Oct
11

ALCS Game 2: BoSox @ Rays

By Mike Axisa

Two safe, polished, high probability college pitchers with long & successful track records high risk, super high reward high school arms from Texas face off tonight, as Scotty Kazmir looks to even the series at one against Josh Beckett, a.k.a. TEH AWESOMEST PLAYOFF PITCHER EVA!!11!1onehundredeleven!! Superstud Evan Longoria really needs to figure it out and quick for the Rays, he’s only 1 for 16 since his 3 for 3, 2 HR showing in Game 1 of the ALDS.

Rays’ fill-in closer Dan Wheeler has thrown a grand total of two innings in the last 18 days, so he’s got to get some work in today with the off day tomorrow, right?

Boston
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, RF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
5. Jason Bay, LF
6. Jed Lowrie, SS
7. All-Star Catcher Jason Varitek, C
8. Mark Kotsay, 1B
9. Coco Crisp, CF
- Scott Kazmir, P (12-8, 3.49) Josh Beckett, P (12-10, 4.03)

Tampa Bay
1. Akinori Iwamura, 2B
2. BJ Upton, CF
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. Evan Longoria, 3B
5. Carl Crawford, LF – I can’t help but think they’d be better off sliding everyone down a spot in the order & letting him bat leadoff … lengthen the lineup a little bit
6. Cliff Floyd, DH
7. Dioner Navarro, C
8. Gabe Gross, RF
9. Jason Bartlett, SS
- Josh Beckett, P (12-10, 4.03) Scott Kazmir, P (12-8, 3.49)

Oh, and how about them Rangers? Where can the Yanks get a kid like Brandon Dubinsky?

Posted on Saturday, October 11th, 2008 at 7:55 pm in Game Threads.

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Mike A. says:

I love how TBS gave the weather report for inside the dome.

Mike Pop says:
 
 
Mike Pop says:

You hear how Hank regrets not pushing harder for Johan ?

Mike A. says:

Yeah. Maybe if they got Johan he would have showed up to more than 2 games this year.

 
Ivan says:

It tells ya more and more Hal is running the show.

 
Steve H says:

Maybe the Yankees would have enjoyed the same success that Johan’s Mets had

 
 
Ivan says:

Yo Whats up Kazmir.

Mike A. says:

Seriously. He had no problem getting the first two outs of the inning.

 
 
Ivan says:

Just a bad inning for Kazmir. Can’t do that.

Steve says:

Cant lose the first 2 at home, either. Especially when you’re as young as the Rays are and had a ridiculous record at home this year.

We all wondered how the Rays would handle the pressure, and its becoming clear. No hit through 7 vs a Dice K that could throw strikes for the first 3 innings, and now this.

 
 
Steve says:

2008 World Series-Sox vs Phillies, who ya got?

Mike A. says:

I’m sticking to my Dodgers-Rays prediction. This series is far from over.

 
 
Mike Pop says:
 
Ivan says:

Talk about a “No shit sherlock” scouting report for beckett.

 
Mike Pop says:

Phillies over the Rays in 6

 
Steve says:

BTW-RIP NY Sun.

Just checked to see what Marchman’s been writing, and saw that they closed shop at the end of September.

Sucks, but its tough being a neo-con newspaper in NYC. Its like being an atheist in the Bible Belt. The newspaper biz in general is going the way of the horse and buggy, much less these niche daily pubs.

 
Mike Pop says:

Josh has it tonight

Steve H says:
Mike Pop says:
 
 
 
Mike Pop says:

I think we messed up cutting Pena eh ?

Mike A. says:

Yeah, but so did several other teams.

 
 
Mike A. says:

Carlos Pena is a beast. Even his batting stance is intimidating.

Steve H says:

Why can’t we get guys like that?

Mike Pop says:

I know….we can never get lucky with those kind of guys

27 this year says:

I think it is more that we don’t give them a chance. Navarro took years at the major league level to have a good year and same with Pena. Did we really want to deal with that much time of suckiness for the “slight” possibility they don’t do good. Basically to get lucky like that, we would have Kennedy pitch a lot and maybe he will become good like those guys. They just needed an extended chance.

 
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Teh awesomest postseason pitcher eva!11!1

Mike A. says:

87 mph meatball right over the plate. Even I could have hit that out … of the infield.

