Yanks to offer Cash an extension

Game 120: Taking the series
Gammons: Manny not on the radar, but CC is

Let the Brian Cashman debates begin. According to Sports Illustrated’s Jon Heyman, the Yankees plan to offer Brian Cashman an extension when the long-time GM’s contract runs out in the fall.

Writes Heyman:

Never mind the Yankees’ current standing in third place, or their recent struggles. Both Steinbrenner brothers are now said by people familiar with their thinking to be on board with Brian Cashman as their general manager, for now and long into the future. Even if the Yankees fail to play into October for the first full season since 1993, club insiders say that the Steinbrenners plan to offer Cashman a contract extension after this season.

At the start of the season, as we well know, Cashman’s long-term prospects in the New York seemed to hinge on this season. He had very publicly — and with an assist from Hal Steinbrenner — declined to give up prospects (and perhaps Chien-Ming Wang) in a trade for Johan Santana and was putting his chips in the development basket. Now, we sit in mid-August, and the Yanks are firmly ensconced in third place, a distant five games behind Boston in the Wild Card.

Yet, as Heyman notes, the Steinbrenners have reportedly latched onto the positives this year. The Yanks organization looks very strong with Austin Jackson and Jesus Montero leading the charge. Plus, Cashman gained major points for his seeming coup in acquiring Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte for nothing more than Jose Tabata and a bunch of mid-level prospects.

Meanwhile, if the Yanks are serious about a new approach involving smart investing in free agency and developing quality youngsters from within, it never made sense to hold Cashman’s feet to the fire based on just the 2008 season. The Yankees are going to have to ride out a plan that takes a few years to see through, and that means Brian Cashman should return. Hopefully, Heyman’s report contains the truth. Hopefully, Cashman doesn’t jump ship to Seattle. Hopefully, the Yanks’ new approach will work for years to come.

Game 120: Taking the series
Gammons: Manny not on the radar, but CC is
  • Eric

    we need some new blood. Cash has been terrible the past few years.

    • Joey H

      and how do you figure?hes mad good moves for us. why has he been terrible? cause he didnt get santana? ur blind man

    • Steve

      He has consistently made one sided trades since assuming control of the baseball ops in 2004. The Abreu/Lidle deal, The Nady/Marte deal, Pudge for Farnsworth. Other good ones were Proctor/Bubba Crosby for a soon to be retired Robin Venture. I still think the Sheffield deal will pay dividends, Sanchez is on the way back and Claggett has been dominant in AA.

      The only criticism of Cash is a handful of free agent signings (Pavano, Wright, Farnsworth, Hawkins) and the reality is they were in each case the best player available at the time. They didn’t work out here, but you don’t have a crystal ball. Look at the stats of each player the year before they were signed. They were the best player available.

      Even LaTroy Hawkins. Look at LaTroy’s 2007 stats compared to the other available relievers and then factor in the Yanks only wanted someone for 1 year because they knew they had a ton of bullpen arms on the way in the system. He had better numbers than almost every other reliever, and in Coors field no less.

  • stephen

    everybody talkabout how volatile hank steinbrenner is, but i think hes more talk than anything. People want to project george’s propensity for making rash moves, but he has yet to do any such thing

    • Lanny

      Thats because Hank has no power.

      If he did, Santana would be taking the ball every 5th day.

    • Steve

      Yep. He can’t make a move w/o Hal, which was detailed a zillion times in the off season. Hank can say whatever he wants, its good copy for the tabloids and talk shows but it means very little.

  • mko

    I say keep Cash…he has pulled some nice trades out of his ass and our farm system is finally working again. At least pitching wise…
    I’d wish he’d go after free agents more aggressively, e.g. landing CC and Tex…
    But I doubt that anybody else could do better.

    • Steve

      Like who? Was there a big free agent available that was the answer to the Yanks problems that I missed?

      BTW-I think with all the money they have coming off the books they will be aggressive in the FA market this year. I expect big offers to be made to Tex and CC.

