ALCS Game 6: Just win, Tampa

A Yankee fan roots for the Red Sox
Joba arrested for DUI

You know what it is about these Red Sox that really bother me? They shouldn’t be this good. When you look at the lineup for today’s game and compare to the ones the Sox put forward in 2004, that 2004 team would tear apart this 2008 team.

Anyway, you know the drill. Tampa was seven outs away from the World Series with a seven-run lead and couldn’t seal the deal. They better win tonight; I can’t stomach a game seven.

Tampa led the Majors with 57 home wins this year. One more gets them into the Fall Classic.

The game thread is going up early because we’re all out tonight. Feel free to use this as an open thread until the game starts at 8:07 p.m.

Boston Red Sox
1. Coco Crisp, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Jason Bay, LF
7. Mark Kotsay, 1B
8. Jed Lowrie, SS
9. Jason Varitek, C

SP — Josh Beckett

Tampa Bay Rays
1. Akinori Iwamura, 2B
2. B.J. Upton, CF
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. Evan Longoria, 3B
5. Carl Crawford, LF
6. Cliff Floyd, DH
7. Dioner Navarro, C
8. Gabe Gross, RF
9. Jason Bartlett, SS

SP: James Shields

Update by Mike (8:30pm): Apparently there’s a power outage at TBS’ headquarters, so the game’s not on TV here. Here’s MLB’s live feed. It’s on TBS now.

A Yankee fan roots for the Red Sox
Joba arrested for DUI
  • Troy

    Go Rays!

  • Brian

    No kidding about the 2004 team. One just needs to look at the degradation of Varitek, Papi, and Timlin alone to see that. Another thing that gets me is that Lowell isn’t even playing and Kotsay’s at first. Give me a break.

  • Jeff

    Couldn’t you make the same kind of comment about the line-ups, comparing the Yankee teams with Murderer’s Row plus Cano versus the 1996 World Series Yankees?

    • Steve

      Sure, and as we all know the muderers row team went nowhere come October.

      The more telling comparison for playoff purposes would be to compare the two pitching staffs.

      2004 Pedro/Schilling top of rotation with a hot Derek Lowe going into the playoffs. Foulke was the closer in a career year for him.

      2008 Beckett and Lester at top with Dice-K as the #3. Paps the closer

      Average middle relievers on both teams. Pretty close pitching wise, assuming Beckett is healthy. But most people think he isn’t.

  • Steve

    Hughes got clobbered in the AFL today

    2.2 innings, 7 hits, 8 runs, 7 earned, 2 walks, 1 k

    Don’t have a link. It all came apart in the 3rd from what my buddy told me. Single, bloop, hit by pitch, sac fly, followed by a HR and a few more hits. Bad outing, no way around it.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      It happens. Oh well.

    • Stryker

      can’t save them all, hasselhoff.

      • Steve

        If the Sox win tonight, I’ll be just as drunk as he usually is.

  • Steve

    Since we didn’t have a Dot-f today, I’ll post this here. BA article about Yankee lefty Michael Dunn

    Sorry dude, can’t post subscriber only info. Our lawyers are busy enough with Ambiorix Burgos. DotF will be up after the game.

    • Steve

      Wonder if they like him enough to let Marte walk. I hope not.

      So many fans are down on Marte, but I hope they keep him. You just can’t find good lefties, the Yanks have searched for years. Pick up the option, and if he sucks just cut him/deal him around mid season. Its not like the 6 mil will kill the Yanks, but not having a solid lefty will.

    • Jack

      Either that was edited, or you are the biggest tease ever.

    • Steve

      Gotcha. Sorry bout that.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    So … where’s the game? Why is TBS showing some crappy bloopers show?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      What the hell was that all about? Must have been a rain delay in the Trop.

    • Jay

      Was wondering the same thing… Now it’s the Steve Harvey Show!

      How does this happen?

  • http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com iYankees

    TBS can’t get the game to us, due to technical difficulties? How crappy is that? I love Steve Harvey, but come on!

  • http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com iYankees

    Steve Harvey has the sharpest hairline, ever. It’s mesmerizing.

  • UWS

    Steve Harvey Show??!!???

    ??!?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Coco just bunted for a single to 3B on the first pitch of the game.