Steve H says:

Eva Longoria could have hit that

 
 
Mike Pop says:

Thats gonna take a hit like Canos trade value did this season !!!

Steve H says:

No, ESPN will come up with some excuse for him.

Steve says:

I’m sure they will make some kind of oblique reference to his health.

Mike A. says:

“Josh Beckett, the greatest big game pitcher of our – or any – generation just didn’t have it tonight.”

I can hear it now…

Steve says:

you forget the “modern-day Bob Gibson” part.

 
 
Steve H says:

He’s gritty and gutty so he’s pitching thru it, he must be hurt. In fact, this performance makes him an even better postseason pitcher. He’s now the 1st and 2nd best playoff pitcher of all time.

Steve says:

Well now that’s not possible. He doesn’t have a scruffy grit-beard or gamer’s shaved head. He just has that little scruff of hair on his chin, and everyone knows that just means he’s a homosexual.

 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Yep. Either that, or they’ll just ignore his most recent postseason pitching performances, and focus mostly on the the 5 yr old ones.

Steve H says:

Too bad they don’t do that with A-Rod. Either that or ignore the ALDS performances, and pay attention to the dominating ALCS performances. Were he playing for the Sux, that’s what they’d focus on.

 
Mike Pop says:

No no no no Lester will become the 2nd or 3rd best ever

Mike A. says:

No no no no Lester will become is the 2nd or 3rd best ever

Fixed.

 
Mike Pop says:

On MLBTR some sox fan was like i wouldnt deal lester alone for peavy becuz of thier playoff recorrds … lol Idk Id think id deal Lester for PEavy but idk.. Its like us dealing Joba for him which would be tough to do

 
 
 
 
 
 
Ivan says:

Finally Longoria. For a while, you was hitting like Eva Longoria.

 
Mike A. says:

Alright Kaz, they bailed you out. Now do your part.

 
 
 
RichYF says:

Beckett is in the dugout explaining why he wears the sign of the vagina around his neck.

 
Joey says:

Love how Kaz and Becks must have been traded before the game (thats how we know Mike doesn’t need to copy anyone elses lineup!)

Mike A. says:

D’oh.

Fixed now, my bad.

 
 
Mike Pop says:

Could Ajax be our Longoria ? Or will it have to be Jesus Montero ?

Mike A. says:

The Yanks don’t have anyone at that level. The only two guys in the minors even remotely close to being that good are Wieters and Heyward.

Mike Pop says:

Would you say Bruce is up in that tier ?

Mike A. says:

Close. He has more power than Longoria, but Evan’s a better pure hitter and overall player.

 
 
Steve says:

Not as all around players, but you could see Montero having more power than Evan.

 
Ivan says:

Wieters is amazing. That dude is an absolute STUD. Heyward is pretty damn good too, although I will say this, I think Montero might be the better pure hitter than Heyward, but not as good all-round of course.

 
 
Steve says:

I dont think A-Jax will ever have anything similar to Evan’s power potential.

 
Ivan says:

You wish A-Jax could hit like Longoria. Chances of that is very, very little.

Mike Pop says:

Ive seen Longoria play in Low A short season for the Hudson Valley Renegades… Dude was hitting balls over the trees lol…It was awesome seeing a future star there ya know.. I live like 20 minutes by the stadium and when I heard bout Longoria I had to check him out a few times

Mike Pop says:

Also seen Beckham a few times.. He looks like a good player lol obviously being drafted 1 overall and all

 
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

“We have been down 0-1 before.”

Actually … no, they haven’t. But nice try Buck Martinez.

 
Mike Pop says:

Beckett iss sooooooo ggoooooood !!

Steve says:

Its the vagina beard. The position players all have macho, gritty full facial hair and he has the pussy on his chin. He balances out the Yin and Yang on the team, which is why they are so successful.

Mike Pop says:
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Jason Bartlett is the most indispensable Ray? Really?

I mean, I understand he came in and did a good job shoring up the SS position, but is he that important?

Ivan says:

He was the Team MVP, go figure.

 
Mike Pop says:

they OD on that kind of talk

 
Steve says:

Typical post season baseball broadcast

Guy who is an unsung hero-check

Guys who is good defensively who we call call the “Glue of the infield/outfield”-check

Kid who came up from the minors (preferably a 27 year old career minor leaguer) who made the starting lineup-check

Pitcher who has come back from horrific injury-check

Anyone on either team who had somebody close to them die or get horribly sick during the past year-check

 
 
Ivan says:
 
Mike A. says:
 
RichYF says:

Wow did Scruff McGruff just hit a homer? Jeez.