  • Adam

    i agree with the USS Mariner guys: if i am seattle i want chris antonetti to be my GM anyway. he seems like a better fit for a rebuilding team on a budget. cashman, through no fault of his own has never had to rebuild or strictly adhere to a budget. it doesn’t mean that he can’t, but he is also not a lock to succeed in seattle. selfishly however, i want antonetti to get the seattle job because i want the cash man to stay right where he is. but, if cashman leaves, i vote for DePo.

  • Mikey G.

    every midseason pick that everyone says is brilliant is a band aid for another of cashman’s mistakes. he is the reason the yankees are falling apart and why they will bend over backwards to overpay CC Sabathia in the off season. Hank and Hal don’t care as long as the money keeps coming in. Cashman is just a numbers guy who needs better scouts. . . or some cojones.

    I’m taking bets, CC will be on the DL before next June.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      every midseason pick that everyone says is brilliant is a band aid for another of cashman’s mistakes.

      Doesn’t that apply to every move though?

  • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily Eric SanInocencio

    My only problem with giving Cashman credit for the so-called “youth” resurgence and new plan in place is that he was in charge for the last plan that has put the Yankees in this predicament.

    The amount of holes and dead weight on a team with a 200 plus million dollar payroll cannot be easily discounted. I mean I give him some credit for realizing the ship was shinking, but it was mainly his decisions that put the organization in that position.

    Considering the money spent on the Wrights, Pavanos and Ulder Units are a key part to why the current pitching staff is in shambles. Think about it, for having 200 million to spend should a team employ so many black holes in their lineup and be running out two guys in the rotation that can’t break 90 miles per hour?

    It’s tough to judge the entire Cashman era, because you don’t know much involvement there was up above him. I understand he gained more power with his last extension, but he was still the general manager during some of the worst signings in terms of years and dollars that have put the 2008 Yankees in the position they are. Tough to judge. What did he inherit and what he is ultimately responsible for? That’s for the Yankee brass to decide.

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      You cannot claim that Brian Cashman was the one in charge when poor decisions were made, and then simultaneously wonder how much involvment he actually had while the plan was in place. This much cannot be disputed, however: Cashman was on record as recently as 2004 for saying that he had absolutely ZERO input on the amateur drafting and development process for the Yankee Front Office. As soon as he gained input on that side of baseball operations and delegated Damon Oppenheimer as his amateur guru, the Yankee farm system immediately improved.

      So yes, you can absolutely give Cashman credit for the youth movement and the resurgent farm system.

      I think it’s also worth noting that Brian Cashman had a ~$120 million extension for 7 years on the table for Derek Jeter in the 1999, one that Derek Jeter was willing to sign, that George Steinbrenner pulled off the table. So there’s considerable evidence that the ballooning payroll cannot be pinned entirely on Cashman’s shoulders, either. Not that he isn’t partly responsible for some moves – the A-Rod and Clemens trades and the Mike Mussina signing come to mind – but at least one of the more disasterous free agent deals (Jason Giambi, plus the Derek Jeter extension relative to the one Cashman had on the table) can be traced to George Steinbrenner.

      • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily Eric SanInocencio

        I understand he’s done good to great things in terms of player development in the past three years, but you have to look at the shortcomings of the major league squad and atrritubute them to the mistakes made during his reign.

        Having guys over 34 (Posada, Giambi, Jeter, Abreu, Matsui, Damon, Pettite, Mussina, Rivera) making 140 million plus is a problem. That’s not even counting the entirely dead weight that is Carl Pavano (10 million) and Kei Igawa (46 million). Who else would be allowed to make such pricey mistakes?

        Think about the team the New York Yankees have run out there for the majority of this season (Melky, Molina, Rasner, Giese, Traber, etc.). For 210 million dollars that’s the best you can do? How did it get to this point where a rebuilding stage and youth movement was a must with a team that has nearly unlimited resources?

