ALCS Game 4: Rays @ BoSox

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Things aren’t looking so great for Bahston, and the Red Sox propaganda machine is already pumping out the excuses (sorry, subscription req’d). Their problems start right here: Jacoby Ellsbury, David Ortiz, All-Star Catcher Jason Varitek & Jed Lowrie are a combined … wait for it … wait for it … 0 for 40 in the series. Oh for forty. O 4 4T. That’s not gonna get it done.

The Rays, on the other hand, are cruisin’. They’ve put up 18 runs in the past two games, mashin’ seven homers in the process and powering past Lester The Invincible. Tim Wakefield draws the task of trying to stop them, but he had a 5.87 ERA in 3 starts against Tampa this year, and his postseason track record isn’t encouraging: 6.36 ERA in a not small sampling of 69.1 IP. Joe Maddon wants to sweep the leg tonight, adding Fernando Perez’s speed to the lineup against the knuckleballer.

First pitch is set for 8:07, you can catch the game on TBS. If you just can’t get enough Frank Caliendo, check this out.

Tampa Bay
1. Akinori Iwamura, 2B
2. BJ Upton, CF
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. Evan Longoria, 3B
5. Carl Crawford, LF
6. Willy Aybar, DH
7. Dioner Navarro, C
8. Fernando Perez, RF
9. Jason Bartlett, SS
– Andy Sonnanstine, P (13-9, 4.38)

Boston
1. JD Drew, RF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
5. Jason Bay, LF
6. Mark Kotsay, 1B
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Kevin Cash, C
9. Jed Lowrie, SS
– Tim Wakefield, P (10-11, 4.13)

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  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    I can’t wait to see Frank Caliendo do two hours of his TBS commercials at Carnegie Hall next month. I guess the man does work outside of October.

  • Steve

    How good would this Rays team be right now if the never gave up on Josh Hamilton?

    • A.D.

      well theyd be 50K poorer, but yeah, crazy

  • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    What? No All-Star Catcher or Alex Cora Wins Games? Come on!1!!11!onehundredeleven!!

  • Steve

    Kim Jones-Gorgeous, oddly hot or a Bull Mastiff impersonating a circus clown?

    I’ll go with ‘oddly hot’ myself, but I’m easy.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Is there a 4th choice? She’s somewhere between “oddly hot” and “a Bull Mastiff impersonating a circus clown” on her good days.

      • Steve

        Sure, why not. Feel free to add whatever category you think would be accurate.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

          Drunkable? (as in, when you’re drunk, she’s fuckable, and she’s not ugly enough for you to be overly embarrassed about it later?)

  • E-ROC

    The RedSox improved their lineup with the addition of Kevin Cash.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      But Cash doesn’t have the power of Caught Four No-Hitters working for him.

  • Pedro

    Man, great start.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    I guess that one didn’t knuckle.

  • Steve

    Wow, that was fast.

  • E-ROC

    I thought trading Manny was suppose to make the RedSox better.

    • Steve H

      The only people who believed that were the morons in red sox nation (and I include ESPN in that )

    • RollingWave

      to be fair, Manny can’t help Varitek hit or Wakefield pitch.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Hah!!!

  • Steve

    Geez.

    This is beautiful.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    I come back home and the Rays are up 3-0. Ha!

    • Steve

      “Ha!”

      A-Rod? Is that YOU?!?

  • Ivan

    Yes Rays, beat the shit out of wakefield.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Only a double? Crawford sucks.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Masterson? He hasn’t thrown more than 2 innings in like, 4 months.

  • Pedro

    Can Crawford steal home? :D

  • Steve

    I must admit, the small moans bleeding into dead silence as those balls left Fenway gave me a boner.

    Delicious.

  • Mike Pop

    Lol Wow the best bargain in baseball Wake !!!!

  • Ivan

    I just notice they bench Ellsbury. How the hell you bench the best CFer in baseball. Ellsbury is a superstar player no.

