Oct
03

ALDS Game 2: If the Angels don’t win…

By Benjamin Kabak

The other night I decided upon the catch-22 of playoff baseball: I dislike the Red Sox. So I can’t root for them. As the night wore on, I couldn’t decide, however, which team I disliked more: Do I dislike the Angels because they can’t beat the Red Sox more than I dislike the Red Sox? In the end, probably not, but it sure would be nice for the Angels to win a game.

The last time the Angels defeated the Red Sox in the postseason was on October 11, 1986 when they took a 3-1 Championship Series lead. They’ve now lost a whopping 10 in a row in October to the Red Sox.

Red Sox Lineup
Ellsbury CF
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Youkilis 3B
Drew RF
Bay LF
Kotsay 1B
Varitek C
Cora SS

Matsuzaka P

Angels Lineup
Figgins 3B
Anderson LF
Teixeira 1B
Guerrero DH
Hunter CF
Rivera RF
Kendrick 2B
Mathis C
Aybar P

Santana P – It’s interesting to see the Angels turn to Santana at home. He was 5-5 with a 4.02 ERA in Anaheim and 11-2 with a 3.02 ERA on the road

First pitch is set for 9:37 p.m.

Posted on Friday, October 3rd, 2008 at 9:15 pm in Game Threads.

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Jamal G. says:

“Alex Cora wins games.”

- Steve Phillips

 
Ivan says:

I really hope that Dice-K gets lit up. Proving to people he’s a fraud and he was basically lucky this season. That probably won’t happen considering the Angels law is not let one pitch go by them.

Whitey14 says:

Pitchers who win 18 games with a 2.90 ERA, and lead the league in OBA certainly have some luck, but it can’t all be luck.

Whitey14 says:

I think to call him a fraud is a bit excessive

 
 
 
Ivan says:

Yo lets go Ervin Santana.

 
UWS says:

Santana was the one who shut us down in ‘05 after Colon had to take an early exit, right?

I’m having flashbacks.

Ivan says:
 
 
Ivan says:

Yea Ervin, make Pedroia your bitch.

 
 
Ivan says:

Geez Youkilis is fucking ugly, you can see his sweat running away from his face.

 
UWS says:

Dear Angels,

F*k you, you good for nothing collection of assclowns.

Love,
UWS

UWS says:

Like I was saying….

 
 
 
pat says:

you’ve got to be fucking kidding me

 
Steve says:

Manny?

WE DONT NEED NO STINKIN MANNY!!

 
Steve says:

Sox just own these tools. Good, I need to get some sleep.

Let me know how Brackman does, peeps.

 
Ivan says:

You know Ervin, your a fuckin bitch. Your a better pitcher now than when the yanks face ya 3 years ago, and you shut them down. Now you gonna shit ya pants in the fuckin first inning against the sox.

 
pat says:

odds angels go 1-2-3 in their half of the inning?

UWS says:
pat says:
 
 
 
Ivan says:
 
Ivan says:

A Angel hitter takes three pitches in a row.

 
Ivan says:

Vlad Guerrero hit a homer.

 
UWS says:

Torii hit a single.

Woot!

 
Ivan says:

I know that Hunter got a RBI on that but that was a ball in the dirt.

 
Ivan says:

Nice Job Rivera, swinging at the first pitch. It’s not like ya team is down 3 runs against a guy who will walk the ballpark.

UWS says:

Give it up, dude. I mean, Halos already have. Let’s just hope Rays make it to the next round, they are the only hope of stopping the Sox. Grr.

I thought Angels were supposed to be good fundamentally. That’s now two outs in a row that they failed to get. Just ugly.

Ivan says:

“I thought Angels were supposed to be good fundamentally”

you believe that? A team that hardley walks, take bad a-bats and make silly out on the basepaths. This is who they are.

UWS says:

But-but-but! That’s what ESPN tells me, so it must be true. Are you saying…I shouldn’t trust everything I see or read in the media?! It feels like my world is crumbling down around me…

 
pat says:

didnt they have the lowest runs scored:allowed ratio? or they outplayed their pythag the most

UWS says:

They did, by 12 games or so, I believe.

