NLDS Game 4: Phillies vs. Brewers

NLDS Game 3: Cubs @ Dodgers
Waikiki loses in a walk-off

We’ll have some Yankee content later, but with three playoff games on tap and the Giants set to play the Seahawks, baseball is far from the minds of New Yorkers. In an hour, the Phillies will try once again to advance in the playoffs for the first time since 1993. Joe Blanton faces Jeff Suppan. Feel free to turn this thread into an open thread. Nothing is taboo.

NLDS Game 3: Cubs @ Dodgers
Waikiki loses in a walk-off
  • Mike Pop

    Nady for Jair Jurrens ? Than use JAir as part of a package for a Peavy/Greinke etc ? Im thinkiing outside the box

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      There’s really no incentive for Atlanta to ever make that move. If you were the GM, would you trade a cost-controlled good young pitcher for one year of an average offensive outfielder?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        No, but I would trade Ian Kennedy for an everything bagel with cream cheese right about now.

        • Mike Pop

          Id trade Kennedy for Frenchy

  • E-ROC

    Looks like Curtis Granderson has a future in the broadcast booth.

  • Mike Pop

    Breew crew gonna win today 4 2

  • Steve

    From MLBTR

    “Buster Olney brings the rumors:

    If the Yankees want CC sabathia, they will not lose in any bidding war now that a new ballpark puts them in the position to “throw unlimited dollars” at cc. Unless cc wants to play in the nl, or avoid the media circus of new york city, Olney seems convinced the Yankees will land him.”

    Nothing earth shattering, but I trust Buster.

    • RollingWave

      he said just 3 days ago that the Yankees are on a 189m budget

  • Tripp

    2 year deal for Abreu and then move him to first?

    • Steve

      If Bobby wants a 3 year deal, here’s what I would do.

      Hand him a pen and tell him to stand 20 ft from the RF wall. Put the contract up against the wall, and then tell him he has 2 seconds to sign it.

      If he signs it, he can stay.

      • zzzzz

        haha, wow!

  • Steve

    Looks like the BoSox will be involved in the Jake Peavey sweepstakes

    http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/72694

    Now the only question is are they serious, or just a stalking horse for the Yanks like they were for the Santana talks? They have Bucholtz (who’s stock has dropped) and a loaded farm system. If they really want him, I think they could trump our best offer.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I can’t, for the life of me figure out why San Diego would trade him. He’s signed below market value for the next FIVE years and just now entering his prime. Kevin Towers isn’t stupid, he’ll need to be blown away with an offer to deal Peavy, a package of ML ready players, not prospects in A or AA.

      • Steve

        A few reasons.

        -The owner is going through a messy divorce and wants the payroll below 50 mil for next year.
        -They tried to compete this year and were a HUGE disappointment on par with what happened in Seattle this year. They’re looking to blow it up and start over again with an eye toward 2010.
        -He’s not cheap past the 8 mil year. He’s guaranteed 52 mil (17 per) over the next 3 years with a 22 mil club option 2013 with a 4 mil buyout. That puts him among the highest paid pitchers in Baseball. Given how fragile pitching can be, 52 mil is a lot of guaranteed $$. Only Santana, Zito and Zambrano earn more.

        http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2000/05/most-lucrative-contracts.html

        If you don’t think you can win next year, it makes sense to sell now and get multiple pieces for when you will be ready in a year or two.

        • Miles Roche

          There is some mighty fine reasoning here.

          • Steve

            I’m good looking, too.

            • Miles Roche

              Okay, so as a straight person, how am i supposed to take it? ;-)

  • Steve

    I’m not buying this trade talk for McLouth. For one thing, Cano is guaranteed 26 mil over the next 3 years (almost 9 per) so the Pirates wont want him. You keep hearing the Pirates want Hughes, and that’s not happening.

    Also, if the Yanks trade for McLouth that would tell me that they don’t really like A-Jax as much as they claim, or that they will move McLouth to LF in 2010 and think Gardner is a safe bet to be the future CF. Neither of which I buy.

    BTW-Can you imagine an OF with Gardner AND A-Jax in it? Talk about getting younger and more athletic. That would have range on par with the Rays. You wouldn’t even need a RF, play an extra guy in the infield or something. Play someone up the middle, shaded towards Jeter. He could use the help.

    (John Sterling voice) Imagine all the double plays we’d turn with that infield. Whoa!

    • Steve

      EDIT-A-Jax/Gardner is a safe bet to be the future CF.

