Game 150: Immortality awaits

Jorge Posada, M.D.
Yanks beat another playoff team, but Joba the main story

Thanks to his 9 for 11 binge over the weekend, Derek Jeter now stands tied with Lou Gehrig for the most hits in Yankee Stadium history. With Mark Buerhle on the bump for the ChiSox tonight, whom Jeter has hit .455 against in his career, there’s a good chance the lucky folks in the Stadium will witness history tonight.

Beloved by New Yorkers yet ridiculed for being over-rated everywhere else, Jeter’s legacy is being etched right before our eyes. It won’t be long before he’s the franchise’s all-time leaders in both the good (hits, games played, stolen bases, runs scored, marriage proposals) and bad categories (outs made, times caught stealing, GIDPs), the mark of longevity.

In 50 years we’ll be telling our grandkids about the immortal Derek Jeter and all of his superhuman accomplishments. Drink it in; you may never see a greater Yankee.

1. Damon, LF
2. Jeter, SS
3. Abreu, RF
4. A-Rod, 3B
5. Giambi, 1B
6. Nady, DH
7. Ransom, 2B – .368 OPS during the Rays series … that’s what you call “getting exposed when thrust into full-time duty,” kids
8. Moeller, C
9. Gardner, CF – three games in a row? what is this, a tryout or something?

And on the mound, the Mexican Gangster himself, Al Aceves.

Notes: Joe Girardi is blaming himself for the Yanks’ season … Jorge Posada thinks Joba belongs in the bullpen. He should leave the analysis to those of us still living in our mothers’ basements … No DotF tonight; everyone’s season is over

Jorge Posada, M.D.
Yanks beat another playoff team, but Joba the main story
  • Ivan

    Are you calling us geeks Mike?

  • BigBlueAL

    Mike, Ive told you this before. Some of us actually have our own rooms!!!!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I know, you guys are lucky!

    • Jack

      Basements have rooms. What’s your point?

    • E-ROC

      We don’t have a basement.

  • E-ROC

    I wonder if Ozzie Guillen give Jeter his blessing to marry his daughter, lol.

  • ko

    Derek’s the best. Its been a pleasure to watch him play these thirteen years. We should be able to get another three or four Hall of Fame callibre years from him – he’s a great athlete who keeps himself in great shape.
    Also, I agree with Posada on Chamberlain. He hurt himself in Texas overthrowing his fastball for six innings when his breaking stuff didn’t work. As a reliever, he can only overthrow for an inning or two. Big difference in whether he survives. Also, Joba can dominate by letting it loose throwing in the high nineties out of the pen, he doesn’t have that luxury as a starter.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      So how do you explain his 2.76-ERA as a starter? You know, his starter’s ERA that ranks as the best in the AL and the third best in the Majors?

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      Okay, so your argument is, rather than:

      A) teach him how to pitch

      we should:

      B) waste him in the bullpen.

      … riiiiiight.

    • Steve H

      Go back 20 years and make a fantasy draft of pitchers you’d want on your real world team. Clemens/Pedro/Unit, etc. Now let me know when you get to your 2nd reliever (after Mo of course)………. If my list was 20, 19 would be starters. Joba has the pitches and the potential to be a starter, which is 1,000,000 times more valuable than a middle reliever. And where is the proof that a pitcher is more likely to get hurt as a starter? What’s more stressful 100 pitches every 5 days, or 15-30 pitches several times a week including back to back days? This is non-sense. Why didn’t the Marlins put Josh Beckett in the pen when he had injury problems when he was younger? I’ll answer, cause it’s a WASTE of talent/ability.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Tru dat. I guess the #2 reliever would have to be Hoffman. Or maybe Wagner.

        • Steve H

          And they would be waaaay down on the list.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Cat-like reflexes!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Nice job, dummy.

  • Ivan

    Nice throw moeller.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Thanks for the out. Gotta love Ozzieball.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

    Fun fact of the day:

    Latroy Hawkins (he of the 2007 Colorado Rockies team that won 21 of it’s final 22 games to grab the NL WildCard and make one of the most improbable runs to the World Series ever) was dealt by the Yankees to the Astros at the end of July for a minor league prospect after he bombed in pinstripes (to the tune of a 5.71 ERA and .725 OPS allowed in 33 appearances in New York.)