Steve says:

Somebody check that lil guy for steroids.

I was going to say Human Growth Hormone, but . . . . lets be honest. . . .

 
 
Mike Pop says:

Cmon Scotty you usually dominate the Sox

 
Ivan says:

Yo Scott Kazmir is ticking me off.

Steve says:

Dont worry, he wont be out there long. He never is.

 
Steve H says:

Bet they wish they had Zambrano back.

 
 
Ivan says:

71 pitches in 3 innings already for Kazmir.

Mike A. says:

He has to work on that.

 
 
Steve says:

6-9 for the BoSox

J Lowrie SS, J Varitek C, M Kotsay 1B C, Crisp CF

Not exactly your classic Sox lineup. A lot of outs in that lineup.

 
Mike Pop says:

Cant wait till Pedroia goes bald hehe

 
Mike Pop says:

Sucks that we have to compete with these teams

 
Mike Pop says:
 
Steve says:

Beck Joshett (his evil twin) let up that HR.

As we all know, Josh Beckett doesn’t let up any HRs in the post season.

 
Ivan says:

Upton in the mothafuckin House bitches.

 
Mike A. says:

Upton’s shoulder must really be bothering him.

TEH AWESOMEST PLAYOFF PITCHER EVA!!111!!!

 
Mike Pop says:

Man Beckettt is soo freaken good its crazy

 
Mike Pop says:

Maddon told Longoria to be more selective and Longoria said ..wateva wateva i do what i want

 
Ivan says:

No excuses, hey CHW was hurting and sucked in the postseason, and the world gave him grief.

RichYF says:

What are the chances that the Steinbrenners can outright buy the Rays franchise?

RichYF says:

“Click here to cancel “reply”" button sucks.

 
Mike Pop says:

Lol and move them to New York and call them the Yanks but we get to keep Arod Joba Hughes Wang Cano and Mo plus our top 10 prospects.. Money can buy anything

Mike Pop says:
 
 
 
Steve says:

and pitched on short rest . . .

 
 
Steve says:
 
Mike A. says:

Maybe I was wrong about batting Crawford leadoff…

 
Mike Pop says:

TB still owns Boston in my opinion

 
Ivan says:

The way Beckett is going, he’s gonna lose that postseason arguement when people say he’s overrated.

 
Ivan says:

What the fuck Crawford.

Steve says:

Never trust a man with a tattoo on his neck.

Steve H says:

1) Never get less than twelve hours sleep, 2) Never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city, and 3) Never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Y’know what? Everything is still cream cheese…

 
 
 
Mike Pop says:

Beckett proved his grit with that pickoff

 
Mike A. says:

Oof, Crawford fell asleep there.

 
Ivan says:
 
RichYF says:

Is it just me or should Crisp have been on the verge of scoring there? I thought he was “speedy?”

RichYF says:

Disregard that, I thought someone was on first. I was reading something and I have the game muted so I don’t /wrists.

 
 
Ivan says:
 
Mike A. says:

I love hearing that Ellsbury’s 0 for his last 15, or seeing the Sox pen active in the 3rd inning of a Beckett postseason start, stuff like that.

Bring them back down a peg.

Ivan says:

Well your gonna love that solo bomb by Cliff Flyod.

 
 
Mike A. says:

OMG Beckett is soooo awesome.

RichYF says:

Dude, cut him some slack. That was the man, the legend, Cliff Floyd. All he does is rake.

 
 
Steve H says:

Who’s next in Home Run Derby??

Steve says:

Apparently, Pedroia

 
 
dkidd says:

tim kirkjian called josh beckett “one of the top 5 post-season pitchers ever”

not so much

Mike A. says:

The TBS announcing crew is already 5 minutes deep into excuses for Beckett.

 
 
Mike A. says:

New York Rangers, 4-0-0.

Joey says:

they be pretty good, huh. And all they had to do was get rid of Jagr

Mike A. says:

Seriously. Maybe all the Yanks need to do is get rid of A-Rod…

Joey says:

difference is Jagr was a past his prime softy, didn’t want to hit or be hit (can you tell I’m not a fan?) A-Rod is still in his prime and plays good D, which Jagr didn’t exactly help out on every shift

 
Steve says:

Worked for the Mariners . . . . .