 
 
 
 
 
pat says:
 
1996 Yankee Alumni Society says:

The word “underrated” is tossed around too much (but Garret Anderson is the most underrated player in MLB for at least the last decade). Would have been great if he had been wearing pinstripes & batting 5th for the Yanks all that time.

 
 
Pete says:

So all that stands in the way of another stinkin’ Sawx championship is ….

TAMPA?!!!

TheLastClown says:

Tampa will beat Boston, if the Angels dont.

 
 
Ivan says:

Come on Angels, get some runs.

 
pat says:

giambi would have waved bye bye as that ball sped by him

 
Joe says:

Whatever happened to Gustavo Chacin? As random as that may sound there is a perfectly logical line of reasoning behind it.

pat says:
Joe says:

Well, Tim at MLBtraderumors did there annual team outlook and I it occured to me that I hadn’t heard this guy’s name in awhile. Plus, he looks really evil so you know how that goes. So are you going to answer my question or not?

 
Mike A. says:

To things happened to Chacin:

1. He sucks
2. He had major, major arm surgery, like torn labrum and torn rotator cuff kind of major

Joe says:

To things can’t happen, but two things can happen. Zing! Really, I though he was good, well I’ll take your word for it. What’s up with the laburms, now Paredes as well. So much for our third basemen. Mike, was Parades better than Suttle? Atleast they can now battle for who comes back from the torn labrum first.

 
 
 
 
 
TheLastClown says:

So the Dodgers get Manny, he hits two DS home runs. Ugly Boston gets Bay, he hits two even more impactful home runs. Did the Pirates get shafted? I don’t know anything about Andy LaRoche, but Craig Hansen didn’t look good, and the other two I don’t know anything about.

But it puzzles me

 
TheLastClown says:
 
pat says:

that was a filthy pitch

 
Pedro says:

Hitters should realize Matsuzaka almost always throws a 3-1, 2-0, 3-2 slider or cutter. He rarely throws a FB when in a hitter’s count.

 
UWS says:

Morales?? If you’re going to put Napoli in next inning anyway, why not just let him bat?

Sciosia is trying to outsmart himself?

 
E-ROC says:

I don’t think Scott Boras can be anymore visible in this series.

 
UWS says:

Jason Varitek is so great, he doesn’t even need a pitcher out on the mound. Varitek makes balls materialize and fly through the air all by himself, with his brainpower alone. True story.

For TBS, I’m Buck Martinez.

/tommiesmithjohncarlos

Mike A. says:

Jason Varitek is so gritty, that he coaxed no-hitters out of four young, Vietnamese immigrants before paying for their citizenship test. Heart of a champion.

For Fox, I’m Tim McCarver.

/tsjc

 
 
pat says:

this has to be some of the stupidest shit i have ever heard an announcer say

 
E-ROC says:

You know its going bad when Varitek gets a base hit on a check swing.

 
Mike Pop says:

Lol Boras is on the phone with Arod saying man if you listened to me and signed with the Angels you could be playing right now instead of sitting home on the couch eating cheetos watching this game… Arods like damn Scotty boy you were right

rafael says:

Yep, that’s exactly what’s happening.

 
 
Mike Pop says:

Arrerondo is nice man

 
greg says:

god fucking damn it

 
 
Mike A. says:

Man, the Angels are such bitches.

 
TheLastClown says:
 
UWS says:

My prediction for this inning:

Single, single, walk, infield pop-up, GIDP.

TheLastClown says:

Positivity…with a capital P

UWS says:

Hmm. Torii throwing a wrench into my plan by swinging at the first…fucking…pitch. Argh.

UWS says:

And there’s the walk!

 
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Alright baby, time to prove the best record in the regular season wasn’t a fluke.

 
UWS says:

Mike, where’s that list of GM candidates you promised us? Of who you thought should replace Cash if he had decided to leave?

Mike A. says:

The top two choices were Tony Lacava (Jays’ assistant GM) and Logan White (Dodgers’ assistant GM). I was debating between those two, and I would have chosen one to be the official GM candidate of RAB. I probably would have gone White, because he’s got the same qualifications as LaCava, but he’s done the big market thing.

The other candidates I considered were (in nor particular order):

Jason McLeod (BoSox’s scouting director)
Dan Jennings (Marlins’ assistant GM)
Peter Woodfork (D-Backs’ assistant GM)
Mike Rizzo (Nats’ assistant GM)

And off course Oppenheimer as well.

