Comments on: What Went Wrong: Andy wasn’t so dandy

By: River Ave. Blues | What Went Wrong: The Dynamic Duo

River Ave. Blues | What Went Wrong: The Dynamic Duo — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:25:38 +0000

[...] the Yankees’ season, we’re looking at what went wrong. Earlier this week, we looked at Andy Pettitte’s poor second half and the lack of production out of the catcher’s spot. Today we turn to a subject near and [...]

By: tommiesmithjohncarlos

tommiesmithjohncarlos — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:53:42 +0000

And yet and still, Pettitte, Mussina, and even Pavano have value to us, in that all three of them have been here and pitched well before in the AL East and could potentially do it again, and all three of them could possibly return on relatively risk free one-year deals.

Assuming we add Sabathia, our corps of starters then becomes Sabathia and Wang, followed by Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, Aceves, McAllister, Betances, Brackman, etc. etc. We’ve got lots and lots of young talent that could soon become reliable starters, but only three of them are ready to contribute in 2009 and all three of them will need innings restrictions and short leashes. Having veteran starters who don’t come with long term commitments is a good thing. A better thing than spending money on Oliver Perez or Ryan Dempster, for example.

I’d offer one year deals (or options) to all three as decent bridge options while we continue to break in our young guns.

By: JimT

JimT — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:22:42 +0000

If I were the Yankees I would bring Pettitte back with the expectation that you might have to shut him down fora week to 10 days in the middle of the season just to recoup. I know that old time baseball guys hate the idea that players take days off, but a break following the all star break may have helped.

The contracts would have to be reasonable in length, a year or perhaps a year with an option, but I would bring back both Pettitte and Mussina. Make the younger pitchers earn their spots. If the younger pitchers perform well you can afford to give your vets a bit more time off and if they don’t you have options to demote them. It takes more that five or six starting pitchers to get through most seasons.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:52:45 +0000

Andy just needs to learn to pitch like Jamie Moyer.

By: steve (different one)

steve (different one) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:37:33 +0000

ok. agree to disagree then.

i would say there is a 0% chance that the Yankees bring him back for $16M next year, but i have no way of proving that, so we’ll just have to wait and see.

By: Stu H

Stu H — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:27:51 +0000

Based on the fact that the Yankees want him, and I don’t expect he’ll be willing to accept a pay cut to come back.

By: JohnnyC

JohnnyC — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:26:14 +0000

Sign him only if he accepts a one year $8-10 million dollar deal with a club option and reasonable buyout. Let us hope that we don’t reach the point this offseason where we NEED to re-sign him. I’m o.k. with him as a veteran 4 or 5 guy in the rotation. But that’s it.

By: JC

JC — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:16:30 +0000

Hi Guys.

At what point do we factor the injuries Andy has had into the equation?. Does anyone have any idea of the extent of the injuries?. Is this due to coming off the PEDs?

Personally, I’m pretty unsure if I want him back as I have somehow expected the worst each time out. However, the other options available dont fill me with confidence (CC aside).

You dont think he would take $10m or less (I’m sceptical too!)

By: steve (different one)

steve (different one) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:09:00 +0000

nonsense.

based on what?

By: Steve S

Steve S — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:59:53 +0000

Looking at the free agent options I think Pettitte might be a better alternative than most of these guys (sans CC). Sheets may need tommy john, Burnett will require huge dollars and he has serious health risks. If you lose Mussina, then bring back Andy in a number four starter role wouldn’t be the worse thing in the world. I think this year was a down year for him but he still has a good arm and the financial commitment to him will only be for one year. I cant see Sheets, Burnett or Lowe being good long term investments and if you sign CC then you really are only pursuing a number four starter (CC, Wang, Joba, Pettitte, Hughes & co.).