Yanks roll over Angels after pitching falters

Kennedy makes his case; Charleston's offense explodes
The 'stache edition of 'And Now It's Gone'

Major League Baseball’s win rule is something of a funny beast. In yeseterday afternoon’s Yankee game, Edwar Ramirez walked away with the win, but to say he earned it would be a complete fallacy. In fact, when he retired the last batter of the eighth inning and ostensibly left the game, he had just given up a three-run lead, and the Yanks were facing a deficit with six outs to go.

But Sunday was one of those days, and the Yanks had to get Edwar, unhittable in July but less so in August, off the hook. When the dust finally settled after the eighth, the Yanks had scored six runs — five of them unearned — and won a key Sunday split of the four-game set against the Angels.

The day started out rather poorly for the Yanks. After four innings, they were down 5-0, and Darrell Rasner was done for the day and possibly for the starting rotation. Rasner allowed five earned runs on seven hits and three walks in four innings today, and with Ian Kennedy tossing another solid start for Scranton, I would be surprised to see Rasner take the mound next week against this same Angels team.

The Yanks, held to just three hits in the game’s first four innings, weren’t quite finished yet though. Ivan Rodriguez homered in the fifth, and the flood gates opened in the sixth. Xavier Nady plated two on a ground rule double, and after an RBI groundout by Wilson Betemit, the Yanks had cut the Angels’ deficit to one.

In the seventh, things started to fall apart for the Angels. With one out, Jeter hit a ball to center that should have been caught, but Gary Matthews couldn’t handle it. Derek was on second with a clutch error by the other team’s center fielder. After an Abreu RBI single and a completely meaningless single by A-Rod that did nothing to keep the inning alive or help the Yankees win the game since it was a hit by A-Rod, Xavier Nady blasted a three-run home run to give the Yanks a one-run lead.

But this one was far from over, Edwar Ramirez racked up two quick K’s, but a walk, a hit and a walk brought Mark Teixeira to the plate. With one swing, the newest Angel showed the Yanks why they may want to toss around the idea of signing him in the off-season. As the ball sailed over the right field fence, the Angels grabbed a one-run lead.

The eighth would feature more fun times for the Angels’ defense. Erick Aybra would drop a Melky Cabrera ground ball, Jeff Mathis would toss a ball into the outfield and Chone Figgins would boot an A-Rod ground ball while Robinson Cano, Xavier Nady and Justin Christian would all pick up RBI hits. The 14-9 lead would hold up.

Left unmentioned and forgotten would be Dan Giese, the real winner of this game. In relief of Rasner, Giese threw three one-hit innings, and his performance gave the Yanks a chance to get back into the game.

For the Yankees, this win delivered a four-game split of the weekend series with the Angels. More importantly, though, the Yanks showed that they could beat their archnemesis Angels. Had anyone hit on Friday, the Yanks could have walked away winners of three of four against Los Angeles, and next weekend, the Angels will have to face young Mr. Chamberlain.

Sunday’s game also showed what the Yankees could do. They were down, but not out, against a very tough bullpen, and they took advantage of the Angels’ mistakes. The newest Yankees — Nady and Pudge — went a combined 6 for 8 with seven RBIs and two home runs. The Yanks now face a very tough ten-game road trip, but they do so on a very good note. Joba goes later tonight, and there’s a lot of baseball left this year.

Kennedy makes his case; Charleston's offense explodes
The 'stache edition of 'And Now It's Gone'
  • cult of basebaal

    joba’s also lined up to start next saturday and i’m gonna haul my ass down to anaheim (note to the angels … when i live IN los angeles and it takes me 45 minutes to drive to your stadium, you’re NOT in los angeles.) and get a tasty seat for the experience. i hope to enjoy some lovely OC rally monkey wanker misery …

    lovely kick save of the series by the boys, this was shaping up to be a very long and painful weekend.

    • steve

      i’ll have to meet ya there …. ughh. i live in the valley it’ll take me an hour to get there.

  • Chofo

    Hi guys, I just wanted to share this with you.
    (I posted it in the last thread but since this new one was up just minutes later, I copied it here).

