Oct
02

NLDS Game 2: Brewers @ Phillies

By Mike Axisa

This is a game that should pique the interest of many Yankees’ fans, and it’s all because of that big cuddly guy to the right. Making his fifth start in the last 17 freaking days, CC’s looking to give the Brewers’ their first playoff win since October 17th, 1982, exactly 13 days before this blogger’s first birthday.

The Phils will throw Brett Myers, who’s got a 6.93 ERA in his last 4 starts. A Brewers’ win ties the series up at one apiece, a loss and you might see CC taking the hill again in Game 3 on Saturday (I’m only half-joking).

The game starts right about now, and if you want some Yankees’ related content, check out iYankees case for Mark Teixeira.

Lineups:

Bark twice if you’re in Milwaukee
1. Mike Cameron, CF
2. Ray Durham, 2B
3. Ryan “The Hebrew Hammer” Braun, LF
4. Prince Fielder, 1B
5. JJ Hardy, SS
6. Corey Hart, RF
7. Craig Counsell, 3B
8. Jason Kendall, C
9. C(ha)C(hing) Sabathia, P

Philadelphia
1. Jimmy Rollins, SS
2. Shane Victorino, CF
3. Chase Utley, 2B
4. Ryan Howard, 1B
5. Pat the Bat Burrell, LF
6. Jayson Werth, RF
7. Pedro Feliz, 3B
8. Carlos Ruiz, C
9. Brett Myers, P

Posted on Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 5:56 pm in Game Threads.

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Peedlum says:

Man, if there’s one thing that’s good about the Yankees not being in the post-season its not having to listen to Michael Kay anymore—-But wait, no such luck! He’s on espn radio for the Phillies-Brewers game. If Suzyn Waldman’s on for the Dodgers and Cubs I’ll have to go light myself on fire.

 
E-ROC says:

Given that Brett Myers is on the mound, CC Sabathia will probably hit a homer or two. The Brewers will probably win this game.

 
Jamal G. says:

Corey Hart is not the most intelligent hitter, is he?

Mike A. says:

He’s in a major slump. OPS’ing like, .300 since August.

 
 

Man, you are old!!!!

 
Jeremy says:

My goodness it’s fun to watch CC bat.

 
Ivan says:

Wow CC walked the pitcher.

 
Ivan says:

It seem the workload have affected his playoff starts.

 
Mike Pop says:
 
Mike Pop says:
 
Ivan says:

Command is the first thing you lose when ya arm is tired. CC just looks winded.

 
gg says:

Yo, this might be ridiculous but O-Dog is fast and has a good glove, anyway he could be signed to play center???

Mike Pop says:

Id have to say no and i saw this on the holliday post a minute ago lol.. your dying for an answer

 
Ben K. says:

Don’t repost the same thing in two different threads.

 
 
Ben K. says:

I turn on the radio to listen to the game while I shower and Michael Kay is on the air. I can’t escape him.

Mike Pop says:

He’s better than Harold Reynolds

Peedlum says:

he’s really not. reynolds is a mumbling stumbling fuck, but he’s a lot more knowledgeable than kay.

 
 
 
Mike Pop says:

Ben how do you feel bout Texiera, you really think the yanks should sign him ?

Ben K. says:

See this thread.

In a nutshell, yes as long as the years are right.

Mike Pop says:
Mike A. says:

Tex is the safer bet, but they need CC more.

Ivan says:

And you go for the bold move over the safe one right.

 
 
 
Ben K. says:

I don’t see the need to pick one. The Yanks have the financial resources and the need to sign both. Why pick if we don’t need to?

Mike Pop says:

Wow didnt expect hearing that from you guys who run the site sayin how important draft picks are and what not.. but to mention olney on his insider said that he sees the yankee payroll around 180 mill for next year so whats that 25 mill or so less

Mike Pop says:

and maybe signing one would attract the other one to come to the team more.. ala lilly/soriano

 
 
 
 
 
 
Mike Pop says:

CC’s stock is falling now eh ?

Mike A. says:
Mike Pop says:

You don’t think teams are gonna be discouraged by this performance ?

Mike A. says:

As soon as he hits the free agent market, they’ll forget all about it. It’s one start.

 
 
 
 
Mike A. says:

CC’s thrown over 500 pitches in the last 2 weeks.

