Comments on: James: Yanks lacking in young talent http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 03:59:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ortforshort http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/#comment-190037 ortforshort Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:40:01 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5334#comment-190037 You can't dispute that the Red Sox and the Angels have drafted well over the past several years, but the exceptions prove the rule. Now that other teams like the Yankees have decided to persue and spend more on supposedly unsignable players, those two clubs will most likely find it more difficult to do as well in the draft as they have in the recent past. Meanwhile, now that the Yankees have finally gotten serious about player development, I expect that they'll be doing a lot better. I don't see it as being sad that the Yankees are spending 200 million on their payroll. Why is 200 million some sort of magic number that you're not supposed to exceed? The Yankees took in around half a billion last year. If the economy had held up, they probably would have taken in another 100 million on top of that with the new ballpark next year. They can afford to spend. The Yankees business model is stay in contention and you'll bring in a lot of money. Unclear where the sad part of that is. They need to sign Teixeira and Sabbathia both to stay in contention next year - so do it - user your resources. If the Yankees don't spend, they'll lose a lot more in revenue than they spend on payroll. Anyway, if they draft better in the future, maybe the Yankees can save a few bucks in payroll, but its not a mandatory thing. You can’t dispute that the Red Sox and the Angels have drafted well over the past several years, but the exceptions prove the rule. Now that other teams like the Yankees have decided to persue and spend more on supposedly unsignable players, those two clubs will most likely find it more difficult to do as well in the draft as they have in the recent past. Meanwhile, now that the Yankees have finally gotten serious about player development, I expect that they’ll be doing a lot better. I don’t see it as being sad that the Yankees are spending 200 million on their payroll. Why is 200 million some sort of magic number that you’re not supposed to exceed? The Yankees took in around half a billion last year. If the economy had held up, they probably would have taken in another 100 million on top of that with the new ballpark next year. They can afford to spend. The Yankees business model is stay in contention and you’ll bring in a lot of money. Unclear where the sad part of that is. They need to sign Teixeira and Sabbathia both to stay in contention next year – so do it – user your resources. If the Yankees don’t spend, they’ll lose a lot more in revenue than they spend on payroll. Anyway, if they draft better in the future, maybe the Yankees can save a few bucks in payroll, but its not a mandatory thing.

]]> By: Tony http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/#comment-189343 Tony Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:27:36 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5334#comment-189343 Chris the Red Sox fan is here again. Ignore the troll. Chris the Red Sox fan is here again. Ignore the troll.

]]> By: Tony http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/#comment-189341 Tony Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:26:53 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5334#comment-189341 Chris the Red Sox fan is at it again. Let's point and laugh. Chris the Red Sox fan is at it again. Let’s point and laugh.

]]> By: Tony http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/#comment-189339 Tony Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:25:22 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5334#comment-189339 You're an idiot Chris. The 3rd round guy got bad advance. He is a one pitch pitcher who relies on a gimmick. Good luck to him next year. The other kid wanted to go to UCLA. The father beat it into his head. You can't evaluate a draft that only happened this year. God, you are stupid. You’re an idiot Chris. The 3rd round guy got bad advance. He is a one pitch pitcher who relies on a gimmick. Good luck to him next year.

The other kid wanted to go to UCLA. The father beat it into his head.

You can’t evaluate a draft that only happened this year. God, you are stupid.

]]> By: Chris C. http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/#comment-189289 Chris C. Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:48:08 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5334#comment-189289 God, I hope you're not trying to imply that Cano is anywhere near the ballplayer Pedroia is. Does Pedroia need a third base coach on his back the entire season to keep focussed? God, I hope you’re not trying to imply that Cano is anywhere near the ballplayer Pedroia is.

Does Pedroia need a third base coach on his back the entire season to keep focussed?

]]> By: Chris C. http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/#comment-189283 Chris C. Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:38:59 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5334#comment-189283 "Yup. And I’d still trade him for Joba, straight up, in a heartbeat, because starters >>>>>> relievers." Yeah, sure. If Soria was on your team, and he just closed 45 games with a 1.60 ERA and a O.89 WHIP, you'd deal him for a guy who couldn't even start more than 12 games before being shelved. I don't believe it. “Yup. And I’d still trade him for Joba, straight up, in a heartbeat, because starters >>>>>> relievers.”

Yeah, sure. If Soria was on your team, and he just closed 45 games with a 1.60 ERA and a O.89 WHIP, you’d deal him for a guy who couldn’t even start more than 12 games before being shelved.

I don’t believe it.

]]> By: Chris C. http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/#comment-189273 Chris C. Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:28:39 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5334#comment-189273 So you'd trade Mariano Rivera for John Danks or Chad Billingsley? So you’d trade Mariano Rivera for John Danks or Chad Billingsley?