    Since I´m from another country in Central America I haven´t been able to attend a Yankee game in my life. I´m in Dallas with my boss working and, as you know, the Yanks are in town, but we are leaving tomorrow morning, with no way to stay, as we have a special meeting back home tomorrow night.

    So the closest to the Yankees I got was 12 hours away! Until tonight. To my surprise, I got in the elevator of the Crescent hotel (where we stayed) and there´s Pudge saying good night to Joba and Justin Christian. He was with his father, and we shook hands. When I went down to the lobby to get a coffee there´s was Mariano, and he was kind enough to take a picture with me. Of course, I talked to him in Spanish. Then came Jose Veras, another picture. By then a security agent came to ask me to not ask them to take pictures with me.

    I went to the restaurant in the hotel, a sushi bar, and many from the team were there. Two tables, one with the american players (Damon, Joba, Nady, Giese) and one with latin players (Abreu, Melky, Marte, Veras). They were all having white wine with the sushi, but all very quit and polite. It was interesting to see Jeter, all suited, with the latin players. He was the first one to go to bed… Mo was in the bar, by himself, not too confortable, as he sat and got up in the same place, many times, without drinking somenthing, and then left. Ponson was having a beer with Sexson on the bar too, talking about his next start. All I could hear walking by them was “You just need to have another start….” that’s it. No Arod, Moose, Pettite or Giambi.

    The security people around them wouldn´t let me aproach to the tables or even say hi to them, so I stayed for about ten minutes and left. I saw David Cone coming in on my way out.

    I wanted to share this with you all as this was my first time close to the team, but hopefully not the last. I want to make it to NY this year to watch a game before the stadium goes down.

    • steve (different one)

      cool story. thanks.

    • pat

      dude thats sick security would have escorted me out of the building for inappropriate hugging of joba chamberlain.

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      I’m sure that Giambi was in his hotel room, curled up in a ball in the corner of the suite, weeping over the departure of his moustache.

    • mustang

      Very nice

  • Steve A

    Overall I’m glad we split this series, but we came awfully close to taking 3 out of 4 from the major’s best team. A sign of good things to come, I hope.

    • Steve

      The Friday night 1-0 loss was one of the most frustrating of the year.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        I got blasted the last time I said this, but… the Angels are lucky. VERY lucky.

        On a night where a crappy pitcher channels the ghost of Rube Waddell and shuts down your lineup, and you face the Lord our Savior Incarnate in the 9th inning, 99 out of 100 you lose that game. The Angels are playing over their head. I’m worried about facing them in the postseason, because they have some good pitchers. But they are far from a lock for the series, they’re not as good as they appear.

  • dkidd

    is 6-4 too much to ask for on this road trip?

    • Steve

      Depends on what we get out of IPK and Ponson. But its time to raise expectations for this team. We can’t keep treading water if we want to make the playoffs.

    • A.D.

      Depends how it starts in Texas, Texas is a team that can basically roll over if the pitching gives them nothing

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        Joba, Pettite, Ponson the Prestidigitator, and Moosie against this Texas foursome-

        Monday: Vicente Padilla (4.52 ERA, 1.44 WHIP) worst 12-5 pitcher in the league, has 4 wins/ND’s where he’s allowed either 5 or 6 runs; ARod has a homer and two singles in 7 PA against him for 7 RBI
        Tuesday: Matt Harrison (7.40 ERA, 1.85 WHIP) 6th career start for the lefty, decent at best in the minors
        Wednesday: Tommy Hunter (10.80 ERA, 2.00 WHIP) 2nd career start for the righty, decent at best in the minors
        Thursday: Scott Feldman (4.97 ERA, 1.38 WHIP) allowing .298.415/.532 in the five starts since he beat us at the end of June, with 11 XBH, 16 BB, 21 runs, .947 OPS, and only 11 K in 27 innings – 6.67 ERA

        Plus, Joba and Pettitte lined up for games 2 and 3 of the Angels weekend series, with IPK probably in for Rasner in Game 1…

  • BigBlueAL

    Looking at the standings I was surprised, almost shocked, to see the run differentials of the top AL teams. The Red Sox have by far the best at +96 followed by the reeling White Sox at +65. Who is 3rd??? The Yankees at +55! Next are the Rays at +51 and the Angels at +46. Twins, now leading the AL Central, are next at a +33. Too bad its not playing out so far the same way in the actual standings….