 
Bill N says:

This couldn’t be going any better for the Phils

 
Jamal G. says:

Over/Under on articles-that-will-be-written-about-C.C.-Sabathia-not-being-able-to-handle-the-N.Y.-pressure-because-of-his-postseason-failures-thus-far will be set at four (local).

Mike A. says:

I’ll set it at … 3.5. Aaaaaaaand GO!!!

Jamal G. says:

Yeah, meant 4.5, but you get the point.

I’m really going to keep track.

 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Did that fucking kid just fucking catch that fucking ball in his fucking hat? Damn yo.

 
Jamal G. says:

Heh, the LoHud readers are tearing into Pete for whining about Joe Girardi’s relationship with the media. Yes, again.

Ivan says:

Wow even the moronic LoHud readers know the deal between Peter and Girardi.

 
Mike A. says:

Well, Girardi keeps giving Pete fuel.

 
 
Ivan says:

You know your president was REALLY bad, when they make movies like W. to show how bad he was. Usually when they make movies about presidents, is to show how good the president was. Not with the movie W.

The Honorable Congressman Mondesi says:

There are probably more movies about presidents that don’t show them in the best light than you realize… I got Nixon and Primary Colors off the top of my head.

 
 
Bill N says:
 
Mike A. says:

I can’t help but feel bad for CC. That dude gave the Brewers everything he had, and then some. People talk about needing gamers, well there’s one right there.

Ivan says:

Word. Normally we joke about the words gritty and etc, but that was some serious grit right there, considering he was putting his career in stake and of course financially.

 
 
Ivan says:

I do think the yanks rotation is gonna be solid if not very good especially if they add a pitcher. Consider this:

FA (hopefully CC but Im not gonna hold my breathe to see if he’s coming)

CMW (So much for people calling him overrated and not an Ace)

Joba (Just fucking Sick, might be the 09 ace after the season is over)

Hughes (I think he will bounce back huge, to talented to struggle like that)

Pettitte (You know ya rotation is good, when pettitte is ya 5th starter)

Tell me that’s not a top 3 Rotation in baseball. At least potentially.

 
Bill N says:

Just asking me and my buddies where talking at the bar the other day, do you think its wrong to have a favorite A.L. Team and a favorite N.L. Team

Mike A. says:

Nah, not at all. I’ll admit to be a Padres’ fan, couldn’t help but fall in love with the team when I lived there. Obviously I’m far more loyal to the Yanks, but there’s nothing wrong with having a B Team.

If the Yanks and Pads played in the WS again, I’d be all Yanks.

Ivan says:

Yeah,

The Yankees are your wifey, your #1 gurl.

And I guess the Pads is your mistress.

Mike A. says:

I’d say they’re more like internet porn, but I hear ya.

;)

 
 
 
Jamal G. says:

I love the Yankees, Athletics and Marlins, respectively. I have no idea why I’ve always been a fan of the A’s, but I have. I’m a big Marlins’ fan because of Hanley Ramirez. He’s my favorite player in baseball, and I’m also a sucker for the young guns. And damn, do the Fish have some young arms.

 
 
Bill N says:

I agree Mike . I love the Yanks, my Dad is the reason, but since living in Philly I can’t help but to have a soft spot for them…. well that and my utter most hatred of the mets

Ivan says:

Why you hate the mets?

 
 
gg says:

mine would have to be dbacks, boy if we had some of their pieces

 
Mike A. says:

Heh. I remember when Seth McClung was on the D-Rays, one game the SP matchup was CMW and McClung, and Cliff at BBanter titled his game thread “Every body Wang McClung tonight.”

I still laugh at that to this day.

 
Jamal G. says:

I was just thinking, if you put together an All 2000-2008 team, you could reasonably put Alex Rodriguez, Jorge Posada, Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera on the squad.

I’m just thinking off the top of my head, but has there been a better offensive producer behind the dish, in the past nine seasons, than JoPo?

Rodriguez has played more seasons at Third Base (five, 2004-2008) than he has at Short Stop (four, 200-2003) in this time-frame. However, Chipper Jones has played seven seasons (2002 and 2003 he mainly played in Left Field) to ARod’s five, so I can’t dis’ Chipper like that.

I really can’t think of any other Short Stop that has produced to the offense levels of Derek Jeter in the past nine years, like, well, Jeter has. As for Mariano Rivera, well the conversation for best closer ends when his that final syllable is spoken.

So what would your All 2000-2008 squad look like?