    • Mike Pop

      Id sure as hell take him over Ichiro or Sizemore if thats what ya mean

      • Steve

        Mike, there are some men wearing white coats who will be knocking on your door in a few minutes. Just do whatever they tell you, they are here to help you. Dont try to resist, it will just make things more difficult.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Let’s see how Sonnanstine’s throwing now.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    I’m watching House.

    What’s happening?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Walk, homer, homer, double. 3-0 Rays in the 1st.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        muchas gracias!

  • Mike Pop

    Longoria and Upton have been real impressive man but they arent gonna beat the Phillies

    • Ivan

      Why you think that?

      I’ll be hard press to believe that a NL team could compete with the AL best.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      No way. If the Rays make the WS, they’ll annihilate whoever they play. The wars in Fenway and Yankee Stadium that these kids have been through over the years is going to make a WS game in a NL park feel like batting practice.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        this too

      • Mike Pop

        Best teams dont always win it.. I just feel like the Phillies will win and I beleive they will

        • Ivan

          With the exception of the cardnals in 06, Since 04, the AL has swept the NL.

      • Steve

        They have more pitching than the Phils, and that usually decides these things.

      • Ivan

        Put it this way, the Phils might lose to the Blue Jays in a 7 game set and their only the 4 best team in their own division.

        • Mike Pop

          Detroit had much better pitching than the Cards couple years back but didnt mean they won it.. I just think the Phils are gonna win

          • Mike Pop

            All the Cards had was Carpenter, he was the only pitcher who would scare me, Suppan pitched great but anyone can pitch great anytime

            • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

              Sure, anything can happen, but you can’t really use that as a crutch for your argument.

              • Mike Pop

                Both teams are hot, Im not making an argument I just think the Phillies are gonna win and I want them too. They are both very good teams and both have alot of talent.

              • Ivan

                Word. Hey Jamal has a chance to have sex with Beyonce or Alba, but that’s not gonna happen most likey.

                • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

                  Ha, you just wait till I get accepted into UCLA and I’m auditioning for various acting gigs, I’ll get my wish…

                  Oh, and it’s Alicia Keys, Kate Hudson or Jessica Alba. I never really got it for Beyonce.

                • Ivan

                  Key word: Wish.

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

                  I’ve seen Alicia Keys in person and up close. She’s not that pretty. You’re seeing like 10 pounds of expensive, professional makeup there, not her.

          • Ivan

            Yea but that was more of a implosion of Detroit making silly errors especially the pitchers and making bone head plays.

            Tigers really were the better team and just gave it away.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      I think the Rays’ pitching is much better than the Phillies.

      • A.D.

        If those 2 teams make it starting pitching could be fairly even, if you get the good Myers & Blanton, but its also how Garza & Kazmir pitch….especially since Garza has to be at a real high innings total for him.

        Pen goes to the Phillies

        • Mike Pop

          shit man anything can happen ya know.. Tampa or Philly could die after their great runs like Colorado did last year, sure Tampa has the better team but im saying what everyone knows anything can happen and the best team doesnt always win, shit if they did the Yanks would have 65 70 championships ?

  • Ivan

    And to think this team is considered by people a Dynasty that rivals the yanks in the 90’s.

  • Mike Pop

    whats happening with David mr clutch Ortiz ?

    • Steve

      Bad wrist, no Manny or the steroid/stimulant ban. Pick one or all of the above.

      • Steve H

        I would say the 2nd and 3rd are the most important. He said the other day the wrist was fine, and he likes to use injuries as an excuse. If he had a hangnail we’d know about it, so if he says he’s fine, he’s 100%

  • UpStateYank

    Craig Saager is such a clown…

  • A.D.

    Loved the Red Sox Propaganda Machine is already making excuses

    pure gold

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      Red Sox Propaganda Network = RSPN
      Entertainment and Sports Programming Network = ESPN

      E and R = right next to eachother on the keyboard

      WE’RE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS HERE, PEOPLE!!!!!