    • Steve

      Run differential is a very good predictive stat. Its one of the reasons I think this stuff about the Angel being “the best team in Baseball” is overblown. They’re good, but they’ve been overachieving lately and the Red Sox are still the class of the AL. Although even they’re very beatable with that shaky middle relief. There isn’t a dominant team in the AL this year.

      The Yanks will be better with their new, more balanced lineup and once Rasner/Ponson are out of the rotation. Looks like Rasner’s out in favor of IPK, now we wait 2 weeks for Hughes to come back.

      After April I know its hard to rely too heavily on Hughes/Kennedy, but they can’t be much worse and their upside is much higher. I’m also excited by clips I’ve seen of Hughes in his rehab. He’s gone back to the 3/4 arm slot and throwing more sliders. His fastball is better and moves more from that angle. I think we’re finally going to see the guy who was the #1 prospect in Baseball.

      • kunaldo

        hey steve, where have you seen clips of hughes’ rehab?

      • steve (different one)

        one thing to note is that the Angels’ run differential to date doesn’t “include” Mark Teixeira.

        so they are probably even better than their Pythag at this point.

        but the same probably goes with the yankees with Nady and Pudge.

      • steve (different one)

        He’s gone back to the 3/4 arm slot and throwing more sliders. His fastball is better and moves more from that angle.

        if this is true, it is VERY encouraging news.

  • TurnTwo

    the yankees stand 2.5 games back of the wild card with 51 games left to play.

    in order to get to 92 wins, which seems to be a fair assumption of what it will take to be in WC contention, they need to win 31 of their next 51 games, or win 6 out of every 10 games they play from here on out.

    obviously, the better the saux and rays play, the better the yankees will have to play.

    but they have a number of head ot head games left which both teams down the stretch, which will help their odds.

    if this team is going to make the playoffs this season, they have no choice but to come home at least 6-4 on this road trip, which from what i figure, will probably include Francisco Liriano the final game before they come home.

    • Chris

      I don’t think the Yanks will get Liriano. The Twins have an off day on Thursday, so if they keep the rotation in order (and give every pitcher an extra day of rest) then we’ll miss Liriano. If they keep him on normal rest a skip someone else, then he’ll pitch the last game. Based on how long it took them to bring him up, I don’t think they’ll skip someone else just so he can face the Yankees.

      • TurnTwo

        i’m guessing they will skip someone else.

        dont forget, thjey are in a division race, too. if liriano is their best pitcher, which he is, they’re going to do what they have to in order to get him the most starts possible.

        • A.D.

          He is their best pitcher, but all of their pitchers are solid, they don’t have a black hole 5th starter, so chances are they’ll stick to the 5 man

  • Chris

    I know it seems like the Angels have a good bullpen, but their bullpen is actually worse than the Red Sox.

    Angels Bullpen ERA: 3.93
    Red Sox Bullpen ERA: 3.73

  • Jack

    This is off-topic, but I had to share it.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/08032008/postopinion/letters/pin_heads_122743.htm

    God, people are stupid.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      Brilliant. Now, I’d like for that guy to give me some insight into iinherited wealth in the Southern Colonies, including his thoughts on Wood and Vickers.

  • Mike C

    While I agree it would be nice to see Kennedy get another shot in the Bigs soon,I heard that his velocity is still a little low and they would like to see him throwing low 90s before they call him up.

    • Tim

      So you would prefer to see Rasner give it another go? There is no perfect solution here the Yanks just need to pick the least likely to implode.

      • Mike C

        no, not my preference, its just what i heard on the radio. i think kennedy should get a shot as soon as they feel he is ready. if he hasnt built up enough arm strength to throw his normal speed then perhaps giese should get the start.

    • A.D.

