t even the biggest difference between 2008 and 2003 with Pudge, it’s the 50 lbs. of muscle he mysteriously lost.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            He must have cut out the In-n-Out Burgers too.

            • Steve

              Maybe the beef they use isn’t organic? Loaded with those hormone thingys?

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

                Yeah, I’m sure that was the problem, being loaded with hormones.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    That’s the same pitch Lowrie got for a ball and Damon got for a strike. Douchebag.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    It’s funny, didn’t Peter Gammons call Ron “Papa” Jackson the best hitting coach in the Majors when he was with the Red Sox?

  • Ivan

    fuck.

  • E-ROC

    Wasn’t Ponson suppose to pitch inside against Pedroia?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    What is so special about June 12, 1999? Well, in the 4th inning of that Yankee game, Paul O’Neill jacked Major League Baseball’s 200,000th Home Run off Marlin’s starter, Livan Hernandez.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That’s grit and gamerism right there. I bet he beat up the watercooler afterwards.

      • Steve

        Weak. You put no heart in that post.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I slam my helmet at that remark.

          • BigBlueAL

            Oneill was a bit more than grit and determination, he could actually hit the ball….

          • Steve

            That will give us some momentum.

  • Ivan

    just BB ortiz

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Sean Henn also gave up HR number 240K to David Newhan and the Baltimore Orioles on September 9, 2006.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/250_000.shtml

  • D.B.

    hughes is ready.

  • Ivan

    where was that pitch.

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    If you were going to go inside, Sidney, couldn’t you at least hit him in the ass? It’s a clearer target than this ump’s zone, at least.

  • Dave P.

    The grittyness of Pedroia can suck my ass.

  • E-ROC

    Just get out of the inning!

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    Clearly A-Rod is willing the Red Sox to score right now so that he can screw up in a clutch situation later this evening.

  • Josh K

    Come on Ponson!! If you were going to walk that bushy-faced bastard, you could of hit him instead…

  • Patrick T

    I wouldn’t mind Ponson being a three-toed sloth so much if he’d just throw some strikes.

    • Steve

      Actually, if he threw a lot of strikes they would probably land in the upper deck.

  • E-ROC

    Now offense, start scoring!

  • Ivan

    Look, the yanks have coming up Damon, Jeter and Abreu. I assume we can score at least one more run her this inning.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Not for nothing, but Melky Cabrera has been doing what the Yankees asked of him. Including tonight’s game, he has a 5/7-K/BB ratio.

    • Steve

      He has, as has Ian Kennedy who has been throwing a zillion 2 seamers and curves just like Girardi asked.

      The only complaint about Melky is they also asked him to work on his base running, and he’s been getting thrown out on the basepaths almost every night. But he seems to be more patient at the plate, drawing plenty of BB, and that was his biggest problem this year, not being selective.

  • Manimal

    Go laserpointer man.

  • Steve

    Another easy 1-2-3 inning for Phil Phrachise.

    Bring em up.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Might as well, his next start won’t be until after rosters expand.

      • Steve

        Touche!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    What happened there Youk, your ugly ass can’t make a gritty play now?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      It was pastadivingyouk.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Please no GIDP, please no GIDP, please no GIDP …

  • D.B.

    almost a DP

  • E-ROC

    Dammit!!!

  • Ivan

    Hughes 6.0 5 1 1 1 6 0 6.65

    He’s k’d guys at a good rate.

    • A.D.

      getting it together

  • Ivan

    why is the yankees making Paul Byrd look like Greg Maddux in his prime.

  • Steve

    Thats one way to break up A-Rod and Giambi.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    I wonder if 85% of the Yankee universe will cease to exist if A-Rod can’t be blamed for a loss against the Red Sox.

    • Steve

      I wonder if 85% of the Yankee universe will be following Football in a week.

    • Ivan

      A-Rod came to play tonight and I knew he would.

      That said, they have to protect A-Rod better. Giambi is too streaky.

  • E-ROC

    hit the balls hard………right at somebody in that inning. Sucks!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    So Mike, is there any chance that Pedro Alvarez wont become a Pittsburgh Pirate? Can he really go back into the draft pool next year?

    • Steve

      (Puts on his Mike voice) ahem . . well, it doesn’t appear to be going anywhere legally. Boras tried the same thing with your favorite player in 93, and it went nowhere.

    • A.D.