UWS says:

Interesting, thanks!

Good thing you guys never had to publish it, eh?

Mike A. says:

Yeah seriously. Cash was absolutely the guy I wanted in charge.

 
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

First pitch Torii? Really?

 
E-ROC says:

Just missed that pitch.

 
TheLastClown says:

At least scratch out one more

 
UWS says:

Friggin’ Rivera trying to kill our future first baseman. Punk.

 
pat says:

OH THE WEBBINGGG!G!G!G!

 
TheLastClown says:

Time for the choke collar to come off Howie

TheLastClown says:
 
 
E-ROC says:

Make the pitcher throw strikes, people!!!

 
E-ROC says:
 
UWS says:

Jesus Christ, Howie.

 
UWS says:

Wait, Varitek can’t leadership pitchers into throwing strikes? I’m shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you!

 
E-ROC says:

Take’em how ever you can get’em.

 
TheLastClown says:
 
TheLastClown says:

This is one of the more painful games I’ve ever watched

Ivan says:

Can you imagine if the yanks had a-bats like this. I would of had a heart attack already.

UWS says:

Tell me about it. This game is not doing wonders for my blood pressure and I don’t really even have a horse in this race!

 
TheLastClown says:

They did, quite a few times this season

UWS says:

Yeah, but I think he means if it was the Yanks in the postseason having ABs like that.

 
 
 
 
 
UWS says:

So it has been written, so it has been said: the Angel do suck. Verily.

 
Ivan says:

Howie Kendrick has had some of the worst a-bats I,ve seen in quite some time. My Goodness was that last a-bat. He makes Cano look like Giambi.

 
pat says:

MARK WATCH OUT FOR THAT BAT!!!!!!

 
UWS says:

Why does Martize keep calling Ortiz ORtiz?

UWS says:
 
 
YankCrank20 says:

here comes the future Met

 
Ivan says:

Mr. overrated #57 is on the mound.

 
TheLastClown says:

Nice play. Aybar’s been all over the place tonight

 
Ivan says:

Don’t get mad Pedroia, toughen up bitch.

 
UWS says:

Take it easy, Frankie. It’s not like you just struck out Barry Bonds to end the WS or something.

YankCrank20 says:

Exactly. K-Rod and Papelbitch are always far more demonstrative on the mound than Joba and he got so much shit. Always pissed me off

dan says:

That’s because joba was throwing a party in the 7th inning, closing nothing. Doing complete pirouettes while letting out primal screams.

Honestly, Angel/Yankee/Boston fans should all shut up about pitchers celebrating. They all do it.

Whitey14 says:
 
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

RUN FIGGINS RUN!!!!!!!

 
TheLastClown says:

Well its about bloody time!

 
Ivan says:

Finally, Figgins shows up to get the first extra base hit for the Angels.

 
YankCrank20 says:

JD Drew did his best Abreu impression at the wall

 
Bill N says:

they have to get this run in

 
TheLastClown says:

Here comes Papelbon?
or Timlin?

 
pat says:

if this were the yankees, on 3rd chone would stay

Mike A. says:

No kidding.

All I ask is for a groundball to the right side. That’s not too much to ask with Anderson-Tex-Vlad-Torii due up, is it?

pat says:

i beleive tex prefers the fundamentally sound homerun to right

 
 
UWS says:
 
 
Ivan says:

Okay bring Papelbon really makes little sense here in a situation like this.

 
YankCrank20 says:

I hope Tex drops a bomb on Paps ass

 
pat says:

this makes me so happy theyre bringing paps in

 
UWS says:

Does Papelbon have any 2 inning saves this year?

 
Bill N says:

btw, i don’t know who mentioned it the other day but…….
I actually had a red sox fan tell me that Veriblow was a HOF…. i laughed right in his face and said can i please have whatever it is you are on.

Mike A. says:

I had someone tell me Ortiz was a HOFer, and that was like, 3 years ago.

Bill N says:

the best was his reason that he caught 4 no hitters.
I couldn’t believe it. I know most sox fans aren’t that bright but comeon

 
 
 
Ivan says:

Great, great, great fucking job Angerson.

pat says:

hes the most underrated player in the history of baseball

 
 
Mike A. says:

Every time an Angel swings at the first pitch, he should be tasered on the spot.