    At the time of the deal, the Yankees were 59-49 and the Astros were 50-57.

    In Houston, LaTroy Hawkins has made 16 appearances out of the Astros ‘pen and has yet to allow a run. He’s got 19 K’s against 3 BB’s in 13 innings. His OPS allowed is .329; he’s turned opposing hitters into Brett Gardner. The Astros have a record of 14-2 in those 16 Hawkins games.

    Post Hawkins, the Yankees have gone 20-21 and have fallen to 4th place in the AL East and out of playoff contention. Since Hawkins’ arrival in Houston, the Astros have gone 30-11 and are now in the thick of the NL WildCard race.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Cashman is so STUPID.

      • Joe

        It’s up there with the Kazmir trade as franchise changing trades

    • Ivan

      That’s when you know it’s not your year.

      • steve (different one)

        the NL is terrible.

        • Whitey14

          DING, DING, DING, DING, DING! We have a winner!
          Christ, I could pitch in the N.L. Well in the West anyway ;-)

    • diony

      Oh sure, Hawkins could have been a great starter and hit homers and cook freaking dinner.

      Is called “pitching good in an inferior league in order to get a contract next season”

  • Ivan

    This is a tough spot here, you obviously don’t wanna listen to Michael Kay, but then you change it to the other station, you got those annoying homers from Chi-Sox.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Something may be up with Scott Kazmir, he’s thrown eight straight balls to start the game.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Bobby can hit hangers like nobody’s bidness.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Bobby Abreu’s left knee is still bothering him.

  • http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/burressDM0402_468x305.jpg Nady Nation

    Anyone else have tickets to the last game? Gotta love the Sunday plan – I’m actually quite shocked they included this game in the Sunday package, figured they’d make it some sort of premium game or something

    • Joe

      Yup, I’m flying in from San Francisco.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    I have a 14.00-point (RAB) lead and a 12.92-point lead in both of my fantasy football leagues. Both of my opponents have Jason Witten (and nobody else) going tonight. Talk about some drama.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I’m up 4.24 pts, but my opponent has Hank Baskett going tonight.

      Ryan Grant FTL

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Oh, and I lost Todd Heap this week because of the postponement. So my TE spot gave me 0 pts, which is actually better than what I got out of the Charger’s D (-1.00 pts).

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      After losing to Rafi in Week 1 by 0.14 points, I’ve got a two point lead over GoYanks, and I still have Donovan McChunkysoup and L.J. Smith going for me tonight. I should be good…

      …unless some freaky shit happens where Donovan throws an INT that Adam “Pong” Jones then fumbles, L.J. Smith recovers the fumble and then refumbles it, and Donovan and Smith subsequently bump knees and leave the game to injury, giving them a combined -4 points on the day and me another heartbreaking loss.

      That would fucking SUCK.

  • Ivan

    Jim Thome HOFer?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      I don’t see why not. If he plays one more year then he will accumulate at least 560-Home Runs. That’s a bunch of dingers to keep out of the Hall of Fame.

  • Accent Shallow

    X gonna give it to ya

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    X(BH)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    That’s that adamantium strength right there.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Oh great, here comes Kay’s 4 inning rant about Robbie Cano being benched.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      LoL @ your optimistic projection.

    • Ivan

      You knew it was comming.

  • Ivan

    Leiter: “That’s not how you play the game”

    Unless your Manny.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I hope someone in the booth brings that up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Heh, Mike Francessa said “Glad to see Jorge agrees with me”. Obviously referring to the article about Posada’s (idiotic) opinion on Joba Chamberlain’s role. I don’t know why, but there’s something incredibly amusing about someone puffing out their chest because they and a guy – who admittedly urinates on his hands – share the same opinion.

    • steve (different one)

      yes, but i heard that’s also how Dr. Andrews preps for surgery.

    • Ivan

      It’s that attitude that I can’t stand of Francessa.

      Can he bring the fact that Joba has been a successful highly regarded starter since college. Can he bring up the fact that Joba did pretty damn well as a starter.

      Isn’t is coincidence, that when Joba left the BP, the team did alright, but he left the rotation due to injury the team faltered. HMMMM, interesting.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Oh, I don’t even care anymore. I stopped watching/listening after Chris Russo left. I don’t find arrogant stupidity entertaining.