        All I know that the GM in charge during this entire time has been Brian Cashman.

        I’m not advocating his removal, just trying to paint the whole picture. You can’t praise him for the resurgence without laying blame for allowing his major league squad to become bloated and overpaid. That’s not realistic.

        • E-ROC

          Those guys over 34 are terrible. I can’t wait ’til their contracts expire.

          • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily Eric SanInocencio

            They aren’t terrible now, but you can’t forescast them doing anything but getting worse the remaining length of their contracts. Again, I’m not saying Cashman should be fired, but there is alot to digest in terms of what has been done during his tenure.

        • cult of basebaal

          yah know, this isn’t nurenberg. “i was only following orders” IS a legitimate defense.

          you fail to separate the realities of command during the period between 2000 and 2005, specifically, that there was a difference between strategic and tactical command of the organization during that time.

          brian cashman was not in strategic command during that time. he did not set the overall tone and direction and path of the organization. he had input, as many others did, but in the end, one man, with absolute power and his own highly developed and stubborn sense of appointment and self-certainty, determined not only the overall strategic direction but also made far reaching decisions on how smaller tactical decisions were decided.

          someone in particular spring to mind that fits that description, perhaps?

          or, let’s look at a historical analogue.

          we’ll say that cashman is General von Paulus
          george is, well, that guy with the funny mustache
          and the winter of 2001 is the fall of 1941

          Brian von Paulus: “Mein Steinbrenner! We are overextended! We must pull back and consolidate. If give up some ground and build our forces, we will be stronger in the future and can Win Again!!!”

          Adolf Steinbrenner: “RETREAT?!?!? There is no retreat! There is glory or there is failure and we do not FAIL! I order you to return to the offensive and carry the day.

          vP: “Our current forces have been on the front lines for several years now. If we don’t act they will become worn out and need replacement!”

          S: “Fine! Send for the Giambi Corps if you need reinforcements!”

          vP: “But Mein Steinbrenner! If we don’t pull back, we will be surrounded, cut off from our necessary supplies.

          S: “Surrounded? Pah! The Tampawaffe and Marshall Hermann Garrett will see to all your supply needs; they promised me themselves! Now call up the Giambi Corp and resume the attack!”

          vP: “Yes, Mein Steinbrenner!”

          Thus endeth the historical analogue …

          Did Cashman make mistakes during the time in question. Yeah, I think that’s clear, but i think his actions after the point where he *did* assume something approaching a strategic command of the organization make it clear that his strategic preferences were such that had he had clear control in 2001, the path that the organization would have taken would have been very different and much closer to the manner in which it is run currently. Tactical mistakes made in support of an erroneous Strategic campaign are not to be simply written off, but they have to be evaluated in the context of how the strategic directives force themselves upon the tactical decision making.

          • Old Ranger

            Very nice, you captured it creatively! 27/09?

          • Babe’s Ghost

            definitely Post of the Day!

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  • Joey H

    cash is a great GM. and a magician when it comes to pulling off unforseen trades. give him a 7 year deall. im a huge cash fan

  • http://deleted Randy

    i think its smart to bring him back. he’s had enough guts to overhaul the former yankee approach and has adjusted to the new way of how organizations field a major league team and the minor league system. we have to remember that some of those moves he made were at the order of george and not solely his choice. he has clearly made some bad moves, none worse than wright and igawa, but i think he has done a great job in many other ways. the various failures of this team this year can’t be attributed to cashman. people have been ineffective, questionable managing at times and of course the injuries. we have to see if this new plan will work.

    • jsbrendog

      igawa was a bust yes and even more so because who else even wanted him and put in a posting fee bid?

      pavano was a disaster but cannot be blamed on cashman because if he didn’t sign him someone else would have for whatw e gave him or a little less. he was in high demand at the tiem coming off a very good yr.

      wright and womack were extremely stupid but hey, whatever.

      cashman is the man for this job, he has been with the organization for ever and knows what he wants to do and how to do it and with a good scouting infrastructure and the backing of management he can get thigns done, as seen by his mid season trades throughout hsi tenure here.

