Moose misses out on Comeback award

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Three more years of Cashman’s 30 team reporters voted for their Comeback Players of the Year this week, and Cliff Lee and Brad Lidge emerged as winners in their respective leads. Mike Mussina was the AL’s runner up, winning 20 games a year after getting yanked from the rotation en route to a 5.15 ERA and an 11-10 season. Had Cliff Lee – demoted to AAA last year — not emerged as the AL’s presumptive Cy Young winner, this recognition would have belonged to Mussina.

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  • Manimal

    Cliff Lee freaking deserves it.

  • Ed

    Moose sucked last year, but there weren’t even serious thoughts about taking him out of the rotation until late August or so.

    Cliff Lee was bad enough that he spent most of last year in the minors.

    Unless the writers are on serious drugs, Cliff Lee should be finishing either first or second in the Cy Young voting (with Halladay in the other spot). Mussina should be in the top 10, maybe you could even make a case for top 5, but it’s not even close between him and Lee.

    So last year Lee sunk further than Mussina did and this year he rose higher. The guy earned it.

  • tommiesmithjohncarlos

    Here’s my comeback player of the year ballot:

    1.) Jon Lester
    2.) Dustin Pedroia
    3.) Jon Lester
    4.) Jason Varitek
    5.) Jon Lester
    6.) Daniel Bard
    7.) Jon Lester
    8.) Bartolo Colon
    9.) Jon Lester
    10.) Ted Williams, Sr.

    For Diamond Cutters, I’m Peter Gammons, ESPN.

    • UWS

      And don’t forgot Jon Lester.

      • UWS



    • Mike A.

      And don’t forget Theo Epstein, who geniusly (that’s right, geniusly) got rid of Manny Ramirez.

      • tommiesmithjohncarlos

        Unfortunately there’s only 10 spaces on the ballot. It was a hard call to leave out so many other deserving people, like Theo, Larry Lucchino, Alex Cora, Manny Delcarmen, Curt Schilling, Oil Can Boyd, Johnny Pesky, Joe Torre, and Steve Swindal.

  • Manimal

    Cash signed for 3 years(per pete abe’s live chat, someone said something to him and then he reported it tothe viewers)

  • CountryClub

    Pete said that’s the word right now, but he hasnt heard it directly from Cashman. he hopes to get confirmation after the chat.

    • Ben K.

      Cashman news is here. If you all could move your Cash comments there and keep this thread on Mussina, we’d appreciate it.

      Also, in the future, for news tips, please e-mail us instead of posting off-topic comments. Our e-mail addresses are on the left at the top of the sidebar.

  • Mike A.

    Phew, glad to see Lidge managed to get his career back on track after that 131 ERA+, 11.82 Kper9 down year in 2007.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos

      2009 AL Comeback Player of the Year: Mariano Rivera.

    • Ed

      Well, right before the season started, that Albert Pujols home run finally landed, allowing Lidge to take the mound in the 9th inning without visions of the ball orbiting the planet.

      On a more serious note, ever since that Pujols home run, Lidge had dominated the 8th inning in Joba like fashion, but handled the 9th inning like Byung-Hyun Kim in a World Series game. Outside of New York, people don’t take the 8th inning so seriously, so yeah, most people considered last year to be a pretty huge disappointment for him.

  • JRVJ

    Objectively, Cliff Lee was the comeback player of the year in the AL, and Moose was 2nd in this category in the AL.

    The writers got it right.

    BTW – I think that Cashman’s resigning increases the chances of Moose coming back (Gosh, let’s hope so!!!).

  • Slugger27

    i havent seen the list of finalists, and yes cliff lee had a badass year… but where in gods name was josh hamilton?? how did he not win? and how did he not finish higher than mussina?

    • Ed

      Because Hamilton’s comeback was last season. He only played half a season though, so that’s probably why he didn’t win last year.

  • MikeD

    I’m partial, but I think Mussina is more deserving, although Lee is not a bad choice. The problem is the term “come back.” Lee was basically a league-average pitcher in 2005 and 2006. What he accomplished in 2008 was a major step forward in ability.

    Mussina, on the other hand, was consistently one of the top pitchers in the league for a decade and a half before collapsing in 2007. He came back to record a 20-win season, becoming the oldest pitcher to notch his first-ever 20-win season. He became only the second pitcher in the history of MLB to shave more than two runs off his ERA after the age of 35. In the process, he moved himself to a likely Hall of Fame candidate with 270 wins and (I hope) still counting.

    THAT’s a come back because it’s a true come back in ability and stature. Cliff never was that good of a pitcher until this year, making Mussina’s accomplishment more significant. Sorry Cliff.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos

      I haven’t seen that much spin since the laundromat.

  • MikeD

    …now moving my story to the dryer.