    • Ivan

      Even Chris Russo admitted he was wrong, and admitted that Joba can be successful starter.

  • Joe

    Who’s playing first? give that guy a contract

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Speaking of horribly unlucky seasons, Nick Swisher has a .251-BABIP (nearly .030-points off his career average, and nearly .060-points off his 2007 number, .308) while posting a 20.6-LD%, a career high.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Fucker nearly sabotaged my fantasy team. Lucky for him I was able to grab Quentin as a free agent.

      Heh, I managed to get Quentin and Cliff Lee as FAs, Billingsley off waivers, then I traded a pile of nothing for Tim Lincecum.

      • steve (different one)

        yup, would LOVE to see the Yankees deal for him this winter

        • Chip

          If the Yankees can pry him away, somebody should buy that team and fire the entire front office

          • Chris

            He’s being worked harder than Sabathia this year. Not saying I wouldn’t want him, but if Lincecum were a free agent I would be wary of giving him a long term deal.

  • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    Do you think Brian Westbrook and Nick Folk can get me 10 points tonight?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Westbrook might be able to do it by himself.

      • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        that’s all I need to beat Vin. sweet.

      • Ivan

        Word. Westbrook is a beast.

  • Ivan

    I got a question, is there one NL team that could of survive the AL?

    The only tam that would of been solid in the AL is the cubs.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      The Cubbies could get by. The difference between leagues right now is ridiculous, can you imagine if they Jays were in the NL? They’d be the best team in the circuit, rather easily.

      • steve (different one)

        i bet the Orioles could be in the mix in the NL. seriously.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        I think a healthy Brewers could contend. You taking about two aces in the rotation, another starter with nasty stuff in Yovani Gallardo, and a powerful 3-4 combo in the lineup.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          No bullpen, they’d have issues. Mets too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Joba Chamberlain:

    “He’s been around the game, but that’s his opinion,” Chamberlain said of Posada. “I’m not going to fault the guy for having an opinion. We all have our own opinions.”

    Translation:

    My dude, shut the fuck up.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080915&content_id=3482334&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

    • Steve H

      Good for Joba

  • steve (different one)

    out of Giambi, Pettitte, Abreu, and Moose, do the Yankees have a single “easy” decision this winter?

    • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      short answer: Yes–Giambi.

      • steve (different one)

        yeah, i don’t disagree. but he’s still played well enough to not be a “no brainer”.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          He’s got an .885 OPS, 30 HR and will finish close to 100 RBI. People act like he can’t hit.

          • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

            I just don’t think he’ll be good for whatever he gets in arbitration, not to mention the fact that he’ll be 39.

          • Old Ranger

            No room at the inn for Jason, Bobby or one of Moose/Andy. I don’t care what they have done this year, they are on the down. We need new younger athletic blood on this team.

  • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos
    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That’s not the Arizona Fall League, that’s the Rookie level Arizona League. Same as the GCL.

      Jackson will make the Eastern League top 20, could be as high as #2, but more likely 3-5 somewhere.

      • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        Oh–I was confused. My bad.

    • steve (different one)

      ??

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      “The Rookie-level Arizona League…”

    • Ivan

      surprising.

      • Ivan

        forget that surprise part.

  • Accent Shallow

    Wow, Griffey has lost even more of a step than I thought.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Ladies and gentlemen, your trivia answer: Shawn Boskie. Oh yes, I am that good.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Question?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Who gave up Jeter’s first career hit at the Stadium.

        It came during his cup of coffee in ’95, not his rookie year of ’96.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

          Heh, I don’t even know why I asked what the question was, I have no fucking clue who Shawn Boskie is.

  • Ivan

    You can Put it on the boooaaaaarrrrd Yessss.

  • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    This Dewayne Wise can’t be that bad if he homered of Kyle Farnsworth and Al Aceves…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Michael Kay: “…prognosticators prognosticated…” Fuck you, dude. Fuck you.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      He out-big worded himself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    So is everyone just waiting on the Derek Jeter hit and that monster (albeit Week 2) MNF game?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I want to see if Humberto pitches.

      • Ivan

        me too.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Thank God for MLB.TV.