    • UWS

      Is the game being shown on some other channel? How the hell did they manage to fuck up something like this?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        I’ve got Gameday up.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Shields picked him off first.

  • http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/burressDM0402_468x305.jpg Nady Nation

    This is a fucking joke. TBS should be stripped of their playoff rights forever

    • UWS

      No kidding. What a clusterf*k.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Seriously. I want FOX back.

    • http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com iYankees

      Seriously, this is terrible.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Pedroia popped out.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Ortiz K’ed. Inning over.

  • http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/burressDM0402_468x305.jpg Nady Nation

    Man, thank god this isn’t the Yanks. I’d be flipping my lid. Red Sawx Nation must be going insane

    • http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/burressDM0402_468x305.jpg Nady Nation

      thank Mo*

      My bad.

  • JeffG

    TBS = Total Bullshit Station… where the hell is the game?
    If it wasn’t for Family Guy I’d boycott.

  • Bill N

    This is about regoddamndiculous. TBS really ? Welcome to broadcasting, atleast there is some good college football on

  • UWS

    Devils’ power play looks like crap.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    I tried calling TBS, can’t get thru. Give it a shot if you want:

    404-885-0758

    http://support.tbs.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5475

    • http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/burressDM0402_468x305.jpg Nady Nation

      Is it possible that this whole game wouldn’t be shown? I know they’ll probably correct these technical issues, but can you imagine if that happened?

      • http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com iYankees

        Haha, I think they’d be pretty funny, actually, as it would punish Sox fans across the nation.

  • http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com iYankees

    Apparently, the Red Sox comeback in game 5 was so unbelievable, TBS totally forgot about game 6.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    From PeteAbe:

    Game 6 of the ALCS is not on television, apparently because of a power outage at Turner Television headquarters in Atlanta.

    No word from MLB when the broadcast will start.

    • Jay

      Good to know they didn’t just decide to show The Steve Harvey Show, thinking it would get better ratings…

  • Mike Pop

    This is why you cant trust TBS with this kind of game… Yes should be covering this game

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.
    • Mike Pop

      When trouble is afoot Mike A saves the day

  • Lanny

    This is what happens when you put playoff games on TBS.

  • Steve

    Plan B anyone? Online radio link?

    Who carries the Rays or Red Sox games locally?

  • http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com iYankees

    BJ UPTON HOMERS!!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Upton just homered. Again.

  • Steve

    Tampa just scored. 1-0

    • Steve

      Upton HR, what else.

  • Ivan

    Boss Man Jr in da mothafuckin House bitches.

  • UWS

    On the plus side: no Chip Caray and Buck Martinez.

    Or Craig Sager and his fluorescent jackets.

  • Lanny

    Why can’t they show Frank TV?? They’ve only run 7 million promos for it the past 2 weeks

  • Mike Pop

    I would expect this if the Yanks were involved but not THE BOSTON COMEBACK KIDS RED SOX !!!

  • Mike Pop

    How is there a live feed is it only becuz of TBS’s problems or they always have one ?>

  • http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com iYankees

    Game on… Damn, Upton really regained that power stroke during the playoffs..

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Game’s on TBS.

    • UWS

      Thanks!

  • Steve

    “You haven’t missed much”

    What a douchebag.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Apparently Upton’s homer went off the catwalk.

  • UWS

    Hmmm…I have a bad feeling about this game.

  • Steve

    All of a sudden I miss Steve Harvey.

  • Lanny

    All the talk about Longoria being the best in the dov soon should stop. Upton is the guy.

    • Steve

      Ooooof.

    • UWS

      I’m sure that’ll be a fun argument to have for years to come.

    • Mike Pop

      Id take either guy but Id rather have Longoria

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Jamie Shields is only throwing 89-90. He’ll never be a successful ML pitcher, especially in the AL East.

    • Ivan

      Word. He sucks.

      • Mike Pop

        Might as well release Kennedy

  • Mike Pop

    Fuck you Youk

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Sheesh, ground balls are finding the holes, eh?

    • Steve

      . . and the fly balls are finding seats.

  • Mike Pop

    I dont like this

  • Ivan

    just called that a ball.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Beckett’s like, 90% off-speed stuff right now.

    • Steve

      Even his fastball is off speed. That 2nd pitch to Floyd was 88 MPH.

