NLDS Game 1: Two familiar faces square off

Thoughts on Brackman, the 30th pick
ALDS Game 1: Who do you want to win?

The last time Joe Torre and Lou Piniella met in the postseason, Sweet Lou guaranteed a six-game series while the 2001 Yankees dispatched the 116-win Mariners in five. Piniella again has the superior team, record-wise, and Joe Torre is attempting to regain some of the playoff mojo that has deserted him over the past few years. Game time is at 6:30 p.m., and free agent-to-be Ryan Dempster (17-6, 2.96) will face free agent-to-be Derek Lowe (14-11, 3.24).

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Thoughts on Brackman, the 30th pick
ALDS Game 1: Who do you want to win?
  • Ivan

    How many Frank Caliendo commercials were gonna see during the game? Any guess.

    • A.D.

      well a least one per break, sometimes 2. So 2 per inning played, would be 18, plus pitching changes, looks like 20-24

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Ah memories. Fonsy swinging at everything.

    • Ivan

      He couldn’t lay off that slider down and away to save his life.

  • Ivan

    Like this quote by Cashman:

    “For a long time we have been old and everybody knows it. When we fix it, people say `Oh my God, you missed the playoffs, off with his head,”’ Cashman said at a news conference at Yankee Stadium. “I plan on sticking to a vision.”

    Good Cashman.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Amen.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    The Cubs have this game in the bag. Dempster grew a GritBeard.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

      I believe it’s called a Erstad.

      (Or possibly a Faustino.)

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        A Pedrukilis?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    One year in, and teh Johan has his first surgery.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3620064

    People would be flipping the fuck out if he was on the Yanks and that happened.

    • Ivan

      The tide is turning lol.

    • UWS

      Gotta give the dude credit though: he pitched a gem with a torn meniscus and on short rest. That’s pretty darn impressive.

  • Ivan

    And Ethier swings at ball 4.

  • Ivan

    This is the first time since becoming a yankee fan in 96 that I am experiencing a postseason without the yankees. It’s tough but o well.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Yeah it’s certainly different, but what can you do.

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        Blame Phil Hughes for not throwing harder than 91-MPH?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          And Cash for not traded Melky & IPK for Santana when he had the chance.

          • Ivan

            Because this is about now now now now now and did I mention now. Fuck the future.

  • Ivan

    5BB from Dempster in less than 5 IP.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    I am so glad Manny can’t have at-bats like that against the Yanks any more.

  • A.D.

    Is Dempster harnessing the power of the grit-beard to get out of this jam??

    • A.D.

      i guess not, wow

  • Ivan

    Hey Mike, I was trying to ask you in ya chat earlier, but if the yankees have a full commitment to Romine and have him in their plans and think he can be a core player, wouldn’t it be better to move Montero to 1ST base to learn the position and get aclimated with it. His Bat is really his calling card.

    And Romine is the better all-round catcher and his bat is pretty good albeit not at Montero level.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Nah, no reason too yet. If Montero can catch, you put him there. His bat is far more valuable at that position.

      In the highly unlikely event that both Montero and Romine make it to the bigs as legit catchers, then they’ll figure it out then. It’s a good problem to have.

    • A.D.

      Obv I’m not mike, but you can always move montero, they can commit to Romine all they want, it doesn’t mean he’ll pan out, and there’s no reason to move Montero and essentially count on a 19 year old who has played one year of A ball to become an everyday major league catcher

  • UWS

    Ryan Dempster, ladies and gentlemen.

    • Ivan

      guess he won’t be a yankee next season.

      • UWS

        Took the words out of my mouth (keyboard?).

  • Ivan

    James Loney Grand Salami.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Wow. James Loney FTW.

  • Steve

    Amazing. They really are cursed.

    . . . . . or when a pitcher walks 7 guys, sooner or later something bad is going to happen.

    . . . . nah, they’re cursed.

    • Ivan

      Nah Dempster just stunk up the joint.

      As for the curse, well I never really believe in curses with the cubs or the Sox. The one time I kinda believe it was in 03 in the infamous “Steve Bartman” game. That game was one of those “OMG, God hate the cubs”

      • A.D.

        that was a pretty cursed moment

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          If Moises Alou shuts his trap and goes back to LF, no one ever knows who Bartman is. That poor guy went through hell.

