Torre heads back to October

An uneasy marriage
Game 159: Another scrub-filled game.

A moment ago, the Diamondbacks lost to the Cardinals, and the Dodgers clinched the NL West. For the 13th season in a row, Joe Torre has managed his team to the playoffs. While the media will soon be all over St. Joe for this one, the Yankees have clinched at least the same record as the Dodgers, and LA plays in a weaker division. Manny Ramirez also deserves a lot of credit for driving the Dodgers to the playoffs. But for all that, I’ll tip my cap to Joe. That streak is quite an accomplishment, and this playoff berth is the reason why the Dodgers signed him.

An uneasy marriage
Game 159: Another scrub-filled game.
  • Jeremy

    “That streak is quite an accomplishment, and this playoff berth is the reason why the Dodgers signed him.”

    And now they get to enjoy his brilliant playoff management skills, be it bringing in Weaver instead of Rivera, using Gordon with an 11-run lead, batting ARod 6th or 8th, and sleeping at the wheel while Joba is assaulted by an insect swarm.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      Well, you get what you pay for on both sides of the ball.

  • pat

    i can already see the inevitable mike lupica article saying how the yankees are assholes for disrespecting him and letting him go. Hes then gonna regale us how the dodgers are a young plucky team that the yankees want to be and how the yankees and their eleventy billion dollar payroll and their un clutch arod are gonna be watching the playoffs on tv and saint joe is going to guide his club in that warm loving fatherly fashion. I swear lupidick and most of the msm lives for this type of shit.

    • Jeremy

      God forbid the Dodgers win it all. We will never hear the end of it.

      The articles will be doubly infuriating. Torre and the Dodgers will be the perfect fit. The Yankees will have lost in 2001-2007 because the team let Torre down.

      • Chris C.

        “God forbid the Dodgers win it all. We will never hear the end of it.”

        I hope they do! And I hope Torre takes the trophy and sticks it sideways right up Hank Steinbrenners ass!!!
        Imagine having to get insulted and critiqued about baseball matters by a guy who’s been shovelling horse shit his entire life?

      • Mark

        If the Dodgers end up winning the World Series that would be perfect revenge. I’ll never get over Reggie throwing his hip iinto the ball in the ’78 series.

        There’s only 1 team that I hate more than the Giants and that’s the Yankees.

        Go Torre and the Dodgers!!

  • http://madein1903.com Felixfella

    Must Edit “NL east”.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    …and the Dodgers clinched the NL East.

    Since when did you start working for ESPN? ;)

    • Chris

      You just need to go very very very far east.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH, BURN!

  • http://evizions.com eVizions

    I, for one, wish Torre all the luck in the world. Just cause he doesn’t manage us anymore doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a place in Yankee history.

    • Mike P

      Good man. At last someone who gives respect where it’s due. Joe Torre wasn’t the perfect Yankee manager, but he was the closest there’s ever been. He is a legend and we should all appreciate that. Enough of this bitching, Girardi manages us now.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        I agree. I think most people take issue with the way the media and hordes of idiot troglodyte fans of various teams use this Torre-Dodgers situation to fuel their anti-Yankee agenda, not with Joe himself.

        So, I’m torn between my desire to see Joe do well vs. by desire to not be bombarded by stupid asshats like Lupica, Sherman, Mets and Red Sox fans and Bristol, CT with their unending streams of moronic statements about how the Yankees suck yet again for missing the playoffs while Joe makes the playoffs, even though those two things are only barely related…

        • Chris C.

          “So, I’m torn between my desire to see Joe do well vs. by desire to not be bombarded by stupid asshats like Lupica, Sherman, Mets and Red Sox fans and Bristol, CT with their unending streams of moronic statements about how the Yankees suck yet again for missing the playoffs while Joe makes the playoffs, even though those two things are only barely related…”

          You’re not sure you want Joe Torre to do well because of WHAT???? Are you that weak, that you can’t say to yourself, “You know, I really like Joe Torre and Don Mattingly. They’re good men. I’m going to root for them, even though they’re not in pinstripes anymore!”

          And by the way……the Yankees missing the Playoffs and Torre not being here are indeed related. This season, the Yankees played about as tight and nervous as their fidgetty new manager! And don’t hand me this inury crap, either. Torre had injuries in 2007 too!

          Joe Torre may be the best clubhouse psychologist in the game. And that’s exactly what the Yankees lacked this year.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

            Not to mince words, but that’s a load of crap. What the Yankees lacked this year was production from their catcher, second baseman and center fielder as well as a few stating pitchers. It’s a simple as that. They didn’t lack some overplayed idea of a psychologist in the dugout.

            • Chris C.

              The Catcher was injured. Not getting production for Cano and Cabrera is Girardi’s fault. He allowed Cano to float like an overpaid, non-accountable prima donna through the whole season. No plate descipline, no nothing. Cano never would have had this type of season if Torre and Bowa were still here.
              And for some reason, Cabrera thought he was Ken Griffey Jr. and centerfield was forever his. Remember how shocked he was when he was sent down? He shouldn’t have been. Who would have thought that Girardi would end up being a bigger lightweight that Torre???