    • Ivan

      Didn’t McClouth had like a 90 OPS+ in the second half?

      Overall Im not a huge fan of his, considering he’s really not a true CF and I question if he’s truly a very good offensive player and if this season was a career year.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Jeff Suppan obviously can pitch in the playoffs. Look at those numbers.

    • Ivan

      Met fans know that already.

    • Mike Pop

      Ya but not today

  • Steve

    Here’s the Buster Onley piece on Peavey

    “Jake Peavy, Padres: He won the 2007 Cy Young Award and posted a solid 10-11 record with a 2.85 ERA and 166 strikeouts in 173 2/3 innings this season. He is under contract for the next four seasons, at salaries of $8 million, $15 million, $16 million and $17 million (with a $22 million option for 2013). But he has become increasingly vocal in his frustration with the Padres, and with the team reducing its payroll to something in the neighborhood of $50 million this year, Peavy’s salary will increasingly become top-heavy within the San Diego budget. General manager Kevin Towers has been quoted as saying the Padres have no untouchable players, and there are executives who say they think Peavy could be taken for the right package of prospects. Peavy has a full no-trade clause and would have to agree to any deal.”

    • Ivan

      Be fair, it’s ginna take a mind blowing package to get Peavy.

      Plus, Peavy with his iffy record in the postseason and pitching in a weak division and the best pitching ballpark, I wonder would he fit here with the yanks.

      • Steve

        I think it starts with Hughes and IPK. I dont think it will take any other top prospects, though. Hughes as the centerpiece and you go from there. Both Hughes and IPK are from California, and IPK is legendary at USC. Towers might value that package over all others.

        But don’t forget that contract. 60 mil for 4 years is a lot of money for a pitcher, and after the first year it puts him in the top 4 highest paid pitchers in all of Baseball. That will limit the teams that bid on him to the major market clubs that need pitching. Cubs, White Sox, Yanks, and . . .

        Do the Red Sox really need a top of the rotation starter? They have Beckett, and Lester is emerging as one. The Angels or Dodgers? Not really. The Angels are loaded with young pitching and the Dodgers are in the Padres division. I’m sure Theo will bid to drive up the price, but I dont see a big need there.

        • Ivan

          They also will want A-Jax in that deal too. Padres are in a need for young OF who play D especially in that park and Reliever (Melancon) to replace for Trever Hoffman who might leave.

          Again, that’s alot, and trades like that can set up a franchise for ten seasons. Persoanlly I wouldn’t do, cuz that’s just too much for one guy especially for a pitcher who has some red flags.

          • Steve

            You’re right about them needing an OFer. Maybe I swallow hard and include Gardner, but at A-Jax I walk away. And there’s no way I include Melancon in any package. We have plenty of other good bullpen arms to offer and I’m not giving up Melancon or Sanchez.

            Hughes, IPK, Gardner and Robertson/Edwar/Cox

            Thats my final offer. Anything higher and I walk away.

            • Mike Pop

              You will be walking away cuz that won’t get it done

              • Steve

                Maybe, maybe not. It will all depend on what the other offers on the table are. You just have to have the best offer on the table.

                For you to make that statement, you need to tell me how the White Sox or Cubs will offer more. And whether or not the Red Sox will be serious bidders, and why.

                • Mike Pop

                  Ok Bowden Buchholz and Anderson plus 1 more scrub type.

                • Steve

                  The Sox would be nuts to do that. That would leave them with zero depth in their rotation and no future 1B to replace Lowell (Youkilis moves back to 3b).

                  But as I’ve said before if they want to, the Sox can trump our best offer.

              • Ivan

                Exactly.

        • Mike Pop

          Peavy would be nice but Id be sick to give up 6 or 7 guys for him

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Here’s the thing though, if the Yanks pick up all the money left on his deal (I think I saw someone say it was around $53M), then they shouldn’t have to give up as many players.

            Last winter it was trade 4 young players for 1yr of Johan and a small negotiating window. This year it’s X players for Peavy and his contract through 2013. They wouldn’t have to sign Peavy to an extension after the trade and pay him essentially like a free agent.

            • Mike Pop

              What would you give up for him ? I hate to give up Hughes because I think hes gonna be great but who knows if he will ever reach Peavy’s level

            • Steve

              Its 8, 15, 16, 17 and then a 22 mil club option in 2013 with a 4 mil buyout. Thats a grand total of 56 mil guaranteed, which is a lot for a pitcher.

              I think that will limit the number of serious bidders, but if the Red Sox really want him, they can trump our best offer.