        • Joe

          Cervilli as well

    • Ivan

      As a Eagle fan, can’t wait.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        I still laugh at the idiots who called the Eagle teams of 2002-2005 failures. Yeah, what a failure of a period that was. Three straight years of playoff games, three straight years of NFC Championship appearances and a Super Bowl berth.

        • Ivan

          While those NFC championship games hurt, overall the success of the franchise has been tremendous.

  • Ivan

    You whats entertaining, listening to Met callers after a bad lost on WFAN.

    • steve (different one)

      eh, i lost all feeling of superiority once i read the comments on LoHud

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Who’s the man? I’m the man.

  • Chip

    True or false: Al Aceves will make 20+ starts in the majors next season

    • steve (different one)

      false.

      he will make 19 starts and one 6 inning relief appearance.

  • steve (different one)

    what the hell was that?

  • Ivan

    Dye pulled a Abreu.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.
  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.
  • Accent Shallow

    Wow, Jeter in ’95. Wow.

    • Joe

      That was really cool

  • Samsonov KGB

    remember that kid they were featuring all day back in the summer? well i could have sworn i saw a shot of him

  • steve (different one)

    i can’t believe Griffey caught that

  • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    Stupidly fooling around on facebook and trying to join the MLB network, I figured out Brian Cashman’s email and now an email got sent to it confirming it I was in fact a member with his email.

    http://failblog.org/2008/01/03/classic-baby/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Nice.

  • Steve

    3 doubles saved in the past two days.

    I’m starting to not care if he can hit.

    • Ivan

      come on now take it easy.

    • Old Ranger

      He’ll hit .270 to .280 once he gets enough ABs…he always has. The rest of his game is what this team really needs.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Little G in the house.

  • Accent Shallow

    Is Brett Gardner allowed to slide into first?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I don’t care how he gets there, just get there.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Holy fuck is he fast.

  • Joe

    Melky?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Johnny Damon sure does take some fugly swings.

  • Manimal

    Thats the gardner I want to see. I just came upstairs after 3 hours of NHL 09. Got promoted to first string for Worcester Sharks.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Nice. I’m about 10 games deep in my franchise, and I’ve won 2 games. The losses can in all shapes and size – blowouts, OT, shootout, etc. Frustrating, but God is that game fun.

      • Manimal

        Be a pro is amazingly fun. I have two files, one is a goalie and one is a center. Haven’t even touched franchise mode yet.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I tried BAP over the weekend. Only thing I hate is that I’m a defensemen, was back in HS and everything. It’s pretty unrewarding, but it’s all I know.

          Plus I enjoy the roster management aspect. Having to run a guy through waivers before sending him to the minors is pretty sweet (if they only have a 1-way deal). You can grab some decent young players like that.

          Oh, and the scouting is real good. Other games you just assign a scout to a player, in this game you assign a scout to a group of players, say centers from the Canada or something.

          • Manimal

            yeah, basically best sports game ever. And I don’t even like hockey.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Brett Gardner makes shit happen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.
  • Accent Shallow

    Oy vey.

  • BigBlueAL

    Nice base-running by Gardner that inning.

  • BigBlueAL

    Guys wanted to ask this. I too like most you guys think Joba should be a starter, especially now after having seen him start this season. But my question is would it really be that bad if he is used out of the bullpen like Mo was used in 1996??? Joba out of the pen for over 100 innings a season???

    • Joe

      Yes, it would be. He’s the Ace we have lacked for years. Besides, Melancon will be Mo 96 next year

    • Ivan

      To me, Joba has the type of arm that can change a playoff series and can pull a Beckett in 2003. That 03 team had a bad BP but it didn’t matter considering what Beckett was doing.

      Mo has been the greatest relief pitcher ever but he will admit that he doesn’t get to that point without Cone, El’Duke, Pettitte in his hey day, Clemens and Jimmy Key.

      I,ve always felt that starting pitching can make everybody around them better. Guys like Joba can certainly do that.

      • Joe

        Better question. Do you feel comfortable with Coke and possibly Dunn (not that either have accomplished enough) to trade Marte while he still has value?

        • Ivan

          Hey Coke has had a couple of good innings but it’s a small sample size. I rather have the yanks keep Marte and have Coke/Marte lefty combo. Marte is a legit top 10 lefthanded reliever.