      • Ivan

        I’ll still think if Pavano was healthy he would of help this team out man.

        • jsbrendog

          agreed. and he was in high demand at the time of his signing and came to ny because his dad was yanks fan or some shit if i remember correctly. it wasnt cashman overpaying an aging star for his twilight yrs, it was cashman maybe slightly overpaying (but then lok at what gil meche and the like s of carlos silva got) for a young pticher seemingly hitting his prime who seems to finally have figured it out and lvied up to the guy who was traded for pedro.

          but then he became a fricking human peanut brittle

    • Steve

      I have never believed for one second that Igawa was a Cashman move. That has knee jerk “Steinbrenner reacting to the BoSox getting Dice-K” written all over it.

      When he showed up in camp, everyone knew he had nothing. Don’t tell me Cash didn’t have scouts tell him that before hand. You don’t bid 42 mil on a player you haven’t scouted.

      Say what you want about Cash, he’s a rational guy.

  • stuart

    good.. All the need to do is llow Cashman to do his job with no interference from Tampa and they will be a very good team for a long long time.

    Cashman is a very good GM.. Does he make mistakes absolutely but he at least learns from them..

    When was the last big signing? No more Giambi crap contracts especially for older pitchers..

    Yanks looked as stupid as usual today.

    Cano had a especially smart game today, he is always thinking out there!!!!

    • Steve

      The Yanks have a big financial edge in the domestic draft and Int’l market for high end talent, despite their annual low draft slots. They are finally drafting guys with high ceilings and letting them develop, which will pay dividends for many years to come.

      It also gives him far greater flexibility with the roster, which has been the most frustrating part of recent Yankee veteran laden teams. Veterans who are under performing and making too much money to do anything about it. Can’t send them down to AAA, can’t release them. At least with the youngsters, if they don’t produce they get sent right back to AAA.

  • Joey

    Hey guys, got a Crackberry yesterday and I’m proud to say this was the first site I visited on it, and the first time I’m posting with it (even though my laptop is right next to me). Any tips or anything would be helpful, first one.

    Just need to add that I love Cash-money and I really hope he’ll be back. But these stories you never know with, so if not I’d like to see Oppy get a chance, but he has said in the past he loves his position now scouting and would like to stay there.

    Anyway, now that I got a BB, can I add “Posted by Mobile Phone” to my posts to make them look fancy ;-)

    —That was what I was gonna post by mobile phone (so I’m on the laptop), but of course I don’t have Java enabled or something. Uh, oh well…

  • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily Eric SanInocencio

    Last big signing? How about Jorge Posada missing almost the entire first year of a 4 yr/56 million dollar deal handed out to him at age 36? Or the two deals to Matsui and Damon for 13 million per? I mean you don’t get to 210 million without every deal. Let’s be fair.

    • Pettitte’s Stare

      Posada had never been on the DL before and who were you going to replace him with? Yes, we overpaid but would you probably would have been complaining in spring training if we went into the season as Molina as our starting catcher. We paid above market price but posada is still a good offense player and he is a face of the francise. We all knew that Damon and matsui would be rough on the backend of their contracts but they were good at the begining of the contracts. Every team has bloated contracts. I’m sure the Royals wanted to pay Mike Sweeney when he was on their team, the whitesox must love paying Konerko.

      • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily Eric SanInocencio

        That’s my point. You should never been in dire straights to have to sign a 36 year old catcher if you try and execute and plan accordingly. Cashman had to sign him, had no choice, because he (or the organization, whomever you choose to blame) was not in position in terms of having any suitable replacement in the minors. They also failed to use their strength (young RHP) to obtain a future replacement through trade.

        This is a problem that gets overlooked with New York because they have so much money. But it doesn’t mean its smart business by the general manager.