      Francona can tell everyone he’s healthy, nobody’s buying it.

    • Mike Pop

      He looks better tonight than he has in the past couple games

  • Ivan

    Fuck man.

  • Mike Pop

    Mike, how is Shields so effective with that kind of speed ? Its a serious question. Alot of guys who throw as hard as him arent as effective. Is it because of his changeup/control/movement ?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      He spots it well and mixes in his offspeed stuff nicely. He’s got a Grade A changeup, might be the best in baseball, so that certainly helps.

  • Mike Pop

    Man fuck the Sox

  • Pedro

    Price warming in the pen.

  • UWS

    Not. Good.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That was ol’ unintentional intentional walk to Drew.

  • Pedro

    It would be nice if Shields could throw a strike every now and then.

  • Ivan

    That was close.

  • Ivan

    any of y’all got a sidekick?

    • Thomas

      The phone or like Robin compared to Batman? I don’t have either, but I’d like the latter.

      • Ivan

        the phone. I don’t have one either and I was considering buying one.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Can’t help ya, I’m still rockin’ my three year old RAZR.

          • Ivan

            and you have not considered changing it?

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              I have, but I’m thinking iPhone.

        • UWS

          I gotz me an ol’ CrackBerry. Don’t need no stinkin’ Sidekicks.

          • Ivan

            It seems that Blkberries are for more older/mature people, while SK’s are for younger hip people.

            • UWS

              What are you implying?

              • Ivan

                Not dissing anybody just saying that almost every person who I saw with a SK’s a little younger and etc and dudes with blkberries I,ve seen is for mature people. Maybe it’s just me.

                • UWS

                  If by “younger people” you mean damn high-schoolers, you’re probably right :-P

            • A.D.

              bbery > sidekick

  • Ivan

    Wow Beckett is pitching like Greg Maddux.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    The strike zone is slightly amorphous tonight.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    If Dustin Pedroia leaning into a pitch like that and it ould be called gritty. Jason Bartlett … not so much.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Take Aki, take until he’s got 2 strikes on you. Get Bossman up there with as many runners on as possible.

    • Ivan

      True, but to be fair, unless Beckett is a moron, he’s gonna throw a FB right down the pipe in that situation, so if your Aki might as well swing at a FB down the pipe right?

  • Steve

    7 HR’s in his last 28 ABs

    So if he can keep this up, he should hit 150 HR’s next year. Can’t wait.

  • Ivan

    Yo did anybody saw the new Mortal Kombat Vs. DC universe game? I just knew about it today while I was at game stop.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Wow, Cousins out of the game. Hopefully we get a normal strike zone now.

    • UWS

      What happened to him?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Took a foul tip off the mask, but he stayed in for the rest of the inning and another half inning. Leaving the game now.

        • UWS

          Wow. Can an ump be gritty? Or gutsy?

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Well, the foul tip came off Varitek’s bat, so maybe it was grit by osmosis?

            • UWS

              That’s some painful osmosis.

    • Ivan

      Advantage Rays

      • Steve

        I think so, if for no other reason the delay will affect Beckett more, since I think he’s hurt.

  • MasterShake

    Breaking news: Upton ties A-rod in career home runs…in the postseason. He is 2 behind A-rod in RBIs. Longoria is in hot pursuit as well.

    Therefore if the Rays lose it is Arods fault.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Upton’s also already hit the 4th most homeruns in a single postseason in history.

      • Mike Pop

        Beltran up there too right ?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Yeah.

          1. Bonds, 8, 2002
          2. Beltran, 8, 2004
          3. Glaus, 7, 2002
          4. Upton, 7, 2008

  • Ivan

    Varitek bat is even killing umpires.

  • UWS

    Why does it take so long to replace a friggin’ ump? This game sucks.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Wonder how the layoff will affect the pitchers. Beckett will probably sit on the bench for a good 30-40 minutes when it’s all said and done.

      • Steve

        Wherever his injury is, that cant help it.

    • Thomas

      They’ll probably blame instant replay for the delay.

      • UWS

        Come on, we all know it’s ARod’s fault.

        • Thomas

          Obviously he is the reason for replay.

  • Steve

    Brooke Shields is a nice looking babe and all, but these Volkswagen commercials are just hideous.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I saw her way back in the day on Broadway in Grease.