      Boras is really pushing the situation

    • http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3556133 Accent Shallow

      Nope. The Pirates put him on the restricted list. If the situation isn’t resolved, he’s boned with respect to baseball.

      • A.D.

        what exactly is the “restricted list”

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          The bad boy list. That’s where you go if you refuse to report, or do something in direct disobedience of the team.

        • Accent Shallow

          Check the ESPN link I have under my name above.

          • A.D.

            i did, it didnt really explain what the list meant

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      No, the paperwork has been submitted to the league already. It’s basically like an NFL holdout, he’s contractually obligated to be there, but he’s not going to report until he gets more cash. It’s stupid, just freaking play.

  • Manimal

    that inning showed how much better a manager francona is than Girardi

    • E-ROC

      Reason?

      • Manimal

        Girardi didn’t pull out Ponson on time. Francona hit and run, and capitalized on having baserunners on and Yankees couldn’t move Damon to second. Sox were aggressive and the yankees were agressively stupid.

    • Ivan

      in what?

  • A.D.

    anyone know why Hacker only pitched 3 innings?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Lining up that playoff rotation baby.

      • A.D.

        good, worried it was an injury, its great to see him healthy and effective

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Cool, Hughes back out for the seventh.

    • Steve

      leadoff triple

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        He K’ed the next batter and was then lfited for Phil Coke.

      • Steve

        STEEEEEEEEEERIKE 3!!

        . . . and Miley’s pulling him out. At 87 pitches.

        Nice outing by Phil.

      • Ivan

        took him out after 87 pitches? what gives.

        • A.D.

          end on a high note

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          The next batter was lefthanded, that might have something to do with it.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Only 79 pitches through 6.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Lakeview Terrace = Snakes On a Plane

    Meaning, I can’t wait to see it! Seriously though, screw what everybody else said, Snakes On A Plane was meant to be a campy movie, if you think it sucked it’s because you took it too seriously.

    • E-ROC

      Snakes freak me out so I like that movie

    • Ivan

      You watching that new movie with Al Pacino and Robert Di’nero.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Most mother fucking definitely. Two of my favorite actors of all-time.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I’m tired of these muthafuckin’ snakes on this muthafuckin’ plane.

      I’m tired of these muthafuckin’ snakes on this muthafuckin’ plane.

      I’m tired of these muthafuckin’ snakes on this muthafuckin’ plane.

      I’m tired of these muthafuckin’ snakes on this muthafuckin’ plane.

      That about sums that movie up.

  • LC

    when’s the last time giambi got a frigging hit? seems ages ago

    • LC

      1 for his last 14 yikes. the yanks have better options than him in the 5 hole

    • A.D.

      i think he’s punched his ticket to not be resigned, if there were any thoughts of keeping him

      • Steve

        Thats a pretty safe bet.

      • Ivan

        pretty much.

  • Ivan

    The yanks should be killing Paul Byrd.

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      That’s what we said last October, too.

    • Steve

      I can just see tomorrow’s goofy pic on NoMaas. A 60’s movie poster of Alfred Hitchcock’s “The Birds” with the title spelled BYRD and Paul’s face on a bunch of birds attacking people faces of the Yankee hitters.

    • A.D.

      thats what everyone says when they face byrd

  • BigBlueAL

    5 runs thru 15 innings so far in this series vs Wake and Byrd and that supposed shitty Sox bullpen by this pathetic Yankees offense….

  • Accent Shallow

    Sit down, pretty boy.

  • Steve

    Heyman (who I feel dirty quoting) wrote today that he’s hearing (from as always vague, unsourced Yankee types) that the Yanks will let Marte walk at the end of the year.

    I hope not, it took us YEARS to find a good lefty and he’s just taken some time to adjust, which most acquisitions do. He’s death on lefties, I’d like to extend him at a lower rate than his 6 mil option. Maybe 2-10 or 3-13. He still only 33, should have a few years left.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Just pick up the option. One year commitment, easy to get out of if it goes wrong. It’s better than the alternatives, like signing Fuentes for 4/40, or Ohman for 3/12.

      • A.D.

        youd be better off soption and trade if you didnt want him, obv there is a surplus of pen pitching, but letting marte walk, during a weak draft year (expected) isnt the answer

    • Accent Shallow

      I’d be surprised if they were to let him walk at the end of the year, since they’ve lusted after him basically since they traded him for Enrique Wilson.

      That said, I wouldn’t cry too much if they were to let him walk. He’s apparently a Type A free agent, so that’s two draft picks. For a reliever? That’s tough to argue, unless it’s someone significantly better than Marte.