  • Ivan

    Yo Don Cooper CWS pitching coach has an extreme brooklyn accent.

  • Mike Pop

    Pc Milwaukee

  • Mike Pop

    Cmon Milwaukee show some fight

  • Mike Pop

    CC can DH for us if that gives us a better chance of signing him =0

  • E-ROC

    The Peavy rumors make for a great off-season. I wouldn’t do the trade because it fills one hole and creates many others, which I don’t think the Yanks can afford to have.

  • http://www.pinstripeprospectus.com Austin

    Why would you want the Brewers to win? It only means they will continue to abuse Sabathia’s arm.

  • Mike Pop

    BLanton is a big game pitcher…….

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Yovani Gallardo will never be a successful big leaguer, he’s only throwing 90mph.

    • Ivan

      B-U-S-T, Bust.

    • Mike Pop

      If he was in NY thats what theyd be saying right now lol

  • Ivan

    Hey Mike,

    Who would ya take, Gallardo or Buchholz?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I don’t think I can answer that. I love Gallardo’s total package and hate Buchholz just on principle. Buchholz has better stuff for sure, but Gallardo’s younger and is one aggressive mofo. Plus he isn’t a theif.

      • Ivan

        Wow you hate Buchholz like that.

  • Ivan

    One of my All-Time favorite pitchers John Smoltz. That dude was amazing, had the best slider from the right side I,ve seen.

  • Ivan

    It’s about time the Brewers scored a run.

  • Ivan

    It’s amazing how good pitching in the postseason can expose hitters like Soriano Hart and even Kendrick.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Man, I FINALLY got a good game out of a running back in fantasy.

  • Ivan

    Is it me, or has Ryan Howard D has improve? Cuz everytime I see him play, he looks pretty solid at 1st base.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      His defense is Playoff Clutch™, that’s the best kind.

  • Steve

    More Jake Peavey goodness, from MLBTR. Ken Davidoff weighs in

    “Yankees Eyeing Peavy?
    By Nat Boyle [October 5, 2008 at 12:09pm CST]

    There’s a lot being made of the Yankees signing CC Sabathia, but as Ken Davidoff of Newsday.com asks, “Whom would you rather have? CC Sabathia for six years and $150 million? Or Jake Peavy for four years and $63 million?” Buster Olney reported on this possibility recently. Davidoff reports:

    “Peavy’s agent, Barry Axelrod, who lives in the San Diego area and is very friendly with Towers, said: “My guess is, unless somebody knocks their socks off this offseason, I don’t expect that Jake will be moved. I would think that starting the middle of next year and into the next offseason, there could be a significant possibility of Jake being moved” because of Peavy’s significant raise from 2009 to 2010.”

    Peavy would need to approve a trade and it’s not sure thing he’d want to go to New York. On whether, Peavy is seeking a trade at all, Davidoff quotes Peavy:

    “‘I want to be here, but I want to be here with a chance to win a World Series. If someone says, ‘Hey, we’re going to rebuild, that’s not going to be our top priority,’ you certainly would wonder what your other options are.'” ”

    Looks like he could stay put until next year’s trading deadline, although I still think he will go this off season. He’ll fetch more if you trade him now, and the Padres won’t be competing for anything next year.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That’s another thing, he’s signed pretty cheap for 2009. They might as well keep him, see what they can get for him at the deadline, and if they don’t like it they can always trade him next offseason.

      • Steve

        True, but you’ll get more if you deal him now. Haren was signed cheap, and Beane decided he wasn’t going anywhere in 08, so he dealt him. The longer you wait, the less he’s worth.

        Plus, as a pitcher you never know if he gets hurt. Then you’ll REALLY be kicking yourself for hanging on to him, especially for a year where you were nowhere near contending.

        • Mike Pop

          I doubt Cash is gonna sell the farm for this guy

  • Mike Pop

    Wow Peyton is clutch

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    CC’s arm just let out a big “PHEW!”

    • Ivan

      So did his Agent.

  • cupz

    Is there any chance that we could get Greinke without giving up anyone too serious (no Phil/Ajax)?

    Gardner/AAA pitcher/Melky/ Bullpen arm or Matsui (I know he has a no-trade) w/ the salary eaten up? Throw Duncan in?

    I think Greinke would be a solid #3 on the Yanks if we could get him. Peavy would be a bit too expensive ( and rightly so), and I don’t want to let go of Hughes.

  • kgSturnz0r17

    idk, withough jackson or hughes.. or jesus or dellin:

    Zmac, Gardner is a good start