          • Joe

            I agree 100%, but would you be willing to gamble that Coke can become a good reliever, and dump Marte who’s not been great in NY and could be worse next year. Relievers are volatile, Coke could be great next year, or not, but he’s costing a whole lot less.

            • Ivan

              I wouldn’t. Marte has been consistent through out his entire career and has pitch very well once Girardi didn’t over use him and put him in better position to suceed.

              Hey I like Coke but again it’s a small sample size.

              Unless you can get something pretty good for Marte, it would be better to keep him.

        • Accent Shallow

          Marte’s a good reliever, but not an elite one. I’d let him walk at the end of the year and take the picks if he’s a Type A.

          • Ivan

            He’s not elite but very few are. Marte is a very good reliever and has been consistent in his career.

    • BigBlueAL

      Agreed but what if the Yankees sign CC or Ben Sheets and Hughes develops into a solid #2 starter along with Wang. Again I want to see him start, but Im trying to look at it and rationalize having him in the pen. Now if he will be used strictly as the 8th inning guy and pitch 1 inning at a time like a traditional set-up man that would really suck and be a major waste. But if they use him like an old-school reliever and throws over 100 innings out of the pen then I could see using him in that type of role.

      Hey I want him starting and it sounds like he wants to start too. Just trying to rationalize making him a reliever and how to utilize him the best if that is his role.

      • Ivan

        Yeah but if Joba reaches that potential, he’s under controled and cheap. Plus, it’s such a big advantage to trot out every game a starter who can shut ya down.

        BP Arms while are significant, can be replace and found.

        I just feel Joba the starter can so big for this franchise. Besides starting pitching win championships and if your the yanks and think championships then Joba to the rotation is the way to go.

      • Chip

        That’s a great thought but how about this.

        CC, Wang and Joba in a five game playoff series with CC, Wang, Joba and Hughes (assuming he becomes at least an above-average pitcher) in the series?

        With that kind of firepower, you could probably have me go out and throw underhanded to close out the game.

    • Old Ranger

      BP pitchers have one good and one ok pitches, sometimes two very good pitches. Starters need two very good pitches and one show me pitch…Joba has four good pitches. Four good to very good pitches makes him a #1 or #2 starter…end of argument. Who can we get as a starter in his place? How many do we have that can replace him in the BP? Get the idea? Joba, CC, CMW, Phil, Moose/Andy/Aceves…wow, I’d go to war with that line-up.

  • Ivan

    Im a better fielder than Giambi.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Kaz gave up 4 homers in 3 innings. Yikes.

    • Ivan

      That Ponson lite.

  • Ivan

    Wow the Astros nearly got no-hit again.

    • Manimal

      by ex yankee Ted Lilly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    UPDATE, 8:28 p.m.: The countdown lever was pulled by several beat writers, long-time official scorer Bill Shannon and radio man Ed Lucas. They asked me to do it and I passed. It would have been hypocritical to rip the thing all season long and then participate.

    Liar, you knew it involved physical labor.

    • Ivan

      If that’s the case he can’t say shit about Cano or A-Rod or Girardi when they do it big next season.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    2-2 game and Coke’s warming? I see he’s entered the Circle of Trust™.

    • BigBlueAL

      The water volleyball scene in Meet the Parents is still one of the funniest scenes ever.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        I have nipples Greg, can you milk me?

    • Steve

      At least in Girardi’s circle of trust, it doesn’t turn into a career high in appearances and end with a trip to Dr Andrews.

      • BigBlueAL

        Nor will it end with an appearance in the playoffs.

    • steve (different one)

      i know i was happy when the Pirates opted for Karstens over Coke

      • Steve H

        It’s amazing to think that was just a few months ago. My how times have changed. Think they’d like to hit the rewind button on that one? Seriously, Karstens had no chance of ever doing a thing for this team, and now Coke could potentially (small sample size, I know) become a lefty reliever for a team that has been looking for one for a while.

    • Chip

      Circle of Trust doesn’t really apply when you’re in fourth place does it?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Look at that, a lefty that can throw a fastball by a lefty hitter. It’s … it’s … it’s beautiful.

    • Chip

      Phil Coke could be a mainstay in the rotation if he keeps this up

      • Manimal

        woah there, take it easy now. A Proven LOOGY, and a pretty good inning of relief guy can get annihilated as a starter.