 
 
 
 
dkidd says:

dave stewart called

he wants his reputation as a big game pitcher back

Steve H says:

He didn’t pitch for the Sox. Therefore, not a big game pitcher.

 
 
Mike A. says:

Three more outs then hit the showers, Scotty.

Mike A. says:

Okay, maybe now would be the time to hit the showers.

 
 
 
Joey says:

damn you you freakin balding midget

 
dkidd says:

will pedroia win the al mvp?

Mike A. says:

I hope not. We’ll never hear the end of it.

 
 
RichYF says:

Scrappy McBaldspot again? What the hell. Who does this guy think he is? Jose Vizcaino?

 
Steve says:

2009 Red Sox prediction-

Beckett-Finally gets shoulder surgery for the labrum issue he’s had all the way back to his days in Florida, the one that almost nixed the trade to the Sox. Turns out he was hiding it all post season.

Dice-K turns into a latter day Hideo Nomo, and begins to realize that you cant walk 6/9IP and be successful in the bigs.

Lester-Has an off year. It happens.

Wakefield, Byrd and Masterson pitch like Wakefield, Byrd and Masterson.

84-78 record 4th place finish, behind the Blue Jays. Dynasty over.

Mike A. says:

Dynasty over.

Well, it hasn’t exactly started yet.

Ivan says:

Not what ESPN is saying.

They basically saying they are better than the yanks of the late 90’s.

 
Steve says:

Close enough.

Seriously, if Beckett is hiding something serious you can imagine they will be very serious bidders in the Peavey sweepstakes. They could outbid anyone else involved (inc the Yanks) if they want.

 
 
Steve H says:

Let’s hope so. Oh yeah, and Big Papi finally gets busted for roid/hgh use.

Mike A. says:

Big Papi finally gets busted for roid/hgh use.

Hah, not a long as George Mitchell is on the Red Sox’s payroll.

Steve H says:

Oh come on now, totally impartial. Just like the leaked Paul Byrd story right before he had to face the Sox in the playoffs. Of course now that Byrd is on the Sox, Gammons puts out stories that it was legit use of HGH. Except that it was prescribed by………….a freaking dentist.

 
 
 
Reggie C. says:

Dice-k strikes out more than his fair share and so he’s able to get out of most self-induced jams.

Lester is still a wild card for next year. He so surpassed expectations this year that i think its unfair to expect a repeat … or is it..

All i’m saying is that the RS are not a 4th place team. Bay jacks the RS ahead.

Steve says:

“Dice-k strikes out more than his fair share”

So did Nomo.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/n/nomohi01.shtml

 
 
 
Joey says:

you’ve gotta be shittin me……..

 
 
Steve says:

Bastards.

Oh well, next year they’re going to suck.

 
Reggie C. says:

the bushwacker strikes again … walk him next time !!

 
dkidd says:

don’t call it a dynasty if they don’t win the series this year. 2 titles in 5 years is not a dynasty!

 
RichYF says:

I think I’m going to move out of where I am on the sole basis that my roommate and her boyfriend are Sox fans. Annoying ones.

 
Mike A. says:

Going to Balfour in the 5th, huh? Guess they’re going with him for the rest of this inning + the 6th, then Howell for the 7th + 8th, with Wheeler backing him up.

 
Mike A. says:
 
Steve says:
 
Ivan says:

Get the fuck outta here.

 
RichYF says:

If Beckett wins this game he’ll retain his status as the best post-season pitcher of all time. Why? Because he gutted it out, stuck in there, and put his team in a position to win the game. That’s what players who are the best ever do.

Mike A. says:

I was just thinking that to myself. Makes me sick.

 
Steve H says:

Thank you Peter Gammons

 
 
Ivan says:

Great, now Balfour is sucking now.

 
Steve says:

Prediction-Balfour’s gonna throw a fastball here

 
Ivan says:

come on, you can’t walk Varitek.

 
Reggie C. says:

boston on the verge of an even bigger inning … if that’s possible.

 
Bill N says:

Seriously…….. quick throw that kid in the tank with the rays in it. The world doesn’t need more sox fans.

 
Ivan says:

With all this action in this game, it’s quite amazing were only in the top 5th inning.

 
Ivan says:

Wow Maddon really going to his go to guys early.