 
Ivan says:

Would it be smart to IBB Tex to get to Guerrero?

Mike A. says:

I probably would have. But then you’re running the risk of a Vladdy 3-R homer, which is more likely than a GIDP.

 
 
UWS says:
 
YankCrank20 says:

Of course Tex gets it done. Love him

 
Mike A. says:

Tex is the only Angel that decided to show up this series. Give that man a contract.

Ivan says:

Why you think I compare him to Beltran.

 
UWS says:

Some might say he’s only trying hard because he wants a big payday.

Not me, but some might.

 
 
TheLastClown says:

Fundamentally sound Tex, fundamentally sound

 
Ivan says:

I knew Tex would do the job. I trust him, after all he’s the only person in that lineup with some plate disipline.

 
Mike A. says:

Will Cardiac K-Rod hold ‘em down for an inning? Stay tuned…

TheLastClown says:

Good name for him, instantly applicable

UWS says:

I’m partial to Heart Attack City, myself.

 
 
 
TheLastClown says:

Looks like this is going to go on for a while.

 
Bill N says:

so how many knotts will K-Rod give Halos fans stomachs tonight ?

 
pat says:

holy shit i thought that was gonzo

 
Ivan says:

I thought that was gone yo.

 
Mike A. says:

Hit Willits in a bad spot, right in the mitt.

 
pat says:

weather its a lucky stat or not youkilis hitting 378 or whatever w/risp is pretty incredible

 
Bill N says:
 
UWS says:
 
pat says:
 
YankCrank20 says:

Holly shit he was so out

 
Mike A. says:
Mike A. says:

Heh, Aybar had a little conniption there.

Whitey14 says:

He should have a conniption fit there. I would too if I missed the tag on his front foot and even allowed the umpire to have a shot at blowing the call. Slow motion replay didn’t even let us see difinitively if his front foot reached the bag before the tag came on his back foot. I wouldn’t bet a quarter on whether that call was right or wrong. Some of you guys must have some incredible vision…

 
 
 
 
YankCrank20 says:

it’s ok Drew sucks he’ll blow it

pat says:
 
YankCrank20 says:
 
 
pat says:

k-rod’s got some marlon brando godfather type cheeks

 
TheLastClown says:
 
UWS says:

Yup, K-Rod will fit right in on the Mets.

 
E-ROC says:

Damn Mike, you just had to jinx them.

 
Ivan says:
 
YankCrank20 says:
 
Mike A. says:

Figures. K-Rod sucks so bad, it’s not even funny.

I need to see some Mo, I forgot what a real closer looks like.

 
Alex says:

88 mph? Was that the fastball?

Mike A. says:

I think it was a changeup that didn’t change. Those are called “meatballs.”

 
 
Ivan says:

Which sucker is gonna pay K-Rod 60+ Million.

 
E-ROC says:

Tigers…….nevermind, the Mets will.

 
Alex says:

He’ll either be a Met or a Tiger. It’d be a smooth transition from Todd Jones to K-Rod.

 
 
Ivan says:

Seriously, his FB velocity is not the same and has gone down for a while. All he throws is breaking balls and his control is average on a good day.

He’s 26 and lose velo on his heat.

At 26, Mo was throwing 98MPH and at 38 Mo throws harder than K-Rod.

pat says:

just makes you realize even more that we got to watch one of the greatest pitchers of all time

 
 
Ivan says:

You know whats funny, K-Rod might be the highest paid closer in baseball and is only the 5th best closer in the AL and 6th best in the majors if you include Lidge.

Mike A. says:

Kerry Wood is better too. Hell, you can argue that Marmol is a better closer too.

 
 
dkidd says:

when they cut to the stunned close-up of scioscia (or however it’s spelled) i had an epiphany: i hate the angels more than i hate the red sox

UWS says:

Seriously. I think I might hate K-Rod more than I hate most of the Red Sox. So while it’s disappointing that Boston will win, anything that takes K-Rod down a peg can’t be that bad.

 
 
E-ROC says:

Really??????????????????????

A bunt attempt????????????