C – Jorge Posada
1B – Albert Pujols
2B – Jeff Kent
3B – Chipper Jones
SS – Derek Jeter
OF – Manny Ramirez
OF – Barry Bonds
OF – Vladimir Guerrero

SP – Pedro Martinez
SP – Roy Halladay
RP – Mariano Rivera

So how you guys like the list? I know some guys did not play full seasons from 2000-2008, but they did for the very most part. You know what’s interesting, if you included a slot for a Designated Hitter, Jason Giambi could very well be the best.

Mike A. says:

I’m just thinking off the top of my head, but has there been a better offensive producer behind the dish, in the past nine seasons, than JoPo?

Mike Piazza says hi.

Jamal G. says:

Oh jeez, I totally whiffed on that one.

Why does it seem that every time you do one of these lists, you always seem to forget one obvious guy?

 
 
 
Ivan says:

Hey guys my friend ask me this question and Im gonna ask ya this.

What would you choose,

Have great sex with Jessica Alba or any of your fav chick or Have homeplate tickets To the WS in yankee stadium between the Yanks and Dodgers?

pat says:

tickets, they would give me enjoyment for more than 30 seconds.. on a good night

Mike A. says:

And that includes getting dressed afterwards.

Seriously, give me Alba. I’ve been to playoff games at the Stadium, and I’ve sat behind home plate. While both are excellent, dude, it’s Jessica Alba.

pat says:

ADDENDUM- if not jessica alba then who? I’ve always had an uber crush on salma hayek but now shes my #1 milf

Mike A. says:

Alba would be my first, second and third choices. After her, I’d probably go Elisha Cuthbert or Megan Fox.

Jamal G. says:
pat says:

alessandra ambrosio

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A.D. says:

With the 2nd seat you could probably woo some sexy check that isn’t a celeb but gorgeous

 
pat says:

Austin Jacksons unsound running thing im pretty sure comes from BA’s Eastern League top 20:
(this is basically heresay from another board, but it sounds like such bullshit I have no doubt it was printed somewhere)
Lars Anderson was ranked number 4 in the Eastern league.

About Jackson according to Baseball America several managers cited hin as one of the leagues most feared club hitters while accknowledging his tools which grade out as average accross the board.

While the former Georgia Tech Basketball recruit has obvious atheleticism he isnt a classic five-tool player who makes it all look easy.

Observers disagree about his runnibng speed one scout call him fringe average with poor running mechanics, some scouts consider Jackson a tweener while others believe he a solid center fielder with average speed and average to plus arm.

He has a flair for the dramatic. Portland Manager Arnie Beyeler said. He makes every big play and gets every big hit. If he’s a tweeener give me three of them for my outfield and I’ll win

 
 
 
Jamal G. says:

I look at it like I’m doing a fantasy draft. Which option has the bigger drop-off? There’s no way the drop-off from watching a postseason game behind home plate to watching it on the tube can compare to the drop-off of having relations (heh, I enjoy saying it like that.) with Jessica Alba to being with some regular chic.

 
 
Rob says:

Why does it seem like CC is the A-Rod of playoff pitchers? Sure, it could be the workload, but look at how he finished last and this year. He was solid, if not spectacular. Then he gets to the playoffs and stinks the joint up. Especially worrisome is he loses his control – in 24 career post-season innings (yes, small sample!) he now has 22 bb’s against 24 k’s. I gotta say – that’s very worrisome for a guy who will demand a big fat contract.

Sure, explain it away as the recent workload. But he was pitching fine for the last month. Just like the last month in 2007. And his best month of his career monthly splits is September.

Jamal G. says:

I’m counting this as one of those articles.

TheLastClown says:

maybe as .25 of one

 
 
Ivan says:

The guy was pitching every three days. He had a bad game, what ya gonna do. Without him, the Brewers don’t sniff the playoffs.

TheLastClown says:

And what’s worse is, if they can win game 3, they’ll probably trot him back out there in relief for game 4 on 2 days.

A.D. says:

I’d guess they have him to pitch game 5

TheLastClown says:

Yeah in logical “don’t overtax your pitcher far over reasonable bounds” world.

 
 
 
Rob says:

Sure, but all of his playoff games have been average or “bad”. His career ERA in September? 2.77 ERA. It’s looking like he can handle the workload but the pressure.

Again look at that post-season bb:k. He just loses it.

Rob says:

D’oh, meant: handle the workload but *not* the pressure.

 
 
 
Mike A. says:

He was solid, if not spectacular.