    • Manimal

      I was drooling at David Price’s ability to throw 97.

    • Ivan

      Need a Handkerchief.

  • BigBlueAL

    Holy Shit T.O. just burned the Eagles D.

    • Manimal

      Burress does that in his sleep.

      • BigBlueAL

        Hey I Love Plaxico too, but he aint no T.O.

    • A.D.

      My fantasy team isn’t pleased

  • A.D.

    Bunt??

    • Ivan

      I not a fan of the bunt at all, but in that spot, I don’t really mind.

  • A.D.

    Just tuned in, how has Aceves looked?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Pretty good. Gave up a deep 2-run homer to Dewayne Wise.

      • A.D.

        excellent….D-Ras when he first came up this year-esque

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    13-K in 34.2-IP, yeesh.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Wow, Horacio Ramirez is still in the bigs? Good for him.

    A few years ago Bobby Cox said he had the best stuff of any pitcher he’s ever managed.

  • steve (different one)

    i like betemit in this role

    • steve (different one)

      boom

  • A.D.

    Ned Yost was fired today WTF?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Yeah well, it’s not like they’re in a playoff race or anything.

      • A.D.

        i heard its because he wasn’t getting enough innings out of CC, ownership felt like they didn’t get their monies worth

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Heh, they were pissed that he couldn’t get CC to pull his weight.

          • steve (different one)

            to be fair, you’d probably need a tugboat

        • Ivan

          Well the Brewers Brass were pretty ticked of last season struggles in the second half specifically sept.

    • Ivan

      I was shocked when that happen.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    They really should DFA Betemit. He obviously can’t help this team.

    • BigBlueAL

      Happy to see Betemit get ab’s again and do something with them. He cant field worth shit but he is a nice bat off the bench.

  • A.D.

    Alright Betemit

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Why do people hate Wilson Betemit again? He’s one of the better bench-bats in the A.L., in my opinion.

    • A.D.

      because he was forced to start when A-Rod went down, and essentially failed at a scenario which he shouldn’t be, the starting 3rd baseman trying to replace A-Rod

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Agreed. Name me 3 better utility infielders.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        Alex Cora, Jed Lowrie, and Lou Merloni.

    • steve (different one)

      because Yankee fans are entitled to 25 all-stars for 25 roster spot

    • Accent Shallow

      53 Ks in 169 ABs might have a little bit to do with it, methinks.

      Also the sub .300 OBP and poor defense?

    • Ivan

      Betemit is alright with me. I haven’t really have problems with him.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Former All-Star closer Mike MacDougle coming in to pitch…

    • BigBlueAL

      He was nasty in MVP 2005.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    So much for the notion that these guys quit on Joe Girardi. The Yankees are on their way to their third win in four games against first-place teams.

    • Ivan

      I thought Pete Abe said they were on vacation.

  • BigBlueAL

    Wow, that Mohegan Sun commercial was stupid.

  • steve (different one)

    mohegan sun, worst ad campaign in history?

    discuss

    • A.D.

      the onld Wendys ads with the skinny dude wearing the wendys hair was worse

      and the VW ad with the weird little monster thing that nobody understood was real bad

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Those fucking cavemen.

      • Manimal

        hahahaha agreed.and the subway ones with Jared. We know. He was fat and now hes not.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      Viva Viagra.

      Dude, not only do I not want to hear about your erection bringing life back to your relationship, I for DAMN SURE don’t want to hear you SING about it.

  • Manimal

    Heyman heard recent “scuttlebutt” that C.C. Sabathia does not want to play for the Yankees. They’re still expected to make a large offer, and Heyman also expects a big play from the Angels. Sabathia reportedly prefers California but has become more open-minded to other locations.

    via MLB TR

    Uh oh.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Heh, what the fuck is a scuttlebutt?

      • Manimal

        good question.

      • kris

        from wiki:

        butt means bottle, barrel, pipe (haha)

        a scuttlebutt served the same function as the water cooler on ancient sailing boats. sailors gathered around it to gossip.

        scuttling the butt means poking a hole in the butt (haha) so that the sailors could withdraw water from it.

        the butt is volume unit equivalent to over 100 gallon. that’s big.

        God I love wikipedia.