        • cult of basebaal

          except they *didn’t* have a surplus of RHP that could be exchanged for a good young catcher. they knew they needed that for the starting rotation. and, as events this year have shown they were right.

          i’m not sure you really get the situation. they didn’t have a replacement for posada because he got traded to fix the pitching problem. why was there a pitching problem? because the farm system was an afterthought to the man in strategic command of the organization. the only reason the yankees had a championship run was because that man wasn’t able to exert his dependably destruction method of team building (spend, spend, spend, but only on free agents) while he was suspended from baseball.

          cashman made some bad tactical decisions, but they resulted from having to follow strategic decisions that were ultimately far worse.

        • Babe’s Ghost

          We did have a catching prospect who recently played in the all star game and is currently playing for the league leading Rays.

          Why isn’t he in pinstripes? Because George had to have Randy…
          How is that Cashman’s fault?

  • dkidd

    pro-cash: the system is stocked with pitching

    anti-cash: every ml position player is 35 years old and making too much money (not literally, but you get the idea)

    personally, i’d like to see cashman get a few more years of actual autonomy and see how the organization looks in 2010.

  • dkidd

    and as long as i’m dreaming, how about this outfield for 2010?

    lf: jeter
    cf: ajax
    rf: nady

    • Reggie C.

      LF: Manny Ramirez
      CF: A-jax (rookie)
      RF: Nady

      That’s my dream outfield. That better be Cashman’s dream outfield.

      • jsbrendog

        just say no to man-ram

        “hey, kid. you wanna try man-ram? all the ids are doing it”


        “you’re a chicken.”

        “I’m not a chicken you’re a turkey!”

      • Steve

        “Better be”? Is your last name Steinbrenner?

        If its not, you’re blowing smoke out of your ass.

  • Ivan

    I think it’s the right move. Again, has Cashman made mistakes yes, but his positive contributions have outweight those.

    I think the yanks are in very good shape next season. Player development is still solid, yes this team is old but it is getting younger slightly.

    If the Yankee organization want to continue with this new philosophy, in alot ways you gotta keep Cash.

    Again, after the 08 season, alot money will come off the books, new Stadium, we have some up and coming talent, we still have current players despite the age are still performing at a high level (Mo and A-Rod) and also just viewing this season alot things that usually go our way are not. I mean cleveland had a similar year in 06, same year that Boston finish 3rd place which is probably gonna happen to the yanks and that Boston team won the WS the next season.

    Hey before you experience Joy, you gotta feel pain just like with players like Hughes and Kennedy for example. Besides we been to the Playoffs every year, shit we should be the first team to get the benefit of the doubt.

    Hey, and we still got a over a month left in the season so shit can happen. As a yankeefan, I tell you my fellow yankee brothers and sisters, like 2Pac said, Keep Ya Head Up.

  • Adrian-Retire21

    Lets not get to crazy on young devolpment until it happens.Wang has been in the DL every year since coming up and Cano looks horrible.

    Kennedy,Hughes and Joba injuries and bad pitching stems from the Yankees overagressive approch to getting younger.Some prospects won’t turn out great but without smart free agency moves we wil never win.

    • Ivan

      But Wang has develop into a front-line pitcher. And Cano is an All-Star 2Baseman who’s having a bad year who will bounce back next season.

      Yes the young trio of pitching hasn’t worked out but next season, barring injuries they can certainly improve especially Hughes. The worst case that could happen did happen with Joba Hughes and Kennedy. You can atribute that to bad luck.

      • Reggie C.

        Cano will likely bounce back next season , but to what?? A .285 BA / .375 Slg / .350 OBP line would represent a big improvement over this season.

        Cano isn’t even the best 2B in the AL east. he’s got alot of ground to make up.