  • Charles

    Marte is damn filthy.

  • Ivan

    The yanks don’t really need to make drastic changes to the offense, but they need to add a consistent hitter and it doesn’t have to be Texiera.

    • A.D.

      but it wouldnt be bad if it was tex

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Yay Marte. Let’s see if Girardi runs him back out there next inning.

    • Manimal

      With his elbow situation, hell no.

      • Manimal

        veras it is.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Come on, Girardi admitted his mistake, it’s not Joe Torre we are dealing with.

      • Steve

        Girardi is very hesitant to give reporters any inflammation.

        • Manimal

          Zing!

    • Steve

      I don’t think so since he was on the shelf for a week after his 42 pitch outing vs TEX.

  • E-ROC

    Dama-so damn filthy!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Kay really took Girardi’s “we have to win 2 out of 3” to heart, huh? Talk about beating a dead horse.

    • Steve

      Story of the year.

      He’s going for the Pulitzer prize.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Michael Kay has to be the whiniest person on the face of this fucking planet. Jesus Christ.

  • Steve H

    It’s funny that with all of the stories about the Red Sox developing all these young players and the Yankees failures, do people realize that Cano is less than a year older than Ellsbury, and has clearly accomplished a hell of a lot more? Wonder if Gammons is aware.

  • Ivan

    Come on offense.

  • Jake H

    Yanks O again not showing up tonight.

    • A.D.

      pretty much the season

    • Steve

      Or last night or last week or before the all star break or in June or May or April.

  • Ivan

    Yo pudge is just awful right now.

  • E-ROC

    Sighs…

  • Jake H

    It doesn’t help that they almost had 3 hr’s

  • E-ROC

    nice save by I-Rod.

  • A.D.

    any chance Veras comes close to these numbers next year?

    • Steve H

      He’s got the stuff to do it, needs to keep the walks down and stay healthy though

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Johnny Damon, you should be ashamed of yourself.

  • Accent Shallow

    Oh, Bobby . . .

    • Steve H

      Can’t wait till Nady’s patrolling RF next year.

  • Steve

    slip sliding away . . . . . slip sliding away . . hey. You know the nearer your destination the more you’re slip sliding away . . .

  • E-ROC

    Abreu!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • A.D.

    oh abreu by the wall, terrible

  • Ivan

    Jesus christ.

  • Josh K

    Nice covering Damon…geesh

  • A.D.

    wonder if its abreus d that leads the yanks to let him go

  • E-ROC

    Veras walked Jason bleeping Varitek.

    • Steve H

      Varitek can’t catch up to a 92 mph fastball, Veras throws 96…..JUST PUT IT DOWN THE MIDDLE!!!

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Easier said than done my friend.

  • Ivan

    If the yanks lose this game, would it be smart to just let Hughes and Kennedy pitch for the rest of the season Mike?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Well, I don’t advocate throwing them to the wolves, but if they’re ready, then yes. I, as well as a whole lotta other people, thought they were ready in April.

      • Steve

        Its September. It will be valuable non pressure experience for both of them.

        I think in both of their cases what they need to learn can only be done on the MLB level. I wouldn’t be against using Hughes out of the pen, to limit his exposure and try to build on success. His Innings numbers are shot for the year anyway. But Kennedy I’d like to see starting.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    It just wasn’t meant to be I guess.

    • Steve H

      Realistically it never really was for 08. A whole lot of chips would have had to fall right. Cashman has had 2009 in his sights, with all of the $$$ coming of the books. Of course part of that plan was letting Joba/Phil/IPK take their lumps and develop this year to be ready to contend this year, but injuries certainly got in the way of that.

      • Dave P.

        Exactly.

  • Steve

    Think we have a rally in our bones?

  • Steve

    Fucking Mets just tied it up. 3-3.

    If I’m going to be miserable the LAST thing I want to see is Met fans happy.

  • Ivan

    Shit Coco crips.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    “She’s very smart, she plans our vacations a full year in advance. And she’s all mine.”

    Why the hell are those furniture store commercials so damn dramatic?

  • Dave P.

    these songs come to mind when I think of the 2008 Yankees Season….

    The End- The Doors
    Over Now- Alice n Chains
    Blackhole Sun- Soundgarden

    • Steve

      Ever hear the Paul Anka version of Black Hole Sun?

      Hilarious.