    • Ivan

      Well Money talks but it seems that CC is far from a lock to sign with the yanks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Felix Jones literally ran through one of the smallest gaps of a kickoff return I’ve ever seen. He just burst through that whole.

    • A.D.

      Fleix Jones is nasty

  • Ivan

    Wow Eagles you let Juliet Jones scored a TD like that.

    • Ivan

      oh okay it was Felix. He’s good.

      • A.D.

        though Julius Jones did have a nice game for the Seahawks this week

  • Manimal

    That outside “strike” set up that pop up. Good going umps.

  • BigBlueAL

    Hope Jeter doesnt turn this into A-Rod with his 500th HR last season. :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    The Mets are down 4-1 in the seventh in Washington. A loss would place them just one loss ahead of the idle Philadelphia Philllies.

    **Ahem, ahem.**

    • A.D.

      at least the bullpen can cough up the lead…

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      One hit thru 7 off John Lannan.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Wow, look at all the empty seats behind home plate. All the Wall St. assholes must have something else to do…

    • A.D.

      maybe those were the Lehman seats

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        Heh.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        At this rate, there may not be any corporations left in NYC next year to buy up all those $10K-a-night luxury boxes…

    • Ivan

      A little bit.

  • Ivan

    Is Joba eligible for the AZL or any winter ball league?

  • BigBlueAL

    Shit Joba is throwin his fastballs like the old Joba. Bullpen baby!!!!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    John Flaherty doesn’t realize that you can shorten the game from the beginning.

    • A.D.

      exactly, see Schilling and Johnson in 2001

      • Joe

        I’m really trying to become numb to this conversation but it’s really hard, these guys are fucking morons

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Ken Singleton: The Fucking Man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    LoL @ Tony Romo, you little bitch.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    A-Rod might get hurt running the bases or playing defense. He should only pinch-hit.

  • A.D.

    Micheal Kay, voice of reason? that’s kinda scary

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That’s hows retarded this argument is.

      • Steve H

        Yost was fired because he had CC in the rotation, when it’s clear that you want a guy like that as a setup man. Just wait until CC gets dropped from the rotation, you heard it here first. Makes too much sense. Why would you waste CC as a starter?

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

          Steve, I want to buy your rock.

  • BigBlueAL

    How bout Michael Kay suggesting Joba should be a starter. And you guys call him an idiot….

  • steve (different one)

    flaherty is embarrassing himself

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    The Mets bullpen kinda sucks.

  • Ivan

    On The Black.

  • A.D.

    Honestly the argument is just old at this point, it tires me to hear it, especially with how obvious it is

  • Ivan

    This shouldn’t really be a arguement. NO ARGUEMENT.

  • Accent Shallow

    The Joba argument here is making me twitch.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    When someone brings up this debate from now on, I’m going to point them here:

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS200807250.shtml

    • Steve H

      And the box score doesn’t even do that performance justice.

    • Steve H

      Now that I think about that game in particular, Joba belongs in the pen. You see, Mo had to go 1.2 innings in that game because they couldn’t get the ball to him easily. Now if Joba wasn’t starting, he would have pitched a scoreless 8th, and Mo could have finished it up in the 9th. Oh, please, all you Joba in the pen people please let me know who would have thrown the 1st 7 shutout innings and we have plan in place.

    • Manimal

      Remember when Farnsworth almost blew that game? Good times. Was that the “Manny starring at 3 pitches and sat down” game?

      • Steve H

        No, the Manny game was in NY

      • Ivan

        nah that was a sunday night game in yankee stadium.

  • Ivan

    Think about this, if Joba was in the rotation and didn’t get hurt, the yanks might be in the race.

  • Joe

    “NFL to give Hochuli lower grades after call in Chargers-Broncos game”

    You don’t fuck with Ed Hochuli, Ed Hochuli fucks with you!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3589407

    • A.D.

      why I don’t get is that why yes that call was blown & cost the chargers the game, its a call thats been blown many times but not talked about, the refs have too quick a whistles because they want to protect the QB ( and probably instinct) it just happened at the end of the game, so everyone is talking about it

  • Manimal

    He brought his avg to 300, good job bobby.

  • A.D.

    wow Tony Romo

  • http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com steve

    I think Joba should build up his innings but it’s stupid to have him start as a reliever again. If he gets injured, then you have this whole problem again. Limit his innings when needed, and skip his starts when needed. Or just have him throw 30 inings in a winter league.