        • jsbrendog

          cano keeps pissing me off and i dont know what tonthink, wang can go to the dl every yr if he wins 19 games that season for all i care. joba has the makings of a star and find a young pitcher these days who didnt or doesnt go through some arm trouble at some point before they become big. its like tommy john and rotator cuff surgery are the new cool in thing.

          hughes, not sure, good upside, kennedy tho is pitchign like the 39 yr old version of moose but at 23 or whatever. his FB was at 89 durign hsi start and he comes out and doesn’t care? peace dude, have a ncie minor league career

          • Lanny

            Cano at a .350 OBP? He’d need to hit .350 for that.

            • steve (different one)

              uh, he’s already had 2 full seasons with an OBP over .350.

              i know 2007 was so long ago that it’s impossible to remember.

          • Chris

            Cano has been at .299/.332/.446 since May 1.

        • Ivan

          Iight so Pedroia has passed him this seson. Yes he has struggled with the bat and etc. Nevertheless, I still think he will bounce back. Also if he does bounce back, his slg% is gonna much higher than .375. The guy has enormous talent. Plus, he has hit through some back luck.

          The guys loves baseball and you heard stories of watching tape with his dad on his swing so he is deticated of improving his game.

          Cano will improve in a big way watch.

    • Old Ranger

      Injuries are part of baseball (see Tampa bay) starting those guys had nothing to do with their injuries. It could’ve happened at AAA.
      I didn’t follow FA that much (not many out there), the only one I thought might be of use to us was Santana. But when I hear the price tag; players and $$$$, forget it.
      One thing you said I agree with is smart FA moves, if there is someone good and under 30. The old FA moves of a few years ago (’60-’80s) would help us win now, but then we were stuck with an old broken down hasbeen with a high price tag. 27/09?

  • Old Ranger

    A few of you seem to think Cash should go, nothing wrong with that. Others like his work with the Yankees…sense 2005 or 06. It seems as though one is either for or against him…we don’t count those on both sides.
    One must admit he has done a very good job with the MiLs’…if we had higher picks, it would have helped a lot. He has made some good pick-ups in season…Bobby, X-Man, Marte for almost nothing. This is the Yankees, every time we want a player, the other GM jacks up the price.
    The Yanks should try and sign him to a long term extension.
    The 27/08 didn’t help us win, I’ll just keep 27/09 for next year. All though it would be nice for it to be wrong and we trash everone this year. 27/09?

  • MD

    if Cash really wants to build from within, he will stay here, since we have about 5-6 first/sandwich picks coming to us next year.

  • Lanny

    I think it’s time for new blood here. Cashman hasn’t impressed me with how he picks pitchers.

    Would it hurt to get a new GM in here? There are plenty of talented guys out there that would love the resources the Yankees bring to the table.

    Stop making it seem like no one can do this job here.

    Cashman is still living off Stick and Bucks moves.

    • Chris

      He’s still living off other people’s moves now that he’s been GM for almost 10 years?

      Here’s a question: How many other GMs have made the playoffs every year that they were GM?

    • Old Ranger

      He didn’t pick the drafted players, Oppi does that job, Cash gets them to sign. Cash asked Oppi to do the job and he accepted, as long as he had full control. Cash gave it to him, and he has done very well. 27/09?

      • steve (different one)

        Cashman is still living off Stick and Bucks moves.

        you mean Stick, the guy who left Mariano exposed in the expansion draft?

        or Watson, the guy who traded Tony Armas Jr. for half a season of Mike Stanley which prevented the Yankees from getting Pedro?

        even in the midst of a dynasty, mistakes were made.

        no GM is perfect.

        Cashman is basically a Stick protege. Stick is one of Cashman’s advisors.

        it was the marginalization of Cashman and Stick in 2003-2005 that got the Yankees into this mess in the first place.

        left to his own devices, that’s who Cashman would emulate. build your system, be aggressive in the international FA market, supplement with key trades (it’s too early to tell obviously, but Nady doesn’t remind anyone of the Paul O’Neill trade??), and go after a few free agents.

        look for that mix of youth and veterans.

        that’s what Cashman would do if left alone. not trade for Raul Mondesi or sign Gary Sheffield over Vlad Guerrero.

