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	<title>Comments on: Goldman: &#8216;Things are going to get worse before they get better&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/goldman-things-are-going-to-get-worse-before-they-get-better-4249/#comment-150300</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>remember how all the pundint&#039;s loved the Tiger&#039;s. No one was going to be able to compete with them!!!! So you can take all the writeing from every sports writer (actually they are no more than gossip columnest when they are speculating on trades and if&#039;s see Ken Rosenthal) And shred them burn them or any other way you want to discard this toilet paper. Let me know when any of these writers get anything right that has not already happend. I know they need to sell papers and doom and gloom sells but when I watch the Yanks or the G-MEN I want to enjoy it and forget about all of the real problems going on in the world for 3 hours. That is why I will not watch pregame shows and read most of the gossip coulmns and come to sites like these to get straight to the point of the news on the team I enjoy to follow and watch. Just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remember how all the pundint&#8217;s loved the Tiger&#8217;s. No one was going to be able to compete with them!!!! So you can take all the writeing from every sports writer (actually they are no more than gossip columnest when they are speculating on trades and if&#8217;s see Ken Rosenthal) And shred them burn them or any other way you want to discard this toilet paper. Let me know when any of these writers get anything right that has not already happend. I know they need to sell papers and doom and gloom sells but when I watch the Yanks or the G-MEN I want to enjoy it and forget about all of the real problems going on in the world for 3 hours. That is why I will not watch pregame shows and read most of the gossip coulmns and come to sites like these to get straight to the point of the news on the team I enjoy to follow and watch. Just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: steve (different one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve (different one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The ridiculous coddling of Joba has Cashman written all over it. &lt;/i&gt;

this is stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The ridiculous coddling of Joba has Cashman written all over it. </i></p>
<p>this is stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Dillon</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/goldman-things-are-going-to-get-worse-before-they-get-better-4249/#comment-149758</link>
		<dc:creator>Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if:

Wang is healthy and wins 17.  

Joba is a stud in the 8th in the first half, starter in the 2nd.

CC signs with us.

One guy out of the Pettitte, Hughes, Kennedy, or Moose has a good year.  

One guy out of the Coke, Edwar, Robertson, Sanchez, Cox, Melancon group steps up in the pen.  

The answer is......it&#039;s probably gonna happen and we&#039;ll be the best team in baseball again.  The offense will calm down because there won&#039;t be pressure because our staff will only be giving up 3 runs a game.</description>
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<p>Wang is healthy and wins 17.  </p>
<p>Joba is a stud in the 8th in the first half, starter in the 2nd.</p>
<p>CC signs with us.</p>
<p>One guy out of the Pettitte, Hughes, Kennedy, or Moose has a good year.  </p>
<p>One guy out of the Coke, Edwar, Robertson, Sanchez, Cox, Melancon group steps up in the pen.  </p>
<p>The answer is&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s probably gonna happen and we&#8217;ll be the best team in baseball again.  The offense will calm down because there won&#8217;t be pressure because our staff will only be giving up 3 runs a game.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see Cashman gone.  The ridiculous coddling of Joba has Cashman written all over it.  I still have high hopes for Hughes but I&#039;ve never been impressed with Kennedy and if he&#039;s a blue chip prospect something is wrong.  I don&#039;t feel Cashman is the guy that can avoid a big time collapse and the Yankees really need a skilled baseball man to come in and get this thing turned aroound before it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see Cashman gone.  The ridiculous coddling of Joba has Cashman written all over it.  I still have high hopes for Hughes but I&#8217;ve never been impressed with Kennedy and if he&#8217;s a blue chip prospect something is wrong.  I don&#8217;t feel Cashman is the guy that can avoid a big time collapse and the Yankees really need a skilled baseball man to come in and get this thing turned aroound before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are losing sight of the forest looking at trees in his article.

The main thrust is that with an older roster (or one which has its best players on the &quot;older&quot; side) and a farm system which does not offer ready replacements, its very dificult to remain a contender through FA because of cost/availability in the market.

I agree wholeheartedly - it would be difficult to disagree with a common-sense position.

The analogy  - or any analogy - is always cumbersome, and he is paid not to be a sage, but to draft an article which will garner interestr / discussion.  He succeeded, and also made a few good points - unlike Loopy, who makes smoke with no fire just because he can.

The interesting part about the Yanks is everything went wrong with their young players this year - from Joba to Cano to Melky to Wang to Hughes to IPK to Gardner to Shelly to Karstens to Ollendorff to Brunney (stretch), and unlike last year there was no fortification from the Sanchez/Melancon/Cox/Jackson group.

