Comments on: Ortiz, A-Rod know the vagaries of fandom http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:17:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Marcus http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/#comment-182614 Marcus Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:33:05 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5160#comment-182614 It's easy and simply put. Majority of fans suck. They rarely pay attention and barely remember anything of the past. The "What have you done for me lately?" crap is annoying. The media is sucked into it and the majority of fans, as well. Don't just start saying BOSTON fans suck. Most fans of every team suck in any sport. Get used to it. Never changing. It’s easy and simply put.

Majority of fans suck. They rarely pay attention and barely remember anything of the past.

The “What have you done for me lately?” crap is annoying. The media is sucked into it and the majority of fans, as well.

Don’t just start saying BOSTON fans suck. Most fans of every team suck in any sport. Get used to it. Never changing.

]]> By: BUCK FOSTON http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/#comment-182235 BUCK FOSTON Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:10:59 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5160#comment-182235 yeah and BOSTON fans suck...he's your guy Boston...Papi is nothing without his Manny...love seeing the long faces of beantowners... yeah and BOSTON fans suck…he’s your guy Boston…Papi is nothing without his Manny…love seeing the long faces of beantowners…

]]> By: Steve H http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/#comment-182121 Steve H Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:44:34 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5160#comment-182121 Well you don't get to the postseason without the first 162 games that do matter. Well you don’t get to the postseason without the first 162 games that do matter.

]]> By: Manimal http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/#comment-182096 Manimal Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:23:23 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5160#comment-182096 You guys are so anal about sample size. Who gives a shit when the only games that matter are in the post season. You guys are so anal about sample size. Who gives a shit when the only games that matter are in the post season.

]]> By: ceciguante http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/#comment-182062 ceciguante Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:30:05 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5160#comment-182062 this post is ridiculous, top to bottom. <i>David Ortiz’s struggles present a very apt parallels to those of Alexander Emanuelle Rodriguez.</i> really? because i seem to remember ortiz being a monster in clutch situations in the playoffs throughout his career, while my memory of arod is that his postseason performances sucked. let's look at their career numbers: AROD (147 AB): .279 .361 .483 7HR, <b>17 RBI</b> ORTIZ (220 AB): .295 .403 .541 11HR, <b>43 RBI</b> how a single 31 AB (injury induced?) slump by ortiz should even merit any mention of arod is astounding. arod is an october punchline to date, esp since joining the yanks. ortiz could lose it all tomorrow, and would still go down as a great postseason performer (his teams have 2 rings to show for it, which is kinda the point). <i>It’s bad practice to aggregate playoff appearances over the years...</i> why is that, exactly? arod and ortiz have 147 and 220 postseason AB, respectively. what makes those AB any less reliable than a 220 AB stretch? i'd think they are more reliable, b/c taking various small samples would correct for certain errors. this post is ridiculous, top to bottom.

David Ortiz’s struggles present a very apt parallels to those of Alexander Emanuelle Rodriguez.
really? because i seem to remember ortiz being a monster in clutch situations in the playoffs throughout his career, while my memory of arod is that his postseason performances sucked. let’s look at their career numbers:

AROD (147 AB):
.279 .361 .483 7HR, 17 RBI

ORTIZ (220 AB):
.295 .403 .541 11HR, 43 RBI

how a single 31 AB (injury induced?) slump by ortiz should even merit any mention of arod is astounding. arod is an october punchline to date, esp since joining the yanks. ortiz could lose it all tomorrow, and would still go down as a great postseason performer (his teams have 2 rings to show for it, which is kinda the point).

It’s bad practice to aggregate playoff appearances over the years…

why is that, exactly? arod and ortiz have 147 and 220 postseason AB, respectively. what makes those AB any less reliable than a 220 AB stretch? i’d think they are more reliable, b/c taking various small samples would correct for certain errors.

]]> By: ceciguante http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/#comment-182040 ceciguante Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:12:27 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5160#comment-182040 this argument is a fraud. arod has been pretty good in (fewer) ALCS appearances....but you're conveniently (and purposefully) omitting his ridiculous impotence in the ALDS. the bottom line is that arod's postseason performances look like crap compared to ortiz's. which is a big reason ortiz's teams have 2 rings. you can pretend it's all randomness in the playoffs, but then you couldn't have been watching all these years. this argument is a fraud. arod has been pretty good in (fewer) ALCS appearances….but you’re conveniently (and purposefully) omitting his ridiculous impotence in the ALDS.

the bottom line is that arod’s postseason performances look like crap compared to ortiz’s. which is a big reason ortiz’s teams have 2 rings. you can pretend it’s all randomness in the playoffs, but then you couldn’t have been watching all these years.

]]> By: Relaunch http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/#comment-182034 Relaunch Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:02:38 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5160#comment-182034 I agree on that also. Pedro and Manny were huge parts. But Arod had many good parts also on his teams. I'm not sure why there is always a group of Yankee fans that want to give a player making $30MM a free pass. Next though, they complain about ticket prices, parking, consessions at games. I agree on that also. Pedro and Manny were huge parts. But Arod had many good parts also on his teams.
I’m not sure why there is always a group of Yankee fans that want to give a player making $30MM a free pass. Next though, they complain about ticket prices, parking, consessions at games.

]]> By: Relaunch http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/#comment-182031 Relaunch Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:00:13 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5160#comment-182031 Okay, usually salary does indicate in baseball (non rookies, arbitration) how well you are supposed to perform. He is called the best player in baseball. He should be more accountable. With your logic, Its okay if Arod doesn't do anything because Jose Molina didn't do anything. Okay, usually salary does indicate in baseball (non rookies, arbitration) how well you are supposed to perform.
He is called the best player in baseball. He should be more accountable.
With your logic, Its okay if Arod doesn’t do anything because Jose Molina didn’t do anything.

]]> By: Count Zero http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/#comment-181995 Count Zero Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:26:34 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5160#comment-181995 Word. Word.

]]> By: Count Zero http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/ortiz-a-rod-know-the-vagaries-of-fandom-5160/#comment-181993 Count Zero Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:25:37 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5160#comment-181993 Zing! Zing!

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