Oct
30

2009 Draft Order

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With the World Series over and the Hot Stove ready to ignite, it’s time to unveil a new feature for you here at RAB: the 2009 Draft Order Tracker. It is what it sounds like it is, a means to keep track of the changes in next year’s draft order due to free agent compensation. I’ll update the page throughout the winter and leave it up until next year’s draft so you can check back any time to see who’s picking where. Cool stuff, no?

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  • http://barackobama.com TurnTwo

    so, figuring that Bobby Abreu and Pudge Rodriguez are really the only two out of the several Type-A’s that will hit FA and go elsewhere, where do they end up?

    Abreu: Giants? Braves? Diamondbacks? Rays?

    Pudge: Mets? Astros? Marlins?

    • Slugger27

      im thinking abreu would fit perfectly with the cubs… i think theyre fed up with fukudome

  • http://www.mvn.com/pendingpinstripes Ashish Skaria

    This is definitely cool stuff. Thanks dude.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Damn, good luck with this. I estimated twenty-three potential Type-A free agents (31 total) would change teams this off-season, so you’re definitely going to have your work cut out for you.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Yeah but not all those guys will be offered in arbitration. Plus it’ll be easier doing a little at a time.

  • Jay

    Why do we have an extra third rounder for not signing Bittle? I thought it would be a second.

    • http://barackobama.com TurnTwo

      agreed… didnt understand that either.

    • daneptizl

      The ‘2nd round’ is actually the supplemental round and the ‘3rd round’ is actually the 2nd round.

      • daneptizl

        Although in the supplemental round, Mike gave every team a pick for the time being.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          No. The compensation pick for unsigned picks comes one spot after the original pick, regardless of round. Bittle was drafted with the 75th pick last year, so the Yanks get pick “75A” as compensation. Right now that pick happens to occur in the third round.

          I’ll add the sandwich round once those players start signing. The second round is the second round, third is the third.

          • AndrewYF

            This is interesting. So depending on the enormity of the supplemental round, the Yankees could have a high-2nd round pick as compensation.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              Don’t get too caught up in the round number. That pick will take place at the same overall number, after the 75th pick, regardless. It’s probably better for the Yanks if the pick is in the third round, because then the slot bonus will be less.

  • Capital T

    You would think the Phillies would drop to the last pick of the round for winning the WS. That is how the NFL works.

    • http://barackobama.com TurnTwo

      i believe its in order of best record at the end of the season, not the way the teams finish the playoffs.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Yeah, it’s the reverse order of last year’s standings, regardless of who wins the WS.

  • THIS is LE david

    IF the philles grab moose we can pick before the sox and rays

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Or if the Mets grab Abreu or Pudge.

      • http://barackobama.com TurnTwo

        i didnt even think of the Mets being in the Abreu market, but he does make a LOT of sense there.

        definitely a safer, though not as impactful, option than importing Manny.

      • Reggie C.

        Abreu makes sense for the mets. Minaya wants some GOOD veterans instead of mediocre Luis Castillo types. Against NL pitching, i’d think Abreu should be very solid (near-all star) and give that mets lineup more length.

        Couldn’t have been easy watching the Phils win it.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

        Cosign. I could totally see the Mets and Abreu.

  • Blackdragon905

    question, how come the mets are ahead of the yanks? they both had the same record and split the season series, how is it determined which team goes ahead of which?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      If two teams finish with the same record, the team with the worst record the previous year gets the first pick. San Fran & Atlanta had the same record this year, but SF had a worse record last year, so they get the higher pick.

  • Reggie C.

    I know we usually grab the best Boras-rep’d player on the board, but does anybody think that the Cole fiasco might cause Opp and Cash to go another route??

    • http://barackobama.com TurnTwo

      i dont think it was a specificaly a boras rep’d player… it was the best talent on the board who fell, and usually they fell that far because of signability concerns, and it turned out that Boras was the kid’s agent… but not all signability players are rep’d by Boras.

      id guess they’ll still employ the same strategery, taking best player on the board, but do a little more HW on the kid and his family before making the pick.