      Heard some rumors that Giese is going to make Rasner’s next start, something my colleagues heard on the radio, could just be speculation.

  • jsbrendog

    livan hernandez!! hahahahahahaha

    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha
    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha

    no but seriously, david wells?

  • mustang

    ” a completely meaningless single by A-Rod that did nothing to keep the inning alive or help the Yankees win the game since it was a hit by A-Rod,”

    “Had anyone hit on Friday, the Yanks could have walked away winners of three of four ”

    If A-Rod got a hit with RISP in either game you wouldn’t have to write either line and they would of won 3 out 4.
    However after a long argument with my follow commenter I have seen the light my expectations for A-Rod are just way to high.

    • mustang

      Agree with the thread otherwise especially the part about Nady the guy you didn’t want on this team because a trade for him would not make any sense for the Yankees this season and something about a career year or something.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        Mustang – as one of the people who argued against trading for Nady, I’ll go on record saying the reason I was against the proposed trade was the chatter seemed to have us giving up a LOT for Nady. As in, they were asking for one of our elite prospects like IPK or Humberto Sanchez.

        As it turns out, we got both Nady and Marte for not very much (just Tabata and Ohlendorf). The beef with the deal wasn’t that Nady isn’t good, it was that they seemed to be pricing him as an elite outfielder (which he’s not) rather than just a good outfielder (which he is) and thus, the bounty we’d have to give seemed too high. As it turns out, it wasn’t, the price was exceedingly reasonable.

        But yes, Nady is clearly having a career year and he probably won’t be this good next year. He’ll still be good enough to be above average and a solid part of our team, but he won’t be hitting .330 forever.

        • mustang

          I understand your point and I agree with the price argument, but some people said that Nady would not be a difference maker, which is what he was yesterday, and I think we continue to be.
          If he is having a career season then the Yankees now benefit from it and if he goes back to his old numbers next year he gone at the end of next season.
          Win-win situations.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

            Exactly Nady made sense on every single level, except the high price. Once the price obstacle disappeared, I’d think that every single opponent of the acquisition would logically end their opposition.

    • Old Ranger

      So, what’s wrong whit having high expectations? We have them for the team, why not for A-Rod or for that matter Jeter also? I’m getting very upset with all the DPs Jeter hits into…but, that’s baseball for you. 27/08?

  • Michael T

    Joba should be getting more love in RoY voting, likely hurt by his W-L numbers and split time as a starter and bullpen. HIs VORP is #10 in the AL among all pitchers, despite laggin in innings worked. He has league-leading Ks per 9 and a miniscule HR-against rate for pitchers throwing near 100 innings. And his BABIP of .317 suggest he has been relatively unlucky.

    The boy is scary good.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      That is totally curious. At first, I assumed that he must have been left off because he pitched enough last year to not qualify as a rookie, but no – caps are 50 IP or 45 days on an active roster, not counting September (or the postseason). So, he slides under on both counts, as does IPK.

      RotoJunkie apparently has a Weekly BlogPoll where they survey a handful of baseball blogs to see who likes whom for Cy, MVP, and RoY… and apparently, they’ve got some screwed up sample rates. (Sorry, most recent I could find is from 2 weeks ago…)

      ——————————————-

      A.L. MVP Voting:
      1. Ian Kinsler – 25%
      2. Josh Hamilton – 19%
      3. Milton Bradley – 15%
      4. Grady Sizemore – 13%
      5. J.D. Drew – 11%
      6. Alex Rodriguez – 6%
      7. Joe Mauer, Justin Morneau and Evan Longoria – 3%
      8. Jermaine Dye – 2%
      9. Manny Ramirez – 1%

      A.L. Cy Young Voting:
      1. Cliff Lee – 45%
      2. Justin Duchscherer and Roy Halladay – 24%
      3. Daisuke Matsuzaka, Ervin Santana, and John Lackey – 2%
      4. Mariano Rivera and John Danks – 1%

      A.L. Rookie of the Year Voting:
      1. Evan Longoria – 55%
      2. Jacoby Ellsbury – 15%
      3. Nick Blackburn – 13%
      4. David Murphy – 8%
      5. Greg Smith – 5%
      6. Joba Chamberlain -3%
      7. Mike Aviles and Armando Galarraga – 1%

      —————————————

      I know they’re having great offensive seasons and all, but seriously, Arlington is such a bandbox, I think Kevin Millwood strained his groin tripping over trombones and tubas in the dugout. Can we show a little perspective?