Mike A. says:

Seriously. That might have been the dumbest play I’ve seen by anyone ever.

Lanny says:

Not like he had a LEG PROBLEM or anything.

 
 
 
Ivan says:

Well this series is probably over.

 
dkidd says:

i’m coming late to this thread, did anyone else notice scott boros looming over variteks shoulder all game?

Mike A. says:

Yeah, he’s got season tix.

pat says:

wtf kind of seat is that its like a special dugout

Lanny says:

Well he does represent about ten guys on each team here.

 
 
 
 
Ivan says:

This team was soft 100 win team anyway. Overrated. And the thing about is, this was their best chance to win.

 
E-ROC says:

Its pretty sad when a failed $50 million player is having a better AB than a failed $90 million player

 
dkidd says:

okay, never mind. i hate the red sox more

 
pat says:

yankee stadium he would have had a facefull of fist, granted it was a row of camerapeople but nonetheless

 
UWS says:

Could a non-life-threatening accident happen to Chip Caray that deprives him of all ability to speak?

 
Mike A. says:

Seriously? No fan could get in the way there? Sissy SoCalers.

 
Ivan says:

Here’s another guy ticking me off, Howie Kendrick.

 
E-ROC says:

Kendrick actually took a pitch.

 
Mike A. says:

Oh good, Howie Kendrick represents out number 27.

UWS says:

Veritably A-Rodian.

 
 
E-ROC says:

He’ll probably strike out anyway.

 
dkidd says:
 
Ivan says:

Seriously though, the only teams that could of beaten the Sox in a 7 game series are the three teams in the AL East, TB, NY, and Tor and two of them are not in the playoffs obviously.

Mike A. says:

No kidding. The Jays would have put up more of a fight.

 
 
Mike A. says:

Papelbon’s such a bitch.

 
dkidd says:

who’s more annoying? papelbon or k-rod?

pat says:

papelbon beyond a shred of a doubt

 
 
pat says:

yes papelbon that IS what you are talking about

 
Ivan says:

No surprise Kendrick swings at a pitch at his head and K’s and ends the game. His A-bats have been atrocious.

Lanny says:

Who’s had worse at bats this playoffs?

Kendrick, Soriano, or Fukodome

Mike A. says:

Oof, that’s tough.

Lanny says:

I’m partial to Soriano because watching him now reminds me of his classic strike out everytime at-bat parade in the 2003 playoffs. Good memories.

 
 
 
 
E-ROC says:

E.T.’s celebration is bush league. Seriously, its not that serious. Act like you’ve been there before at least one time.

 
Bill N says:

i am going to go throwup now

 
Ivan says:

Yo these playoff games suck.

 
pat says:

are all the series’ 2-0 now?

 
 
Lanny says:

How do the Angels roll over and die everytime they play Boston?

It is embarrassing.

We are staring at 3 titles in 5 years for them. Makes me sick.

Mike A. says:

They still have a long ways to go before you can say 3-in-5.

Lanny says:

You really see the Rays beating them?

Phillies and Dodgers??

pat says:

all three actually

Lanny says:

I see the Phils and Dodgers as NL patsies ala 2004-2007.

The Rays starters don’t go more than 5 innings. That team scares you?

Their two biggest challenges are about to bow out in lame fashion.

 
 
Mike A. says:

They’re not perfect. The Angels just make them look that way.

 
 
 
 
Lanny says:

Maybe I have bad memories of the past 3 years but I really think a 5 game series is terrible.

If you lose Game 1, especially at home, you are pretty much F’d.

I don’t see why they haven’t gone to 7 games. They have all the days off to do it and since when does MLB turn down extra revenue?

 
pat says:

i just wish both chicago teams could be swept at home on the same day

 
Lanny says:

OJ just went down. Karma for committing two murders.

pat says:

im kind of hoping the jury leans more towards life as opposed to the 15 years

 
 
Bonos says:

Brackman four scoreless innings 2 H, 1BB, 4 SO.

pat says:
 
Arizona Steve says:

How are you getting the updates?

pat says:

mlb.com then click the stats tab and go to winter leagues

Arizona Steve says:
 
 
 
 
Ivan says:

Brackman 5.0 3 0 0 1 5 0

That’s more like it.

 
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