Mike A. says:

Off day tomorrow, gotta do what you gotta do.

He’s still got Wheeler, Price and Bradford back there, plus Miller for a LHB in a big spot.

 
 
 
dkidd says:

this inning started in 1973

Steve H says:

it’s not going to end until 2023

 
 
Ivan says:

You gotta get Crips out no?

 
 
Bill N says:

Holy crap did you guys see that ? There is a blood spot on Becketts vag. He is giving it his all his grit tonight ala Schilling

Steve H says:

So I guess they still keep sharpie’s in the locker room.

 
 
Mike A. says:

Carlos muthaf%^&#n Pena.

Mike A. says:

Bah, he’s got to be on second on the play.

 
NYFan50 says:

Down 3 times already this game, they just keep fighting back.

 
 
Bill N says:

And yes Buck plently of runners take off for an unoccupied base when the tag is firmly still placed on them. Thank you Pena….

 
ohbwonhomie says:

I’m starting the trade for peavy campaign, I said it a while back that the yanks can probably put a package together. Cano, hughes, ipk and two others maybe mid-level. gotta happen gotta happen. i’m losing my mind here. just wanna run down all these sux fans while driving thru the boston streets. peavy would be great for joba as well. he’s a brain out there.

Steve H says:

way too much. he pitches in the nl, in a pitchers park. way way too much to give up for peavy

 
RichYF says:

Mike, what’s it take to get Peavy?

CC and Peavy. Screw offense. Just get that.

I love Hughes as much as the next rebuilding lover thingy person, but he’s dispensable for a 27 year-old stud (as Mike A. would say).

All the Yanks have to do is get to the big show and then ride CC, Peavy, CMW, Joba, whoever to victory. One of them has to be hot no? I’d love Teixeira and some other bats, but to me it’s like this: If your pitcher is “on,” it doesn’t matter who he is facing. If your pitcher is throwing meatballs up like Kazmir and Beckett tonight, everyone will light him up (especially some of the quality bad pitch hitters that we have *cough* ARod *cough*).

That’s the stance I’ve had for a while now. I see our “1000 run” lineup just failing miserably to these quality starters. When a guy is dealin’, a guy is dealin’.

Mike A. says:

To get Peavy? Lots and lots. I’d say at least 3 young, ML ready players with <3 yrs of service time for starters, then add a prospect or two that’s not far off. I have no idea what that would be for the Yanks … Hughes, Kennedy, Melancon, Miranda, Jackson?

They have no reason trade him because he’s signed so cheap for so long. If they aren’t blown away by an offer this winter, see what gets offered at the deadline, and if you still don’t like it you can trade him next offseason.

Ivan says:

that’s a farm system killer.

 
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Holy shit. We have ourselves a game fellas.

TEH AWESOMEST PLAYOFF PITCHER EVA!!11!1!!

NYFan50 says:

Longoria is a beast.

 
NYFan50 says:

Also: suck it, Beckett.

 
 
Steve H says:

$10 says Beckett feigns an injury after this postseason to justify his suckiness.

 
Reggie C. says:

Why don’t the Yanks have any of these type of players?!?!?!

Mike A. says:

Because the Rays drafted them all before the Yanks had the chance.

Reggie C. says:

Yea. Drafting from the top spot for the past decade can make a team worst to First.

 
 
 
NYFan50 says:

Beckett’s final line is a masterpiece:

4.1 IP, 9 H, 8 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 3 HR.

pwned.

 
 
Reggie C. says:

Whose ceiling is higher: BJ Upton or Jacoby Ellsbury ?

Ivan says:

Are you serious? Are you fucking serious.

Reggie C. says:
 
NYFan50 says:

Hahaha, I was thinking the same thing.

 
 
RichYF says:

Hahahaha. I don’t think he is…well I hope he isn’t, but clearly Ellsbury is better.

He’s so scrappy and fast. Upton makes it look too easy. He’s lazy and has no work ethic. There’s no training for being gritty.

 
 
Joey says:

Ellsbury bunting = epic fail

Joey says:

ok, maybe not epic, but fail none the less

Mike A. says:

Beckett’s already got a monopoly on tonight’s supply of epic failing.

UWS says:

Awww, come on. There’s always more epic failing to be found!

 
 
 
 
Ivan says:

Gardner could of done that.

 
NYFan50 says:

I thought perhaps Price was going to pitch this inning.