      • steve (different one)

        actually, if Cole was a typical Boras client, he’d be a Yankee.

        i am sure that Boras did NOT advise Cole to pass on a huge bonus from the Yankees to go to college where he can’t enter the draft for another 3 years.

        it’s actually the opposite, the Yankees were probably MORE likely to think Cole was signable because he hired Boras as his agent.

      • Reggie C.

        Remember that Buster Posey falling to the Yanks rumor? Posey supposedly was asking for at least 10 Million up front. I wish he fell to us.

        Anyways, lets hope the signability guys are a continuing trend in drafts.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I doubt it. Boras represents the best players, and that’s who the Yanks like to take.

      • steve (different one)

        actually, who they like to take are the players most likely to be labeled busts within their first 3 months of professional baseball.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          Because they ARE busts. Brian Cashman hasn’t run a good draft since 1973.

          • Mike Pop

            DAmn Right he hasnt

  • Slugger27

    mike, where will i be able to check in on the order tracker throughout the winter… is it gonna be on a sidebar or somethin?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      It’s up top under the banner. Next to the Commenting Guidelines, Depth Chart, etc.

      • Slugger27

        gotcha, thanks, appreciate u doin that… should keep ya busy

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Small typo, Mike:

    Compensation picks gained for failing to sign a player from the 2007 2008 Draft are protected from free agent compensation rules.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I’m an idiot. Thanks, fixed all the loose ’07s.

  • steve (different one)

    we really need the Dodgers to sign Abreu….

  • Januz

    Turn Two, Cashman, said he did not hold Boras responsible for the Cole situation. I am not a Boras fan, but when someone is not responsible, what can you do? This was simply a case, of someone whose father did not feel he could not produce in the pressure of the Bronx (The fact that he went to UCLA (With the SMALLEST baseball venue in the Pac-10 note the following:Jackie Robinson Stadium is a baseball stadium in Los Angeles, California. It is the home field of the University of California, Los Angeles college baseball team, the UCLA Bruins. The stadium holds 1,250 people, which makes it the smallest baseball venue in the Pac 10 Conference. source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Robinson_Stadium_)), instead of a school with a great baseball reputation like Oregon State or USC (Let alone, an academic reputation like Stanford), tells me this guy needs a lot of growing up, and succeeding as a major leaguer may not be his primary focus in life). The mistakes they made were with Bittle, and not coming up with enough alternatives to Cole (Brett Marshall was one who did want to play here, and they were able to sign).
    They key to the 2008 free agent signing period and the 2009 draft, is finding guys who actually want to be here, who consider it a privledge to wear pinstripes, and who consider the pressure to perform here, a challenge they are looking forward to.
    Finally, I am not the least bit upset over Cole, nor would I be, if Sabathia does not want to play here, and thus, signs somewhere else. I would rather have him go 17-9 with the Dodgers, than pay him over $20m to go 15-14 here, because his heart is not really into being here.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      It’s good to know that CC going 17-9 with the Dodgers or going 15-14 with us are the only two possible options. Apparently a players’ “heart not really into being here” is a seven win swing. Thanks for clearing that up.

  • Steve

    With Pudge (A), Abreu (A), Giambi (?), Mussina (A) and Pettitte (A) and Marte (A) all potentially leaving, even if the Yanks sign 2 Type A free agents, they can still wind up with anywhere from 7 to 11 of the top 100 picks.

    I can see I-Rod going to a small market team that’s thinks its ready to compete. Someone like the Royals (replacing Miguel Olivo) or Reds (replacing Paul Bako/Javier Valentin) all of whom are free agents. He wont be crazy expensive in terms of years or dollars and would add a veteran presence with a winning pedigree to the clubhouse. He did it once before with the Marlins.

    The Padres and Nats could use him as well, if he signs with either of them we should throw a parade in his honor. Tell Farnsy he gets a float as well.

  • CJ

    The Mariners don’t neccessarily have the #20A pick. Since Fields is a college senior he has until the day before the 09 draft to sign. The Mariners are fairly confident they will get him signed, the last I heard they were only about 250K apart in negotiations. I would put something about this extended deadline to end any confusion.