  • Mike Pop

    The media will say the Mike Lowell–less Red Sox woulda won if they had a healthy Mike Lowell, but what can ya do

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    I hope Joe Maddon talked to the Rays after their AB in the third inning, that was real weak.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Bah, just eat that one up Evan.

  • Mike Pop

    Thats my Coco

  • A.D.

    Nice DP

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Fortuitious double plays are awesome.

    And no, I can’t spell.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    A black man struggling in Boston as a Red Sox? He better watch his back when he’s in the parking lot.

    • Steve

      Ken Rosenthal says hello.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Coco taking a page out of the Jeter playbook.

    • Ivan

      That’s the only way he can ever be Derek Jeter.

  • Ivan

    You know what the Sox need? More gritty players….oh wait.

    • A.D.

      I dunno if Coco is gritty, more an all around dissapointment

      • Steve

        Yes but its gutty, gritty disappointment.

  • pat

    roy williams to the cowboys that should make things interesting.

    • Mike Pop

      with an extension for 5 years !!!!!!!!

    • Ivan

      Wow, that’s a big deal. I,ve always been a big Roy Williams fan. That dude can flat out ball.

      • A.D.

        Williams, Owens, Witten…. Romo will have a field day

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

          Except Romo’s gotta wait a month.

    • Ivan

      But you know what, I can see TO being ticked not getting the ball and majority of the plays goes to Williams for the big passing plays.

    • E-ROC

      Ah, just more of the same with some better scoring. The Cowboys defense is overrated and it has showed this season.

      • Ivan

        They have made a clear desicion to just flat out, out score the shit out of the competition.

      • Mike Pop

        Cowboys D is without Newman which can hurt them, Dallas D can be playoff caliber as with a healthy Romo they have best offense in NFL

        • E-ROC

          Dallas’s D will improve when Newman returns, but they seem to fold when the opposition isn’t intimidated by the names on the other side of the football. When the opposition competes, they fold. I will be the first to say that Mike Jenkins will be a great corner in the NFL. I’ve always like him in college.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Can you really complain about patience at the plate when you are facing a Knuckleball pitcher?

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Heh, you old fuck.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    I hope Crawford moonwalks to third now.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Eat it.

  • Pedro

    This is great.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Batting practice.

  • Steve

    WOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

    5-0 BABY!!!

  • Mike Pop

    wow 2 switch hitters both batting right handed

  • Ivan

    There not dead but the Sox are in critical condition.

    • A.D.

      they’ve come back from worse before…lets not relive

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Failure.

  • E-ROC

    I kinda feel bad for Wakefield. He is the only tolerable and cool person on the RedSox team.

    • A.D.

      Ehh his contract is too team favorable, doesn’t sit right

  • Pedro

    Poor Timmy …. not!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    While this is sort of a moot point now that Timmy’s out of the game, I’d just like to say that I’m glad Tampa is stealing off of Wakefield. Joe Torre should take a lesson, hop back in time to 2004 and have the Yanks steal in Game 5. Yes, I’m still bitter.

    • A.D.

      if the player has any speed no reason not to send them against Wake

    • Steve

      . . . . as we all are. Torre was reading his own press clippings, he didn’t want to have to resort to stuff like that. He was above that sort of thing. You know, things like stealing on Wakefield, dropping a bunt in front of Curt Shilling and his bloody sock, defending your teammates when a pitcher send two of them to a hospital, stuff like that.

      He wanted to lose the Yankee way.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    I almost feel bad for Wakefield.

    Almost.

    • Steve

      Think back to 2004. That should cure that bad feeling.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Masterson’s getting the Ohlendorf treatment – miscast as a long reliever.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      I thought Masterson was supposed to be an amazing starter like the second coming or something?