It would seem impossible that all of the above players will not offer more valuable contributions next year, but the scary part is that the Yanks best near prospects (exception of Ajax) have injury concerns, so if either they are injury-prone ( Hughes ) , cannot make the jump (IPK , Gardner) or plain suck (Shelly/Melky etc), there is a 3-4 year gap in players to their young replacements.  

Big reliance on FA and older guys staying productive = danger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are losing sight of the forest looking at trees in his article.</p>
<p>The main thrust is that with an older roster (or one which has its best players on the &#8220;older&#8221; side) and a farm system which does not offer ready replacements, its very dificult to remain a contender through FA because of cost/availability in the market.</p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly &#8211; it would be difficult to disagree with a common-sense position.</p>
<p>The analogy  &#8211; or any analogy &#8211; is always cumbersome, and he is paid not to be a sage, but to draft an article which will garner interestr / discussion.  He succeeded, and also made a few good points &#8211; unlike Loopy, who makes smoke with no fire just because he can.</p>
<p>The interesting part about the Yanks is everything went wrong with their young players this year &#8211; from Joba to Cano to Melky to Wang to Hughes to IPK to Gardner to Shelly to Karstens to Ollendorff to Brunney (stretch), and unlike last year there was no fortification from the Sanchez/Melancon/Cox/Jackson group.</p>
<p>It would seem impossible that all of the above players will not offer more valuable contributions next year, but the scary part is that the Yanks best near prospects (exception of Ajax) have injury concerns, so if either they are injury-prone ( Hughes ) , cannot make the jump (IPK , Gardner) or plain suck (Shelly/Melky etc), there is a 3-4 year gap in players to their young replacements.  </p>
<p>Big reliance on FA and older guys staying productive = danger.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m sorry how are Giambi&#039;s .380 OBP and 28 homers this year deadweight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m sorry how are Giambi&#8217;s .380 OBP and 28 homers this year deadweight?</p>
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		<title>By: Glen L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it has far less to do with the quality of their writers and far more to do with the fact that newspapers in general are dying everywhere because of the internet.  Tim Marchman writes for the Sun and he&#039;s great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it has far less to do with the quality of their writers and far more to do with the fact that newspapers in general are dying everywhere because of the internet.  Tim Marchman writes for the Sun and he&#8217;s great.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitey14</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whitey14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, unfortunately, expect the same damn thing!

The Yankees are well on their way to forming the base of their roster from good, young, homegrown talent, both pitching wise and hitting wise.  They are also the team in the best financial position to SUPPLEMENT with the right mix of veterans and Free Agents.  So I completely, though regretfully, agree with those who feel this team will not stay down for long.  Nor should they, it&#039;s better for baseball (no matter what those of us in Red Sox Nation think) for the Yankees to be a powerhouse team.  It keeps millions of fans happy, and it pisses off millions of fans at the same time and that my friends, is good for business because all those millions of fans are paying (pun most defintely intended) attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, unfortunately, expect the same damn thing!</p>
<p>The Yankees are well on their way to forming the base of their roster from good, young, homegrown talent, both pitching wise and hitting wise.  They are also the team in the best financial position to SUPPLEMENT with the right mix of veterans and Free Agents.  So I completely, though regretfully, agree with those who feel this team will not stay down for long.  Nor should they, it&#8217;s better for baseball (no matter what those of us in Red Sox Nation think) for the Yankees to be a powerhouse team.  It keeps millions of fans happy, and it pisses off millions of fans at the same time and that my friends, is good for business because all those millions of fans are paying (pun most defintely intended) attention.</p>
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		<title>By: David Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Goldman ever heard of Xavier Nady, he is under 30? There is still young pitching in the system such as Melancon, McAllister, and Brackman (And don&#039;t forget Phil Hughes). Montero and Jackson are legit prospects (Romine too). The Yankees will also clean out a ton of dead wood like Pavano and Giambi after this reason. I hate all the Yankee bashers, they should become CUB fans (100 years of FAILURE).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Goldman ever heard of Xavier Nady, he is under 30? There is still young pitching in the system such as Melancon, McAllister, and Brackman (And don&#8217;t forget Phil Hughes). Montero and Jackson are legit prospects (Romine too). The Yankees will also clean out a ton of dead wood like Pavano and Giambi after this reason. I hate all the Yankee bashers, they should become CUB fans (100 years of FAILURE).</p>
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		<title>By: steve (different one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve (different one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uh, Andy Pettitte?  Mike Mussina?   

Derek Jeter?  not getting rid of him obviously, but possibly moving him off of SS. not that i think that will happen, but it&#039;s an example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh, Andy Pettitte?  Mike Mussina?   </p>
<p>Derek Jeter?  not getting rid of him obviously, but possibly moving him off of SS. not that i think that will happen, but it&#8217;s an example.</p>
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