Comments on: Joba heading back to the pen, for now http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/ A New York Yankees Blog Sun, 27 May 2012 17:22:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Joseph M http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/#comment-140439 Joseph M Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:12:32 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=3993#comment-140439 What we are talking about at this time is the present state of the Yankees. The Yankee farm system is devoid of major league ready position players, take alook at where the Yanks looked for solutions when problems arose at the catching position, when they needed an extra first basemen, when they needed a third basemen when AROD was hurt. The two outfield prospects brought up this year were hardly impressive. Gardner doesn't hit the ball with much authority and looks like a spare part at best, Justin Christian is 28 years old! As far as pitching prospects, we'll see. Joba and Robertson look good but Hughes is off to a so so start at best and Kennedy ... . This is a question of organization vision, if George were still George Brian would be gone plain and simple. I don't think Hal and Hank have the same baseball fire that George had and in lieu of that the organization needs a dynamic leader, the best baseball man available. Brian is not that guy in my opinion, his contract is up, it's time to move on. What we are talking about at this time is the present state of the Yankees. The Yankee farm system is devoid of major league ready position players, take alook at where the Yanks looked for solutions when problems arose at the catching position, when they needed an extra first basemen, when they needed a third basemen when AROD was hurt. The two outfield prospects brought up this year were hardly impressive. Gardner doesn’t hit the ball with much authority and looks like a spare part at best, Justin Christian is 28 years old! As far as pitching prospects, we’ll see. Joba and Robertson look good but Hughes is off to a so so start at best and Kennedy … .

This is a question of organization vision, if George were still George Brian would be gone plain and simple. I don’t think Hal and Hank have the same baseball fire that George had and in lieu of that the organization needs a dynamic leader, the best baseball man available. Brian is not that guy in my opinion, his contract is up, it’s time to move on.

]]> By: Steve http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/#comment-139798 Steve Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:44:37 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=3993#comment-139798 I think everybody is overreacting. I saw nothing that said he would go back to his 8th inning setup role. When Girardi says "Were going to get creative" thats the same thing he said when they decided to stretch him out on the MLB level earlier in the year. I suspect he means the same thing this time. They won't start him at first, get 3 innings here and then 4 innings, and then set a date to start him. You get some innings out of one of your best arms and stretch him out at the same time. No biggie, and we've seen this before. I think everybody is overreacting. I saw nothing that said he would go back to his 8th inning setup role. When Girardi says “Were going to get creative” thats the same thing he said when they decided to stretch him out on the MLB level earlier in the year. I suspect he means the same thing this time.

They won’t start him at first, get 3 innings here and then 4 innings, and then set a date to start him. You get some innings out of one of your best arms and stretch him out at the same time. No biggie, and we’ve seen this before.

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/#comment-139773 tommiesmithjohncarlos Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:32:27 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=3993#comment-139773 Joba back in the pen... this is the dumbest idea i've heard of since something that George Bush thought of last week. Stop fucking with Joba and his arm like he's Elastic Man. He's a starter, he should start. He should get stretched out in the minors where he can behave and approach each pitch like a starter. Just because we didn't get burned earlier this year on an extremely risky plan doesn't make it a sound plan that we should be repeating. Joba back in the pen… this is the dumbest idea i’ve heard of since something that George Bush thought of last week.

Stop fucking with Joba and his arm like he’s Elastic Man. He’s a starter, he should start. He should get stretched out in the minors where he can behave and approach each pitch like a starter. Just because we didn’t get burned earlier this year on an extremely risky plan doesn’t make it a sound plan that we should be repeating.

]]> By: Ken http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/#comment-139755 Ken Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:00:43 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=3993#comment-139755 ~~The only problem I have with that, is that I feel like the Yankee farm system, while highly regarded, is too pitching-heavy. Granted, you can never have too much pitching and that’s what wins games, but we basically have no position prospects .... ~~ Yes but you can trade pitching prospects for established position players, as was done with Nady. It's almost impossible to do the reverse. ~~The only problem I have with that, is that I feel like the Yankee farm system, while highly regarded, is too pitching-heavy. Granted, you can never have too much pitching and that’s what wins games, but we basically have no position prospects …. ~~

Yes but you can trade pitching prospects for established position players, as was done with Nady. It’s almost impossible to do the reverse.

]]> By: bill http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/#comment-139750 bill Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:45:43 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=3993#comment-139750 This is bullshit. Theyre overacting to a strain caused by the Texas heat - not overuse. I hope this nonsense is short lived - if the Yanks have any October hopes Joba Chamberlain has to be in the rotation, not the bullpen. This is bullshit. Theyre overacting to a strain caused by the Texas heat – not overuse. I hope this nonsense is short lived – if the Yanks have any October hopes Joba Chamberlain has to be in the rotation, not the bullpen.

]]> By: X http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/#comment-139743 X Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:23:51 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=3993#comment-139743 I'd like to see them go after some position players, as well (elite guys). You are right though about Jesus Montero. He is our own Ryan Braun and his power is going to be tremendous. I’d like to see them go after some position players, as well (elite guys). You are right though about Jesus Montero. He is our own Ryan Braun and his power is going to be tremendous.

]]> By: swo http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/#comment-139740 swo Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:10:06 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=3993#comment-139740 Giese will shadow his starts in the meantime, until he gets to 100%. I'm not worried at all. Giese will shadow his starts in the meantime, until he gets to 100%. I’m not worried at all.

]]> By: TurnTwo http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/#comment-139733 TurnTwo Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:45:09 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=3993#comment-139733 told you i wouldnt be surprised!!! told you i wouldnt be surprised!!!

]]> By: RobertGKramer http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/#comment-139730 RobertGKramer Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:25:02 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=3993#comment-139730 We have some that may be Braun type (I don't know him very well as a Brewer) but they're below AA. We have some that may be Braun type (I don’t know him very well as a Brewer) but they’re below AA.

]]> By: Chris http://riveraveblues.com/2008/08/joba-heading-back-to-the-pen-for-now-3993/#comment-139728 Chris Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:05:46 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=3993#comment-139728 Why is stretching out his arm such a big deal? He threw 93 pitches on Aug 4, when he got the tendinitis. He's been on a throwing program for a week now. Couldn't he go 50-60 pitches now? Why is stretching out his arm such a big deal? He threw 93 pitches on Aug 4, when he got the tendinitis. He’s been on a throwing program for a week now. Couldn’t he go 50-60 pitches now?

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