      And while nobody can argue against Longoria for RoY, Jake Pillsbury is a joke. A non-funny one. 5 times as many bloggers think he’s having a better season than Joba? Are you smoking? I looked back in their archives… a month ago, he was LEADING the voting. Does Peter Gammons have nothing better to do with his time than to pay IT lackeys at the Worldwide Leader to write code enabling him to generate countless dummy IP addresses and net handles to mass-vote for his favorite Crimson Hosers across the interwebs?

      I’m half shocked that Varitek isn’t getting votes for MVP.

  • Michael T

    Joba qualifies- I saw it on a Jim Callis chat I think you have the Innings pitched and days on roster count right.

    Ellsbury is a joke. The guy plays corner outfield and is OPS-ing .675, with a whopping 21 XDH in 375 ABs. He’s bascially Melky with wheels resulting in a few extra leg-hits. But he isnt playing CF and he has no arm. I think he has a negative VORP while Joba is +40 or so. (Too lazy to look it back up).

    Pedroia is having a legitimate top-10 MVP year though. 10th in the league in VORP and putting up big offensive stats while play plus D up the middle.

  • mustang

    Personal insult very original that’s exactly why we are here it’s not to talk about baseball.

  • mustang

    Please when you address my comments read all of them if you did the last thing you would say is that I’m A-Rod hater. I, like a lot of people here, get upset about his hitting with RISP that’s it. LIKE I WROTE BEFORE I would like nothing better then to watch A-Rod hit .300 with RISP, break the HR recorded and win a World Series MVP.

  • mustang

    They haven’t won a championship since he been here either that also says it all.

  • mustang

    I know not his fault.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

    “They haven’t won a championship since he been here either that also says it all.”

    No it doesn’t. It doesn’t say anything about HIM. It says something about the TEAM, and the main thing that it says is that winning a championship is really damn hard to do, no matter how supremely talented you are (which he is), and you have to be both good and lucky and get breaks to break your way.

    By that logic, the fact that the Yankees never made it to a World Series says a lot about Don Mattingly. Do you think that statement has a shred of truth to it?

  • mustang

    Those damn exceptions again.

  • mustang

    Yes, I guess your right, but I meant the comment to be half smartass any way I know he can’t do it alone.
    About Don Mattingly in his only post-season appearance he went .417/. 440/. 708 and this was when he was well past his prime if they got that from A-Rod I wouldn’t have any beef.
    But like keep saying A-Rod will get his chances.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

    Dude, Mattingly had 24 at bats. That’s nothing. That’s the lifespan of a fruitfly. You can’t draw any comparison from that.

  • Realist

    Don’t even bother mustang…you and I have an opinion that differs from all the others who buy into all the hype. We don’t hate ARod, we have both said that ad naseum but certain people just can’t get that through their thick skulls and never will.

    I, and I believe you as well, wish he would produce when it counts which he doesn’t. A single that keeps the inning alive is what makes him a super star in their minds and that’s their right. Just as it’s our right to feel a player of his stature should do more in those situations.

    I believe it has been beaten to death and not worth arguing with people I usually get along with….just like that every prospect NY has is an AllStar in the making. Not one ounce of reality in any of it….

  • Realist

    So now I am stupid?

    When a player is being touted as one of the alltime greats and constantly fails to produce in situations which win games than he isn’t the player you deem nor worth the sum he is payed.

    Walking and hitting meaningless singles isn’t producing in these situations…while striking out and popping out are more the norm…but hey if that’s what makes you guys happy than have at it..

    Btw,I would be happy to meet you face to face so you can call me stupid…..then break your fucking jaw!

  • mustang

    And A-Rod has had 45 at bats I guess you can’t draw any comparison from that either.

  • mustang

    But the numbers are still there.