      • Dave P.

        is it on youtube? I’ll check it out.

        • Steve

          Yes.

      • Flynn

        The Steve and Eydie version is even better.

  • Ivan

    Well maybe just maybe, it wasn’t the yanks year.

  • Steve

    Fucking Mets pulled ahead 4-3.

  • E-ROC

    Who is due upin the bottom half of the inning??

    That wasn’t a bleeping strike??????

  • Steve

    The midget hits a granny. Can’t make this shit up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Really, David Robertson? Really?

  • E-ROC

    Thanx Abooboo!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Oh wow, Jonatahan Papelbon is a fucking douche.

    • Dave P.

      You so that too? He’s a fucking cockhole.

    • Joey H

      ANDDDDDD you just realized this?

  • Ivan

    Dustin Pedrioa just might end the yanks season.

  • Joe

    Okay, really? Did that just happen?

  • Ivan

    Well look on the bright side guys, 09 will be much better.

    • Steve

      Maybe.

      Or maybe Hughes will never get healthy, Joba will blow out his rotator cuff, CC will sign in sunny CA, we sign Sheets and he goes on the DL in May, Tex gets a comparable offer in BALT and signs there, and we will all come to the conclusion that Kennedy, Melky and Cano just weren’t as good as we all thought they were.

  • D.B.

    Season over.

  • E-ROC

    Hey, Abooboo catches one.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

    I’ve been one of the most optimistic people on here for months, constantly defending our players and keeping up hope. But over the past two days, my level of disgust with this team has increased exponentially.

    Nobody is to blame and everyone is to blame. We’ve been victims of bad luck, injuries, cold streaks, player regressions, an inflexible roster, an imbalanced rotation, and numerous questionable decisions by owners, managers, executives and players.

    This is just fucking frustrating. I will still hold out hope that we can get on a hot streak and get into the playoffs, but I have zero confidence of us even winning a single game there if we do. I want to fucking punch something, and I’m going to expect a serious effort to reshape this ballclub from top to bottom for 2009. We simply don’t have good starting pitching, good defense, or hitters who can consistently get on base and drive runners in.

    God-fucking-damnit.

    • BigBlueAL

      Best fuckin post ever!!!!

    • Ivan

      I feel what ya saying but look good times are coming.

      Look just a couple minor tweaks here and there and the team is in good shape.

      The team can’t make the playoffs every year.

  • Steve

    Remember when we went up to Boston in 05 and swept the BoSox in 5 straight, knocking them out of playoff contention?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Ah yes. Good times, good times.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      It was 2006 and yes, yes I do.

      • Steve

        Now we know what it feels like.

  • D.B.

    at least hughes did good tonight.

  • Steve

    OH, please somebody get on base.

    Please let Alex be the one to make the last out. Preferably on a double play.

    It the only way to end this season.

    • Steve

      WTF am I talking about. Its still the 8th.

      Feels like the 9th, in a LOT of ways.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Please let Alex be the one to make the last out. Preferably on a double play.

      Why the hell are you wishing for that? If you’re rooting for him to fail, then you’re no better than a Sox fan, or that douchebag in the bullpen with his arms extended after the granny.

      • Steve

        It would be fitting, thats all. Geez, have a sense of narrative for once when it comes to Alex hitting in the crutch.

        . . . . silly me, did I just say “crutch”? A-Rod hitting in the crutch! Hahahhaahah. . . . . nah, actually that sucked.

      • Whitey14

        Come on Mike, seriously!

        No better than a Sox fan? What does that even mean? We root for our team the same way you root for yours, we’re no different than you. For Christ’s sake it’s not like we’re fighting over the fucking Gaza strip. Just because we’re Red Sox fans doesn’t mean we’re bad people.

        I realize emotions are high tonight and I hope you know that I respect you very much as a stand up guy who has often supported me on this site, I just didn’t care for that statement.

        Sorry for the rant…

        • Steve

          OK, I take that back. When a Red Sox fan is the only one agreeing with me, I have clearly done something very wrong.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          Whitey, your cool peoples, but I disagree, there is something wrong with being a Red Sox fan. Just isn’t human. ;)

          • Whitey14

            Come on Jamal…..I can’t help where I was born (good old Brunswick, Maine!)

            If you were born here, chances are, you’d be a Sox fan too.

            Scary isn’t it ;-)

            But just so you know, I think you’re good people too!

