Comments on: Pondering Moose in between games http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:42:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Illustrious http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/#comment-155751 Illustrious Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:06:46 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=4418#comment-155751 His ERA in the past month is 5.00 while his FIP is 2.86. He's been extremely unlikely, as has Pettitte (to a lesser extent). His ERA in the past month is 5.00 while his FIP is 2.86. He’s been extremely unlikely, as has Pettitte (to a lesser extent).

]]> By: Steve http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/#comment-155455 Steve Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:37:36 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=4418#comment-155455 If a decision comes down to AJ Burnett or Andy Pettitte, I still want Andy. Not for sentimental reasons, I don't trust AJ to always give a solid effort. I know Andy's going to give me everything he's got. If a decision comes down to AJ Burnett or Andy Pettitte, I still want Andy. Not for sentimental reasons, I don’t trust AJ to always give a solid effort. I know Andy’s going to give me everything he’s got.

]]> By: Steve http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/#comment-155454 Steve Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:35:30 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=4418#comment-155454 I don't think we have no depth. The rotation would look something like this 1-FA/CC 2-Wang 3-Joba 4-Pettitte 5-Hughes with Kennedy/Aceves/Eric Milton/Victor Zambrano in AAA plus whoever asserts themself as a top prospect next year. Garcia, McCallister, Horne and even Jeremy Bleich (a 3 year college pitcher) are all possibilities in that category. I think we have plenty of depth. If/when Hughes or someone else gets banged up, I'd feel comfortable plugging in any of those first 4 guys. Its the 5th starter, I don't expect the moon. I don’t think we have no depth. The rotation would look something like this

1-FA/CC
2-Wang
3-Joba
4-Pettitte
5-Hughes

with Kennedy/Aceves/Eric Milton/Victor Zambrano in AAA plus whoever asserts themself as a top prospect next year. Garcia, McCallister, Horne and even Jeremy Bleich (a 3 year college pitcher) are all possibilities in that category. I think we have plenty of depth.

If/when Hughes or someone else gets banged up, I’d feel comfortable plugging in any of those first 4 guys. Its the 5th starter, I don’t expect the moon.

]]> By: Gary D http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/#comment-155332 Gary D Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:15:59 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=4418#comment-155332 Ditch Moose. Ditch Andy. Ditch Giambi. Ditch the old. Bring in the new. Next year you'd be paying Mosse for what good he did this year and what you'll end up receiving is a guy who's going to be sent to the bullpen in 2009 because he's struggling as a starter. His many more hits to innings pitched is telling. Try replacing the current first baseman who can't throw a baseball ninety feet for one who can hit and field. Try to sign CC. Cannot you see the obvious that the old Yanks cannot keep up with the younger rest of baseball? One rule change necessary for the 2009 season is this "defensive indifference" crap on a stolen base. Case in point: second game of the deuce Saturday: Gross steals second base in the ninth inning with one out but does not receive credit for the stolen base because the Yankees "let" him take second without attempting to throw him out. SO WHAT? The fact is, he did steal second. Why is the fact negated in the official scoring? Why is the fact that Moments after Gross took second base, Gross came around to score when Mo allowed a single from pinch-hitter Evan Longoria that made the score 6-5. So regardless of "indifference," Gross's uncredited steal amounted to a run and thus, his steal should be credited. If Gross while running had fallen and pulled a hamstring and was tagged out, you can be sure that the out would be credited via assists or putouts. Ditch Moose. Ditch Andy. Ditch Giambi. Ditch the old. Bring in the new. Next year you’d be paying Mosse for what good he did this year and what you’ll end up receiving is a guy who’s going to be sent to the bullpen in 2009 because he’s struggling as a starter. His many more hits to innings pitched is telling. Try replacing the current first baseman who can’t throw a baseball ninety feet for one who can hit and field. Try to sign CC. Cannot you see the obvious that the old Yanks cannot keep up with the younger rest of baseball?