      For some reason I felt like sharing that.

      • Steve

        I guess I’m just partial to the Mercury car commercial babe.

  • UWS

    Bold prediction: final score of this game will not be 2-1.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I get the feeling that it just might end 2-1. We’ll see…

      • Steve

        I know. Beckett should have cracked by now.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          You know we’re due for a bunch of “Beckett, the greatest postseason pitcher in the history of the universe, really gutted out this game” stories regardless of what happens from here on out.

          Scott Kazmir pitched a gem in Game 5 and there was something wrong with him (either mechanical or physical), but nothin’.

          • UWS

            Kazmir doesn’t play the game the right way. Duh.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Swipe a few bags now, Carl.

  • Pedro

    Watching the Rays tonight is just like watching the Yankees this season. Pitcher having a hard time, batters having terrible AB’s, balls findind holes through the D, just great.

  • Bill N

    How was that a strike ?

  • Steve

    If the Sox do win tonight, does anyone here still like the Rays in tomorrow’s game?

  • Mike Pop

    UGh this series should be over !!!!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Damn yo. I went to kitchen to make a sandwich just as Floyd grounded out to end the 4th, and when I just came back the top of the 5th was over already. I guess Shields figured it out.

  • Mike Pop

    Beckett might just turn back into the best postseason pitcha eva !!1!1!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Zobrist? Why not Baldelli?

  • Pedro

    Are the Rays trying to lose?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Note to every current and future manager: never try to a) steal, or b) hit and run when the catcher is at first.

    • Mike Pop

      What you mean the cap’n Tek cant steal bases ?

  • Steve

    WTF Navarro?

    That’s just A-Rod-esque trying too hard right there.

  • Ivan

    Great.

  • UWS

    You’ve gotta be fucking kidding me.

    • Joey

      ditto

  • Jay

    Bingo!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    JA-SON BART-LETT clap clap clapclapclap JA-SON BART-LETT clap clap clapclapclap

    MVP!!!

  • Ivan

    TB is winning this game. I mean come on, when Bartlett hits a homer, you gotta win.

  • Mike Pop

    Man o Man Maddon is fuckin up

  • Bill N

    Why in the hell was he stealing ? But good stuff on the bomb

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      It was a hit-and-run, Zobrist couldn’t make contact with the high curve that almost hit him in the face.

  • UWS

    Told you it wouldn’t end 2-1.

    Fuckin’ Navarro.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Anyone wanna put money on it not ending 2-2?

      • UWS

        How can you be so sure?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I’m using a portion of my cunning. No wait! All my cunning.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Hah, the greatest postseason pitcher EVA!!11!! is one away from setting the record for most homers allowed in a single postseason.

    • Mike Pop

      Thats cuz hes not afraid to go after pitchers, he is gritty and that means no matter how the game ends he is still a champion

    • UWS

      Too bad both of tonight’s were solo shots. Grumble.

  • UWS

    “Ben Zobrist remains in the game as right fielder.”

    WTF? Zobrist plays the OF?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Yeah, just started this year. He was playing center after BJ hurt his shoulder.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Aki got ups.

  • Mike Pop

    I wish Shields was a Yankee, he fucken hates the red sox

  • Steve

    Motherfucker.

  • Jay

    Another HR by an anti-MVP

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Yeah … so … NO ONE saw Varitek doing that.

    • Ivan

      Not even God saw that coming.

      • UWS

        …but Mo might’ve.

        • Mike Pop

          Mo have mercy let the Rays win this series

  • Mike Pop

    Jesus

  • Pedro

    Varitek…this is impossible.

  • Ivan

    Crap.

  • UWS

    Yuck.

  • Mike Pop

    Honestly I dont want to hear more of PApelbon if the Sox win this game

  • Ivan

    The two MVP’s of Bartlett and Varitek show up to play today.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Good, get the lefty in there to face Ortiz and Drew.

  • Mike Pop
    • UWS

      With a bat?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Oy vay Bartlett…

  • Mike Pop

    omg

  • Pedro

    The Rays looked so good through the first 4 and half games, now they look like the ’08 Yankees.

    • Ivan

      The same team that won 89 games.

  • Ivan

    All of a sudden Ortiz and Varitek wanna show up.