EPIC UNDERSTATEMENT FAIL

Rob says:

That was referring to his month of September. Some spectacular outings, some solid ones.

 
 
 
Mike A. says:

Come on Camy. That’s all you baby.

 
pat says:

mike cameron WISHES he could field like austin”unsound running mechanics” jackson

A.D. says:

AJax has unsound running mechanics.

And also what does Cole’s dad do? I keep seeing the remarks

Ivan says:

Seriously, Where does the unsound running mechanics come from?

A.D. says:

thats what i want to know??, did BA have another article bringing him down?

 
 
 
Ivan says:

He’s so uninspiring that Austin fellow.

 
 
Bill N says:

Ivan,
I hate the mets for no one specific reason. They are just one of those teams.

 
 
Jamal G. says:

Wait for it…wait for it…and boom goes the dynamite.

Heh, I’ve been saying that to myself all week. Just doesn’t stop being funny.

Ivan says:

Im not a Meteorologist, but it looks like it’s raining bitches.

 
 
Mike Pop says:

CC dissapointed the brew crews fans tonight but they still gotta love em no doubt the dude killed himself for them.. i really hope brewers come back and win a game or two tho i wanna see a good series and maybe CC pitch well for them in it

 
Mike A. says:

“My boys were like ‘what are you going to do with this extra coin?” And I was like ‘I’m rentin’ a clown.’”

Heh, those baby commercial always make me laugh.

 
Rob says:

Wow, I the playoff run was worth it, Brew-crew, cause LaPorta is going to be a monster.

 
Jamal G. says:

I always like seeing the ball roll along the edge of the stands in foul territory. There are very few opportunities when you get to witness a succession of failures in such a short time-span.

 
pat says:

Austin Jacksons unsound running thing im pretty sure comes from BA’s Eastern League top 20:
(this is basically heresay from another board, but it sounds like such bullshit I have no doubt it was printed somewhere)
Lars Anderson was ranked number 4 in the Eastern league.

About Jackson according to Baseball America several managers cited hin as one of the leagues most feared club hitters while accknowledging his tools which grade out as average accross the board.

While the former Georgia Tech Basketball recruit has obvious atheleticism he isnt a classic five-tool player who makes it all look easy.

Observers disagree about his runnibng speed one scout call him fringe average with poor running mechanics, some scouts consider Jackson a tweener while others believe he a solid center fielder with average speed and average to plus arm.

He has a flair for the dramatic. Portland Manager Arnie Beyeler said. He makes every big play and gets every big hit. If he’s a tweeener give me three of them for my outfield and I’ll win

pat says:

and i also think the Cole’s dad thing comes from that awesome journalist bill madden (any coincidence his initals are BM? his writing is basically a bowel movement)

The player development and scouting system in Tampa, which Cashman has led since George Steinbrenner gave him complete control of the baseball operations three years ago, continues to flounder. Those drafts that Cashman vowed to improve? So far only Joba Chamberlain (the 41st pick in 2006) looks like a real-deal winner. This year’s draft was a disaster, as the Yankees took pitchers with their first three picks. They failed to sign their No. 1, not realizing his father was a billionaire who wanted the kid to go to college; signed their No. 2 but admitted he’ll probably need Tommy John surgery and declined to sign their No. 3 because of his arm problems.

And, please, enough about Austin Jackson. The guy hit .285 with nine homers in Double-A ball – hardly superstar-in-the-making numbers.

No, the Yankees’ farm system has been a joke for more than a decade and now they are paying the price. The team has gotten old, but unlike the Red Sox and the Tampa Bay Rays ahead of them, there have been no replacements from the system and, other than two catchers, Austin Romine and Jesus Montero, at least three years away at Single-A Charleston, there’s nothing to get excited about.

Ivan says:

Why are you bringing in that garbade in here.

pat says:

haha im sorry just wanted to try and clear up where these “gerrit coles dad is an eccentric billionaire whos son drives a ferrari” rumors

 
 
Mike Pop says:

Go to a sox blog with that shit man

 
TheLastClown says:

What were Bernie’s AA numbers?

Ivan says:

Like .285 with only 8 Homers.

 
pat says:

.252 .381 .443 824 with 11HR and 42 rbi with a .974 fielding percentage

 
 
 
Ivan says:

Hey if he can be a big league regular and plays above average defense at a prenium position and walks at a soild clip, I’ll take it.

pat says:

i hate complaining about anti-yankee bias but that guy won the AA defensive player of the year for CF , yet he has marginal speed and bad running mechanics, how could that be freaking possible?