  • 1996 Yankee Alumni Society

    Good luck to Joe! Too bad players like Ethier, Kemp & Martin are not in pinstripes.

    • Steve S

      and Billingsley and Broxton and Loney.

      • 1996 Yankee Alumni Society

        Good points! The Wish They Were Here list from Los Angeles’ NL franchise is not a short one.

    • Chris C.

      “Good luck to Joe! Too bad players like Ethier, Kemp & Martin are not in pinstripes.”

      How could they be? Because that would mean that some successful player developement had occured here!

    • Mark

      Ethier, Kemp & Martin are not in pinstripes because the Dodgers have revitalized their farm system and are not trading their future for old, decrepit players. We’ll be looking to winning a few world championships that way….the Dodger way.

  • Baseballnation

    Lets be honest the Dodgers were a .500 team before Manny came over and for the better part of a month/month and a half Andre Ethier has been on an even bigger tear than Manny which says a whole lot. Take away ether of these and the scale tips in to doubt.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Well, the Dodgers did lose their Opening Day starter, AS caliber SS, AS caliber 2B and AS caliber CP for long stretches of the season, plus they got a negative contribution from Andruw. It’s not like they didn’t deal with adversity.

    • Chris C.

      “Lets be honest the Dodgers were a .500 team before Manny came over and for the better part of a month/month and a half Andre Ethier has been on an even bigger tear than Manny which says a whole lot. Take away ether of these and the scale tips in to doubt.”

      Yeah. Nevermind that the Dodgers lost Penny, Saito, Garciaparra, Furcal, Kent, Bermeil, Pierre, Jones, and Park for all extended periods of time, and still managed to remain in the race, at .500.
      Torre should get no credit for losing most of his top players from the opening day roster, and still keeping the team competative.

  • Stephen

    These sour grapes out of some people really aren’t fair. Sure the NL West is a terrible division and LA wouldn’t have made the playoffs without the addition of Manny, but I tip my cap to Joe and wish him well.

  • dkidd

    say what you want about his bullpen management, the dodgers were melting down a few weeks ago and that’s when torre is at his best. ask ned yost how difficult it is to create a sense of calm when things are going bad…

  • Raven

    I’m sure many Yankees fans will join Hank in blasting the D-backs for conspiring with Al Qaeda to hand the Dodgers the NL West title for free.
    Donnie Baseball was so right.
    Some people just took Torre “for granted, didn’t realize all the things he brings to the table as a manager.”

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      The Dodgers have 83 wins. The Yanks have 87. What am I missing that Torre “brought to the table”? In a good league, Torre would have just managed his team to a 3rd or 4th place finish, but he just enjoys the mediocrity of the NL West.

      I’m being overly critical of Torre here to make a point: Give any manager Manny Ramirez and a good pitching staff in the NL West, and they win the division.

      • Raven

        Oh yes I’m sure Hank will love to switch this team to NL West.
        We have Jeter, we have A-Rod, we have Cano.
        And we have Joba.
        The Yankees will be the NL West Champion till the end of time.
        Who’s afraid of NL pitchers like Brandon Webb, Dan Haren and Jake Peavy?

      • Mike P

        Like Raven said, what about the Diamondbacks? If it’s so easy to win the NL West, how come it took so long for the Dodgers to win it? Sure it’s nothing like the AL East, but it’s pretty hard to be snobish about Torre’s achievements from third place. And he’s Joe Torre. Criticising him was harsh in the past, and is pointless in the present.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

          “If it’s so easy to win the NL West, how come it took so long for the Dodgers to win it?”

          Because they’re not a good team. Nobody in the NL West is, that’s the point… it’s easy to win the NL west, because everybody in the division, INCLUDING the D-Bags and the Dodgers, are badly flawed. You could drop the Orioles in that division and they’d rip it apart like a bull in a china shop.

          That’s why some of us, while we love and respect Joe Torre, wish the media would stop polishing his knob for this quasi accomplishment (and bashing us in comparison.) It’s not criticizing Joe, it’s just asking for the spin machine to be turned off.

      • Chris C.

        The Dodgers have 83 wins. The Yanks have 87. What am I missing.

        Here’s what your missing……..the Dodgers, who’s payroll is halfof what the Yankees is, also lost 7of their 10 best players this seaon due to injuries. And they STILL won only 4 less games than the Yankees!
        THAT’s what you’re missing.

        And stop winning about divisions, like the Yankees shit-shovelling silver-spooned new owner.

        It used to be “give anyone the Yankeesroster, and they’ll go to the playoffs!” Then the first year Torre leaves town, they don’t.
        Too bad I’m a Yankee fan. Otherwise I’d geta good, hearty laugh over that! It’s bad enough I gotta listen to Hank Steinbrenner over the next 20 years or so.

      • Mark

        Good pitching always win championships. Don’t underestimate the strength of good pitching. Koufax, Drysdale, Hershiser, Valenzuela….the epitome of Dodger baseball.

  • http://ihadtoturnitoffwhen.blogspot.com scaf

    Ben,

    It took you one paragraph to say what you had to say about Torre . Why did it take me around seven ?