        Cashman deserves another 2 years.

  • Reggie C.

    Forget about re-signing Cashman.

    Get both Brian Kenney and Max Kellerman. Those 2 yankee enthusiasts can do the job.

    No. Really. I’m serious.

    • Steve

      Ahh yes. The two mad scientists.

      Can you say “Frankenstein”?

  • steve (different one)

    wow, after the way the yankees played on this road trip, i expected this thread to be MUCH more negative.

    but with the exception of a few dissenters, it seems like most of the people here can see the big picture.

    Cashman has made some mistakes. but for the most part, he is a strong GM. he’s been walking a tightrope the last 2-3 years trying to fill holes to contend while the farm system developed and the player development machine got going. changing an entire organization can’t happen overnight.

    finally, the tightrope gave out this season with all of the injuries. it happens.

    every “elite” GM has a season like this on their resume. Shapiro, Epstein, Beane, Scheurholz, Ryan, Towers, Dombrowski. all of them.

    for those that think Cashman is bad, go look at the impending disaster in Detroit. and most people think Dombrowski is one of the better GMs. but he has no pitching, and worse than that, all of the pitchers he has are locked into contracts for the next 3 years. he traded most of his farm system for Cabrera and Renteria.

    this offseason is what they have been waiting for. it’s the perfect storm for the Yankees. new stadium, tons of contracts expiring, and a VERY strong free agent class.

    the Yankees will make a big splash this offseason, and i hope Cashman is there to usher in the new and improved 2009 Yankees.

    • Steve

      “every “elite” GM has a season like this on their resume. Shapiro, Epstein, Beane, Scheurholz, Ryan, Towers, Dombrowski. all of them.”

      And every one of them has a few bad trades on their resume as well. If you look at their overall track record and they have more good ones than bad, then you have a good GM. Cashman is a good GM by that measure.

      You have to look at FA signings the year they happen, not after the fact. Nobody has a crystal ball. Pavano was a huge coup when it happened. Who could have even predicted he’d melt under pressure of NY? He was GREAT in the 2003 playoffs/World series.

      Conversely, you have to wait and look at trades years later to see who got the better of the deal. Again, he’s had many more good ones than bad ones.

  • http://RiverAve.Blues Joseph M

    Plain and simple their is no way in hell Cashman should be retained. Let’s keep in mind, to those whom much has been given much will be expected in return. Cashman has been operating with the highest payroll in all of basball by miles and he’s 0 for the 21st Century. No championships and some of the most spectacular collapses in baseball history. I blame him for Torre being retained after 2006. I blame him for Kevin Brown, Vasquez, Tony Womack and Igawa, the Chris Hammond signing. I blame him for Randy Johnson for failing to resign Jeff Nelson (Torre did not want Nelson back, this move I always felt cost the team the 2001 title). I blame him for failing to sign Ortiz (keep in mind George was never afraid of having too many players at one position), I blame him for allowing the Yankee bench to decline to the level it is at now. The age of the club today is one of the main reasons we are getting the bad results, who answers for that.

    Hank to me is alot of talk very little action, he shouldn’t fear the future he should embrace it. Go out, get a modern baseball man (maybe Buck) who can evaluate the very ordinary results of some lackluster work and get this franchise moving again.

    We could be looking at some serious downtime with respect to Yankee pennants and titles and I have zero level of confidence in Cashman righting this ship.

    He’s made a couple of good trades but most have been salary dumps that no one else wanted any part of.

  • Hitman

    Cashman appears to have made nice draft choices but his decisions as a GM leave alot to be desired. His trading record is so so at best and his FA signings have been awful. Has anyone noticed how every player he trades for never lasts longer than 1-2 years? This guy never takes any chances on young talent. Brian Bruney has been his only successful pickup in this regard. He’s actually more prone to trade away young players for nothing. If he is given an extention let it be no more than 2 years. When a better GM becomes available the yankees should not hesitate to sign him instead.