  • Steve

    Yanks become sellers? Still a month left, we’ve seen a few deals this week . . . why not?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Players have to be acquired before Sept 1st to be eligible for the postseason roster. And what do they have to sell anyway? Who’s going to want Giambi or Pudge?

      • Manimal

        Arizona could want Giambi and Tampa could want Pudge.

        • Steve

          There you go, but I was thinking we might serve two purposes. If we want to take a look at Hughes/Kennedy maybe we deal Moose or something. I don’t see him coming back, and all we would need is something comparable to a supplemental round draft pick, talent wise. Maybe a teams 07 supplemental or 2nd round pick that we like.

  • Bill N

    What a shit way to end the season. I started this season with such hope ans excitement to end on a rat fuck boy grandslam. I will continue to watch but only cause true fandom holds me to. But I have lost hope for the postseason.

  • Manimal
    • BigBlueAL

      Sorry to break it to you but it has been the End of the World as We Know It since October of 2004.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    PeteAbe: “The Yankees used to get in position then put the hammer down. Not this year.”

    Meaning, Joe Torre would have willed Chien-Ming Wang to a healthy trip around the bases, Torre would have rubbed out all the bad luck out in Robinson Cano’s bat, Torre would have enlisted the help of shaman to heal the injuries of Jorge Posada, Alex Rodriguez, Hideki Matsui, and Phil Hughes quicker.

    I really hate this mentality that people have that the Yankees could have overcome all this if Joe Torre was still here.

    • BigBlueAL

      Problem is look at the Red Sox right now and all the stuff they have had happen to them this year….

    • Ivan

      Pete needs to STFU.

    • Steve H

      And Torre would have gotten 18 wins out of IPK, you left that part out.

    • Steve

      Funny how short people’s memory is. Everyone said last year that the Yanks don’t come back like they used to, that they have a glass jaw and are a bully offensive team. Now, Torre’s the answer to all their problems.

  • Hybrid Moments

    I look forward to the post game entry about how the Yankees are still in it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      They are. Very dim, but the chance is still there if they avoid the sweep tomorrow.

      • Hybrid Moments

        Keep fighting the good fight man. I wish I could believe that they are in it.

  • http://RiverAve.Blues Joseph M

    Cashman needs to start loading names onto the waiver wire right now and see if he gets any nibbles. Maybe just maybe the Yanks can get lucky and pick up a useful part or two for next year. It’s over pull the plug.

  • E-ROC

    Good stuff by Chris Britton.

  • E-ROC

    meaningful.

  • Ivan

    Ya Giambi.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    If A-Rod would have hit that HR then the word “meaningless” would have appeared 6234039723869 times in tomorrow’s papers.

    Joe, your theory is up again tomorrow.

  • E-ROC

    This is one of the reason I like Timlin.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    I love it how every section of the Stadium has emptied out except for the RF Bleachers. I really do love that.

    • Hybrid Moments

      People can hate on them all they want but the Creatures never get anything but respect from me.

    • Ivan

      I love them mothafuckers. True Yankee Soilders

  • bill

    The season is over. This team is GUTLESS. Absolutely no mental toughness on this joke of a team. And we let a little turd put the nail in our coffin. FUCK THE YANKEES. THEYRE DEAD

    • Steve

      and if Joba was healthy and pitched a 1 run game, you’d be praising their ‘heart’ and ‘grit’, right?

      Baseball is about 75% pitching, and we just don’t have it.

  • E-ROC

    blah

  • Ivan

    Pudge sucks ass right now.

  • Ivan

    Jamal is the season over?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      It’s not over until they’re mathematically eliminated. Rox proved it last year.

      • BigBlueAL

        I want some of whatever you are drinking right now….

      • Steve H

        Rox did it in the worst division in baseball

      • Hybrid Moments

        The Rockies did not have teams the calibur of Boston, Minnesota, and Chicago to deal with. Its not happening.

      • Steve

        Mike, there are some seasons where you just don’t have it. This team looks a LOT more like the mid/late-80s teams than it does the mid/late 90s teams. We need to start doing everything with an eye toward next year.

        Now is the time to lower expectations, and just watch Baseball for the fun of it. If you hold on to hope, you’ll just make yourself miserable. Trust me, I’ve seen (more than a few) bad Yankee teams. This is one of them.

      • Joey H

        mike this “faith ” of yours is getting way out of hand. its hard for all of us to jump ship, but now is the time.

  • Stryker

    so – is it time to write the obituary yet?