    • A.D.

      that and Byrd was used last game

    • Steve

      Only trouble with Ohlendorf is he was miscast as a starter as well.

    • Stephen

      Keith Law has said that he thinks Masterson is better in the bullpen than the starting rotation, basing it on his delivery and his repertoire.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Brian McCann or Geovany Soto?

    • Mike Pop

      Soto for me hes a stud

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      McCann. Younger, better hitter, better defender.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      Soto.

    • Ivan

      McCann, better potential with the bat and younger.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Soto: .285-.364-.504, 60 XBH
      McCann: .301-.373-.523, 66 XBH

      And McCann had far inferior hitters around him in the lineup.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      Yeah, I’m with Mike and Ivan. The only other Catchers I would take over McCann – at this point – is Joe Mauer and Matt Wieters.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Joe Mauer is like, the God of Catching right now. He’s by far the best player at the position these days.

      • Mike Pop

        Is Wieterrs gonna be better than Mauer ?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Could be. He won’t hit for avg as much, but he’ll hit for more power.

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

          Yes.

        • Mike Pop

          Montero or Wieters ? lol joke

      • Accent Shallow

        I am absolutely terrified of Matt Wieters.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Kevin Cash? Really?

  • Mike Pop

    Damn Kevin Cash ? lol

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    OK, here’s a tough one:

    Daniel Bard or the field?

    • Accent Shallow

      What do you mean by “the field”? All other pitchers in his draft class? Hafta go with “field” there.

    • Ivan

      Very tough, I will go with the field.

  • Ivan

    How about

    Cain or Kazmir?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That’s tough. I’ll say Kaz. He led the league in K’s last year, without getting gimme K’s from the pitcher batting. That tells you a lot about the stuff he has.

    • Mike Pop

      oooo idk both filthy Kazmir for me but they both have great potential, Kazmire strikes more out rihgt ?

    • A.D.

      Kaz, Lefty, done it in the AL east

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        This.

  • A.D.

    Weird Axe ad

  • Ivan

    One more:

    Weathers or Melancon?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Weathers just blew out his elbow in the AzFL. Melancon by default.

      • A.D.

        ouch

      • Ivan

        I,ve heard he left with an injury but I just now heard from you that he need TJS.

        Nevertheless both at full strength, I’ll go Melancon. Better breaking ball, better command, and more movement on the fastball.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Well, it’s not official that he needs TJ, but it looks likely. He left the mound holding his elbow and in obvious pain.

      • Steve

        Everyone talks about Gagne not being the same lately (assuming he was on steroids) and they seem to forget that he had TJ surgery, missed a year in 2006 and hasn’t been the same since then. He also had a bad elbow for about a year before that.

        • Steve H

          He was very good for the Rangers last year before the trade. And yes, he was on steroids also.

    • Steve

      David Weathers?

      • Mike Pop

        I believe its Casey Weathers on rhe rockies

      • Ivan

        Casey Weathers, closer from Vandy drafted last year.

        • Steve

          Gotcha.

    • Mike Pop

      Melancon baby ! gotta go with Yankee pride

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Who do you think has the bigger gap between them and the second best player at their respective positions, Joe Mauer or Alex Rodriguez?

    Who is the second best player at those two positions? Is it still Jorge Posada and Chipper Jones? Or is it Matt Wieters and Evan Longoria?

    P.S. I know some will raise an eyebrow with the fact that I’m putting so much stock into Wieters, seeing as how he didn’t garner a single Plate Appearance above Double-A Bowie, but come on, the dude’s a beast.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Probably between Mauer and the #2 catcher (I say McCann). Wright and Longoria aren’t that far behind A-Rod. Mauer’s head and shoulders above everyone at his position.

      • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        I wouldn’t say that. Certainly Mauer > McCann, but it’s not that big of a lead. Mauer is a good defender while McCann is below average, but offensively McCann is better and more important to his team than Mauer. Without Mauer the Twins have the better hitter in Morneau, as well as Delmon Young (2nd half), Denard Span (fluke? I know, I know…), and the underrated Jason Kubel. Without McCann the Braves have Chipper Jones and Casey Kotchman.