 
Reggie C. says:

Has Cano dropped to 3rd best 2B in the AL East ?!?

Ivan says:

I be honest, I still think Cano is better than Pedroia.

 
 
Ivan says:

Pedroia can suck on a penis.

Steve H says:
 
 
Joey says:

Announcer: “He’s gritty, he’s dirty, he’s… he’s just one of those guys you’d love to have on your team”

Can anyone guess who he’s referring to?

RichYF says:

Who are the 2004-2008 Red Sox?

What do I win?

Joey says:

uuuuhhhh those games Mike, Ben, and Joe were giving away at the beginning of the season but never got around to it? lol

Mike A. says:

Yeah, that was EPIC FAIL on our part.

Joey says:

lol it’s okay, we still love ya’ll

 
 
 
 
Ivan says:

Robinson Cano, oh wait……….

 
 
Reggie C. says:
 
Mike A. says:

David Ortiz, meet Uncle Charlie. He’ll be staying for dinner.

 
Ivan says:

Ortiz sure misses manny. All those fastballs gone.

Steve H says:

He also misses the days before they had steroid testing.

Mike A. says:

I actually just checked the stats…

Ortiz before the Manny trade: .266-.360-.498
After: .262-.381-.519

Remember the wrist was bothering him before the deal though. Those numbers are definitely skewed somehow.

Reggie C. says:

Not much of a difference … nothing significant anyway. Definitely a lingering hand issue with Ortiz. besides getting more patient and taking walks, the power jump wasnt anything noticeable.

 
Ivan says:

True but not having manny hurts though.

 
 
 
RichYF says:

I was just about to say the same thing. I know Bay homered tonight and has been pretty good this postseason (I think anyway, I’m not bothering to check stats), but is there any way you pitch to Ortiz knowing Manny isn’t behind him?

 
 
Ivan says:

Everybody looks like a genius when ya team is winning uh?

 
Mike A. says:

This is going to be fun. It’s the 6th inning and Maddon’s used all his main bullpen bullets. David Price, come on down!

 
dkidd says:

chad bradford vs youk = “moneyball” reunion

 
Mike A. says:

Erg, come on BJ. Gotta throw to the cutoff man there, keep Youk at second.

 
Ivan says:
 
dkidd says:

chad bradford’s first ever post-season run allowed

 
Reggie C. says:

What do the Yanks do to become a vaunted offense once more?!? Watching the RS and Rays trade runs is sickening b/c i know this is a game the Yanks would not keeping up with either squad.

Ivan says:
Reggie C. says:

Yeah. The Yankee offense was pathetic. everybody is well aware of the number of games where we got held to 2 runs or less.

Ivan says:

Tampa’s offense wasn’t that much better either, considering they hit worse in RISP than the yanks.

Steve H says:

Oh, and don’t forget, their pathetic offense scored more runs than the Rays this year.

 
 
 
 
Steve H says:

Do you remember the 2-0 game last night? Kind of a small sample size I’d say, less than a full game. They did have 15 and 19 run games against the Sox this year and tied the season series. They also won the season series against the Rays, 11-7.

Ivan says:

and did pretty well against the sox.

 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Something tells me this game isn’t going to end 8-7.

Steve H says:

Let’s hope it’s 20-7

Ivan says:
 
 
 
Ivan says:

Jason Bartlett, the most valueable 85 OPS.

 
Whitey14 says:
Mike A. says:

So how’s this game treating your blood pressure?

 
Joey says:

Whitey, our favorite Sox fan around here, what up, haven’t heard from you in awhile (or maybe it’s been me)

 
 
Ivan says:

David Price top of the 7th no?

Steve H says:

Like to see him for 3 innings.

 
 
Reggie C. says:

BJ UPton is a weird dude. How do you go from slugging .500 to .400?? He hit that monster shot earlier but then he looks lost at the plate.

Mike A. says:

He separated his shoulder and tore his labrum on a swing in May – he’s having surgery to fix the labrum in the offseason. That had to contribute to the power outage.

That’s why I’m scared of this team; Upton, Crawford, Baldelli, even Pena to some extent had down years, and no one had a career year.

Steve H says:

Agree on the offense, but their offense wasn’t why they were so good. They had all 5 starters in the rotation all year once Kazmir started in early May. That won’t happen again. Granted the rotation will be improved with Price, but they are due for some fall off from Jackson/Sonnanstine, and they are due for some injuries. Plus, who even knows what to expect from Kazmir going forward. For all of his promise, I’m not sure he’s ever going to put it all together.