          • Ivan

            Plus, it wasn’t the guy fault at all. It was the SS Gonzalez who ruin that inning with the error which was a taylor made DP ball, that and Farnsworth just sucking ass and Dusty.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              And that was only Game 6. The Cubbies had their chance in Game 7.

              • Steve

                Any team whose margin of error is so small that one play will decide an entire series wasn’t all that good to begin with.

  • A.D.

    how many pitches did Dempster have?

    • UWS

      105-ish?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      109 total, only 57 strikes.

      • A.D.

        yikes

  • A.D.

    ohh Soriano on the slider

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Three straight sliders away. Heh, now they’re booing Soriano.

  • Ivan

    Wow it is amazing that Soriano K’s on the same pitch over and over and over. It’s like clock work.

  • A.D.

    Not a gritty play by Blake there, he’s a gamer, he’ll do something insignificant and random later in game and someone will say how he made up from the error

  • Ivan

    While Cano plate disipline isn’t good, it’s better than Soriano.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Fukudome is my homey.

    • Ivan

      You like Fukudome?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Nah, but the phrase is fun to say.

        • Steve

          I always thought it was pronounced “Fuck-you-dummy”.

          Or at least that’s what Japanese tell me when I try to say his name . .. .

  • Manimal

    about 45 milliseconds after he hit the Grand slam my mom changed the channel. Wicked cool.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Okay, I have no idea who the hell Caliendo is supposed to be this year. Last year it was easy to recognize the impersonations, but this year not so much.

    • Steve

      The asshole with the parted hair is supposed to be Trump.

  • A.D.

    Wow they get a Frank Caliendo ad in and its for DirectTV. Someone at TBS probably got promoted for that

  • Ivan

    Can I ask ya a question, if Caliendo didn’t have his trademark impersonations, would he be considered funny?

    • Steve

      Let me ask you a question. If Jim Carrey couldn’t do those outrageous gyrations with his face and body would he be funny? Or Kramer from Seinfeld? Or Jim Brewer?

      • Ivan

        No no no, Jim Carey had alot more talent than Caliendo. I admit you do have a point though but Carey is alot funnier though.

        • Steve

          Fine. You like Carrey, substitute late 70’s-early 80’s Robin Williams.

          Point being, its a style of comedy and there’s nothing wrong with it. If it makes people laugh, it works. Everybody isn’t George Carlin or Mitch Hedberg.

          • E-ROC

            God bless George Carlin’s soul. He was one of my favorite comedians.

            • Steve

              Me too.

          • Ivan

            I always like Robin Williams.

            George Carlin is a legend although his jokes weren’t great as he got older.

            • E-ROC

              I always thought Robin Williams was suppose to be black.

              • Ivan

                lol why?

            • Steve

              He had his ups and downs late in his career, but if you’ve ever done any creative/comedy writing you would know that he was one of the greatest comedians of all time. On another level from even some of the best of his day. What Manny Ramirez was with a bat in his hand, Carlin was as a comedian.

              Talk to comedians and they’ll tell you he influenced most of them. Him, Pryor and Lenny Bruce.

              • Ivan

                I wasn’t dissing him, I know he was amazing as a comic.

    • steve (different one)

      i think this is a trick question. he is not considered funny with his impersonations.

      • Steve

        I’ve heard him kill on radio shows, so I know he can be funny in the right environment.

        Its tough to be funny in 10 seconds or less. I can’t say I’ve seen his TV show, and no I don’t find the commercials all that funny. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t a good stand up. Some great stand ups never do well on TV for a zillion reasons.

        • steve (different one)

          yeah, i’m just being a smartass. i only know the commercials. which suck.

          those commercials last year, especialy during the Joba bug game, drove me up a wall (go figure).

  • UWS

    Cubs pitchers apparently have a severe strike zone phobia. WTF?

  • E-ROC

    Derek Lowe, a future Yankee?

    • Manimal

      depends. Most likely yes.

  • Ivan

    Lowe putting up a good audition for the yanks.

    • Steve

      No thanks.