    • Mike Pop

      It would have to be McCann and either Evan or David Wright right ? hehe…and there has to be a bigger gap at the 3rd base position cuz A-rod is the best and you would take him over anyone in a heartbeat, while with MAuer and /McCann your happy with either right ? I know MAuer is better but McCann is up there

    • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      I’d say they’re equal, but the lead isn’t that big.. In three years Longoria will be as good if not better than A-Rod (in three years). The gap is a little snug with Mauer and McCann and R-Mart.

      And also can we chill about Wieters for a sec as well. Dude hasn’t even hit AAA yet. I’d go with McCann and Longoria for 2nd.

      • Ivan

        Agreed of what ya said.

        As for Wieters, the dude is just amazing. Sure he hasn’t hit above AAA, but really the guy might be the most physically gifted catcher right now.

        • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

          Exactly. I’m all for preaching patience with prospects, but when it comes to guys like Justin Upton, Matt Wieters or Michael Bowden; they are exceptions to the rule.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Justin Upton, Matt Wieters or Michael Bowden

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZIvgQ9ik48

          • Accent Shallow

            Michael Bowden? Really?
            I’m sitting here singing “One of these things is not like the others . . .”

            • Accent Shallow

              And Mike beat me to it. I owe you a Coke. Or a beer.

            • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

              Yeah, NoMass inspired me with that one. They were railing on Peter Gammons for some article he wrote. It was about baseball using its young superstars to overcome the dark cloud of the Steroid Era. He included Jacoby Ellsbury in those lists of names.

    • A.D.

      McCann & Aramis Ramirez though with upside its prob Longoria are the next 2 in my mind… I’d take McCann & Arod over Ramirez & Mauer

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        Aramis Ramirez? Nah, I’d take David Wright as the third best Third Basemen.

        • A.D.

          I forgot about Wright when I saw that, I was thinking that Ramirez put up similar OPS numbers as Longoria… I would say, not counting upside, it would be A-Rod, Wright, Longoria, Aramis… and I’d still take McCann & A-Rod over Wright & Mauer…but I can see why people would pick the other way

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Heh, this from a poster at SoSH after the Coco Crisp GIDP:

    Tek can’t hit the ball hard enough to hit in to a DP. Point Tek.

    • A.D.

      Nice, silver lining

  • Ivan

    Hey I got a football question: Which QB would y’all guys take?

    Eli or Big Ben?

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      For a long time I would’ve taken Eli Manning (partly because I’m a homer; partly because I think Big Ben was overrated prior to his 2007 season), but after last year, I’d go Roethlisberger. His mobility within the pocket is still a nice dimension.

    • A.D.

      big ben…especially if I could get him to stop taking big hits

    • Ivan

      To me their equal, but I might go Big Ben.

  • Steve

    I wonder what the total playoff experience on the Ray’s roster is.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      Cliff Floyd, Dan Wheeler and Chad Bradford, right? Anybody else I’m missing?

      • A.D.

        Hinske

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I only looked at the active roster, but yeah, he’s been there. Percival too.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Grant Balfour: 2.2 IP
      Chad Bradford: 18.1 IP
      Trever Miller: 1.1 IP
      Dan Wheeler: 18 IP

      Jason Bartlett: 11 AB
      Cliff Floyd: 19 AB

      Total: 40.33 IP & 30 AB

      That’s coming into this year.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    I’m only 19-years-old, (so I don’t have a clue) but has there ever been a period in Major League Baseball history where two of its most prolific hitters have been in their prime at the exact same time? If there has been, when do you think was the most recent period?

    Oh, I’m talking about Alex Rodriguez and Albert Pujols.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Barry and Junior in the mid-90’s were better.

      • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        word.

      • Ivan

        I think Pujols was a better pure hitter than Junior.

        Barry and Pujols is sorta a draw.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I can see that. If we’re talking all-around game, not just hitting ability, then it’s not even close.

          Barry + Junior >>> A-Rod + Pujols

      • Ivan

        And I think A-Rod was better than Griffey.

        • RollingWave

          but only two guys in the history of the game should even be meantioned in the same sentence as Bonds. Ruth and William

    • UWS

      Ted Williams and Joe D.?

      I have no idea.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      When you think about it, we are probably witnessing two of the greatest hitters in MLB history in their primes. When it all comes down to it, we may be looking at two of the top three leaders in MLB’s career Home Run list. Fucking aye.

      • AndrewYF

        What’s missing is the pitching.

        In the 90’s you had Maddux, Pedro, Clemens, Johnson all in their primes. And you could make an argument that all four are in the top ten pitchers of all time. That’s simply mind-boggling.

        This decade has nothing on last decade.

        • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

          Well, with you acknowledging that era contained some all-time hurlers, don’t you think the point of your statement is more of a polish on that era than it is a knock on this era? You can’t really blame this era for not witnessing pitchers like Pedro Martinez and Roger Clemens, those are once-in-a-couple-lifetimes type pitchers.

          Also, Roy Halladay, Johan Santana and Mariano Rivera are plenty to witness.

          • RollingWave

            Rivera is more like last era too though , and halladay / Santana really would be doing well if they even match up with last era’s second tier awsomeness pitchers , Moose / Schilling / Smoltz / Brown etc…

  • Ivan

    You know, I really can’t wait for the basketball season.

    I really can’t wait to see Gallinari, Mayo and Oden.

    And of course Kobe and LeBron and Wade.

    • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      Gallinari will prob. stink it up this season b/c of back issues. I look forward to his 09-10

      • Ivan

        true. Knowing NY fans he’ll be considered a bust after the season.

        • UWS

          “after the season”? I’ll bet he’ll be considered a bust 10 games into the season.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

            Considering that scouts said that defensively he was like Dirk Nowitzki with LESS lateral movement, I started calling him a bust literally three seconds after we drafted him.

            I haven’t been this disgusted with one of my teams first round picks since my Jets took Chad Pennington and Anthony Becht.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Man, the Rays catch everything.

  • E-ROC

    Seems like a routine fly ball to me. Why is Caray getting excited? “Look at him glide!”

  • Ivan

    since Mike brought it up,

    Bonds or Griffey?

    To me Bonds, better pure hitter, hit in a much harder park (Candle-stick compare to the king dome) and and to me was the best lefty hitter since Williams or even Musial.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      But most of Bonds’s most impressive seasons didn’t come in Candlestick, they came in PacBell/SBC, a park they tailormade for his lefty swing.

      Bonds at his peak was better, of course, but Griffey pre-injury was damn, damn close and he was clean (we think). Before Griffey got injured, he was ARod, i.e. unquestionably on the path to being the best ever.

      Also, Griffey defensively >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bonds.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Someone tell Manny Delcarmen that no matter how hard he throws, straight Fastballs get smacked.

    • Steve

      Kyle Farnsworth says hello.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Chip Caray is a bit of a douche, but his change of tones are quite entertaining.

    • Steve

      Any guy in his 40’s who still goes by the name of “Chip” is either a douche or a turd.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Boy, do they miss Manny or what? Bay’s a nice player, but Manny changes everything.

    • UWS

      No no no, you don’t understand. Without Manny they’ll lose, but they’ll lose the right way.

      Yay, Longoria!

      • Steve

        They really had no choice. Manny quit on the team, which for me is the worst thing you can ever say about an athlete. Manny’s a great hitter, but a total jerk.

        • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

          He played in twenty-two of the twenty-four July games. How did he quit on them? He raked in July to the tune of a .347/.473/.587 vital line. He didn’t quit, he just publicly bitched.