Mike A. says:

I can totally see Edwin Jackson pitching for the Mets next year. Not sure who they’d trade for him though. Ryan Church would be perfect, but no way Minaya deals him, he was one of his guys from his days as a scout with the Expos.

 
Ivan says:

And were lucky with Balfour and Howell having big years out if the pen. Matt Garza having a great year.

 
Reggie C. says:

so you think the Rays are another hitter away from becoming a stable power-house? They can afford a drop-off in their 5th spot in the rotation b/c the other four guys are going to be really good: shields, price, garza, and kaz. Unless Kaz goes under the knife this offseason, you gotta think he’s healthy.

 
 
Ivan says:

Yea but remember, when teams like TB have almost everything break right for ya, that usually doesn’t happen the next year.

Not to take anything away from them but they have overachieve a little. None of their pitchers got hurt this season.

Mike A. says:

That’s true, but their depth is better than most. They have Niemann, Talbot and Davis waiting down at AAA, and those guys would be starting for most teams.

Steve H says:

Just like Kennedy and Hughes, they can’t totally rely on those guys if they are going to be contenders. They might pan out if called on, but they might not.

Reggie C. says:

Right now , unless Kaz is hiding an injury, the Rays won’t be dipping into that AAA crowd. They don’t have to. Unlike the Yanks, the Rays have 2 ready made guys in Garza and price.

Steve H says:

Yeah, but one of them could get hurt running in an interleague game. One could pully a hammy. One could pull a quad and they would have to dip into their AAA reserves. Injuries aren’t mutually exclusive of each other.

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Ivan says:

Yea but, if your a TB fan, to even have a remote chance to have the year their having, you need the big two of the sox and yanks to have a bad season, which they got. Next season, that’s probably not gonna be the case.

 
 
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Heh, I love that even Bradford’s pickoff attempt throws to first are submarine.

 
Bill N says:

Ahhh I cannot escape the shitty announcing, just got to work get in the truck and yep Joe Morgan amazing simply amazing.

 
Mike A. says:

Ugh, why is Pena bunting. I know the left side of the infield is open, but swing away dammit.

Ivan says:

Rob Neyer said that occaisionally it helps to bunt the ball the other side of the field.

 
 
dkidd says:

is it me, or have we seen a ton of stupid bunt attempts in this post-season?

Mike A. says:
Ivan says:

That was more Scioscia fault.

 
dkidd says:

that was a stupid bunt CALL by the manager

aybar’s attempt was not stupid so much as incompetent

 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Check out Chad Bradford coming out for the 8th.

 
Mike A. says:

OMG why didn’t Betemit go for that ball?!?!

/forceofhabit

 
Ivan says:
Mike A. says:

I’m guessing Wheeler.

Mike A. says:

Ah, Miller for the lefty.

 
 
 
dkidd says:

betemitesque at first

 
Ivan says:

No Shit Buck Martinez.

 
Ivan says:

Maddon you could of had price for that one.

 
Mike A. says:

Oh boy. Rays are going to earn this one.

 
 
Ivan says:

Not enough grit there.

 
Mike A. says:

Walk Bay. Just do it.

Mike A. says:

Shit, walk Lowrie too, and pitch to Varitek.

 
 
 
E-ROC says:

Grit base running by Pedroia

 
Ivan says:

Why Im not surprise.

 
dkidd says:
 
dkidd says:

someone please murder buck martinez

 
Joey says:

“Pedroia’s showing the flair of being an MVP-type player” Alright, get off his dick and do your job for once announcer guy

 
Mike R. says:

“This Red Sox team is relentless. They found a way to tie it.”

Apparently Pedroia’s grittiness caused the wild pitch and wusslike underarm throw by Navarro and his great baseball instincts told him to run.

dkidd says:

exactly. no mention of the ludicrous “charlie sheen in major league” wild pitch?

 
 
dkidd says:

rays up last. that should help in this game

 
Mike A. says:

Can this game end please? I’ve got Forgetting Sarah Marshall on Blu-ray waiting for me…

Mike R. says:

They’re giving First Blood on Spike. Something tells me that you can watch it and still tune in in time to see the end of the game.