  • UWS

    My God Mo. They’re purposely trying to lose, aren’t they.

  • Lanny

    The wheels have come off the Rays bus. The Sox overcome another ALCS deficit. Crazy

  • Mike Pop

    Who starts game 7 for Rays

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Garza, if necessary.

    • Jay

      Garza

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Hopefully Francona leaves Beckett in too long again.

    • UWS

      Not this time. Sigh.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    YouK!!! UUUUUUUGE strikeout by Howell.

    Upton, Pena, Longoria due up, time to do some damage.

    • Mike Pop

      3 runs right here

  • UWS

    12 outs to score 2+ runs. Difficult, but not impossible. They only need to look at Sox in Game 5…

  • Ivan

    iight maybe the TB rays win by beating Papelbon no?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.
    • UWS

      Wow. What a moron.

    • Ivan

      Great. the day keeps gettin better. Joba gets arrested, Hughes gets rocked and now the rays are losing. Fantastic.

    • Ivan

      So that mean we might have to take it easy with the Buchholz jokes?

      • UWS

        No.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Yes, definitely. Buchholz just stole a bunch of computers. Joba could have killed someone, himself most likely.

        What a fucking moron.

        • Mike Pop

          Sox fans are gonna eat him alive at Fenway and in general

    • Mike Pop

      This upsets me alot

  • Ivan

    Wow where was that.

  • Reggie C.

    Longoria. A clutch homer would be nice.

  • Pedro

    Is there any chance Lester doesn’t throw 8 innings of 1-run ball tomorrow to win the ALCS?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Game’s not over, chill out.

      • Lanny

        This game was over as soon as Drew got that hit 2 nights ago.

      • Pedro

        I know, I’m just saying, in case there’s a game 7.

    • Mike Pop

      Ya but Garza throws a no no

    • Dimaggio5

      None.

  • Ivan

    Balfour betta do a much better job.

  • Mike Pop

    God Joba getting arrested just killed the decent mood i was in

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Balfour should be able to blow Varitek away. No excuses.

  • Jay

    Who is this “David ORR-tise” character Buck Martinez keeps referring to?

  • Ivan

    I still can’t believe Varitek hit a homer.

    • UWS

      Mystique and Aura helped out, dontcha know.

  • Mike Pop

    Cmon Balfour

  • Mike Pop

    This game is a hit away from being tied.. ITS NOT OVER

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Word. This game will not end 4-2.

  • Ivan

    Lets Go Rays.

  • Lanny

    Lester will be in 2 hit shutout mode tomorrow.

    Maybe the Phils can actually slay them. Someone has to.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      TBS = Tampa blowing series

      • Mike Pop

        Everything just seems to go the red sox way

  • Reggie C.

    Rays looking like the magic is gone. Hughes and Joba get bombed. Knicks suck. When do the G-men play??

  • Mike R.

    The suspense is officially over. I just heard this quote from an ESPN analyst.

    “First they (The Red Sox) come back from a 7-0 deficit and now they’re winning today. That’s it! They’re winning the world series. There is no doubt.”

    Kirk Herbstreit during the Texas vs Mizzou telecast.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I like Herby, he usually has his head on straight and is very fair when talking college football. Red Sox though … not so much.

    • Mike Pop

      Well Kirk does know everything…except his picks for the top 10 in the 2008 nfl draft

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Big DP. Chad Bradford’s money in the postseason.

  • ESSRO

    Longroias such a stud over there at third

  • Mike Pop

    Could we give the Twins X and say Kennedy for one of their young pitchers ? Would they go for that or is too much ? X and a B prospect ?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Nah, thay have plenty of OFers and need a 3B. I don’t think X could play there anymore, and even if he could I doubt the Twins would want a guy making that much money and only a yr away from free agency.

      • Mike Pop

        OO okaay cuz i was just reading MLBTR and I figured they needed offense so i was thinking it.. I would like to get something for X tho and bring Bobby back

  • Brian

    stipe sucks. come on rays.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Big HBP by Bartlett. Tying run to the plate with the meat of the order coming up.

  • Mike Pop

    Ugh that K was huge. Is Masterson really this good

  • Mike Pop

    BJ trying too hard looks like

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    This thread’s slowing down for some people, I started a new one here:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/18/alcs-game-6-spillover-thread-5243/