        • Steve H

          In July, when Ramirez was supposedly “refusing to play,” the Red Sox played 24 games. Ramirez played in 22 of them. This was tied for fourth on the team with J.D. Drew and Jacoby Ellsbury. He was sixth on the team in plate appearances (AB+BB) in July. Not quite Lou Gehrig’s numbers, but he helped out a bit more than David Ortiz (six games), and was in the lineup somewhat more often than peers such as Moises Alou (one game). Oh, he didn’t get three days off in the middle of the month-Ramirez played in the All-Star Game.

          When he played, Ramirez killed the league. He hit .347/.473/.587 in July. His OBP led the team, and his SLG led all Red Sox with at least 25 AB. The Sox, somewhat famously, went 11-13 in July. Lots of people want you to believe that was because Manny Ramirez is a bad guy. I’ll throw out the wildly implausible idea that the Sox went 11-13 because Ortiz played in six games and because veterans Mike Lowell and Jason Varitek has sub-600 OPSs for the month.

          From Joe Sheehan. If that is quitting on their team, please give me a ton of those players.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      As much as I would hate the endless stories that would be written if Joe Torre were to win the World Series, I would love to see Manny Ramirez hit four walk-off shots and lead the Dodgers to a title.

  • Steve

    Tough to be gutty and gritty when you cant pitch.

  • Ivan

    You don’t think that Fox are mad that the Phillies are one win away from the WS and the same could be said for TB.

  • Steve

    Ooof.

  • Ivan

    Hey Mike, with Jesus Montero, you think he can be Manny Ramirez or at least Miguel Cabrera with the bat?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That’s hard, you can’t put that kind of comp on any kid. If he’s 75% of those guys, he’ll be a star.

      • Ivan

        I understand that.

        Didn’t you say that Heyward was Frank Thomas at RF.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Yes, I did. I was exaggerating a bit, he’s that kind of hitter. Will he be as good as the Big Hurt? Doubt it.

      • Steve

        Especially at his position, assuming he stays there.

  • Ivan

    This game is gettin Ugly like Kevin Youkilis.

  • Mike Pop

    This is one of the best games I have ever seen =)

  • Steve

    I never thought I’d get bored watching the Sox get their ass kicked, but its happened.

    • Ivan

      Not for me it isn’t.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    I’m enjoying this oh so much.

  • UWS

    Oy vey. I almost feel bad for the Sox.

    Almost.

  • Mike Pop

    this aint a game its a massacre

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    The Rays are out-hitting them, out-pitching them, out-defending them, out-baserunning them … you name it, they’re beating them that way.

    • Kevin

      What about out-gritting them?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        That too.

  • Steve

    Can you get WEEI online?

    I want to hear those fans blame everyone from Theo to Mayor Menino. That will be hilarious.

  • Ivan

    I hope the yanks watch this game and learn a thing or two, like the value of defense, young pitching and having athletes on your team.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    You know what’s amusing. Every pro-Red Sox media member you see always say the Red Sox are better for not being their 2004 incarnations. Now, you will see article after article saying how they need to get back to that 2004 form.

  • Baseballnation

    You look at the previous couple of years and it always seems the Rays have given the sawx a punch in the mouth or two and this year has been nothing different. The Rays are the new red sox daddy!

  • E-ROC

    If only Ellsbury was playing….

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      And All-Star Catcher Jason Varitek.

  • Ivan

    I should expect this, but it’s gonna be annoying hearing how the sox came back from 3-0, and coming back against CLE, and coming back against Oakland in 03 and etc. Your gonna hear that over, and over and over, til it reaches a billion.

  • E-ROC

    Stephen King is alive?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      And making anti-Yankee commercials for ESPN.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyNvtRGNNeQ

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        Eh, I dislike Ben Affleck more.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    I wonder if we’ll get to see Alex Cora pitch an inning or two.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Cole Hamles throws 95-MPH?

    • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      deff. not

    • Ivan

      Top 95. Hey it wasn’t as bad as McCarver saying that Madson had the best change up on the Phillies.

  • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    Is it me or does Chip Caray sound like Joe Buck (in voice)?

  • kgSturnz0r17

    rays are the new sox, just like teh Giants are the new Pats

  • flamingoo

    I love how Chip has, both last night and tonight talked of the Fenway “Faithful” while they stream out of the stadium. Faithful, eh..? Hmm…

  • E-ROC
  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Blast. I was hoping Ortiz would go 0 or ALCS.

    • Accent Shallow

      Still, you have to love fat dudes hitting triples.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Oh, anybody going to check out 2K Sports’ MLB Front Office Manager? I’ve always wanted to play GM in a baseball game.

    http://www.2ksports.com/news/2ksports/246

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I’ll probably try it out. If it’s anything like NFL Head Coach though, I’ll get bored of it quick.

      If the arbitration and service time rules aren’t true to life, the game is worthless.

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        I think that’s one of the things they highlighted that are true. That and the allocation of scouting funds are supposed to be some of the very nice intricate details.

        • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

          the things that 2k8 does with franchise mode that I hope improves are the following:
          -too many people throw knucklers, and also throw 100
          -everyone bats R and throws L–sketchy
          -no one has any speed
          -the team league leader in ERA is 5.00

          • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

            Man, The Show is the way to go since EA Sports lost the licensing rights to produce the MVP series.

            • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

              in that sense too bad that I got a 360…

            • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

              btw that MVP series was the SHIT! I loved that!

    • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      Word man. This makes 2k9 next to useless for me.

      • pat

        i had 2k8 and immediately lost interst when the computer offered me jose reyes for mike mussina and ross ohlendorf. Most of the contracts are wrong the “minor league” part of the game was awful, ug just a terrible game in general

  • Ivan

    Boss Man JR. in da mothafuckin house bitches.

  • JeffG

    Look at the Boston faithful piling out of there… nice one.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Mentioning Mike Timlin in the same breath as Mariano Rivera is the same thing as saying Lucifer was once in Heaven at the same time as God was.

  • Mike Pop

    Yo how many Hrs does A jax project to hit a year in the Majors ? like 15 maybe

    • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      I’d say 20 on his average years, 30 in his career year

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        Are we talking a perennial 50-XBH guy?

        • Mike Pop

          Im asking you

        • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

          I’d go a 55-60.

      • RollingWave

        someohw I feel he’s average probably won’t go that high, espically given the context of the games in recent years.

  • Ivan

    The Sox look Pathetic.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Oh my God, Mike Timlin is so fucking horrible. I mean for the love of God, he absolutely, positively blows massive chunks.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

    Sorry I’m late. This just in: The Red Sox suck balls.

    Sweet Caroline my ass. Can’t wait to see the Rays celebrating in Fenway tomorrow.

  • Mike Pop

    omg Red sox comeback

  • pat

    sox fans online are calling for francona to be fired, maybe he can come coach 3rd for us haha

  • Mike Pop

    cmon Trever stop the mighty sox

  • Ben C

    “That’s why you love a guy like Kevin Youkilis. He never gives up on an at-bat no matter what the score is.” You are an awful awful person TBS announcer.

    • UWS

      In my day, we used to call that a STAT PADDER!!!

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

        Kevin Youkilis = ARod

  • Mike Pop

    God those gritty sox never ever give up

  • Ben C

    my roommate who went to the red sox game just walked in the door (i go to BC)

    • giselle

      hahah nice…

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    And the Red Sox’s season will come down too … Daisuke Matsuzaka.

  • Lanny

    The Sox have been this down before and come back. They need a stake in their heart before we all call them dead.

    • Steve

      Those were a different group of guys. This team isn’t “The Idiots” anymore.

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