]]> By: Chris C. http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/#comment-189258 Chris C. Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:10:02 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5334#comment-189258 Dude, their first and third round picks aren't even signed with the team! That alone makes the draft dissappointing. Sure, a few guys piked in the accompanying rounds may end up panning out, but those two draft spots not even showing up to camp is crap. Dude, their first and third round picks aren’t even signed with the team! That alone makes the draft dissappointing. Sure, a few guys piked in the accompanying rounds may end up panning out, but those two draft spots not even showing up to camp is crap.

]]> By: Chris C. http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/#comment-189256 Chris C. Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:07:06 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5334#comment-189256 "Every year the few blue chippers are long gone by the time its the Yankees turn." This isn't the NBA draft. There are blue-chippers available for the first few rounds. You also neglected to mention that alot of blue-chippers fall to the Yankees because the small market teams don't want to have to deal with their agent.......a guy by the name of Boras. "Cashman and Oppenheimer have done better than expected considering where the Yankees draft." How so? Aside from Kennedy and Hughes, I can't think of a single first rounder the Yankees have taken over the past 10 years that has done anything of significance. Heck, even those two haven't yet! "Also, they’ve only gotten serious about the farm system a few years ago, so its not surprising that the Yankees are far behind most clubs in young talent." It's VERY surprising that a team with the money and resources that the Yankees have would neglect ANYTHING! How the hell can a team with two surefire current future Hall of Famers on it from their own farm system end up neglecting that kind of talent source? "This year its mandatory to get Sabbathia and Teixeira or the Yankees will fall even farther behind their division rivals." How sad is it that considering the Yankees have a 200 million dollar payroll, they still need the two best available free agents out there just to COMPETE. It's sad how right you are! “Every year the few blue chippers are long gone by the time its the Yankees turn.”

This isn’t the NBA draft. There are blue-chippers available for the first few rounds. You also neglected to mention that alot of blue-chippers fall to the Yankees because the small market teams don’t want to have to deal with their agent…….a guy by the name of Boras.

“Cashman and Oppenheimer have done better than expected considering where the Yankees draft.”

How so? Aside from Kennedy and Hughes, I can’t think of a single first rounder the Yankees have taken over the past 10 years that has done anything of significance. Heck, even those two haven’t yet!

“Also, they’ve only gotten serious about the farm system a few years ago, so its not surprising that the Yankees are far behind most clubs in young talent.”

It’s VERY surprising that a team with the money and resources that the Yankees have would neglect ANYTHING! How the hell can a team with two surefire current future Hall of Famers on it from their own farm system end up neglecting that kind of talent source?

“This year its mandatory to get Sabbathia and Teixeira or the Yankees will fall even farther behind their division rivals.”

How sad is it that considering the Yankees have a 200 million dollar payroll, they still need the two best available free agents out there just to COMPETE.
It’s sad how right you are!

]]> By: Chris C. http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/james-yanks-lacking-in-young-talent-5334/#comment-189244 Chris C. Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:54:23 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5334#comment-189244 "Because the Yankees draft near the bottom each year, they’ll never be able to build a contending club using their farm system alone." Huh? Near the bottom of what? The first round? If they let all their free agents walk, they'd pick up about 8-10 1st to 2nd round picks as compensation for their signing elsewhere. Look at the Red Sox..........was Lester picked at the top of the draft? Or Masterson? Or Hanley Ramirez and Sanchez, which netted them Beckett and Lowell? How about Youkilas? Lowrie? Ellsbury? Papelbon? MAtsuzaka? Delcarmen? Okajima? Bucholtz? AND.................PEDROIA!!! Guess where he was drafted? HE WASN"T!! He was passed over for about 1000 rounds of the draft from every team. Youkilas, Pedroia, Papelbon, and Lester are actually collectively better than the four Top 10 draft picks TB currently has on their roster. Sorry, pal.......it's not where you draft. It's HOW you draft. The Red Sox are tremendous at this.......the Yankees aren't. “Because the Yankees draft near the bottom each year, they’ll never be able to build a contending club using their farm system alone.”

Huh? Near the bottom of what? The first round? If they let all their free agents walk, they’d pick up about 8-10 1st to 2nd round picks as compensation for their signing elsewhere.

Look at the Red Sox……….was Lester picked at the top of the draft? Or Masterson? Or Hanley Ramirez and Sanchez, which netted them Beckett and Lowell? How about Youkilas? Lowrie? Ellsbury? Papelbon? MAtsuzaka? Delcarmen? Okajima? Bucholtz?
AND……………..PEDROIA!!! Guess where he was drafted? HE WASN”T!! He was passed over for about 1000 rounds of the draft from every team.
Youkilas, Pedroia, Papelbon, and Lester are actually collectively better than the four Top 10 draft picks TB currently has on their roster.

Sorry, pal…….it’s not where you draft. It’s HOW you draft.
The Red Sox are tremendous at this…….the Yankees aren’t.

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