BTW Forgetting Sarah Marshall is all kinds of awesome.

 
dkidd says:
Mike R. says:

I really enjoyed it. I definitely would not want to see it in Blu-Ray, but I liked it.

 
 
 
Joey says:

Ok Mike, top 5 games I need for PS3 are:
1. NHL 09
2. Madden 09
3. Brothers in Arms: Hells Highway (? Heard it was very good)
4. ?
5. ?

Mike A. says:

Never played #3. I usually stick to sports games, but Call of Duty 4 was awesome. Can’t help you any more than that. My attention span is legendary, I can play one game for months without getting bored of it.

 
 
Bill N says:

Who gave Pedrioa the Gorilla Mask ?

Bill N says:

noone watches always sunny in philadelphia ?

Mike A. says:

I guess not. I figured that was an ugly GritBeard reference.

Bill N says:

thats a shame, such a funny show

 
Lanny says:

Always Sunny is a classic show. Best comedy on tv right now with the office and 30 rock

 
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Yikes. They got lucky that ball bounced over the wall.

 
Ivan says:
 
Mike A. says:

Nice job by Wheeler.

 
Mike A. says:

Not for nothing, but the Yanks would have found a way to lose this game a couple of innings ago. They don’t seem to have the balls to handle a game like this.

 
Mike A. says:

OMG where’s the grit?

 
Ivan says:

Cano could of made that play.

 
Mike R. says:

That must have been a very tricky hop because Pedroia is the greatest defensive 2nd baseman since Alomar. And I am sure that Robbie is estatic to be mentioned in the same breath as Dusty.

 
Mike R. says:

What part of Boston exactly did that 3B umpire grow up? How much money do you think he owes Sully?

Lanny says:
Mike A. says:

It sure looked like it.

 
Mike R. says:

I saw the white smear after third base. It seemed clear from the comfort of my sofa.

Lanny says:

That was the Fox mandate.

Don’t have Philly-TB series at any cost.

Mike R. says:

Oh! He’s on Rupert’s payroll. Everything is clear now.

 
 
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Oh shit, they won’t let All-Star Catcher Jason Varitek catch Papelbon.

 
Lanny says:

TB. The best running team in the game has 1 steal in 2 games?

Masterson isnt exactly Pettitte-esque holding runners and Iwamura doesn’t try for it? It’s the 9th here, Joe Maddon.

 
dkidd says:

bringing your closer into a tie game on the road. in florida.

joe torre, please take note.

Mike A. says:

Fun fact: the state of Florida has never lost a postseason series.

dkidd says:

f-ing jeff weaver…

Lanny says:

I blame Wells for that series.

He’s healthy and they win in a jog.

 
 
 
 
Bill N says:

Lets hope Anus Face blows this

 
Ivan says:
 
Bill N says:

got a bad feeling about this inning

 
Lanny says:

They go to Price here? TB is going to have some staff next yr.

Mike A. says:

I would, but it looks like Jackson. This will either be very good, or very very bad.

Mike A. says:

Oh good God, it’s still Wheeler.

 
 
 
Ivan says:
 
dkidd says:

harold reynolds just sexually harassed cal ripken

Bill N says:
 
 
Lanny says:

Question:

Where is the talk about making Price the closer or 8th inning guy???

He’s big and has great stuff.

Nothing??

 
dkidd says:
Mike A. says:

Price just pitched yesterday. I can understand not wanting to use him on back-to-back days since he’s so young and so important to their future, but come on man, it’s the ALCS!!!

 
 
Ivan says:

Kinda tells ya what they think off Edwin Jackson no?

 
 
Lanny says:

Now here is the guy who has given me nightmares since 2003.

My one wish the past decade was that George would have been more forceful in signing the guy he wanted. Papi.

 
Mike A. says:

Routine fly ball power for Papi.

 
Ivan says:
Mike A. says:

I can’t remember the last time I saw him drive a ball with any authority.

Bill N says:
 
Lanny says:

That wrist has zapped any power he has.

If I told you 5 months ago that ortiz would be a shell of himself and an easy out and Manny was traded and Beckett was hurt would you have picked Boston???

 
 
Mike R. says:

That’s what happens when you lose the power of Man Ram behind you.

 
 
Ivan says:

End this game Longoria.

Ivan says:
 
 
Lanny says:
 
Mike A. says:

Carl Crawford walk-off inside-the-park homer.