      How soon we all forget he was booted out of Boston’s rotation in 04. I know he had a great post season, but he was hideous the last year he was in the AL East, and he’ll be 36.

      The Yanks have said they want guys with AL experience. He has it, but it was too long ago and he’s too much older now.

  • 27’Yanks

    How much do you think it would take the Steinbrenners to get the Yanks moved to the NL? They would be in the WS every year

  • http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/burressDM0402_468x305.jpg Nady Nation

    Edmonds as a stopgap CF next year? Good D, serviceable bat

    • E-ROC

      Mike Cameron is my guy, provided the Brewers don’t pick up his option.

      • steve (different one)

        i think they will though.

        even if they pick it up just to trade him, i think they’d get something decent back.

      • http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/burressDM0402_468x305.jpg Nady Nation

        I’d prefer him too, I’m just saying as a possibility

      • Ivan

        Word. Terrific fit for the yanks.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Too many injury concerns. He can break down at any second.

      In other words, he’d fit right in.

      • http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/burressDM0402_468x305.jpg Nady Nation

        Yea, you’re probably right. I was just thinking from the aspect of an older guy who’d be willing to take a short term deal with a good glove.

  • Steve

    Manny goes boom!!!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    How the hell did Manny hit that pitch out? It was practically at his shoe tops.

    • UWS

      Somewhere in Pennsylvania, Mike Mussina just experienced a flashback.

      • Steve

        Something tells me Mike isn’t watching this game.

        I picture him at home doing something nerdy, like dressed up as Captain Kirk playing “Flight Simulator” on his computer.

    • Steve

      Manny has been eating good breaking pitches forever.

      He especially likes them now that his bat is slower and he can’t hit tough righties as well anymore.

      • Ivan

        He’s been considered the best breaking ball hitter from the right side for years whether it’s Cle or Bos. I always felt to try get manny out was to challege him with high fastballs. Much easier said than done.

  • E-ROC

    How in the blue hell did Manny hit that homerun? That shit was at his ankles.

  • E-ROC

    Oh wait, I know how Manny hit that homerun: Joe Torre magic.

  • Manimal

    With talent like that, who gives a fuck Manny is GOOD.

  • Ivan

    Manny Ramirez is amazing. That dude is fun to watch to hit and he’s gangsta with the way he carries himself.

    • Manimal

      fun to watch when hes not on your team*

  • E-ROC

    The sound in Wrigley is deafening. “The sky is falling” is probably the feeling that the fans have, which will probably rub off on the players.

    • Steve

      I think Pinella is such a cocky bastard that he will keep his players from getting down. Not just cocky, Pinella’s much smarter than he gets credit for.

  • E-ROC

    Does anyone like the new Knight Rider series? The concept seems a bit dull, but that damn car, Mustang Cobra is off the chain.

    • Steve

      Is a talking car considered high tech anymore?

      • E-ROC

        I don’t know………………maybe.

      • steve (different one)

        only if it has a fey british accent

  • Manimal

    If Joba Chamberlain wasn’t an athlete he would look Identical to Frank Caliendo

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      The guy from Harold and Kumar did a better George Bush.

      • Manimal

        The guy in W looks wicked good.

  • E-ROC

    Cal Ripken looks like he can still take a couple of grounders at the hot corner.

  • Ivan

    After reading the quotes, and thinking about it, it was really a no brainer that Cashman was coming back. Knowing his personality, and being Loyal, he didn’t want leave the yanks in flux, and he cares about his legacy a great deal. Most of all, he really want to win a WS with HIS players. That’s why he didn’t trade Hughes for Johan and etc. He wanted to create a product that was 100% his and win with it. Alot of ways, this is personal to him. Like he’s on a mission to prove something.

  • E-ROC

    In case ya’ll get bored with the game, here is a discussion question that I completed yesterday for homework:

    Post your response to the following discussion question by clicking on Reply. Your response should be between 200-300 words.

    What is the role of marketing in sports today? What is the value of sport marketing? Taking into account different levels of sports—including recreational, high school, intercollegiate, and professional—what would these sports look like without sport marketing? What benefits does marketing provide for these organizations? Are there drawbacks to sport marketing?

    • Steve

      Wow, and I thought the game was boring.