Ivan says:

Every prospect get nitpicked majority of the time especially when your a yankee.

 
 
 
 
Mike Pop says:

According to Steve different one.. Beltran is a superstar.. I dont beleive so. He is great, an all star but I dont beleive he is a superstar. He has hit over 300 twice in his career at 306 and 307. He has 263 hrs in 10 and than some seasons. He has 897 career rbis. Is he a superstar ? Your thoughts——-

Mike Pop says:

O career 281 average also forgot to mention that

 
Mike A. says:

He’s very good, but he’s not a superstar. Just gets paid like one. If tier 1 of superstardom is A-Rod, Pujols, Johan, Ichiro, Pedroia, then he’s in tier 2.

pat says:

pedroia already mikey? ur gonna give me agita with that. i think hes a very good ballplayer but already superstar status

Mike A. says:

It was a joke. And please don’t call me Mikey.

pat says:

my apologies Mr. Axisa

 
Ivan says:
 
TheLastClown says:

He’s southern, and just saying “Mike A”

Mike A. says:
Mike Pop says:

I agree. Beltran is in tier 2.. When I think of superstar he doesnt come to mind.. It is a great argument. Beltran is a great player with great defense and a great bat.. He is great but a superstar ?.. .I’d say not

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Ivan says:

Pedroia is a superstar?

 
Steve H says:

Ichiro over Beltran? No thanks.

 
steve (different one) says:

ok, just saw this.

basically you are just saying that your 1st tier is very very small. that’s fine. we just disagree on that.

but i will say this:

Beltran >> Ichiro

 
 
Ivan says:

Put it this way, he’s not even as good of a offensive player than Bernie Williams and Bernie Williams wasn’t a superstar.

TheLastClown says:

He’s a superstar to me

Ivan says:

Hey Bernie was was a terrific player and was tremendous but he wasn’t a superstar. If that was the case he be a first ballot HOFer. Not to diss Bernie I love the guy, but I wouldn’t put him in superstar level in his career.

TheLastClown says:

That’s why I qualified it with “to me”

Since I’m not involved in baseball-dom and have more emotional rather than scientific reasons for being a fan, I have my own “superstars”

Wasn’t looking to argue the point, but retire 51:)

 
steve (different one) says:

is that the definition of superstar, 1st ballot HoFer?

thats OK if it is. but i would say “regular” HoFers can be superstars as well and if Beltran keeps it up, he has a shot at the Hall of Fame.

he has a long way to go, but he could conceivably finish with 400+ HRs, 400+ steals, 2500+ hits….

that is a Hall of Fame resume for a CFer.

obviously the trick is keeping it up for another 5 years.

 
 
 
 
Steve H says:

Centerfield is a superstar position and I can’t name 3 CF’s I’d rather have. In the same way that New York/Boston/LA can make superstars out of non-superstart, I think they can also take way from someone’s classification if they are not perceived to be living up to expectations, which I think clouds judgement when it comes to Beltran.

 
 
Ivan says:

So I guess we forgot about the playoff game uh.

TheLastClown says:

So did the Brewers, back in the 2nd.

 
 
pat says:

wow jason kendall that was molinaesque

 
TheLastClown says:

Nice job gunning down Jimmy Rollins though

 
Mike Pop says:

Jeter a superstar ?

TheLastClown says:
 
Mike A. says:

Yeah, I think so. Not so much for production, just because of who he is.

Mike Pop says:

Ya man Captain of The New York Yankees !!!!

 
TheLastClown says:

Doesn’t he have more hits than anyone else since he came up?

Mike A. says:

By 163. Three of the four guys with the most hits since Opening Day ‘96 are on the Yanks.

http://tinyurl.com/3hsgdc

Mike Pop says:

WOW Johnny Damon he gets alot of AB’s I know but I would of never expected him.. I thought it might of been Bobby lol

 
 
 
 
 
TheLastClown says:

Lidge chokes in the 9th

TheLastClown says:

……and so much for that

 
 
Mike A. says:

Oh man, I might be able to get a game of NHL 09 in between games…

 
Steve H says:

Even a diehard Sox fan admits the media’s love for the Sox.

from Bill Simmons

“They even have good relationships with every relevant national writer, including Peter Gammons, the face of baseball for ESPN, a beloved figure in New England and a longtime friend of general manager Theo Epstein.”

 
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