Matsui set for Monday surgery

The end of an era
Still alive

Hideki Matsui hadn’t played in a game for eight days. But with the Yankee Stadium finale on tap, Godzilla didn’t want to miss it. He started, went 1 for 3 and was removed for Ivan Rodriguez in the 7th. After the game, the Yankees announced that Matsui would undergo surgery on his left knee today. He’ll be ready for Spring Training, but how he fits in the 2009 Yankee lineup is, right now, open for debate.

The end of an era
Still alive
  • Ivan

    I’ll be surprise if he isn’t a yankee. He’s injury prone, he can’t field especially with that bad knee of his, so forget pretty much all the NL teams. He really doesn’t have that much value.

  • steve (different one)

    the Yankees have a spot for Matsui at DH. i think if he never plays the OF, he can hold up for one more season.

    • http://barackobama.com TurnTwo

      yeah, agreed. full time DH, maybe sit against a tough lefty, let Posada slide into the DH and have Molina catch.

      i dont think there’s any chance he’s getting traded. even with the awful FA OFers class this offseason, those bad knees are too much of a gamble for someone to take.

      • Steve

        Only trouble with that is Girardi like to keep the DH spot open to rest his regulars and keep their bat in the lineup. I think he’d prefer to NOT have a full time DH, especially if Damon’s still around next year.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      He hasn’t played a full season since 2005. I’m skeptical of his ability to stay healthy and productive for a full season right now.

      • Ivan

        Matsui had a very good season last season and played over 140 Games.

        Nevertheless, you have to question whether he can stay healthy.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        True. As good of a hitter as Matsui still is (that swing still looked sweet last night), if you can flip him for a prospect of any value, you do it.

        It will open up more games at the DH spot for players like Damon and Posada. Of course, all this hinges on what happens with the two big bats likely to leave (Giambi and Abreu) and whichever big bat we acquire (Tex, Manny, Dunn…)

  • dan

    We out-commented LoHud by 55 on the game-thread(s). Well done, people.

    • Steve

      What a bunch of blabbermouths we are.

  • Baseballnation

    He fits in rather ok if its Matsui/Gardner/Nady with damon spelling Gardner and Matsui mostly. A-jax might see some time in the summer but I think they will leave him at AAA all year barring a crazy tear by him or ethier one of the outfileders on the main roster going down for an extended period

  • Alex

    Matsui will do his best to make sure he can play the outfield, and I would pencil him in there until he truly shows he can’t play there. Matsui will invariably eat up DH time, but the DH spot is obviously at a premium because of Posada.

    Matusi in the outfield makes sense, as well, because I think this is the Offseason to trade Damon: I truly love the guy, what he can do at the top of the order, and his fit in the clubhouse, I think the Yanks need to do a better job of turning older players with value into younger assets. Damon might bring 2 or 3 players back.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      At this point, I believe that trading Damon and keeping Matsui makes the team worse unless the return for Damon is substantially higher than what I would expect the Yanks could get for him right now.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        I agree. Damon is much more valuable than Matsui at this point, because he’s less of an injury risk, less of a liability in the field, and probably just a better bat at this point anyway (Hideki’s got more power, but Johnny’s better in OBP.)

        I’ll look to move Matsui before Damon. And neither of them is a “must deal”, just someone to move if the price is right.

        • Steve

          And that’s one of the really tough (and interesting) questions the Yanks will have to answer this off season.

          The guy who you’d like to trade who can’t play the outfield you can’t get much back for, the other guy you’d prefer to keep you would have trouble replacing.

          I think they opt to trade Matsui, and simply won’t get much back.

    • Count Zero

      I would honestly be surprised if Matsui plays LF 10 times in 2009.

      Let’s face it — he wasn’t very good in LF to begin with, and now he’ll be even worse. On top of that, it’s much like the MB situation in TX this year — you know that every time you put him out there it greatly increases the chances you will lose his bat completely.

      While I hear you on the Damon situation, unless we’re resigning Bobby or picking up a starting OF somewhere, I don’t see how we can even discuss it at this point.

      • steve (different one)

        While I hear you on the Damon situation, unless we’re resigning Bobby or picking up a starting OF somewhere, I don’t see how we can even discuss it at this point.

        the OF situation is going to be a fun sideshow this off-season. i think Abreu is gone.

        from there, it will be very interesting to see what they do.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

          Manny?

  • AndrewYF

    Am I crazy for really wanting the Yankees to ship off Matsui for peanuts and sign Manny as the DH for two years?

    • ceciguante

      would manny even accept just a 2 year deal? i’m sure you’re not alone with wanting him, but i can’t stand the guy. another DH type is not the direction i want to see this team move in. let alone a guy who only plays hard when he feels like it, and would, amazingly, be worse than matsui in LF. he possesses every quality the yanks should not strive for: old, terrible defensively, expensive, terrible attitude. pass.

      i want to like an OF of damon/gardner/nady, but i think this team will need a stopgap CF option (kotsay?). i’m also worried that any such outfield will really suffer for lack of offense w/o abreu, esp if posada and/or matsui have lost some hitting.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        “he possesses every quality the yanks should not strive for: old, terrible defensively, expensive, terrible attitude…”

        … and the one quality we really, really need – good offensive production.

        “i’m also worried that any such outfield will really suffer for lack of offense w/o abreu…”

        …which is all the more reason to go for Manny.

        • Steve

          Manny is one of the greatest hitters who ever lived, but the crap he pulled in Boston even before this year is something you just can’t live with. There’s too much media here, an established way of doing things and it simply wouldn’t work. He’d become a huge distraction like he did in Boston and it would eventually become untenable, like it did there.

      • Joey H

        yea that will be a horrible defensive outfield. gardner is the best fielder out of the three. i love nady but the man looks a little lost out there sometimes.

  • ManBearPig

    Could we get Victorino from the phillies without giving up joba, hughes, montero or ajax? Would they be interested in matsui/damon along with some of our young bullpen arms and/or gardner /melky and some cash?

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      Doubt it. The Phillies are in no rush to move Victorino. And definitely not for aging thirtysomething outfielders in the twilight of their careers.

  • pounder

    Aaron Rowand would look good in CF for us.Do you think Matsui would be acceptable for SF? Throw in Cano and Rameriz and maybe they would consider adding Matt Cain,

    • Mike Pop

      sorry dude but thats extremely wrong. They wouldnt even deal Cain for those 3…. and rowand is under control for 4 more years at an average of 12 mill a year theyd like cano and cano for rowand would be good for thme and not us…. i was all for a rowand signing las year him or tori hunter so we could ship off melky but i dont think trading for him at this point would be a smart move

  • Mike Pop

    we could def gett him without giving up those 4 just not for the players u mentioned… (damon matsui)

  • ManBearPig

    I’m not prepared to say “whatever it takes,” but Victorino would be ideal for the Yankees. He could play center until A-Jax is ready, then move over to right when he comes up – pushing Nady back to left, if he is still a Yankee in 2010 (I hope). Also, he would fill the leadoff void that would be created after Damon’s contract expires after next year. He’s power, an arm, can throw, play defense, and he’s hawaiian! I know the Phillies need pitching, so if we can get it done without giving up Joba/Hughes/Betances/Brackman, get it done.

    • Joey H

      i get what ur saying but that is never going to happen. try it in a video game tho, might work.

  • Joey H

    must be traded.

    • Joey H

      rumor has it fielder is heading to the giants so let them take matsui too.
      i dont expect much in return but he did say he wants to play the field next year. so let the man go.