      • E-ROC

        Yeah, I know. Trying to come up with 200-300 was tough. I put some BS in my answer, so that helped.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    OMG where’s the grit Casey Blake?

  • Mike R.

    Full disclosure. My comment is only loosly related to the game. This could be crazy, I just don’t see why. Is there any chance we could sign Furcal to play CF next year?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Why though? Who knows how he’ll play out there.

      • Mike R.

        I think that the athleticism and ability to read the ball off the bat would translate well.

    • UWS

      Because he’ll want a boatload of cash and a long-ass contract, don’t forget his agent is Scott Boras. Plus what makes you think he’d want to move off SS?

      Plus what makes you think he’d be any good out there?

  • Ivan

    Man Bronxton is nasty.

    • E-ROC

      His arm is still attached which is always a good thing.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        He threw under 70 innings this year. Torre didn’t abuse him.

        • Ivan

          Proctor didn’t have that same faith.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Routine fly power for Edmonds these days.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Why do I continually get agitated by the crap?

    I want to win NOW. Not five years from now.

    Fucking LoHud.

  • Ivan
    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      Travis Henry got caught selling blow.

      • Ivan

        WOW. Who the fuck he think he is, Frank Lucas.

        Didn’t Jamal Lewis was arrested for drug traffiking years back.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Ray Lewis killed a guy.

          • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

            He’s a competitor. He’s fiery. It’s all cool in the eyes of public opinion (God, I wish this was a joke…).

          • Ivan

            and Lenard little killed somebody in a hit and run.

            You know PETA have no problem with Lewis or Little, cuz all they did was harm other people unlike Vick.

            • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

              Man, fuck PETA. Let one of those bastards try to throw paint on my coat.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        He’s got 9 kids to feed. Can’t blame ‘em.

        • Ivan

          Well at least he has a better excuse unlike Latrell “I can’t feed my family with over 24 Million dollars” Spreewell.

  • Manimal
    • Manimal

      sorry, didnt type anything. Ochocinco thinks Slumpbusting and alchohol will help the bengals. WOW.

  • Ivan

    Yo this game sucks.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Greg Maddux coming on in relief. It’d be awesome if he was their closer this postseason.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Wow, he’s getting up to 86 out of the pen.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Torre is outmanaging Pinella.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ent-556553

    This is the exact reason why I am rooting against the Dodgers. I can’t take crap like this. Torre is “outmanaging” the Dodgers? How? By picking his spots on when to tell his players to swing for the fences? Is he guiding the ball into the stands? Assholes.

    • UWS

      Jamal, spare yourself. You only have so many brain cells to burn, but human idiocy is limitless.

    • Steve

      Why do you care so much what some dope posts on a message board or fan site?

  • Steve

    Maddux doing garbage time. One of the greatest pitchers who ever lived, in his prime he was comparable to Pedro at his best.

    Time to hang em up, Greg.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Heh, my friend just sent me this text message:

    Is it weird when your hand soap smells worst than the scent you are trying to wash off?

    Always good to have interesting friends.

  • Steve

    * The biggest thing that came out of it, I thought, was how combative Cashman was.

    “For a long time, we’ve been old and everybody knows it, right?” Cashman said. “For a long time people have pointed it out. So now when you start to fix it, people are ‘Oh my God, you missed the playoffs.’ Off with his head, right? That’s fair, that’s fine, that’s part of this town. I accept it. I’m not running from it.

    “I care about my name and I care about how I’m perceived and I care about this franchise. I need everybody that works for me who feels the same way to pull in the same direction. If I wanted something easy, I could do a hell of a lot of other things than run the Yankees.”

    He’s right about that. I know some people disagree with me, but I think Cash is the right man for the job. When I covered college basketball, coaches used to say they wanted to build a program, not just one team. That’s what the Yankees need to do. They need think about being good for 10 years, not one.”
    -LoHud

    Just when I’m ready to give up on Peter, he writes something like this.

    Nice work, Pedro.

  • Ivan

    Are we doing another game thread?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Yep, it’ll be up in a sec.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

    But any flak Cashman would have gotten for being affiliated with Burgos will be minimal compared to the subtextual racist bullshit Minaya will get for bringing another “bad character Latin player” into the organization.