One rule change necessary for the 2009 season is this “defensive indifference” crap on a stolen base. Case in point: second game of the deuce Saturday: Gross steals second base in the ninth inning with one out but does not receive credit for the stolen base because the Yankees “let” him take second without attempting to throw him out. SO WHAT? The fact is, he did steal second. Why is the fact negated in the official scoring? Why is the fact that Moments after Gross took second base, Gross came around to score when Mo allowed a single from pinch-hitter Evan Longoria that made the score 6-5. So regardless of “indifference,” Gross’s uncredited steal amounted to a run and thus, his steal should be credited. If Gross while running had fallen and pulled a hamstring and was tagged out, you can be sure that the out would be credited via assists or putouts.

]]> By: Mike NYY http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/#comment-155324 Mike NYY Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:50:23 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=4418#comment-155324 I think we may need both Mussina and Pettitte. Lets say we sign a top free agent stater (which really isn't a given) 1) Wang 2) FA Starter 3) Joba 4) Mussina 5) Pettitte If we don't bring back one of Mussina/Pettitte it means we signed two free agent pitchers. This is fine with me but unlikely. Or we move someone else into the rotation. Probably Hughes. Also, Joba will be starting '09 in the bullpen so we will need another starter for a few months. Are you ready to go into April with this as a rotation: 1) Wang 2) FA starter 3) Mussina/Pettitte 4) Hughes 5) Aceves/Kennedy/Igawa Not to mention we have no depth at all. I think we may need both Mussina and Pettitte.

Lets say we sign a top free agent stater (which really isn’t a given)

1) Wang
2) FA Starter
3) Joba
4) Mussina
5) Pettitte

If we don’t bring back one of Mussina/Pettitte it means we signed two free agent pitchers. This is fine with me but unlikely. Or we move someone else into the rotation. Probably Hughes.

Also, Joba will be starting ’09 in the bullpen so we will need another starter for a few months. Are you ready to go into April with this as a rotation:

1) Wang
2) FA starter
3) Mussina/Pettitte
4) Hughes
5) Aceves/Kennedy/Igawa

Not to mention we have no depth at all.

]]> By: Joey H http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/#comment-155285 Joey H Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:59:30 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=4418#comment-155285 it was referencing to the year in which he wasnt. it was referencing to the year in which he wasnt.

]]> By: BigYank1 http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/#comment-155133 BigYank1 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:46:02 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=4418#comment-155133 Moose for 1 year, yes. Moose for more than 1 year, no. I hope the Yanks can land both CC and Burnett to go with Wang, Joba, Pettite/Moose and have Hughes in the minors as a backup. Moose for 1 year, yes.

Moose for more than 1 year, no.

I hope the Yanks can land both CC and Burnett to go with Wang, Joba, Pettite/Moose and have Hughes in the minors as a backup.

]]> By: Joseph P. http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/#comment-155121 Joseph P. Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:27:27 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=4418#comment-155121 What is this 06 shit? Moose was awesome that year. What is this 06 shit? Moose was awesome that year.

]]> By: ortforshort http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/#comment-155105 ortforshort Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:03:49 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=4418#comment-155105 Mussina's always blown hot and cold while with the Yankees. After the season he's had, the Yanks will obviously want to extend him another year. I presume he won't be looking for two, but who knows? Hopefully, he'll slot in next year at the bottom of the rotation and not as the Yankees' ace. Mussina’s always blown hot and cold while with the Yankees. After the season he’s had, the Yanks will obviously want to extend him another year. I presume he won’t be looking for two, but who knows?
Hopefully, he’ll slot in next year at the bottom of the rotation and not as the Yankees’ ace.

]]> By: Ivan http://riveraveblues.com/2008/09/pondering-moose-in-between-games-4418/#comment-155095 Ivan Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:11:34 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=4418#comment-155095 I think Cano will improve much more next season. He was in the first half second in Zone rating at 2B. I think Cano will improve much more next season. He was in the first half second in Zone rating at 2B.

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