    • Joe

      Maybe we could start a beer league that Joba can get some innings in. I bet Joba can put them back

  • E-ROC

    Romo is sucking balls again; Jessica Simpson must be in the building.

    • Steve H

      Jessica Simpson is sucking balls again; I must be in the building!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.
  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Does A.J. Pierzynski have a bitch-arm or does he just have bad footwork?

    • BigBlueAL

      He is no Mike Piazza defensively. Or Matt LeCroy.

      • Steve H

        Or Robert Fick. Remember when Frank Robinson was crying after a game because he had to pull Fick from catching mid inning because they were stealing left and right off him?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I remember that, but wasn’t it LeCroy?

          • Steve H

            My bad. I think Fick replaced Lecroy, and he hadn’t played catcher for a while

            • Bryan

              Speaking of LeCroy, guess where hes playing? The Lancaster Barnstomers, in Lancaster PA, where I go to college. I got to watch him play yesterday, it looks like hes playing little league smashing the ball all over the place. Plus he stole third which was pretty amazing, hell, I probably could have thrown him out.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    This game better end soon. I’m itchin’ to get at NHL 09.

    • Manimal

      haha me too but I need to do homework.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    David Wright GIDP with the bases juiced and the Mets down 7-2 in the eight inning. He should be traded for David Eckstein.

    • Ivan

      He should pay A-Rod for covering ass from the media.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    You know, I’m glad Phil went back to 65. That’s the number I associate with him, 34 just felt wrong.

    • A.D.

      agreed

    • Ivan

      Yea 65 isn’t so bad. Hopefully it gives him good luck to pitch well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.
    • Ivan

      I saw that play on ESPNNEWS.

      Phenomenal play.

  • Bonos

    There is where A Rod irritates me. You move the man to third, bad baseball. Lead by example.

  • steve (different one)
    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Heh.

  • Accent Shallow

    I love Robbie. If only he can remember how to hit.

  • Ivan

    lazy play by Cano.

  • Joe

    Hustle Bitch!

  • Ivan

    Alexie Ramirez AKA Soriano JR.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Mike, forget NHL 09, tune into this MNF game.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Fine, I’ll give it ’til halftime.

  • Manimal

    Grats Phil Coke!

  • A.D.

    Nice win, helping out the Twins

  • Joe

    Um..Mo I would like to get my moneys worth, slow down just a bit

  • steve (different one)

    i hope TLR has a designated driver

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Zing!

  • A.D.

    why desean jackson, why

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    LoL at DeShaun Jackson, he threw the ball away for a TD celebration that could cost him the TD because he might have thrown it away before the ball crossed the Goal-Line.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      LoL, DUMB FUCK!

  • Ivan

    OMG DeSean.

  • Manimal

    Some one give me a owned or failed picture because the eagles just OWNED themselves.

  • Steve H

    Anybody had McNabb (or Jackson) in their fantasy league????? My girlfriend has Mcnabb, let’s just say she’s not the biggest Desean fan out there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.
  • Ivan

    That’s Leon Lett lite DeSean.

    Then Westbrook does what he does best.

    • Steve H

      Hope Desean learns from his mistake, unlike Leon, who has 2 of the top bonehead plays in history

  • Ivan

    Jeez T.O. is killing us.

    • Steve H

      At least he’s not killing himself.

  • Ivan

    Fail.org need to take a pic of that DeSean play and put Fail on it. That would be legit.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but is that the Cowboy’s new stadium?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Next year.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        That’s what I thought. Thanks.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Jaws:McNabb

    as

    Gammons:Pedroia

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      So fucking true.

    • Ivan

      Yea but McNabb is so talented.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      Jaws:McNabb
      as
      Jessica Simpson:Romo

  • steve (different one)

    remember when the giants beat the cowboys in the playoffs last year?

    that was sweet.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Remember when T.O. cried? That was sweeter.

      • Steve H

        That’s my quarterback!!

      • Ivan

        That dude looked mad ugly when he was crying.

  • Jacob

    I’ve got both Mcnabb and Desean Jackson…sigh

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

    The hook and ladder? REALLY?

    FTL.

  • Pedro

    McNabb choked with the game on the line.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      What a crappy ending to a great game.